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Growing up in the late 80's / early 90's I spent many days dumping quarters in the local arcades. Now as an adult...Ive always wanted an arcade cab but never tackled the DIY approach and an original cab was too big/heavy so was out of question.

I dont know how many "DIY arcade cab", "How to build an arcade cabinet", "DIY MAME cab" articles I read over the years but never committed.
After reading many helpful builds like ChanceKJ's awesome cab I finally gained the confidence to give it a shot.  :dizzy: :dizzy: :dizzy:
I couldnt of done it without this forum and all the helpful members who helped with my onslaught of questions!


This build process will be a log of my progress and struggles building a 4 player slim DIY arcade cab from scratch from the perspective of your average - everyday DIY-er.
I didn't have access to fancy equipment and because of this had to do alot of out of the box techniques and solutions using your everyday tools most guys have in their garage already. This is not a full blown step by step guide but just a build process with me asking alot of questions to hopefully help your "average joe" in the future to gain a grasp and the confidence to tackle a project like this. It was a long project but very rewarding in the end. This cabinet is not perfect but Im happy with it considering the common tools used in the process.


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Re: I got wood.... Ive commited :D (first build.... hold my hand)
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2015, 05:27:16 pm »
C'mon man, use a better title for your official build thread.  ;D
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Re: I got wood.... Ive commited :D (first build.... hold my hand)
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2015, 05:28:58 pm »
With the amount of stress that a CP takes, I'd figure some way of supporting from the underside.  Even if all you did was attach "arms" of 1x4 inside the panels sticking out the front that you could sort of hang the CP on.

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Re: I got wood.... Ive commited :D (first build.... hold my hand)
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2015, 05:33:54 pm »
Lol..... Probablly will drive you guys nuts with all my questions...so I apologize in advance.lol

Im 35 and wanted to build a mame cab for at least a decade.
I bought a 4 player Vendetta machine about 5 years ago that fully works and was going to run a pc along side the original setup but the ol' lady said "that huge ugly thing is not going in my living room"

Then I seen chances slim cab 4 player- 32" display cabinet and had a change of plans.
Showed my ol lady a picture of his cab and asked if I build one like this can it go in the living room?....she replied "if it looks like that,ya" lol..... Chance set the bar high, ill be happy if it turns out half as good with half the bells and whistles.

Im going to be realistic and set a winterish finish time frame. So Im going to break it down into sections and just focus on each one at a time so im not asking a million questions for steps im nowhere near yet.

My first step is to finalize my side of cab plan and get the sides cut and then get my monitor and set my width and get the back etc cut and the cab assembled.

So I ran to lowes after I left work and I think the 100+ degree heat I was in allday got to me because I ended up buying 3 sheets of
3/4" x 20" x 72" sanded craft pine sheets.
The furniture grade ply 4x8 sheets were $55 and didnt look as straight as the stuff I got and figured solid wood would take the router slotting better than ply.
Also the plans I looked up for a skinny cab showed 20" width which is what these are....
problem is I didnt consider the ledge that sticks out on the front that the CP sits on.
So..... has anyone just attatched there CP straight to the front of the cab without a CP ledge for it to sit on?
(I think i seen a guy use small monitor flushmount brakets to hand a CP but dont know if I like that idea)

Another thing I noticed when I got home is how many nots are in the boards. Alot of puttying :(
Or I guess I could go with a stained woodgrain cab but wanted kitana,mileena,chun-li side art.

Do you guys think this wood will work? What about the CP ledge issue?

Hopefully will get the sides cut tonight or tomorrow.



C'mon man, use a better title for your official build thread.  ;D

you mean you dont shout it out when u get wood? Lol

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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2015, 05:36:56 pm »
you mean you dont shout it out when u get wood? Lol

I do, every time I come home from Home Depot.  I can't resist the urge.  I know it's juvenile and the wife sneers at me every time I do it...  meh.

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Re: I got wood.... Ive commited :D (first build.... hold my hand)
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2015, 05:50:22 pm »
With the amount of stress that a CP takes, I'd figure some way of supporting from the underside.  Even if all you did was attach "arms" of 1x4 inside the panels sticking out the front that you could sort of hang the CP on.

Yeah, I guess I could anchor arms to inside the side panels like you suggest, then add another shorter piece butted right up against the side panel ... this would hide the problem and make it look like it was part of the side panels.

Hard to explain and too lazy to 3d sketch it.

Well this isnt a good start.... already rigging things and havnt even started yet.lol.

Thats what I get I guess for trying to go with fancy precut wood. Oh well, Ill make it work.
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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2015, 05:55:39 pm »
I need to start planning what controls I need to order.

Id like led lit buttons and balltop sticks.... any suggestions?

Also debating on if I need spinners? Ive never played a game that used them so dont know if I would be missing out on anything.... probably just skip them. I dont want a clusterf### CP

But yeah..... Ill mostly be playing fighters.... I know theres different types of buttons (have no experience with any of them)
Im not real picky. Just want some led lit ones that will function good for fighters and wont break the bank.
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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2015, 06:14:42 pm »
Thanks for the kind words.

If you're usin my plans/build as a base make sure you take time and read the thread, it will have most answers in there. If you have a question that the thread just can't answer then let me know.

Oh and do yourself a favour. If you want to use my same side panels then download my plans from the build thread, take the PDF file to Staples (or anywhere else where you live that can print on large rolled paper) and have them print you a full size 1-1 template to cut your wood from. You can use spray adhesive or masking tape to attach that to a sheet of 8x4' plywood and cut out your side panels. Easy as pie.

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,135116.msg1473385.html#msg1473385

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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2015, 06:18:35 pm »
Here's a quick SketchUp of what I was thinking.  Hope it makes sense.  I've attached a pic and the sketchup file.

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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2015, 06:43:33 pm »
Here's a quick SketchUp of what I was thinking.  Hope it makes sense.  I've attached a pic and the sketchup file.

good idea but dont know if it will work with a giant 4 player cp.I guess i could slot it bisquit n glue the ledge piece on... might just go back and get the 4x8 sheets.


Thanks for the kind words.

If you're usin my plans/build as a base make sure you take time and read the thread, it will have most answers in there. If you have a question that the thread just can't answer then let me know.

Oh and do yourself a favour. If you want to use my same side panels then download my plans from the build thread, take the PDF file to Staples (or anywhere else where you live that can print on large rolled paper) and have them print you a full size 1-1 template to cut your wood from. You can use spray adhesive or masking tape to attach that to a sheet of 8x4' plywood and cut out your side panels. Easy as pie.

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,135116.msg1473385.html#msg1473385

Yeah, ive been super busy at work,lowes, taking my boy to karate..... Had about an hour of free time to run to lowes earlier, planned on getting 4x8 sheets of ply but $55 just seemed too much compared to the solid, planed flat and sanded hobby planks I got.
I was ill prepared and didnt have dimesions on me had to check out that sketch on your thread for general dimensions. I'll have to see if I can add the CP ledge....Once I get home im going to download your files.
I dont have any cad programs... doesnt google have a free sketch program? Will it open in that?
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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2015, 06:56:17 pm »
You won't need a CAD program. Like i said just take the PDF files to a staples and have them print them on the largest roll printer they have. Use those wood panels you bought for the CP or something.  overall I used three, 4x8 sheets of cabinet grade ply that cost like $75 a sheet. It's not cheap. But remember you'll have a better end result if you avoid cutting corners (literally).

Here are the rough dimensions minus a 4 tilt in the CP ledge and the rounded corners. You'll find both of those in the PDF.


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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2015, 08:29:48 pm »
You won't need a CAD program. Like i said just take the PDF files to a staples and have them print them on the largest roll printer they have. Use those wood panels you bought for the CP or something.  overall I used three, 4x8 sheets of cabinet grade ply that cost like $75 a sheet. It's not cheap. But remember you'll have a better end result if you avoid cutting corners (literally).

Here are the rough dimensions minus a 4 tilt in the CP ledge and the rounded corners. You'll find both of those in the PDF.



cool man, looks like with the wood I got I will only be missing that small 2 1/4" angled ledge right under the CP. I think I will be alright with that.
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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2015, 11:00:11 pm »
Hey Chance.... hopefully you see this, got a ? for ya.

In your thread before you began you had 2 sets of side panel plans.
Im using the set that didnt have the ledge below the control panel because that ledgeless design fits my 20" x 6ft sheets of pine perfect.

Anyway... before I cut I just want to make sure a 32" lcd will fit in here.
All the height dimensions on most 32" tv's Ive looked at have a height of around 20" but the plans call for 1' 6 7/16" ... or 18  7/16"

Just want to make sure a 32" lcd with 20" will fit in there. I know the panel will be recessed back a bit and that might buy an inch or two.... just wanted to double check.

Or if anyone else can chime in its appreciated.

oh..... in the pic I got 20" pulled out on the tape for reference to height of standard 32" displays.



edit.....sorry---my stupid phone is uploading the pics 90* off
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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2015, 01:55:52 am »
The height of the cab (in this case) will have zero issues with the display.  Make a cardboard cutout of the thickness and height of your display and place it on top of your sheet of wood.

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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2015, 12:58:51 pm »
The height of the cab (in this case) will have zero issues with the display.  Make a cardboard cutout of the thickness and height of your display and place it on top of your sheet of wood.

Im not sure which exact 32" model I will get yet but most heights ive looked at range from 19-20"
The angled display length part of the panel is 18 7/16" im guessing it will work fine as the bezel of the tv will be hidden.

Will probably get the tv this weekend.
I need to get more wood,castors, and a few things.....
I hope to make some progress this weekend

Is there dimensions or plans for the control panel anywhere?
Are they in your cad files?

Thanks
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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2015, 07:34:37 pm »
Not very exciting but its a start.
Dont have a plunge router yet so cloned them with resin sanding pads on my grinder.

It turned out better than I thought considering what I used (30 year old sears skillsaw, and a grinder lmao)
I can improvise though. I noticed a slight bow in both panels.... hopefully it wont throw anything off.

I need to build a track for my circular saw so I can rip the rest of the pieces.
Hopefully will make some progress this weekend.
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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2015, 08:17:34 pm »
As long as your cuts are square you shouldn't have to worry about the slight bow in the panels, just make sure you clamp/glue/pilot/screw everything and take your time. 

Sorry, I don't have the CP layout available. Try this link:
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,83312.msg945960.html#msg945960

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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2015, 08:40:53 pm »
As long as your cuts are square you shouldn't have to worry about the slight bow in the panels, just make sure you clamp/glue/pilot/screw everything and take your time. 

Sorry, I don't have the CP layout available. Try this link:
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,83312.msg945960.html#msg945960

ok.... if you ever got a minute and remember .... Id really appreciate if you could measure the length of the cp... if I knew the overall length, I could figure out the dimensions fairly close. If not, no biggie....Ill just wing it or design something different.

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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #18 on: July 17, 2015, 03:38:56 am »
Jarrett's first image is 1-to-1. Have it printed off in black and white on roll paper (should be only a couple bucks at staples) you can use it as a template. I would strongly suggest doing that.

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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #19 on: July 17, 2015, 09:59:59 pm »
Ok.... I had time to throw his pic in photoshop and make a cutting template out of it.
I removed some things, moved things around, and added some slope to the p1 p2 buttons.

When I selected the button/stick/ball areas and stroked them to a new layer I stroked at 5px width.... I hope that picks up good on print.

Might see if my engineer can print this out on his blueprint printer at work but not sure what width his printer can handle.... I dont want to loose scale and hes the type of engineer that keeps a handfull of shims in his back pocket lmao.... dont want to deal with staples or anything local and deal with the weird stares lol

Whats some good options for print services on the net?
I want to start on my art but need to catch some sleep and get supplies in the AM and get this cab knocked out.

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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #20 on: July 17, 2015, 10:13:04 pm »
Haha, don't over think it. I bet that will be $5 at staples you'll be in and out in 8 minutes. I print all my draft artwork and side panel blueprints there now. Never get an odd look. Just people blown away that this is an actual hobby.

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« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2015, 10:16:51 pm »
Haha, don't over think it. I bet that will be $5 at staples you'll be in and out in 8 minutes. I print all my draft artwork and side panel blueprints there now. Never get an odd look. Just people blown away that this is an actual hobby.

what media do u use to get them the file? Email,sd,usb?
What do you say... you just want a "to scale" rough print ?
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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #22 on: July 17, 2015, 10:24:41 pm »
Oh.... and does my button layout look ok?
To me it looks like the whole 7 button set for p1 / p2 could be rotated clockwise a bit but i dont know.
And is the 4 mame buttons enough for mapping to things? This is my first cab and clueless.
Ive ran hyperspin before and an older mame years and years ago but have forgotten everything
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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #23 on: July 17, 2015, 10:26:57 pm »
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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #24 on: July 18, 2015, 01:17:59 am »
Just a USB drive, throw the file on there and tell them you'd like it printed on the large format roll paper 1 to 1. You don't want them to scale down the image.

The buttons and layout you choose is QUITE subjective and commenting on it will start a massive dibate that I'm not wiling to be a part of. :) read a few threads and look at a few builds in the "completed builds" section. Maybe think about the games you really want to play in it and go from there.

