Author Topic: Different color coin reject buttons?? wells gardner/ coin control (Read 8173 times)

deezdrama · « **on:** August 30, 2015, 08:34:56 am »

Getting closer to my first cabs completion... Im using a over under coin door from a vendetta cab...
It has the wg/coin control coin reject buttons.... Im looking for blue or yellow ones but only see red ones available

Anyone know of different colored ones available anywhere?

If no.... is there any alternatives to get them blue -ish or yellow-ish and still light up decent (paint, gel films, colored led)
Or is it possible to retrofit a happs or other coin reject button/bezel to still trigger the reject coin lever and send the quarters where they need to go?

thanks!

katuuuz · « **Reply #1 on:** August 30, 2015, 09:31:08 am »

Twistedquarter.com has a nice variety.

http://www.twistedquarter.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=171_175&zenid=eek120m33512fs0nraqju1p2u4

deezdrama · « **Reply #2 on:** August 30, 2015, 10:38:18 am »

Quote from: katuuuz on August 30, 2015, 09:31:08 am

Twistedquarter.com has a nice variety.

http://www.twistedquarter.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=171_175&zenid=eek120m33512fs0nraqju1p2u4

Yeah I checked there, and a couple other places... only see red

Guess im out of luck ?

katuuuz · « **Reply #3 on:** August 30, 2015, 11:33:26 am »

I'm sorry, do the happ reject buttons not fit WG?

deezdrama · « **Reply #4 on:** August 30, 2015, 11:47:22 am »

Quote from: katuuuz on August 30, 2015, 11:33:26 am

I'm sorry, do the happ reject buttons not fit WG?

The happs have the quarter slot offset to the side of the reject button in the bezel.
The coin control reject buttons have the coin slot right in the button

Tried to save money and use a coin door I already had. Now my front panel is already glued and screwed on and cut for this coin control door.

I have no red at all in my artwork or other buttons.
I really need blue or yellow or it wont look right.
Im either going to have to try a really bright blue led in the button for a purple-ish blue color or figure a way to mount happ bezels/reject buttons and get them to work somehow with my door and mechs

I dont think its possible though because the coin control button has a long plastic cylinder that depresses the coin reject lever of the mech.

Not sure if I would need different mechs too....and if so-dont know if they would even fit in my door.

katuuuz · « **Reply #5 on:** August 30, 2015, 12:08:03 pm »

Ugh. No way to save $ w this hobby lol. Good luck bud.

solar · « **Reply #6 on:** August 30, 2015, 12:16:54 pm »

Easiest way would be to spray them black or chrome etc then put a sticker on.

No idea if these are the same dimensions etc (might not be tbh), but might get you closer to yellow with some led lighting.

http://www.arcadeadventures.com/slotted-coin-reject-button-amber/

yotsuya · « **Reply #7 on:** August 30, 2015, 02:34:11 pm »

Just keep them red and don't worry about it. Red reject buttons are kind of a universal arcade standard.

deezdrama · « **Reply #8 on:** August 30, 2015, 03:45:00 pm »

Quote from: solar on August 30, 2015, 12:16:54 pm

Easiest way would be to spray them black or chrome etc then put a sticker on.

No idea if these are the same dimensions etc (might not be tbh), but might get you closer to yellow with some led lighting.

http://www.arcadeadventures.com/slotted-coin-reject-button-amber/

Not a bad find on those ambers! Will yellow leds i might have a yellow-orange.
Looks like the same button but no word of what they are in the description...

Is this a reputable company? Never heard of them.

Is there any drop in replacement led for coin reject buttons?
Or.... do I pretty much just need to pick up the leds and resistors and solder it up myself?

This is my first cab so im still learning.

deezdrama · « **Reply #9 on:** August 31, 2015, 06:55:55 am »

Looks like different colors were made at some point

mgb · « **Reply #10 on:** August 31, 2015, 08:02:40 pm »

I guess it may be possible that different colors were made for the coin control boards but if so, they're impossible to find now.
I had a number of coin doors I've collected over the years and they were all coin control models.
I really wanted blue coin rejects Vertical Retrace's coin door.

I searched high and low and only found the blue ones for the Happ doors.
I ended up trading one of my coin control doors with the owner of a roller rink that I do repairs for.
He didn't care about red or amber coin rejects.

deezdrama · « **Reply #11 on:** September 01, 2015, 05:56:57 am »

Www.pinball.center has these yellow ones.
It says they are williams buttons but look identical.

Ive emailed them to see if they know if they will fit.

deezdrama · « **Reply #12 on:** September 01, 2015, 06:57:12 am »

Pinballcenter has replied back.... they are unsure if these will fit but curious to know too....they look identical so I went ahead and ordered a couple.

I will post results when they get here. Fingers crossed

yotsuya · « **Reply #13 on:** September 01, 2015, 11:34:25 am »

Williams buttons are a different shape, at least the insert fronts are (that was my experience).