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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #25 on: July 18, 2015, 05:06:58 am »
Heres what Ive came up with sofar. I feel like its missing lines.
I try to select the border of the panel then scale the selection in some so I can stroke the selection to make some pinstripes around the perimeter of the panel....but it only lets me distort the selection- It wont let me scale if that makes any sense. I havnt used illustrator in a decade. Anyone know of an easy way to add lines to this in photoshop?

This is my first time designing a control panel so If anyone has any suggestions or anything to make it better let me know.
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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #26 on: July 18, 2015, 11:24:38 am »
Heres what Ive came up with sofar. I feel like its missing lines.
I try to select the border of the panel then scale the selection in some so I can stroke the selection to make some pinstripes around the perimeter of the panel....but it only lets me distort the selection- It wont let me scale if that makes any sense. I havnt used illustrator in a decade. Anyone know of an easy way to add lines to this in photoshop?

This is my first time designing a control panel so If anyone has any suggestions or anything to make it better let me know.


after getting some much needed sleep, I have some ideas for this CP that should make it look better, also.... have ideas for sideart that I want to work on but its all going to have to wait- I need to get going on building the cab so off to get some materials.


I have a question. Ive seen some people install there CP art with and without plexi ontop of it. Whats the pros cons of those two choices and if I got with plexi do i need to use a thinner board for cp top so that I end up with 3/4" for the t molding?
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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #27 on: July 18, 2015, 03:46:51 pm »
Um, ugh. I know it's not positive,  but that was my first reaction. Especially with the mud flap trackball art.
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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #28 on: July 18, 2015, 10:21:30 pm »
Um, ugh. I know it's not positive,  but that was my first reaction. Especially with the mud flap trackball art.
Lmao, ya its not going to be for everybody...
Got about 6 hours in today on it, didnt get nearly as much done as I thought I would , but I would rather take my time and make sure its done right even if it takes untill winter.
I got most of the glue boards in but cant install the front ones untill I get my 32" in there.

Ive been trying to cheap out on having to buy a router but looks like t-molding is the way to go. Guess ill get a cheapy ....as long as it lasts to finish this project ill be ok with it.

Whats the consensus on the CP top piece? 3/4" and vinyl, or 1/2" and a 1/4" plexi over it?
Anybody use 2" castors before? Think they will handle the load? They are rated at 90lbs ea.
 
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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #29 on: July 18, 2015, 10:40:14 pm »
My advice on theme... pick a theme you like, then make it look like it was a dedicated version of that theme. Look at pictures of a bunch of different cabs, real, original cabs, for ideas that you like. in the end, you'll be happier, and your cab will look better.

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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #30 on: July 19, 2015, 09:39:10 pm »
My advice on theme... pick a theme you like, then make it look like it was a dedicated version of that theme. Look at pictures of a bunch of different cabs, real, original cabs, for ideas that you like. in the end, you'll be happier, and your cab will look better.

My $0.02. :cheers:
Oh ya... My racy art taste will probably not be liked... but I guess as long as I like it ,thats all that matters. Ive got an old buddy who is a glass blower and neon tube builder. Hes kinda went under since the tech advance of LED's but ive got some ideas that I might get with him about. Also thinking about maybe a UV marquee....just dont know yet.

Anyway made some decent progress today. Got the base built with castors installed.... build my $10 version of a track saw (worth its weight in gold) and ripped the bottom base, middle shelf, and the CP crossmember.

Glued and screwed the cab together and its sitting square.... happy with the results sofar.

I went to menards instead of lowes today.... Much better plywood options and much cheaper. Now I wish I would of went there to begin with and used the ply I just bought for the sides... oh well, Ill have to bondo or woodputty all the knots in the sides but it will be alright.

Ive got 2 dual coin doors/mechs in my old Vendetta cab, Im wondering if I should desecrate the cab for them and try to add blue coin return buttons.

Anyone know what joysticks this old 4p Vendetta cab has in it?

Chance...... If you read this..... Did you put a slant in your side panels for the CP or did you angle the CP itself?
Mines already square at the side panels so Im going to have to build my CP with an angle to it.
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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #31 on: July 19, 2015, 09:51:30 pm »


My advice on theme... pick a theme you like, then make it look like it was a dedicated version of that theme. Look at pictures of a bunch of different cabs, real, original cabs, for ideas that you like. in the end, you'll be happier, and your cab will look better.

My $0.02. :cheers:
Oh ya... My racy art taste will probably not be liked... but I guess as long as I like it ,thats all that matters.

Very true. Good luck with your build.
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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #32 on: July 19, 2015, 10:01:47 pm »
This finished side panel art has a 4 slant to it. WAY less complicated then making a slant on the CP box.

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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #33 on: July 19, 2015, 10:06:43 pm »
This finished side panel art has a 4 slant to it. WAY less complicated then making a slant on the CP box.

yeah.... I feared having to slant each piece of the CP.... but its all I can do now. Will take a little longer but ill get it.

Whats the minimum clearance needed under the CP? I mean like.... what sticks out the most and how much. Im thinking it will be the Trackball but not sure.

Anyway.... did you plexi over your CP or left the vinyl? Im not sure if I thould use 1/2" ply and 1/4" plexi or just 3/4" ply and bare vinyl
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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #34 on: July 19, 2015, 10:11:56 pm »
You do know this is all documented in my build thread, right?  :D

No plexi, but I did have the printer use matte vinyl laminate on the art. I think my CP box is 4" on the inside. I'm not at home right now I can't check. But I'm pretty sure that's in the build thread.

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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #35 on: July 19, 2015, 10:18:30 pm »
You do know this is all documented in my build thread, right?  :D

No plexi, but I did have the printer use matte vinyl laminate on the art. I think my CP box is 4" on the inside. I'm not at home right now I can't check. But I'm pretty sure that's in the build thread.

My bad man, Ive read through your build page by page at least 3 times. Its a long thread.... ive tried to take notes on stuff I think I will need to know but some details ive forgotten or couldnt find.

Just figured it would be fresh in your head man, I told you....youd regret offering me to "just ask" if i had any questions in my other thread....lmao


I understand though.... im sure its a pain in the a. -- to deal with mame cab noobs. This is the only reason Im documenting my build....maybee it will help someone in the future.
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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #36 on: July 19, 2015, 10:31:12 pm »
i regret nothing. never do.

just pointing it out in case you're in a hurry.

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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #37 on: July 19, 2015, 10:56:31 pm »
Just wanted to add some details about this diy track saw for others who are broke or trying to build a cab and dont have $500 to buy one or have access to a table saw.

Its a 1/2" by 6" piece of aspen I bought at menards. Screwed a piece of $10 aluminum angle to the edge. I think my piece of angle (already had from another project) was 1"x 1".
An inch was too tall for my circular saw to clear so had to cutoff 1/2" . I think a 1/2" x1/2" piece of aluminum angle should work for most circular saws. I drilled holes in the angle and fastened it to the edge of the piece of 6" aspen. The angle gives the circular a straight edge to ride against and make straight cuts.

The first time you run it... it will cut off any excess material from the aspen 6" piece. After that, you can rip perfectly straight cuts in plywood by just lining the edge of the aspen track with your cut marks.

Works great.
Figured it may help someone without access to a tablesaw and on a budget.
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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #38 on: July 21, 2015, 02:25:43 pm »
This is a good tip for those really long cuts. But for what it's worth, you can actually build the fence with even less parts:

Just cut off one side of the factory-cut straight edge of the board. Then flip it over, screw it into itself making that factory edge the new fence. Then rip off the excess. Final result looks like this:
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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #39 on: July 21, 2015, 02:53:40 pm »
This is a good tip for those really long cuts. But for what it's worth, you can actually build the fence with even less parts:

Just cut off one side of the factory-cut straight edge of the board. Then flip it over, screw it into itself making that factory edge the new fence. Then rip off the excess. Final result looks like this:


Now why didnt I think of that  :banghead:
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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #40 on: July 21, 2015, 06:41:01 pm »
There's been a saw board sticky here on this board since 2005...  :dizzy:

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« Reply #41 on: July 21, 2015, 07:02:37 pm »
There's been a saw board sticky here on this board since 2005...  :dizzy:

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,43568.0.html
sorry.... didnt know. Was googling all kinds of "mame cabinet track saw" type stuff and never seen it.

Just trying to consolidate my adventure building this thing. There wasnt alot of slim cab builds I could find using a 32" tv so Im sure people in the future might find this through google. I searched and searched for 32" slim cab builds and it wasnt untill I found chances build thread that I felt I had enough details to start. So thanks to chances top notch build and documentation I grew the balls to start my own. I dont have alot of funds so might have to cut some corners but hopefully end up with something "living room worthy and how I went about it might help someone.
Im already thinking of an idea for a diy t- slot cutter..... but if I need a router for sanwa jlf sticks then I probably will buy a router anyway
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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #42 on: July 21, 2015, 07:20:07 pm »
There's been a saw board sticky here on this board since 2005...  :dizzy:

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,43568.0.html
sorry.... didnt know. Was googling all kinds of "mame cabinet track saw" type stuff and never seen it.

Just trying to consolidate my adventure building this thing. There wasnt alot of slim cab builds I could find using a 32" tv so Im sure people in the future might find this through google. I searched and searched for 32" slim cab builds and it wasnt untill I found chances build thread that I felt I had enough details to start. So thanks to chances top notch build and documentation I grew the balls to start my own. I dont have alot of funds so might have to cut some corners but hopefully end up with something "living room worthy and how I went about it might help someone.
Im already thinking of an idea for a diy t- slot cutter..... but if I need a router for sanwa jlf sticks then I probably will buy a router anyway

Don't cut corners on the slot cutting. You can get a good cheap Ryobi router at Home Depot. It's the one tool I'll never regret buying.
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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #43 on: July 21, 2015, 10:27:39 pm »
There's been a saw board sticky here on this board since 2005...  :dizzy:

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,43568.0.html
sorry.... didnt know. Was googling all kinds of "mame cabinet track saw" type stuff and never seen it.

Just trying to consolidate my adventure building this thing. There wasnt alot of slim cab builds I could find using a 32" tv so Im sure people in the future might find this through google. I searched and searched for 32" slim cab builds and it wasnt untill I found chances build thread that I felt I had enough details to start. So thanks to chances top notch build and documentation I grew the balls to start my own. I dont have alot of funds so might have to cut some corners but hopefully end up with something "living room worthy and how I went about it might help someone.
Im already thinking of an idea for a diy t- slot cutter..... but if I need a router for sanwa jlf sticks then I probably will buy a router anyway

Don't cut corners on the slot cutting. You can get a good cheap Ryobi router at Home Depot. It's the one tool I'll never regret buying.

ok.... ill probably need one for my control panel. I think im going for sanwa jlf sticks and have no idea yet whats all needed to install them
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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #44 on: July 21, 2015, 10:34:56 pm »
I think im going for sanwa jlf sticks and have no idea yet whats all needed to install them
Check out the list of 6 mounting techniques here in the FAQ.


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« Reply #45 on: July 21, 2015, 10:49:12 pm »
I think im going for sanwa jlf sticks and have no idea yet whats all needed to install them
Check out the list of 6 mounting techniques here in the FAQ.


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thanks for the link...Ill check it out.


Well.... I hit up Staples after work since at work.... the engineer acted like he didnt think he could print it at 100% scale and he has a 48" wide roll printer so I know it was possible.
Staples charged $8 ea.... I grabbed 2 copies.

Then I got home,mowed, and hit the garage to work on the cab. Sat there for about an hour getting nothing done wondering how I would pull off the 45* angled cuts.... Was getting discouraged and almost gave up for the day but after a couple beers I dove in  :cheers:

Had to get creative to get all the 45* angle pieces cut right using only hand tools  :timebomb:
Its not on the level of some of you more experienced builders but it turned out better than I thought considering the tools I was stuck using.
Checked my box of hole saws and 2.5" was the biggest I had so had to layout a pattern and cut alot of vent holes. Will get fan covers for them or metal netting from inside- not sure which yet.

I noticed I overlooked leaving a gap between glueblocks at the top marquee area for the marquee light backstop, Ive decided Ill just wait untill the cabs fully assembled and measur/cut out a backstop for the light out of thin mdf or something, then cover it and any gaps with alum tape .

Pretty satisfying and fun hobby sofar I must admit.

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Oh..... the piece of wood you see sticking out of the top is just a scrap piece i laid up there for the rim/tire to sit on....needed weight  to help close the small gap between the 2 angled pieces untill the glue sets. I was too scared to try and screw it- ply to ply with a funky angle, figured it would splinter out.
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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #46 on: July 22, 2015, 06:00:55 am »
Going to pick up a router friday.

Does it matter between a fixed base and plunge base?
Is my assumption right that a fixed base only will do a certain depth and that a plunge base I would be able to set the depth?

What bit would I need to do my CP ?  Just a straight cut bit? Using 3/4" ...do most people just cut out 1/2" for joysticks?

The slotting bit I need is a 3/16" or 1/8" ?

Thinking about getting this one....
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000IEFIBO/ref=mp_s_a_1_9?qid=1437559387&sr=1-9&pi=AC_SX110_SY165_QL70

Or do you think a Ryobi would last longer?
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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #47 on: July 22, 2015, 09:33:29 am »
A fixed-base router will allow you to set the depth of cut, but you'd typically have to start the cut from "outside" the piece (or in the center of a pre-cut opening); a plunge base will allow you to start the cut in the middle of the piece without existing holes. So, for example, if you needed to rebate the backside (or the top) of the control panel to accommodate your joystick mounting plates, you'd need a plunge base; if you're cutting dadoes (or t-slots), then a fixed base would do just fine. Of course, with a plunge base, you can typically lock it in at a specific depth and treat it more or less like a fixed base, but depending on the models, the depth adjustment options might differ from base to base.

My two cents. Someone with more knowledge and/or experience will be able to elaborate or correct any misstatements, I'm sure! :)
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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #48 on: July 22, 2015, 10:56:46 am »
You can actually have the best of both worlds if you want. Bosch makes a fixed-base that also slides into a separate plunger if you want:

http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-1617EVSPK-4-Horsepower-Variable-Collets/dp/B00005RHPD/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1437576470&sr=8-8&keywords=router+tool

DeWalt makes one as well:

http://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DW618PK-12-AMP-Fixed-Base-Variable-Speed/dp/B00006JKXE/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1437576784&sr=8-3&keywords=router+tool

They may seem expensive but they are worth every penny in my opinion. Extremely versatile tools. I don't know how anyone builds a cab without one.
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« Reply #49 on: July 22, 2015, 10:58:56 am »
I actually have the Bosch 1617EVSPK :) It's so much fun -- if only I had more excuses to put it to use! :(

You can actually have the best of both worlds if you want. Bosch makes a fixed-base that also slides into a separate plunger if you want:

http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-1617EVSPK-4-Horsepower-Variable-Collets/dp/B00005RHPD/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1437576470&sr=8-8&keywords=router+tool

DeWalt makes one as well:

http://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DW618PK-12-AMP-Fixed-Base-Variable-Speed/dp/B00006JKXE/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1437576784&sr=8-3&keywords=router+tool

They may seem expensive but they are worth every penny in my opinion. Extremely versatile tools. I don't know how anyone builds a cab without one.

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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #50 on: July 22, 2015, 11:00:51 am »
The slotting bit I need is a 3/16" or 1/8" ?

Have a look at T-molding.com  This page in particular tells you the exact slot cutter size you need for the "spine" size of the t-molding:

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« Reply #51 on: July 22, 2015, 12:49:26 pm »
I need some opinions...

I put my 4p vendetta cab on craigslist for 250, Ive had alot of $150 offers.
Debating if I should sell it or keep it for the coin doors.
It has 2 dual coin door/mechs , and 2 of the doors for accessing the coin buckets, and 2 coin buckets.
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I see coin mechs are pricey.Could these be used on my mame cab?
Are the coin doors just for looks/novelty more than function?
I mean dont most cabs with coin doors also have coin buttons on cp?


selling it would give me a little cash to throw at the 32" tv i need , but if coin doors are desireable than id probably save money using these than buying new.

Whats your thoughts on coin doors? Do you actually use them? Or does the quarter feeding get old and eventually bypassed?
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« Reply #52 on: July 22, 2015, 01:00:59 pm »
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I see coin mechs are pricey.Could these be used on my mame cab?

Yes. Unless they have been abused and the switch doesn't work on them. (But then you can just replace that too)

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Are the coin doors just for looks/novelty more than function?

I love the look of coin doors because they add to the charm and authentic look. But they can also function just the same.

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I mean don't most cabs with coin doors also have coin buttons on cp?

Yes, but even that is up to you. I'd definitely put coin buttons on the cp. You will disappoint yourself later if you don't.

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Whats your thoughts on coin doors? Do you actually use them? Or does the quarter feeding get old and eventually bypassed?

Feeding quarters gets old very quickly and using a coin button is the way to go. However, it's fun sometimes to show a friend that the coin mech works just like a real arcade.
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« Reply #53 on: July 22, 2015, 01:11:48 pm »
As far as coin doors go, I have a friend who's reserved an over/under setup for me (not sure if the mechs work, but I'll fix them or get new), and whenver I get my stuff together, my goal is to have my kids earn tokens which they can then spend on the machine.

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« Reply #54 on: July 22, 2015, 02:02:41 pm »
Coin doors on any arcade project. Otherwise, it's just a piece of furniture that can play video games. :cheers:
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« Reply #55 on: July 22, 2015, 02:21:22 pm »
Ok.... i dont want to skimp on the coin mechs.

The question now is....

Would you rob the vendetta cab of the coin doors, or sell the vendetta cab for $150 to go torwards new coin doors?

do all 4 player games require 4 coin mechs or could one get by on 4p games with 1 coin mech?
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« Reply #56 on: July 22, 2015, 04:02:36 pm »
do all 4 player games require 4 coin mechs or could one get by on 4p games with 1 coin mech?

Some games require each player have their own mech/coin input , like TMNT. You can somewhat get around this by mapping 1 coin input to all 4 players. This will create the issue of , for example, all 4 turtles getting credits when only 1 to 3 people are playing.
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« Reply #57 on: July 22, 2015, 04:06:33 pm »
do all 4 player games require 4 coin mechs or could one get by on 4p games with 1 coin mech?

Some games require each player have their own mech/coin input , like TMNT. You can somewhat get around this by mapping 1 coin input to all 4 players. This will create the issue of , for example, all 4 turtles getting credits when only 1 to 3 people are playing.

I could live with that solong as it dont drop all 4 players in game as soon as they get credits. Know of any games that do that?
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« Reply #58 on: July 22, 2015, 04:32:08 pm »
do all 4 player games require 4 coin mechs or could one get by on 4p games with 1 coin mech?

Some games require each player have their own mech/coin input , like TMNT. You can somewhat get around this by mapping 1 coin input to all 4 players. This will create the issue of , for example, all 4 turtles getting credits when only 1 to 3 people are playing.
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« Reply #59 on: July 22, 2015, 08:54:08 pm »
Got the top back panel cut and screwed in, need more ply.

I had a piece of the 3/4 pine left so figured Id use it for the CP top.
Laid out the template and centerpunched everything. Then came the rookie mistake......  :angry:  :angry:  :angry:
I didnt clamp the sheet down and on my first button hole when it broke through it grabbed and tore a chunk out of the hole. Was going to quit but figured I would finish it and use it as practice.
After clamping I didnt have any issues..... So what can I do? Fill the area that tore out with putty and then shape that button hole with my dremel and a sanding drum?

I drilled the holes on an old table so had a surface under the CP and figured that would stop splintering on the backside....It didnt  :angry:
The angle grinder and a resin sanding pad made short work of removing the splintered areas and its smooth as a babys but t , Now though theres a slight dishing on the backside of the button groups, Will this cause any issues with buttons sitting flush?

Oh I tried the spade drilling halfway then flipping and finished from other side on a scrap piece- and it splintered even worse.
It looks fine now that I sanded the splinters away but had to dish out about 1/16" of material so just worried about that causing issues.



edit..... also.... does the stick holes look too close to the buttons?  :badmood:
( this is how the template was I got online, I thought they looked too close but figured once it was drilled/cut out at 100% size it would be ok but they still look close to me.
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« Reply #60 on: July 23, 2015, 01:20:18 am »
Don't worry in the slightest about the backside.  I mean, you'd literally need to run a table saw across the button clusters for it to make any difference.

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« Reply #61 on: July 23, 2015, 07:22:19 am »
do all 4 player games require 4 coin mechs or could one get by on 4p games with 1 coin mech?

Some games require each player have their own mech/coin input , like TMNT. You can somewhat get around this by mapping 1 coin input to all 4 players. This will create the issue of , for example, all 4 turtles getting credits when only 1 to 3 people are playing.
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« Reply #62 on: July 23, 2015, 12:13:15 pm »
splintering on the backside.

You probably already realize this now but next time use a Forstner Drill Bit

Of course, a Forstner bit will not stop the splintering, only a scrap board on the backside can stop that. But a Forster bit does a more elegant job and is easier to control than a spade bit.

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does the stick holes look too close to the buttons?

Hard to tell for sure in the pictures, but they do look a little tight to me. Specifically the 2 layouts in the center of the control panel. I'd be really sure you are ok with that arrangement. Now is the time .
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« Reply #63 on: July 23, 2015, 12:43:11 pm »
Anyone know the average (or their) distance from center of stick to edge of closest button?
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« Reply #64 on: July 23, 2015, 01:02:29 pm »
Well center of joystick hole (5/8") to center of the closest button hole (30mm) on my design is 2.97"
Center of joystick hole to edge of button hole(30mm) is 2.38" (approx 60mm)


Looking at your pics I think you are good to go

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« Reply #65 on: July 23, 2015, 02:24:45 pm »
Well center of joystick hole (5/8") to center of the closest button hole (30mm) on my design is 2.97"
Center of joystick hole to edge of button hole(30mm) is 2.38" (approx 60mm)


Looking at your pics I think you are good to go
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« Reply #66 on: July 23, 2015, 05:53:21 pm »
Center to center I only got about 2.75"
My old vendetta cab has 3.5"

I dont understand why with such a big CP someone laid it out that close.

Its going to have to work I guess
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« Reply #67 on: July 23, 2015, 07:20:48 pm »
Center to center I only got about 2.75"
My old vendetta cab has 3.5"

I dont understand why with such a big CP someone laid it out that close.

Its going to have to work I guess
Because you're planning to squeeze 4 mofos around that thing?
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« Reply #68 on: July 23, 2015, 07:54:57 pm »
Center to center I only got about 2.75"
My old vendetta cab has 3.5"

I dont understand why with such a big CP someone laid it out that close.

Its going to have to work I guess
Because you're planning to squeeze 4 mofos around that thing?
Lol true man true.... I think It will be ok, Im not going to change things to find out the trackball wont fit down the road.

I cut the CP out.... the 2 radius cuts called for a 3" hole saw but biggest I have is 2.5" Still need to get a 3" for the trackball.
Anyway cut it out with my janky skillsaw and it turned out great. Except that one chipped button hole- drives me nuts seeing it  :banghead:
Will get putty and more ply this weekend.

Mocked the CP up on the cab..... finally!.....starting to look like something  :applaud: Still.... A long way to go.

I have a new found respect for cabinet builders. Its a long detail orientated project. Fun but daunting for me as its my first build and still clueless about the proper way to do everything like mounting the sticks etc.... before I even jump that far ahead I still need to complete my CP and it has alot of angles and I have no miter  :dunno
To make things worse...I got in a hurry to start the project and somehow missed Chances comment that he cut his sides to hold the CP at a slight angle so now must angle my CP frame  :banghead:

I was lined up to sell my vendetta cab for $225 this weekend but now having second thoughts. I just found out about those 500-in-1....  619-in-1 .....xxxx-in-1 jamma boards and think it would be nice to install one in the vendetta cab and just move the p3,p4 buttons to players 1 and 2 giving both players 6. Then Id have a beater machine for the garage and it would hold me over while I took my time finishing this project.
Could also borrow one of the old cabs dual coin doors for this new project.

But then another part of me says to sell it and use the money to get the 32" screen I need. Im tight on funds right now with 4 kids going back to school soon. Uggg....what to do.

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« Reply #69 on: July 23, 2015, 07:55:43 pm »
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« Reply #70 on: July 23, 2015, 08:36:00 pm »
...somehow missed Chances comment that he cut his sides to hold the CP at a slight angle so now must angle my CP frame.

Yeh, haha. That 4 angle is in the finished plans I have in my thread that are available for download. You're building from my "pre-production" plans, remeber.  To save time and pulling your hair out trying to design an angled CP box, I'd put a protractor up to the sides and add that slant to the ledges before going any further. Put it on its side and just trim them up with a scroll saw.

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« Reply #71 on: July 23, 2015, 08:40:09 pm »
...somehow missed Chances comment that he cut his sides to hold the CP at a slight angle so now must angle my CP frame.

Yeh, haha. That 4 angle is in the finished plans I have in my thread that are available for download. You're building from my "pre-production" plans, remeber.  To save time and pulling your hair out trying to design an angled CP box, I'd put a protractor up to the sides and add that slant to the ledges before going any further. Put it on its side and just trim them up with a scroll saw.

Yeah... I thought about doing something like that problem is Ive got that CP cross support board already glued/screwed in and another strip glued/screwed to the front of that.
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« Reply #72 on: July 23, 2015, 08:52:09 pm »
Pull the screws, then take a skil saw and cut them off. Problem solved. :D

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« Reply #73 on: July 23, 2015, 09:07:47 pm »
Pull the screws, then take a skil saw and cut them off. Problem solved. :D

Ill probably give a go at the angled frame with the scrap ply I have...... and when that dont work (lol) ill go back and angle my side panels
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« Reply #74 on: July 24, 2015, 05:22:29 pm »
Whats the best thing to use one that notched out button hole? Bought some wood filler but dont know if it will work.
I have some marine epoxy putty.... think I should use that? Or should I get bondo?
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« Reply #75 on: July 24, 2015, 05:32:56 pm »
The notching is on the under/back side isn't it?  If so, don't worry about it.  The nuts have enough surface area that they really don't care, combined with the surface area of the button bezel...  LOADS of sins just disappear.