Damn, wish I would have seen this before you ordered. Maybe you'll get lucky and they fit.

deezdrama · « **Reply #14 on:** September 01, 2015, 12:19:16 pm »

I hope they can be modded to work if they are not a direct fit.
They look identical in the pics but we shall see in a week or two.

I may now need to order williams bezels but not sure if they would line up with my door.

yotsuya · « **Reply #15 on:** September 01, 2015, 12:37:14 pm »

My experience was based on needing the part that covers the "insert coin" insert on an original Williams button. The replacement part I ordered didn't fit (it was too wide).

I dunno, maybe Williams had gone to using Coin Controls buttons later in their process. The door I had was on my Moon Patrol and was definitely vintage. But if they later just started using Coin Controls parts, you might be in luck. It was a pain finding the part I needed, but I found it on KLOV eventually.

Good luck!

P.S. You ordered those from Germany? Hmmm...

deezdrama · « **Reply #16 on:** September 01, 2015, 12:48:34 pm »

So you have a moon patrol cab? I remember when I was a kid playing that at a movie theater. Was jealous when my buddy got it for atari lol.... that was a classic

Anyway... I wonder if williams eventually bought a coin control mold or had coin control start making them different colored buttons? Would explain the pic I found and posted here with the 4 different colors.
Most of the williams buttons ive looked at are way skinnier but this one looks identical to my cc button.

Yes... ordered from germany.... the default shipping option was 50 euros but chose german post (hope this wasnt just for domestic lol) and it was 10 euro.

Total was about $25 shipped

yotsuya · « **Reply #17 on:** September 01, 2015, 12:52:02 pm »

Quote from: deezdrama on September 01, 2015, 12:48:34 pm

So you have a moon patrol cab? I remember when I was a kid playing that at a movie theater. Was jealous when my buddy got it for atari lol.... that was a classic

Yeah, Moon Patrol for the 2600 is a classic. That, Missile Command and Vanguard are probably my top 3 2600 games.

Quote

Anyway... I wonder if williams eventually bought a coin control mold had had coin control start making them different colored buttons? Would explain the pic I found and posted here with the 4 different colors.
Most of the williams buttons ive looked at are way skinnier but this one looks identical to my cc button.

Hopefully that's the case, or maybe they used different buttons in Europe. Either way, hope it works out.

deezdrama · « **Reply #18 on:** September 01, 2015, 12:55:48 pm »

Yeah I think coin control was a european company so maybe they still have colored buttons sitting around there that are new old stock and this yellow one was just mis-labeled or something.

deezdrama · « **Reply #19 on:** September 01, 2015, 03:43:59 pm »

Stumbled upon this info about these buttons when researching williams buttons...

"This is used on all Wells Gardner and Coin Controls coin doors including Capcom, Data East, Sega and some Williams pinball doors such as Twilight Zone"

solar · « **Reply #20 on:** September 01, 2015, 04:57:09 pm »

Quote from: deezdrama on August 30, 2015, 03:45:00 pm

Not a bad find on those ambers! Will yellow leds i might have a yellow-orange.
Looks like the same button but no word of what they are in the description...

Is this a reputable company? Never heard of them.

Is there any drop in replacement led for coin reject buttons?
Or.... do I pretty much just need to pick up the leds and resistors and solder it up myself?

This is my first cab so im still learning.

I know you might be sorted now, but just to answer your question...i've no experience with using the company i linked, just found them while searching.

A white led might have pushed it up to yellow, but would need to be a try and see.

Fingers crossed you've solved your problem though with the yellow ones.

yotsuya · « **Reply #21 on:** September 01, 2015, 05:18:14 pm »

Quote from: deezdrama on September 01, 2015, 03:43:59 pm

Stumbled upon this info about these buttons when researching williams buttons...

"This is used on all Wells Gardner and Coin Controls coin doors including Capcom, Data East, Sega and some Williams pinball doors such as Twilight Zone"

Well, that's definitely hopeful...

deezdrama · « **Reply #22 on:** September 02, 2015, 12:54:15 pm »

Yep....

I need to start thinking about what led's to use on my reject buttons...

What do people use these days? Led diodes with resistor solder to the leg,automotive led's,drop in replacement led versions of the stock bulb for reject buttons?

I plan to power them from 12v rail of pc power supply.

Any suggestions or links for lighting these buttons are appreciated!

yotsuya · « **Reply #23 on:** September 02, 2015, 02:41:33 pm »

Check out NiftyLED.

deezdrama · « **Reply #24 on:** September 03, 2015, 10:11:39 am »

Ive seen a couple youtube vids where they have yellow coin reject buttons but are using an rgb led that automatically cycles through the colors. Is something like the nifty led blinker or the fast color changer what I would need?

deezdrama · « **Reply #25 on:** September 03, 2015, 02:23:47 pm »

I ordered a couple yellow 12v dual 5050 yellow LED's and a couple color changers to try out and play with....