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« Reply #76 on: July 24, 2015, 05:37:09 pm »
The notching is on the under/back side isn't it?  If so, don't worry about it.  The nuts have enough surface area that they really don't care, combined with the surface area of the button bezel...  LOADS of sins just disappear.

The first hole I drilled before I clamped the piece jumped on me and tore a chunk out of the button hole making it oblong  I dont think the button bezel will cover it.
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« Reply #77 on: July 24, 2015, 05:38:32 pm »
Worst case, if the bezel doesn't cover it, is to just use some wood filler or bondo.  LOVE me some bondo, fixes more screwups than you can shake a joystick at.

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« Reply #78 on: July 24, 2015, 05:42:26 pm »
The few times I've done that, I use wood filler. But like Slippy says, see if the button bezel (or your artwork) covers it up. Unless you're that anal-retentive, it shouldn't have an effect on anything.
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« Reply #79 on: July 25, 2015, 11:28:29 pm »
Spent the whole day making sawdust and emptying beer bottles  :cheers:  I will be sooooooo glad when the woodworking phase is over!!!   :dizzy:

First I cut out the front bottom panel, the rear bottom panel, and then the front door. What type of hinge will work with this? (see bottom pic)

Then I used filler to fix the chipped out button hole, it worked pretty good....

Spent most of the day mapping out my bottom CP base and sides of the box.
Brainstorming I think I came up with an idea that will work pretty good to get the slant I need in my CP.
I plotted out the base to be wrapped with the sides instead of sides sitting ontop of the CP base.
Cut my box strips and I used a grinder/ sanding pad to angle the ends. This worked fast and easy.

I covered the outside perimeter of the CP base with clear packing tape to prevent glue from sticking to it and built my box around the base- gluing and pinning with finishing nails.

Once it is cured I will remove the base and flip the box over, the side that sat on the floor will be flush and will be the top that the CP top sits on. Then I can insert the base back in the box and I will set my height in the rear of the CP and pin the CP base inside the box with 2 screws, then the CP base will be able to freely move inside the box like a hinge. This will let me swivel the front down to get the angle I want, glue and screw it, while keeping a flush top and all the excess at the bottom- below the base that I will remove with skill saw and sand flush with grinder.

Then I can use filler, and straighten/shape all the box edges.
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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #80 on: July 26, 2015, 08:10:19 pm »
The first pic represents the sum of man hours Ive got in this sofar  :cheers: Plenty more to come Im sure.

The pics show how I angled my CP its kind of hard to explain without pics.
The frame fits around the base. I found the height I needed in the back of the CP and pinned the base there with a couple screws.
The front then is allowed to pivot, found my depth I wanted (ended up being an inch shorter than the back and pinned it there after adding glue to the sides while the base was pivoted up.

Then I went around the perimeter lining everything up and getting rid of the bow in the base... glued and screwed.  ;D
You can see in one of the pics how all my excess framing was left on the underside of the CP. I marked it all around where it needed cutoff using my combo square as a depth gauge.

Zipped of the excess with the skillsaw, then used my grinder/ resin sanding pad to smooth/flush the bit that was left.
An angle grinder with these resin sanding pads are awesome for removing large amounts of material quickly.... yet you can use it to shape, sand,and smooth a lot of detail with a light hand.

Used wood filler and its drying now. Test fit it and realized I needed to angle the small control panel back shoulder area on the cabs sides since the back of the CP was not 90 angle.... the grinder took care of that too, and just in time as the motor is almost burnt out.

Tomorrow I will finish sand the CP and need to get a piano hinge....are these available at places like menards,lowes,etc?

going to grab some aluminum angle for the marquee area and work on that.
Im scared to dive into the speaker panel area until I got my screen in so I know how deep it needs to go etc.... but im going to have to wait till the next paycheck to get the 32" tv.

Im worried about the sticks,buttons,trackball fitting under the hood now. The CP only has like  1 1/2" under the the panel in the front... 2 1/2" in the rear. I might have to do some serious routing out on both pieces....might even have to cut some windows out of the CP base  :(





EDIT......................................................................
..... I think I will be going with the u-track pearl trackball. Seems the base under the CP is 2" so I will probably need to remove a small area of material underneath for the edge closest to the front of the CP.
Ultimarks site states.... "Optional Full-Speed USB interface, or connect directly to our Mini-PAC or Opti-PAC interfaces"....
Whats any differences or pros or cons going with the usb interface vs something like the opti-pac?
Should I have dedicated buttons for the trackball? Should I be setting up the trackball as a mouse?

I planned on getting modded led sanwa jlf sticks and sanwa led buttons from paradise due to reading they were great for fighting games which I will be playing alot of, but looks like I might have to cheap out and get paradises $2 LED buttons and there noname LED sticks that are $25. I grew up with happ sticks and buttons but never liked how stiff they were and the long stiff throw on the happ buttons.

Wanting cheap, good,sensitive controls (are these 3 possible) also LED illuminated..... Is there any other alternatives I should consider?
The zippy sticks seem to be decent as they are based off the Seimitsu LS-32 sticks and the price is right but then I wouldnt have LED's...just wondered how those paradise noname led sticks compared.

Ive never bought or used any controls other than the classic old happ stuff so any suggesstions here are appreciated.

So..... getting the u-track with usb or opti-pac (dont know the difference)
An  I-PAC 4
still need to decide on sticks and buttons
Im assuming i need a crapton of wire in the 20/22 gage size, disconnects,shrinkwrap........ anything else I am forgetting for the CP besides the start/coin/admin buttons?

I would like to get my TV this week and the controls but maybe only able to choose one or the other.  :badmood:
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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #81 on: July 27, 2015, 10:51:11 pm »
No input on controls?  ???

c,mon guys im clueless besides limited conflicting comments ive found online   :dizzy:


Well... Heres my second attempt at my CP art. I toned it down ...lol... and am going with a MK vs SF theme.... I know, I wont win any awards for originality on my theme but those are 2 of the games I remember waiting in line to play for hours as a youngin just to step up with the older kids and get whooped in 10 seconds, then back to the end of the line again...lol.

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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #82 on: July 27, 2015, 11:14:18 pm »
Hmmm. Controls are very subjective these days. I almost feel like some people are afraid to give their 2 cents because they want to avoid having to start a debate that takes off to a bad place. (Worst case).

What worked for me was JSticks and a trackball from Ultimarc, and IL buttons and LED's from ParadiseArcade.

I'd say go with a couple Ultimate I/O from Ultimarc. To control your lighting and button input. grab four simple and cost effective J-sticks from them too. Maybe even to keep things simple buy their button LEDs as well. And maybe buttons too, or look at modifying IL Buttons from Paradise, or CLASSX buttons from Groovy Game Gear. I'm a big fan of those CLASSX leaf switch buttons.

Really though, the best advise I can give you is: DONT OVER THINK IT.   A pair of Ultimarc UltimateI/O boards is a good place to start.  Asking everyone why you should go J-Stick vs. True leaf vs. Sanwa vs whatever will give you a spinning headache.


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« Reply #83 on: July 27, 2015, 11:44:49 pm »


Hmmm. Controls are very subjective these days.

These days? Try "the history of this site".

But I agree with you. Don't over think it. You seem to be a fighter fan - get fighter sticks.
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« Reply #84 on: July 28, 2015, 12:36:33 am »
Any input on things to remove,add,change, etc wont be taken harshly and are appreciated.

My opinion...since you asked:

- Lose the 0s and 1s vortex. It simply doesn't fit wtih MK or SF
- Definitely lose the "Hyperspin", "Classics" and "Mame" logos. Nobody needs to be reminded what software you are running
- Maybe its just me but I don't get the "Street Fighter" vs "Mortal Kombat". These games have never crossed over.

It's certainly better than your first artwork attempt but remember you have to stare at it every day. Make sure you really like it.

Of course, I'm no artwork guy so have you thought about using one of the skilled artwork guys on this forum?
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« Reply #85 on: July 28, 2015, 10:56:43 am »
I dont have alot of disposible income to hire a graphics artist, i took cg years ago but havent used ps in a decade just playing around with ideas. Some people pride themselves in doing the work themselves even if its shite.

Like I said.... those are the two games I remembered standing in line for so dont just want a run of the mill stock art'ed cab.
The problem is the  next to none' amount of  images free to use that i can find over 20mb that wont look like pixelated crap when scaled to these sizes. That matrix background,or stars or, lightning are basically all i can find, same with kitana and chun li.

Everyone on the forums knows what mame and hyperspin are but what about people who come overand see it. Might give them motivation to search up on them. I was tired when I did the mk vs sf logo, I dont like it and will change it, probably change a few things but I wont post them here.... anything breaking away from traditional is frowned here it seems. Or my layout is just really that bad.... doesnt matter
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« Reply #86 on: July 28, 2015, 12:03:08 pm »
I actually think you did a fairly nice job on the CP art, the "matrix" style background integrates well with the trackball placement. If your two favorites were SF and MC, then I say go ahead, it's you that needs to like it. There are loads of cabs on here that share video game characters and non-arcade related themes and they work well (admittedly, however, most don't  >:D). As for the 3 small logos...mehhh, maybe find a home for them on the side art and keep the CP clean.

You seem to be making good progress, keep at it and don't get discouraged by some constructive criticism, some other builders on here have gotten harsher criticisms than yourself and made it out in one piece.

Good luck either way :cheers:

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« Reply #87 on: July 28, 2015, 12:47:14 pm »
I actually think you did a fairly nice job on the CP art, the "matrix" style background integrates well with the trackball placement. If your two favorites were SF and MC, then I say go ahead, it's you that needs to like it. There are loads of cabs on here that share video game characters and non-arcade related themes and they work well (admittedly, however, most don't  >:D). As for the 3 small logos...mehhh, maybe find a home for them on the side art and keep the CP clean.

You seem to be making good progress, keep at it and don't get discouraged by some constructive criticism, some other builders on here have gotten harsher criticisms than yourself and made it out in one piece.

Good luck either way :cheers:

Appreciate it...

I would just like to find some more/better large format images to use.
I literally only found one or two for each character that was big enough to use.
Im using google images and selecting image size as a filter... still not much luck.
Deviant art has some good stuff but nothing large enough. Anyone know of any other sources?
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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #88 on: July 28, 2015, 01:11:59 pm »
I dont have alot of disposible income to hire a graphics artist, i took cg years ago but havent used ps in a decade just playing around with ideas. Some people pride themselves in doing the work themselves even if its shite.

This irks me.   Don't ask for opinions then dismiss them. VW was articulate in his reply and didn't cross any line of being insulting. Either don't ask for advice or be grateful someone took the time to politely give you theirs.
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« Reply #89 on: July 28, 2015, 03:56:42 pm »
I dont have alot of disposible income to hire a graphics artist, i took cg years ago but havent used ps in a decade just playing around with ideas. Some people pride themselves in doing the work themselves even if its shite.

This irks me.   Don't ask for opinions then dismiss them. VW was articulate in his reply and didn't cross any line of being insulting. Either don't ask for advice or be grateful someone took the time to politely give you theirs.

His post was fine, criticism was fine...I asked for it.
What "irked"(how old are we?)me was saying give up and hire an artist (in more or less words before you start quoting)
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« Reply #90 on: July 28, 2015, 05:37:19 pm »
anything breaking away from traditional is frowned here it seems.

Disagree. Take a look at Ond's work. It is FAR from traditional, yet is the most exalted work on the forum. Some people are too close to their work, with little to no experience, to realize their mistakes. Even when multiple members point them out. I do find the "I'll show 'em" attitude entertaining though, it's not my money wasted.

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« Reply #91 on: July 28, 2015, 05:41:28 pm »
give up and hire an artist

My apologies deezdrama. It's hard to convey tone in a forum. Please understand that I didn't mean to have to you just throw in the towel and give up on the art. Rather, I just wanted you to know that there are very skilled artist on this forum that you can utilize. Just in case you didn't know. I didn't know when I first started. Just like their are skilled CRT guys, wiring guys, soldering/circuit guys, woodworking guys, etc.  It's actually kinda the point of the whole forum really. Some guys are good at everything and can do it all. Some guys are really, really exceptional in some areas and like to help out others. It's the spirit of this community. There is no shame in outsourcing some of your work.

I'm also absolutely terrible with creating original art so I would surrender myself to the experts on my build.

All this being said, it doesn't mean you still have to use a professional. You can certainly do the artwork yourself and many people have. For example, the 2 recent threads that come to mind are:

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,145188.0.html

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,145989.0.html

In each of these threads you will see the OP getting some good old fashioned criticism. They can take it or leave it. But the OPs took it in stride and had many revisions in their artwork. Their builds evolved and in the end their artwork was better for it. They kept refining it and making it better and yet their original vision still held up.

Stick with it, I think you are on the right track it just may take some time and several rips at it.  :cheers:

I think most guys here will agree that when the build is over and their thread posting is done that the "Journey is the reward"
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« Reply #92 on: July 28, 2015, 06:14:16 pm »
anything breaking away from traditional is frowned here it seems. Or my layout is just really that bad.... doesnt matter

Anything LAZY is generally frowned upon. Breaking away from traditional isn't if it's inspired.

I thought your first layout was really that bad. This second one is better.
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« Reply #93 on: July 28, 2015, 07:05:27 pm »
Maybee third time will be the charm. I just cant find crap for images big enough to use so very limited.
I dont know where everyone gets there giant sized images
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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #94 on: July 28, 2015, 07:09:29 pm »
Most of the images you see folks using are actually vector images.  Vector images scale.  What you are using is raster images - those don't scale.  Vector images are created with programs like Inkscape (free) or Illustrator (not free).  If you don't mind learning a new program, you can import a raster image into one of these programs and trace them out into a vector format, then you can scale them to any size you want without loss of quality.

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« Reply #95 on: July 28, 2015, 07:16:07 pm »
I have both programs just downloaded inkscape the other day. I dont remember how to use illustrator ... if I could get a layout im happy with im going to read some tutorials and do some button overlays and linework if I have time to figure it out.

What about side art for more realistic type images and not line art.... do you just have to deal with the blown pixels?

I guess i need to start relearning illustrator
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« Reply #96 on: July 29, 2015, 12:54:34 pm »
You can do photorealistic work in Illustrator, too:

http://basangpanaginip.blogspot.com/2006/07/worlds-most-photorealistic-vector-art.html

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« Reply #97 on: July 30, 2015, 12:59:04 am »
Other members might smack me over the head for suggesting this but if you are desperate for artwork and only have raster images, you could give Vector Magic a try. It lets you upload a raster image and it automatically converts/traces it to vector. It's not perfect but it could get you started. It obviously works much better with images that lack excessive shading and already look flat and simple. Cartoonish if you will. I've never tried it with a photo realistic image but it could be fun to play with. At the very least you can test it with logos. Those typically turn out ok.

However, keep in mind that you should keep the theme of your cab consistent throughout. If you use CGI images on your control panel, then do the same for your sides. If you like photo realistic more, then just make sure you use it everywhere.

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« Reply #98 on: July 30, 2015, 07:40:18 pm »
Other members might smack me over the head for suggesting this but if you are desperate for artwork and only have raster images, you could give Vector Magic a try. It lets you upload a raster image and it automatically converts/traces it to vector. It's not perfect but it could get you started. It obviously works much better with images that lack excessive shading and already look flat and simple. Cartoonish if you will. I've never tried it with a photo realistic image but it could be fun to play with. At the very least you can test it with logos. Those typically turn out ok.

However, keep in mind that you should keep the theme of your cab consistent throughout. If you use CGI images on your control panel, then do the same for your sides. If you like photo realistic more, then just make sure you use it everywhere.

Remember, I'm no artwork guy just spitballin' here.

Ill look into it, cant you vector trace with illustrator as well?

Sorry for the way I acted the other day. My CP overlay really did look crappy.
I realize that now and trying to get something decent and since this is my first cab - I should be listening to you guys more.
So.... Im not going to let criticism get to me  ;D

And I have a different CP overlay for you guys to throw tomatoes at...

I think it might work but will be hard for me to match comic style sideart but think I can pull something off half acceptable if I can play with vectorizing some images and making a similar designed background as whats in the CP.

Anyway Ive been playing around with button overlays but they just arent looking right to me.
Is the CP with button overlays or without overlays heading in the right direction?
Should I make the directional arrows for the sticks a solid color or leave the blue/yellow? Should I remove all the button overlays? Adjust transparency?
 
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« Reply #99 on: July 30, 2015, 07:56:18 pm »
Personally, I like translucent overlays.  Without anything it tends to look like the buttons are kind of floating in the image, with no grounding.

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« Reply #100 on: July 30, 2015, 08:09:42 pm »
Player 4 stick may obstruct Scorpion's face


I'd move the whole image a bit left.
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« Reply #101 on: July 30, 2015, 08:13:31 pm »
I'm going to throw this out, just as advice. Take it or leave it however you want.

I've never been a fan of control panels that have characters on them, or scenes, or anything like that. When designing my first MAME control panel, I researched a lot of them, & I found that most classic machines have a control panel that made it look like it was an organic part of the machine. Lots of them had boxes on them, lines, shapes, and designs. Look at like Space Invaders, which was that show you which way to move the joystick, or a Defender, which makes it looks like you use it to control the actual ship. Hell, even look at something like a Mortal Kombat, what you seem to like, which doesn't have characters on it at all. The best control panels seem to bring your attention to the controls and how you use them. There's nothing else on there that serves as a distraction. The best place to put characters still seems to be the side art.

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« Reply #102 on: July 30, 2015, 08:14:05 pm »
Really love what you have going now. And +1 on the two suggestions above.  :applaud:
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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #103 on: July 30, 2015, 09:07:17 pm »
Ya I had a lot of trouble scaling and placing because of their faces. I had it a little to the left and didnt like that it cut subzeros hand off bit will definately play with it some more.

So i should go with both top and player button group overlays?

This is just a draft phase.... i dont like how the player button group overlay looks so going to redo them but wanted to see what the consensus was on if I should have them or not at all.

Yotsuya... I know what your saying. I thought about just throwing a 4 player twist to a stock mk CPO but want to do something different. I did use the mk1 CP button windows for the top button overlay area on mine :P
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« Reply #104 on: July 31, 2015, 06:00:28 am »
Ordered wall mount. Need to pick a tv...

Anyone have experience with either one of these? I know sceptre is an offbrand but has almost 3000 reviews.... would probably be safer going with the Sharp though


http://www.bestbuy.com/site/sharp-32-class-31-1-2-diag--led-1080p-hdtv-black/5420105.p?id=1219128175325

http://www.walmart.com/ip/SCEPTRE-X325BV-FMDR-32-LED-Class-1080P-HDTV-with-Ultra-Slim-Metal-Brush-Bezel-MHL/25059349

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« Reply #105 on: July 31, 2015, 10:41:32 am »
The Sharp only has HDMI inputs on the side. As far as I can tell. If that matters to you.

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« Reply #106 on: July 31, 2015, 04:56:45 pm »
The Sharp only has HDMI inputs on the side. As far as I can tell. If that matters to you.

I wonder if it would stick out too far for it to fit in the cab or do they have hdmi cables with a 90 degree bend ? My biggest concern is in the pics... I dont see the 4 threaded holes for wall mounting, but then in the reviews a couple people mentioned wall mounting them.

Also.... Im wondering what speakers I need to order, ive seen a certain logitech system used in allot of builds but cant find it now.... anyone know the model number? And is that the best route to go for decent sound on a budget?
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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #107 on: July 31, 2015, 05:24:44 pm »
Just get a cheap $20/30 pair of logitechs, with or without a sub.  Anything that has an independent volume control knob that's not on one of the actual speakers itself might be helpful as well.

There are 90 adapters for HDMI cables. Monoprice.com should have them for a decent price.

Honestly, never in my life have I seen a flat panel TV larger then 27" that didn't have VESA mounting holes on the back. If you find a TV that does, just don't buy it, as it's probably just that crappy.

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« Reply #108 on: July 31, 2015, 05:43:24 pm »
Also.... Im wondering what speakers I need to order, ive seen a certain logitech system used in allot of builds but cant find it now.... anyone know the model number? And is that the best route to go for decent sound on a budget?

Logitech s120 or S150 are decent cheap speakers (s120's use regular headphone plug and AC plug for power - s150's are USB plug for both power and connection) both can be found for less than $15 - $20 a pair on ebay etc. 

EXAMPLE : S120's for $7.95 shipped ( http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/181043149309?lpid=82&chn=ps )
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« Reply #109 on: July 31, 2015, 05:46:09 pm »
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« Reply #110 on: July 31, 2015, 05:54:46 pm »
Also for the mounting the 4th pic in the Sharp shows them with screws inserted and sceptre has them also (though might be different size not 100x100)


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« Reply #111 on: July 31, 2015, 06:23:00 pm »
Also for the mounting the 4th pic in the Sharp shows them with screws inserted and sceptre has them also (though might be different size not 100x100)

That top pic is from the Sharp link I posted? I just checked again but dont see them. Might be because im using my phone. I will look again when I get home .... thanks for posting this.
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« Reply #112 on: July 31, 2015, 06:38:19 pm »
That top pic is from the Sharp link I posted? I just checked again but dont see them. Might be because im using my phone. I will look again when I get home .... thanks for posting this.

Yep here is a bit more of the screen with the various pics shown it is the 4th one in --

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« Reply #113 on: July 31, 2015, 06:47:13 pm »
Ok.... your attatched pic showed the screws when I clicked on it. When I was just on the website it would not zoom and appeared to have no screws on the rear.  I hate how all sites are forced to mobile version. I should of  forced it to desktop version.

Anyway, I see it now .... will go pick one up tomorrow...thanks.
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« Reply #114 on: July 31, 2015, 06:58:48 pm »
Just saw your build - it's very clean and well thought out.  Keep plugging along, you're doing great!

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« Reply #115 on: July 31, 2015, 07:27:42 pm »
Just saw your build - it's very clean and well thought out.  Keep plugging along, you're doing great!

Cheers!
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Appreciate it, Really just stole Chances build and plans and when I didnt follow directions had to improvise things....lol.
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« Reply #116 on: July 31, 2015, 09:27:45 pm »
Messing with side art and when I saved as psd ... it says it couldnt save because the file exceeded 2gb limit. Anyone know a way around this?
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« Reply #117 on: July 31, 2015, 09:32:13 pm »
Lower the DPI?  Not sure if that would affect the file size.  You could also split it into layers and save each layer into a separate file.

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« Reply #118 on: July 31, 2015, 10:48:58 pm »
Lower the DPI?  Not sure if that would affect the file size.  You could also split it into layers and save each layer into a separate file.

I merged a few layers and got it under 2gb.....


Just curious now..... Who are my options to handle/print these out... and what type file do they need saved in?
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I have had all my artwork printed by BYOAC member  Lucian045
His prints are absolutely fantastic in my opinion. High quality vinyl. Super nice guy and prices are right on. Good turn around time too.
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I've always given him .jpg but if I recall he likes tif. He likes to deal with RGB so make sure you artwork is converted to RGB first and the colors still look right. Make sure they are 1:1 as well.
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I have had all my artwork printed by BYOAC member  Lucian045
His prints are absolutely fantastic in my opinion. High quality vinyl. Super nice guy and prices are right on. Good turn around time too.
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I've always given him .jpg but if I recall he likes tif. He likes to deal with RGB so make sure you artwork is converted to RGB first and the colors still look right. Make sure they are 1:1 as well.

Is he alot cheaper than gameongrafix? Does he do any laminates and / or adhesive backing?


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« Reply #121 on: August 01, 2015, 12:08:30 am »
I can't speak to how he compares to game on graphics. But others here have used them and been happy. Perhaps someone else can comment on them and their prices?

All of Lucian045's prints come with a super strong adhesive backing. He even includes a felt squeegee. He has a tutorial video on you tube as well.

Also forgot to mention a couple other things:

1. Make sure your artwork has "bleed". Meaning it extends over the edge of the wood just a little. Your going to need that little extra to razor off.

2.  Make sure you decide on matte finish or gloss. I imagine you want gloss everywhere. Are you putting lexan over your control panel?  If so, I'm told gloss doesn't play well under lexan. Also know that a matte finish will dull the colors ever so slightly.

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« Reply #122 on: August 01, 2015, 12:19:21 am »
I can't speak to how he compares to game on graphics. But others here have used them and been happy. Perhaps someone else can comment on them and their prices?

All of Lucian045's prints come with a super strong adhesive backing. He even includes a felt squeegee. He has a tutorial video on you tube as well.

Also forgot to mention a couple other things:

1. Make sure your artwork has "bleed". Meaning it extends over the edge of the wood just a little. Your going to need that little extra to razor off.

2.  Make sure you decide on matte finish or gloss. I imagine you want gloss everywhere. Are you putting lexan over your control panel?  If so, I'm told gloss doesn't play well under lexan. Also know that a matte finish will dull the colors ever so slightly.

Did you have any bezel or marquee art?

Have not worked on marquee yet. I need to pick up the 32" screen and get it in there so I can see what room im working with to finish the speaker panel and marquee area. Wont know the exact marquee height untill I do this.

I planned on no screen bezel artwork, the 32" will take up most of the area in the cab and planned on installing tinted smoke 15 tempered glass.

For the CP.... I guess if I just get a vinyl print then I will add some thin acrylic , if I go with a vinyl with laminate then I will skip it.

Im wondering how hard it would be to run mkx from within hyperspin without needing steam or internet.
I almost did a mkx themed cab but then when the next game comes out im obsolete lol. Figured id just go with a basic theme not based on any certain version. Im not real happy with it but spending all this week in photoshop has my eyes feeling like there bleeding and ready to get this cab done and move on to the paint and wiring phases.

Still a long way to go.... feels like it will never get done.
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« Reply #123 on: August 01, 2015, 07:51:52 pm »
Got some more weekend drinking - err work done  ;D

Cutout a piece of cardboard to the dimensions of the screen Im using. Got my speaker panel cut/installed. Went super simple with the speaker mounting design since I dont have them yet. 2.5" holes, eyehooks mounted behind the panel. Will just velcro/ziptie speakers to eyehooks. Yeah...its ghetto.... but will allow the swap of speakers and no dismantling of the speakers. Ill cover the holes in the front with speaker grills backed with black cloth to cover the ugly.