The lime coin reject buttons are in transit and will post result when they get here.
I kind of wish I would of ordered 4 reject buttons incase they do fit since I have another dual slot over under coin control door that I might use in the future and the shipping cost more than the buttons so should of just got 4....oh well.

yotsuya · « **Reply #26 on:** September 03, 2015, 02:25:06 pm »

I dunno, $25 for two reject buttons... I can get a FULL DOOR Kit from Bob Roberts for $20. But I know some times it's the vision that's important, cost be damned... good luck!

deezdrama · « **Reply #27 on:** September 03, 2015, 02:29:30 pm »

Yeah.... the buttons themselves were only $5.... its the shipping that got me.
If I would of order more it would of cut the per piece price down.... maybe I should of bought a bunch and resold them as it seems like this may be the only found source for coin control buttons in a different color (if they fit that is)

deezdrama · « **Reply #28 on:** September 11, 2015, 11:03:37 pm »

The package arrived and they do fit.... same eject rod and dimensions.
Only bad thing is.... theres no removeable front for putting in the "push to reject" inserts.

If anyone knows a source of these that will stick on the front ...please share.

solar · « **Reply #29 on:** September 12, 2015, 09:56:35 am »

Good that they fit. Hard to tell just how much space you have to play with but fitting a reversed sticker on the inside would add to the durability.

Guess you'd probably have to design your own and get them cut out though.

deezdrama · « **Reply #30 on:** September 12, 2015, 09:43:17 pm »

Got the coin control door stripped,repainted and the internals scrubbed down...lubed... and these reject buttons installed.
They fit and function great! Heres a short vid with rgb led blinker

Rgb blinker led coin control door:

wemr97dl · « **Reply #31 on:** October 19, 2015, 02:11:03 am »

Did you ever come up with a way to label the reject button? Just wondering
I managed to find Red, Yellow ,Green and Blue But it took a year and I had to buy another Cabinet just to get the Door, now I have an extra Cabinet (next project and another 4 slot door) so I just ordered 4 and will figure something out when they get here the Lime green is a unique color maybe theme the next cabinet in that color.

wemr97dl · « **Reply #32 on:** October 19, 2015, 04:53:04 am »

One more thing if any one is wondering the buttons from

http://www.arcadeadventures.com/slotted-coin-reject-button-amber/

arcade adventures will not fit, I ordered them and had to return them they are to tall for the bezels

deezdrama · « **Reply #33 on:** October 19, 2015, 05:48:09 am »

Quote from: wemr97dl on October 19, 2015, 02:11:03 am

Did you ever come up with a way to label the reject button? Just wondering
I managed to find Red, Yellow ,Green and Blue But it took a year and I had to buy another Cabinet just to get the Door, now I have an extra Cabinet (next project and another 4 slot door) so I just ordered 4 and will figure something out when they get here the Lime green is a unique color maybe theme the next cabinet in that color.

I just had Lucian print some up for me when I ordered graphics. I just sent a note to have them printed on the same tranlucent vinyl used for the marquee. Worked out great. Im using pulsing rgb leds and they take on all colors great!
Where did you find blue?

wemr97dl · « **Reply #34 on:** October 20, 2015, 05:16:51 am »

I bought my first cabinet, and now my second from a vendor near me, he sells off the cabinets that don't work or are not worth fixing, last year when I bought the first one off of him and the four slot coin door I told him I was looking for rbyg return buttons and all he had were red at the time, I found one green one online and ordered 2 of the amber ones figuring i could get the color with RGB leds but had to send them back. this summer he called me, he had taken over another vendor and took in about 70 machines. One had a 4 slot coin door with all four colors so he called me. Just had to buy the whole cabinet off of him 100 bucks

wemr97dl · « **Reply #35 on:** October 20, 2015, 05:19:35 am »

One more thing, are the lime green's smooth, I was going to have a friend engrave them and then paint and wipe the surface so the engraving takes the paint and the rest is clear, but that will only work if the surface is smooth.

deezdrama · « **Reply #36 on:** October 20, 2015, 06:03:47 am »

They are smooth, its a shame noone makes the different colored ones anymore.... sounds like they are rare as hell.
Do you know what cabs originally had the different colored ones?
That pic I posted earlier was the only hint or reference I could find to them actually ever even existing lol.

wemr97dl · « **Reply #37 on:** October 20, 2015, 11:47:54 pm »

Here's mine installed, don't know what games would have them originally but I would guess 4 player games, or any game that had credit by coin slot, if I remember correctly gauntlet was like that and i'm sure others were also.

deezdrama · « **Reply #38 on:** October 21, 2015, 06:10:47 am »

Quote from: wemr97dl on October 20, 2015, 11:47:54 pm

Here's mine installed, don't know what games would have them originally but I would guess 4 player games, or any game that had credit by coin slot, if I remember correctly gauntlet was like that and i'm sure others were also.

Man....that is nice! Rare find there!
I didnt know they made a 4 slot door. My vendetta cab uses two 2 slot over under doors.
I wonder when they stopped using those?

wemr97dl · « **Reply #39 on:** October 22, 2015, 01:10:15 am »

I have no idea but I have 2 now the second one will probably get the lime green if I use another 4 slot I can ask if he has any left, but will probably only be red buttons


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