Got my CP box sanded down (pictures from before I sanded) and took measurements for my marquee that I can play with now.

I might have to router some pockets in the bottom CP box.... my lower most button has 1 5/8" clearance under the top CP panel, player 1 and 2 joysticks have 1 3/4" clearance.... I planed on routing a pocket out for them anyway. I will be going with sanwa jlf sticks and paradise LED buttons with 20mg switches.

I really wanted the ultra mark trackball that is flush mount but due to clearance under the cp I might have to go with something else and router out a pocket for it.

Still trying to wrap my head around what exactlly I will need to mount 4 sanwa jlf sticks and have no bolts or plate ontop of the CP.

Oh.... and I got a buzz and test fitted some "custom" sticks  :dunno
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« Reply #124 on: August 01, 2015, 08:17:13 pm »
uggggg, I want it finished  :hissy:  lol
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« Reply #125 on: August 01, 2015, 09:11:44 pm »


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« Reply #126 on: August 01, 2015, 10:57:31 pm »
 :laugh2:  ROFL!!!!

LOVE the beer bottle joysticks.  I wanna see this more often now.

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« Reply #127 on: August 02, 2015, 12:32:39 pm »
Was going to lay out bottlecap buttons but that was just too much lol.


I ordered a plunge router an the slot cutting bit.
What other bits should I order? A cloning bit? What bit do I need for plunge routing out a cove on the bottom of the cp for the sticks?

Speaking of sticks.... Almost ordered a sanwa jlf to see what would need done for bottom mounting with no bolts or holes on the top of the cp. The more I read about mounting the jlf's the more confused and discouraged I get.
I thought I could just route out a cove about 1/2" deep from the cp bottom and use an S - plate to screw into the un routed area next to it. I guess that wont work, the S-plates dont go that deep and the jlf sanwas were meant for thin metal CP tops.
I dont have a problem drilling a custom mounting plate if its not too involved and needing bends etc...

I just really wanted to try these Sanwa jlf's due to there reputation for being great for fighter sticks-  but if its going to need a giant hackjob on the cp to get them installed...then maybee I should just go with some happ sticks or something easier to install  :dunno

Any thoughs on the stick situation..... and suggestions on the router bits I will need or if theres a cheap amazon router bit set that will have what I need (besides slot cutter....already ordered that)...thanks




Edit.........
I didnt realize the j-sticks are sanwa jlw's. These would probably be alot easier to mount.
If I just run J-sticks and bottom mount them without routing, will I just need the longer shafts and the blind mounting kits?

Are the threaded inserts in the pic the same as the ones from ulti? They want $9 for 4 with 4 screws.... I cant see paying $40 for 4 sets.
Ulti states "Available in 2 sizes, 6mm suitable for Mag-Stik and 5mm suitable for all other joysticks."
The ones in the pic are 5mm so assuming they will work and then can just get the screws and washers I need at local bolt shop.




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« Reply #128 on: August 08, 2015, 11:31:43 pm »
Not much progress to report lately...  :embarassed:
Got major family drama going on and have to use my spare time finishing a bedroom build in the basement.

I did get my marquee area finished  :-\
Got some hardware.... tools in.
I know black n decker is bottom shelf stuff from experience in the past but the price was right and amazon had a ton of good reviews.
After playing with the dewalt router at lowes I kind of wish I would of spent a little more on one but as long as this lasts to finish thisproject It will be ok.
Besides the router I got my arbor and t molding slot cutter in. Also found a top bearing 1" x 3/4" width flush trim bit at lowes for $20.

Got a couple paires of speaker grills. If I end up going with chrome ringed buttons I will use the chrome speaker grills otherwise will use the black ones.

I ordered a single pushbutton and sanwa jlf joystick to test fit and make sure I have clearance.
The pushbutton looks identical to paradises but got it from california on ebay.
The microswitch must be like 150g its way to stiff. When I order my buttons I will be going with 20g soft switches.
The jlf feels nice. I like the shorter throw and soft springs but dont know if i can get over the click click clicky click clicks.

I plan on mounting the jlf sticks to the bottom of the cp with threaded wood inserts.
Im thinking about grinding the wood inserts a little shorter and trying to router out a small cove in the joystick area but might just order the extended shafts. $60 for 4 shafts seems like alot though, plus I dont know how longer shafts will affect the feel of the already sensitive jlf's.

Hoping things blow over here so I can get back to this project soon.
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« Reply #129 on: August 16, 2015, 09:42:13 pm »
Got the majority of the room I had to build finished so hopefully will be able to jump back on this cab this next weekend.

I found some sanwa jlf shaft extenders cheap from china on ebay so ordered some.... I wonder if I will need stiffer springs now?

The piano hinge I ordered came and is a joke... its paper thin so will need to order a different one or try to use some concealed hinges.

Anyone ever use concealed hinges for there control panel? Im thinking about using them but would hate to cut out the hole for the hinge cup to realize the hinges wont work.

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« Reply #130 on: August 24, 2015, 05:21:48 pm »
Made a little progress, got the euro hinges/ keyboard tray on slides installed and most of the hardware I needed to finish the woodwork phase.
Just need to finish installing the tv mount crossmember and get the control panel secured with hand knobs and hinges, then slot for t-molding and then I can move on to paint.


My tv came with 4 plastic button washer looking things...they are not in the manual anywhere....no clue what they are for? wall mount bushings is what I thought but they dont seem to fit very good over the vesa holes.

Also when I hooked the tv up (samsung un32j5003af) to my pc I used hdmi , the picture looked fantastic but changed the input name to pc as Ive always read is a good thing to do to avoid screenfit issues etc.... but now the color looks a little washed out.
How do you guys set your picture settings? just by eye?
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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #131 on: August 24, 2015, 08:27:21 pm »
mocked the tv up and got the tv mount installed.
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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #132 on: August 26, 2015, 07:35:22 pm »
Feeling defeated right now.... I screwed up my t molding slotting  :banghead:  :badmood:  :banghead:

The cheap routers collet loosened on me , then On the cab I started it while the bit was on the wood and ripped the corner out.
I been working overtime all week and was tired and didnt have patience and just wanted to get the slotting done... I should of waited.

I thought about filling it with wood filler and trying again tomorrow but figured the filler would just probably chip out as soon as I try to slot it.

So.....how bad is this? think that 8" spot on the CP will cause problems?

Whats the best adhesive to use in these areas when applying t-molding?
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« Reply #133 on: August 26, 2015, 07:38:36 pm »
So with wood putty/filler make sure you pack it in.  That will ensure there are no bubbles which will make it doesn't pop when cutting it out again.  It will be fine.

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« Reply #134 on: August 26, 2015, 07:41:57 pm »
Yeah, once the filler is in there and hardened, it should route just fine. Looking good!

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« Reply #135 on: August 26, 2015, 07:47:42 pm »
so definitely pack filler in it?

Thanks for the kind words.... this is all new to me and been a fun but long and daunting project sofar.
The past few days have been setbacks... first my tv wall mount didnt come with m8 bolts that samsung uses so had to order them online since im working 5am to 5pm right now and have no time to go to any stores....then this.

Just need to get this done and the guide boards for my tempered glass installed then I can stop covering myself in sawdust and get to painting and electrical
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« Reply #136 on: August 26, 2015, 08:34:06 pm »
Got the bad spots filled.... we will see tomorrow how it goes.
Its cheap elmer wood filler so I dont have alot of faith in it, seems like it cracked alot when I used it on my cp...but we will see.
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« Reply #137 on: August 26, 2015, 08:52:07 pm »
That stuff sucks man.

Two part stuff is probably better for an application like this.

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« Reply #138 on: August 26, 2015, 09:04:08 pm »
Actually, I used the Elmers stuff all the time and don't have any issues with it.
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« Reply #139 on: August 26, 2015, 09:09:40 pm »
Actually, I used the Elmers stuff all the time and don't have any issues with it.

I guess if it dries completely it can work.

Using it to fill corner chips is a PITA though!

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« Reply #140 on: August 26, 2015, 09:10:32 pm »
Actually, I used the Elmers stuff all the time and don't have any issues with it.

I guess if it dries completely it can work.

Using it to fill corner chips is a PITA!
I do it in layers so I never have thick chunks that I need to dry. Reduces cracking.
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« Reply #141 on: August 26, 2015, 09:38:50 pm »
I use something called M/H ready patch, and that stuff fills nice, dries nice and hard, and sands awesome.

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« Reply #142 on: August 27, 2015, 06:11:32 am »
regarding your slot cutting slip up, you could try what other suggested...bogging and re-cutting...............or just use adhesive and tape the t-mould until the glue dries. its only near the corner in 1 spot right? so mallet the rest in and just have that one little mistake glued in, youll never tell the difference.
that what I would do, because its the quickest fix solution ,but that's me..lazy, corner cutter  ;D
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« Reply #143 on: August 27, 2015, 06:36:01 am »
Ya... its just that top edge on the cab and about an 8" spot on the front of the cp.
I was going to just glue the t molding on in those areas but went ahead and filled those 2 spots with filler.

I dont think the elmer filler will hold but we will see.
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« Reply #144 on: August 27, 2015, 07:55:25 pm »
It slotted out ok.... not great but better than it was. Im just worried when I go to pound the t molding in - it will crumble.


Got the cp and cab screw holes filled in too. Still need to get my tv in there to measure for the boards that will hold the glass in.

How far from the screen should my tinted piece of glass sit?

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« Reply #145 on: August 27, 2015, 08:25:40 pm »
How far from the screen should my tinted piece of glass sit?

Theres no "rule of Thumb" here. just do what fits.

Also, pro tip, use a bit of black electrical tape to cover any little power or status LED's on the TV, but make sure you don't cover the remote IR sensor!

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« Reply #146 on: August 28, 2015, 12:37:49 pm »
Thanks...

Need to order t molding...
I planned on going with light blue t molding.... i need 22' but see they come in 20' rolls.... that gave me the idea to do the sub zero side blue and the scorpion side yellow... and the cp half and half.

I dont know if this would look bad and if I should just go all blue... any opinions?
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« Reply #147 on: August 28, 2015, 12:42:42 pm »
that gave me the idea to do the sub zero side blue and the scorpion side yellow... and the cp half and half.
I dont know if this would look bad and if I should just go all blue... any opinions?

I think this is one of those ideas that sounds good on paper but wouldn't look good in reality. So speaking of "rule of thumb"...I think there is one when it comes to making a cab that looks like it can't make up it's own mind. Sucks you would have to buy extra rolls of t-molding but it is one of the lesser expenses.
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« Reply #148 on: August 28, 2015, 12:56:16 pm »
Yeah... thats why I asked. Seems like it might look good but would be offbalance and might end up hating it.
But... Im wondering if I just went all light blue- that the blue t molding on the scorpion side would clash and look out of place.

I could go black but thats not very exciting... theres always chrome but not sure if I want this cab "blinged out" hehe......
which leads me back to the half/half idea again  :dunno

Wanted to get the molding ordered today but might hold off untill its painted and think this through.


Im still undecided on buttons and that will be a factor too.
Planned on blue/yellow paradise led's just hooked up to 12v for price / simplicity sake.
But those electric ice 2 rgb buttons look awesome.... it would add to the cost and make the build more complicated but they do look sweet..... If I went with those...then could maybe go with white t molding
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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #149 on: August 28, 2015, 01:02:28 pm »
Wanted to get the molding ordered today but might hold off untill its painted and think this through.

+1 Wait until your cab is painted. Patience is the #1 rule when building your cab. Your future self will thank you.

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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #150 on: August 29, 2015, 10:44:36 am »
Ya sounds like a plan.


Heres my next dilema...
I was going to skip on coin doors but decided I need to use them for that true arcade feel.

My vendetta 4p cab has two dual over under doors mounted side by side.
I was going to sell this cab but decided to keep it for the coin doors.

Problem is... one of the mechs isnt working and have not had time to investigate why, not a huge deal but the bigger issue is -
I need to have room in the bottom of my cab for the coin door/doors, a mid tower pc, and a subwoofer.

This has me thinking about just installing one of the vendettas dual coin doors.

How silly would it be to only have a 2 player coin door on a 4p cab?
I guess it would work ok for demonstrating the ability to eat quarters on any 2p games.Or maybe could wire up 2 players coin in buttons to each of the 2 switches on the coin door.

Would you guys try to cram all 4 in the cab, just go with a single 2p door, or just pass on the coin doors?
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« Reply #151 on: August 29, 2015, 12:05:46 pm »
Well... I got one door out. I think im just going to go with on of these dual mech doors.
I wont be using quarters much but will be cool to demonstrate it on 2 player games at least.

I bought a 1" top bearing clone router bit and planned on using that but have no idea how to go about it.
I guess I would need to build a guide fence frame.... sounds easier to just bust out the skillsaw since I can cut straight lines and could just hole saw the corner radiuses first..... we will see.

I have no idea if these mechs work. When it was in the vendetta cab I just flicked the quarter bar on the switches with my fingers.
The coin release buttons - springs get stuck back when the buttons depressed... maybee they just need cleaned/oiled?
Do they make drop in replacement switches for these? What about coin return buttons?
Would like blue or yellow.
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« Reply #152 on: August 29, 2015, 12:27:01 pm »
Ok.... I can figure out all my previous questions but really need help with this one....

I plan on getting the utrak trackball and from as far as I can tell it states it needs 2" of bottom clearance.

well because of the way I had to build my cp to get the angle I wanted... I only have about 1 3/4" clearance at the bottom of my cp.

In the second pic ...the screw is in my punched guide hole for where the center of the hole will be for the trackball.... i measured over parralel to that where a button hole is and I have 1 7/8" clearance.

I dont know how far down the back base of the utrack extends from center but wondering if I should move my trackball up on the cp an inch or two to get more clearance and then just adjust for this the best i can in photoshop for my cp overlay?

I probably will need to remove some material up to a half an inch on the bottom inside of my cp box. I wont be able to get a router in there due to the bottom board of the cp box being there. I could cut out a square area from the bottom of the cp box and cover it by screwing a piece of thin gauge aluminum sheet over the hole but that wont be pretty.

Easiest solution for me would be to sand that area out with sanding resin pads on my grinder but that might be even less pretty when looking inside my cp box.

What would you guys do?
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« Reply #153 on: August 29, 2015, 12:36:39 pm »
While it's nice to have the inside all pretty, I'm a firm believer in "Make it work".  YOU are the only person who will be inside your CP, so if it needs to look ugly to make it work...  so be it.

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« Reply #154 on: August 29, 2015, 01:06:09 pm »
Get a chisel and hammer and it should make quick work of removing the amount of material you need to and should look decent !! Figure a 3 pc. set of chisels is less than $10 at Walmart !


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« Reply #155 on: August 29, 2015, 01:23:17 pm »
Get a chisel and hammer and it should make quick work of removing the amount of material you need to and should look decent !! Figure a 3 pc. set of chisels is less than $10 at Walmart !



Hmmmm.... never tried chisels on plywood.... might actually remove layers easier.

I have some... might try it on some scrap.... thanks for the idea!
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« Reply #156 on: August 29, 2015, 11:35:53 pm »
Got another 12 hours and 12 beers in today.... sure doesnt seem like i got much done  :(

Got the coin door cut out ... man - if this coin door would of been 1/8" taller it wouldnt of fit.
Just barely squeezed it in between the bottom of the cab and middle shelf.

After that... glued/screwed/filled the front coin door panel in.

Then I test fit the 32" monitor and positioned my guide boards that will hold the tempered tinted glass.

The last major obstacle was fitting a 2" thick u-trak under a 1 1/2" cp.

I mocked up a 2" thick wooden block using ultramarks dimensions for the utrak and mounted it under the cp... I quickly realized I would have to move it up a bit if I ever planned on fitting the u-trak under the cp.
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I moved the trackball hole up 1" and drilled a pilot hole, I then screwed the utrak mockup under the cp and outlined the utrak base on the bottom of the cp box with a pencil threw the button holes.

After I had the U-trak base outlined and knew where to remove material... It took about 3 hours of chiseling... then busted out the grinder,dremel,drill with sanding flapwheel. Took forever ...but I have clearance now for the trackball. Looks a little shoddy but I think will be decent once painted.

The last thing needed done was to hole saw the hole for the trackball. The dang arbor that I got is too small and will have to pick up a bigger one tomorrow so i can drill out the hole ... then I will FINALLY be ready for sanding...painting.
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« Reply #157 on: August 30, 2015, 08:26:38 am »
Anyone know of blue or yellow coin reject buttons for wells gardner/ coin control buttons?

All I can find are red :(

If reds all thats available is there any methods anyone has found to paint them or use colored led's to change the color?
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« Reply #158 on: September 05, 2015, 09:18:30 pm »
Found yellow lime reject buttons!!!  :applaud:
check out this thread if anyone is interested http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=147086.new;topicseen#new
(still wont know 100% that they will work untill they arrive)

Then ordered some yellow led's for the coin rejects....and some color changing led's to play with on them....

Got 5 locks in the mail, 2 for the coin doors , 1 for the keyboard/mouse door, and one to lock my control panel down (wont be able to stick hand up from below due to keyboard slide out tray)




Was at lowes today for a new door...
While there I decided to get some 2.5" castors to replace the 2"ers.

My arbor for the 83mm hole saw came in the mail today and got my cp trackball hole drilled out.

Then spent about 6 hours sanding the cab and parts to get ready for paint.
Swept up and took everything outside to blow off with the air compressor.

8 cans of painters touch semi-gloss got a single coat on almost everything.... ran out halfway on the last panel (rear panel) also... my CP isnt painted yet untill I decide on if im running non led sanwa jlf's or paradise arcade led joysticks (anyone know if the jlf and paradise led sticks have the same bolt mounting pattern?)  :dunno

I sanded as much as I could.... after one coat of semi gloss rustolieum painters touch is looks very blotchy.  :dunno



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Please help.....  :cry:  :dunno

I have satin clear coat.... but should my second coat of black be semi gloss...or should I swap over to flat????

Should I fine sand between black coats or just wait and fine sand before clear coating?

How smooth does the sides need to be for vinyl art to stick well? I was going to just leave a single coat on sides since artwork will cover them but after the first coat it still feels a little rough.
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« Reply #159 on: September 05, 2015, 11:21:14 pm »
Base coat, sand, base coat, sand, main coat, sand, main coat, sand, main coat, varnish, varnish

That's my process, did it with rattle cans. Used grey base coat, matte black for the main coat, and a satin varnish for the finish. Sanding started as a heavy grit at first and getting finer each step after, going slow after the paint cured and using tack cloths to wipe the sanding dust after. Didn't sand the last coat, added two even coats of varnish at the end.  All told a couple dozen cans, (32 I think... Don't remember but it's in my thread). All said and done, I estimated my paint job coat well over $400CDN in supplies, plus time, not sure if that counts my paint booth.   I wanted the best finish I could. It was my first attempt at doing this, like ever, but I took the time and money to research and do it to my standards.

You could go cheap and roll on. I'm very happy with my finish. Wouldn't change a thing.

Your art will stick better the more glossy it is, but you shouldn't have issues of you just get a decently smooth and clean surface.

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« Reply #160 on: September 05, 2015, 11:23:18 pm »
Oh, and I put lighter numbers of coats on the surfaces that ended up getting covered by art.

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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #161 on: September 06, 2015, 07:54:34 am »
Thanks for breaking down your paint details chance.... your paint job did come out sweet!

I skipped primer or basecoat because the paint is paint+primer. I will have to get 2 more coats on there from the looks of it then will do 2 coats varnish.
 I have a 3 day weeked so hopefully will have it painted before I have to go back to work.
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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #162 on: September 08, 2015, 08:04:45 pm »
DISASTER !!!
 :badmood: :badmood: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

After working on this almost everyday for a couple months now....Im so pissed right now...words cant describe.
Got off work.... came home and sanded...applied 3rd coat of black to everything.

Then I began clearcoating everything and the nightmare began.

All the removeable panels turned out great.

On the cab the overspray began balling up in little beads under where I hadnt painted yet.
The satin clearcoat ended up a horrible looking milky white blotchy mess.

I thought for sure I could apply the clearcoat on the just painted black sections as the can says apply within an hour or after 48 hours.

Well evidentally I effed up big time.

All that work and money on this thing and now it looks like total garbage.
The sides and back panels that I didnt today put a 3rd coat on turned out great. But all the areas I gave a third coat of black look like trash.

What the hell can I do now? So pissed


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« Reply #163 on: September 08, 2015, 08:10:26 pm »
Meh, don't panic.  At least it wasn't $300 custom printed vinyl.  I'd let it dry for a couple days and just hit it with a coarse sander and rip it down.  Not even all the way to the wood, just a layer or two of what is on there.  All that is screwed up is the paint, nothing structural. 

Take a breath, have a beer, let it sit a couple days and don't panic.

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« Reply #164 on: September 08, 2015, 08:34:01 pm »
Aren't you doing full side art? Why are you clear-coating it?
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« Reply #165 on: September 08, 2015, 08:38:45 pm »
I just wanted all the exposed parts clear coated... ended up having enough clear to do the sides too. I started with sides and they turned out good.
Its the front of the cab that the clear overspray was drying and building up as I was painting


The sides,all rear panels,top, cp, keyboard door all look good....
Just the front did this.... really pissed.... I spent the most time and care on the front,sanding and extra coats....then this.

Can I just let it dry 48 hrs.... sand smooth, paint black again....wait 48 and re clear?


I thought it did this because the front i added a 3rd coat of black about 30min before the clear but in the 4th pic... you can see the worst area is the middle shelf and it was painted over a week ago. Its like when I changed cans this happened.... the clear looked white....bad gummy overspray... maybe a bad mixture in that can...I should of tossed it. Arggggg  :banghead:
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« Reply #166 on: September 08, 2015, 08:48:05 pm »
Yep, let it dry, cure, sand it, then hit it again. You'll be ok. I think you might have put that clear coat on too thick. A few light even coats from the proper distance written on the label will do.

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« Reply #167 on: September 08, 2015, 08:51:23 pm »
Was putting on light coats.... not a run on the cab, had to of been a bad can or chemical reaction from the black coat before it just being laid.... I dont know but wasnt a heavy coat.

So do you guys think i should just lay black back over this after waiting a couple days and a little sanding?
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« Reply #168 on: September 08, 2015, 09:20:36 pm »
I just looked at it again and its about 80% clear now.
Strange...
Hopefully it clears up a little more and I could live with it.

Theres still a heavy dust layer of overspray in areas.... whats the best way to get rid of it? 1000 grit.....2000 grit sanding?
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« Reply #169 on: September 08, 2015, 09:22:35 pm »
...whats the best way to get rid of it? 1000 grit.....2000 grit sanding?

I recommend a good screaming at.  Maybe a harsh glare or two.


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« Reply #170 on: September 08, 2015, 09:51:19 pm »
...whats the best way to get rid of it? 1000 grit.....2000 grit sanding?

I recommend a good screaming at.  Maybe a harsh glare or two.



What about flat out cussing the ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- out of it.... oh.... tried that... didnt work


I read humidity causes clearcoat to do this.... makes sense as it was raining out and humid as hell.
Also read it may clear up as it cures..... guess I just have to forget about it for a couple days and see.

Just needed to vent out. For some odd reason the ol lady dont seem to care about this little project.  :dunno
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« Reply #171 on: September 08, 2015, 09:56:31 pm »
Just needed to vent out. For some odd reason the ol lady dont seem to care about this little project.  :dunno
I fully understand the need to vent.  Frustration is the mind killer.  As far as the wife goes...  good luck.

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« Reply #172 on: September 10, 2015, 07:00:11 pm »
Spent 3 hours sanding the clearcoat off the front, 2 coats of flat black....looking good.
Light coat of clear...looks great, second coat looks great.... run out of clear in the can, decide to use a half full can from before..... bam.....milky foggy damn mess. I get pissed and throw the can down on the cab so ill have to start all over again.

Flat black with satin clear looks great when the moons aligned right and the suns in the right elevation and earths aligned right with the luck spirit but damn.... i have clearcoat overspray all over the inside of the cab... it doesnt just wipe off.
My sides look good but feel the texture of 400 grit sandpaper so not sure if vinyl will stick.

I feel like tapping out on this project while I still have my sanity but have too much time and money iin it to give up.
I just wish I would of went with a damn roll on paint job or stuck with semi gloss and not used the clearcoat.

Again it looks fantastic when everything goes right but thats only about half the time with me
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« Reply #173 on: September 10, 2015, 07:18:26 pm »
Yeah, I've gotten better at spray painting because of this hobby, but there's no way I'm stupid enough to spray paint a whole cab. If you use quality paint and equality roller, there's no reason why you can't get a great finish.
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« Reply #174 on: September 10, 2015, 07:20:06 pm »
Oh, please note, I'm not calling you stupid. There's just no way I would spray paint a whole cabinet.
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« Reply #175 on: September 10, 2015, 07:34:40 pm »
Oh, please note, I'm not calling you stupid. There's just no way I would spray paint a whole cabinet.
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« Reply #176 on: September 10, 2015, 07:35:26 pm »
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« Reply #177 on: September 11, 2015, 01:31:45 am »
I had the same problem as you, my polyurethane clear coat went milky and in some spots bubbled up like it was have some kind of chemical reaction, so I def feel your frustration man.

but I just used paint stripper and started again ,this time I used high gloss enamel spray cans and the finish was very professional and shiny.
but you don't need clear coat where your artwork is going.
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« Reply #178 on: September 11, 2015, 06:48:12 am »
Whats even worse is - this morning .... the hazy section that I finished with the other can is now chrystal clear ....

So what would of been perfect I now have to redo because I flipped out and slammed the can down on the paint job  ;D

Sofar it seems like no 2 cans of the clear initialy lays down the same... i will have to sand the crap out of the front this weekend and when its time to clear....make sure I have enough in one can.

Still not sure what to do about the inside of the cab where the overspray collects and looks frosted now
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« Reply #179 on: September 11, 2015, 09:55:47 pm »
Well..... a few more hours of heavy sanding and a few coats of flat black later and the lower front cab is looking great.
I kind of wish I would of left the clearcoat out completely. Its hit or miss for me. On some panels it looks great on others you can see a difference in the finish between cans and its overall not uniform.

I kind of feel forced to clear it though since the rest of the cab is.
In hindsight I would of stuck with semi gloss only and just put enough coats/sanding between untill grains in the wood didnt show through (probably 3-4 coats)

This time im letting the black sit 48 hrs before clear coat.... i hope this helps.. whatever the result ends to be is what I am sticking with....I just refuse to sand anymore lol.

Its humid in the midwest this time of year....I wonder if thats the issue?
2-3 light coats is whats suggested on the can for the clear.... im going as thin as possible without leaving blotchy spots that didnt get hit with clear.... the flat black lays down great....that clear is just hell though.


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« Reply #180 on: September 11, 2015, 10:33:41 pm »
Close but no cigar.  Bummer.
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« Reply #181 on: September 11, 2015, 10:37:03 pm »
Close but no cigar.  Bummer.

Yeah.... I wonder how they used inserts on these buttons  :dunno
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« Reply #182 on: September 11, 2015, 10:38:10 pm »
Close but no cigar.  Bummer.

Yeah.... I wonder how they used inserts on these buttons  :dunno
I bet they used stickers OVER the buttons. I've seen the stickers somewhere.
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« Reply #183 on: September 11, 2015, 10:40:35 pm »
Ya i was just thinking... maybe i could have some printed with adhesive backing and laminated.
If anyone thinks of a source for them ... i would appreciate!
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« Reply #184 on: September 11, 2015, 11:02:12 pm »
Ya i was just thinking... maybe i could have some printed with adhesive backing and laminated.
If anyone thinks of a source for them ... i would appreciate!

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« Reply #185 on: September 11, 2015, 11:05:48 pm »
Sweet....thanks
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« Reply #186 on: September 11, 2015, 11:08:28 pm »
Ya i was just thinking... maybe i could have some printed with adhesive backing and laminated.
If anyone thinks of a source for them ... i would appreciate!

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I always have problems navigating his site from my phone.
Do you know the category or have direct link?

Thanks again
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« Reply #187 on: September 11, 2015, 11:10:55 pm »
Sweet....thanks

Find any other tidbits and odds and ends on Bob's site before you order. I ALWAYS get a pack of black 1/2 inch pan screws. They are the best for those things you need to install into your cab. I try to order about $20 worth of stuff at a time.

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« Reply #188 on: September 12, 2015, 08:25:24 pm »
Im probably just going to design my own to fit the inside.

I striped my coin control door down about a week ago, wire wheeled it and hit it with rustoleum hammered black.
Like many report.... its more gray than black so last night I went over with a semi gloss. Looks good but if I could do it over I just would of painted it flat black and then spattered over it with semi gloss using the barely depressed paint can nozel method.

Oh well.... better than it was.

Took the gutted coin mechs and hardware and gave everything a good scrubbing.
Figured out why one of my mechs would get stuck for a second when eject lever was depressed....
Had to set adjustment screw to bring the magnet door part of the mech out slightly more to allow the eject arm to slide by freely.

Slight lube of the eject mechanism with super lube and they are now functioning great.

The yellow coin reject buttons I found from germany work great!
Mechs are reasembled and function without a hitch.

Good news.... the 1$ rgb blinker leds I ordered from china on ebay came in.... i didnt even know it but they are direct replacements for the original bulb sockets.

The different colors look great through the yellow plastic and not filtered out much at all!

I got another china gadget that will hopefully set my cab off and seperate it from others as I have not seen it done yet but will wait untill Its done.

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« Reply #189 on: September 13, 2015, 02:51:28 pm »
Well.... im going to have to sand my entire cab back down and start over with the paint.  :angry:

Third time repainting the front of the cab.
This time the clearcoat orange peeled like crazy.

I painted it flat black fri so it had 2 days to cure. I will not use this clearcoat again...ever.

Chance.... i commend you on getting this stuff to look as good as it does on your cab, it just wont cooperate with me.
 :banghead:

Some panels looked great with the clear satin but the cab itself is a mess.... hazyness,orange peel, and frosted overspray areas.

The painters touch flat black looked good on its own.... wish I would of opted out on the clear....

Oh well, maybe Ill just smooth the clear out with 320 grit and have a thick base for the new paint.
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Couple of questions.....  :dunno

 do you think it will be ok to repaint over the clear if I smooth it out with a light sanding?

And... If I just leave my paint un clear coated will the finish still hold up well?

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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #190 on: September 13, 2015, 03:00:33 pm »
Just hit it with 80 grit on a random orbital sander and start over.
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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #191 on: September 13, 2015, 03:04:28 pm »
What about flat paint? Will it be ok on its own or should it be clear coated?

Im def not using clearcoat this time around.

Just not sure if flat on its own will be fine or if I should use gloss or semi gloss for a harder finish??
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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #192 on: September 13, 2015, 03:06:59 pm »
I always use black satin enamel and it looks fine when dried. No clearcoat needed.
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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #193 on: September 13, 2015, 03:10:04 pm »
I always use black satin enamel and it looks fine when dried. No clearcoat needed.

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Rustoleum Satin Black Enamel and no clear coat is needed. With a nice smooth primer underneath, I only needed 2 coats of the satin black. Just did this for my mini Qbert and I'm very happy.

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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #194 on: September 13, 2015, 03:11:04 pm »
Ok.... yeah flat black looked great before clearcoat and was pretty smooth too.

That damn rustoleum clear comes out thicker than snot.... maybe should of went with krylon.

Had great results with the rustoleum painters touch flat black on its own so probably will just go with it again.

Could probably be cheaper if I rolled on some paint but I dont want anymore surprises.

30-some cans of paint down the drain  :badmood:
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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #195 on: September 13, 2015, 03:12:02 pm »
I always use black satin enamel and it looks fine when dried. No clearcoat needed.

+1

Rustoleum Satin Black Enamel and no clear coat is needed. With a nice smooth primer underneath, I only needed 2 coats of the satin black. Just did this for my mini Qbert and I'm very happy.

Exactly. We're not restoring the Sistine Chapel here. Keep it simple.

I forgot you sprayed it on as well. I buy Wooster rollers and quality paint and don't have any issues.
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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #196 on: September 13, 2015, 03:15:46 pm »
I always use black satin enamel and it looks fine when dried. No clearcoat needed.

+1

Rustoleum Satin Black Enamel and no clear coat is needed. With a nice smooth primer underneath, I only needed 2 coats of the satin black. Just did this for my mini Qbert and I'm very happy.

Exactly. We're not restoring the Sistine Chapel here. Keep it simple.

I forgot you sprayed it on as well. I buy Wooster rollers and quality paint and don't have any issues.

Oh yea...spraying is just tricky as hell. I was only spraying a very small cab so I could do all the surfaces quickly without worrying about over spray. Rolling it is going to obviously avoid all this.

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« Reply #197 on: September 13, 2015, 03:19:14 pm »
I only spray metal parts. I stick with the roller on a anything else.
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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #198 on: September 13, 2015, 03:44:35 pm »
I might just try rolling it this time. Been coughing up black chunks for weeks and dont think I could handle anymore of it lol.

What paint should I go with to give the same appearance as the rattlecan rustoleum painters touch satin flat black I was using?

And I will be going over all the panels and inside of the cab again, will a gallon be enough?
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« Reply #199 on: September 13, 2015, 03:50:17 pm »
I might just try rolling it this time. Been coughing up black chunks for weeks and dont think I could handle anymore of it lol.

What paint should I go with to give the same appearance as the rattlecan rustoleum painters touch satin flat black I was using?

And I will be going over all the panels and inside of the cab again, will a gallon be enough?

I use this: http://www.lowes.com/pd_46305-4-410.0065049.005_0__
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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #200 on: September 14, 2015, 03:29:35 pm »
I was pretty happy with my paint job using this on the irregular surfaces that are hard to hit with a roller:
http://www.lowes.com/ProductDisplay?productId=3878542

And this everywhere else (same stuff in a can):
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Rust-Oleum-Stops-Rust-1-qt-Satin-Black-Protective-Enamel-Paint-7777502/100184504

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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #201 on: September 14, 2015, 03:34:59 pm »
Every time I buy this paint I have to stare at the can for like 5 seconds to make sure I'm buying the black color. (I know..."just look at the cap dummy!")

...but the brown logo and park bench on the front always throws me off for a moment.  :)

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« Reply #202 on: September 14, 2015, 03:46:47 pm »
Every time I buy this paint I have to stare at the can for like 5 seconds to make sure I'm buying the black color. (I know..."just look at the cap dummy!")

...but the brown logo and park bench on the front always throws me off for a moment.  :)



Same.  To me, even the cap looks brown next to all those other cues.

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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #203 on: September 14, 2015, 04:53:07 pm »
Every time I buy this paint I have to stare at the can for like 5 seconds to make sure I'm buying the black color. (I know..."just look at the cap dummy!")

...but the brown logo and park bench on the front always throws me off for a moment.  :)

Same here man.  They obviously didn't do any market testing on that can design.

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« Reply #204 on: September 14, 2015, 05:27:38 pm »
I seriously hate that too.  Its bad enough theres a million similar cans on the shelf. i wonder how many people buy it thinking its brown?

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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #205 on: September 17, 2015, 06:56:33 am »
Chance ...you was right man  ;D

I was too heavy fingered on the clear coats.

I tried for a 4th time  .... sanded front down to paint, laid 2 more coats of flat then this time.... i laid the clear right after the flat black... and just put 2 light spritzing coats of clear and turned out good.

The lights were making it look like i wasnt covering good but in reality was putting it on too heavy, i stood the cab upright this time so the lighting didnt trick me.

Still have overspray inside to clean up but time to order artwork.
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« Reply #206 on: September 17, 2015, 10:38:37 am »
Glad to hear it went better this time!  Good job on the perseverance.

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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #207 on: September 17, 2015, 12:36:24 pm »
Do you guys think blue led strip lighting will look ok behind the marquee or should I order white (already have blue)


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« Reply #208 on: September 17, 2015, 12:37:50 pm »
Do you guys think blue led strip lighting will look ok behind the marquee or should I order white (already have blue)

Order white if you have other colors in the artwork.
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« Reply #209 on: September 17, 2015, 12:40:20 pm »
Do you guys think blue led strip lighting will look ok behind the marquee or should I order white (already have blue)

I'd be more concerned about the LED strip putting out enough light. (unless you snake it back and forth along rows)

Why not a fluorescent tube?
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« Reply #210 on: September 17, 2015, 12:41:17 pm »
Do you guys think blue led strip lighting will look ok behind the marquee or should I order white (already have blue)

Order white if you have other colors in the artwork.

Pic of my marquee up above (only pic i have of it on my phone and at work)

Ya I figured the blue part would look good but the red/yellow parts might look violet-ish with blue leds.

Hate to order another 15ft just for a 30" strip but its cheap so meh
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« Reply #211 on: September 17, 2015, 12:45:00 pm »
Do you guys think blue led strip lighting will look ok behind the marquee or should I order white (already have blue)

I'd be more concerned that LED strip putting out enough light. (unless you snake it back and forth along rows)

Why not a fluorescent tube?

The led strips I ordered are the 5360's or whatever ones above the 5050's...they are pretty bright and figured a single horizontal strip would work since the marquee is being printed on a translucent material.

Nothing against a fluoro just figured id go with leds since they are cheap / low heat / no tube replacement/ low profile.
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« Reply #212 on: September 17, 2015, 08:11:42 pm »
good to hear the respray worked out.  :cheers:

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« Reply #213 on: September 18, 2015, 10:29:44 pm »
good to hear the respray worked out.  :cheers:
It doesnt look as good as the flynn but im happy with it.... Finally feel like Im making some progress now that im past the build phase and the paint nightmare.  :cheers:

Took the cab and wheeled it outside and blew it off while I rubbed it with a rag.... luckily all the overspray was just dried dust sitting on top of the finish as it all came off  :applaud:

I dont think I will win any awards for the paint job but im happy with it.

Installed the coin door, ordered my u-track, worked alot of hours this week so should be able to order my artwork and buttons/sticks next week.
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Re: First build/ 32" lcd slimcab 4 player..... lots of questions
« Reply #214 on: September 23, 2015, 12:09:08 pm »
Tried to email my artwork psd files to the guys who will print my vinyl.... Im wanting to leave them as psd files so he can check them over and adjust colors or anything needed but the side files are 600mb each.

Pretty sure file upload sites only offer up to 500mb files free  :dunno

We both use gmail so I uploaded the files to google drive and attached them in an email but he is not getting the attachments.
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Whats the easiest free way to get the files to him?

Can I zip psd files?
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« Reply #215 on: September 23, 2015, 12:14:33 pm »
Whats the easiest free way to get the files to him?

Dropbox
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« Reply #216 on: September 23, 2015, 12:20:45 pm »
Whats the easiest free way to get the files to him?

Dropbox
Will it handle over 500mb files free?
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