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Karaoke Help
« on: December 04, 2014, 07:40:48 pm »
Wife and I bought my niece a Karaoke machine for X-Mass.
I've never had one, or used one.
All be it she is 2 and can't read I'd still like to provide them with some Karaoke CD's.

Can anyone provide me with tips and tricks, stuff I should know about Karaoke CD's.

And perhaps a suggestion for burning software ?

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Re: Karaoke Help
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2014, 07:51:08 pm »
Didn't I see this thread once already?  :dizzy:

Look for Power CDG Burner. It lets you make Karaoke discs if you have the files.
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Re: Karaoke Help
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2014, 07:56:32 pm »
I did post it in another thread. But thought it would perhaps fit better here.

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Re: Karaoke Help
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2014, 05:31:31 am »
Not sure how much you're looking to know, but here's the basics on what karaoke (CD+G) discs are and how you might go about making them:

http://www.usenet-replayer.com/faq/alt.binaries.sounds.karaoke.html

You can rip and reconstruct/burn a karaoke track much like you can a plain audio track. You just need software like Power CDG burner that knows how to read and write the extra subcode bytes that hold the graphic data.

Of course, since karaoke CDs can be ripped, you can find binary representations of the discs online in many of the same places you'd find regular music CDs.

Attached is a sample of the kind of files you'll find. It's a CDG and an MP3 in a zip, called an MP3+G zip file. Power CDG burner (or other free methods) should be able to put that on a disc for you.

Edit - attachment removed, was reported as copyrighted. Please clarify the status of the attachment before re-uploading

Copyright Clarification:
The mp3 file in the zip was rendered from a midi file, which came from http://www.fakemusicgenerator.com, ostensibly composed by a program called cgmusic.  FakeMusicGenerator suggests acknowledging cgmusic, which I did on the title screen of the CDG. I double-checked the mp3 to ensure that it wasn't recognized by SoundHound or Google's ContentID (over the last couple hours, anyway). Of course, none of that is fool-proof, and if someone believes this to be some other copyrighted song, please let us know so it can be removed again. I hope nobody is claiming copyright ownership of the CDG/lyrics. I'd have a bone to pick with them.
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Re: Karaoke Help
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2014, 10:44:17 pm »
Thank you for the info.
Looks like I have more homework to do !

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Re: Karaoke Help
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2014, 09:42:14 pm »
I'm doing a lil home work here.
I'm new to Karaoke.
I'd like to include some CD's for my niece. (This is her X-Mass gift)
I'll be getting her the Frozen soundtrack and a top 40 CD.
Whatever else I can think of.

Are CD+G wav audio files + the graphics file, or MP3 + the graphics ?
Or either ?

I looked @ the instruction manual for the product, but could not tell if this thing would play an MP3 CD (which I can obviously pack full of tracks) or if I should just convert everything to WAV.

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Re: Karaoke Help
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2014, 01:06:17 am »
I'm doing a lil home work here.
I'm new to Karaoke.
I'd like to include some CD's for my niece. (This is her X-Mass gift)
I'll be getting her the Frozen soundtrack and a top 40 CD.
Whatever else I can think of.

Are CD+G wav audio files + the graphics file, or MP3 + the graphics ?
Or either ?

I looked @ the instruction manual for the product, but could not tell if this thing would play an MP3 CD (which I can obviously pack full of tracks) or if I should just convert everything to WAV.

Here you go, Bro:
http://www.amazon.com/Disneys-Karaoke-Series-Frozen-Disney/dp/B00IKM5N02
http://www.amazon.com/Party-Tyme-Karaoke-Super-Hits/dp/B00IS6EFEK/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1418623553&sr=1-1&keywords=Top+40+Karaoke
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Re: Karaoke Help
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2014, 06:15:55 pm »
Are CD+G wav audio files + the graphics file, or MP3 + the graphics ?
Or either ?

CD+G discs don't have files on them. They're tracks, just like regular CDs. Actually, it's best if you think of CD+G this way: Regular audio discs are CD+G discs where the graphic data happens to be blank, and regular audio CD players are CD players which ignore the graphic data at the end of each frame, regardless of whether it's blank or not.

You can play a CD+G disc in a regular player, and you can play a regular audio CD in a CD+G karaoke machine. In either case, you'll hear the audio, but you won't see any picture.

If you want to see words on the screen, you have to use discs where the graphic data was included as part of the track. The links that Yotsuya provided are to discs of that type, as are the discs that Power CDG Burner creates  - if you give it the graphic data. That's an important distinction. You can't buy and download the MP3 version of the Frozen karaoke disc and expect that Power CDG Burner can somehow create the CDG data on its own. You can create your own CDG graphics, using PowerKaraoke's CDG Creator (or other similar programs - or graph paper and a hex editor), but I doubt you want to spend $99 and many hours of work when someone else has done it for you for $8.

Regarding MP3 discs, there are some professional karaoke CD players on the market which, in addition to playing CD+G, are designed to play CDG graphic data along with matching mp3 files. It's unlikely that you've purchased one of those players, as the instructions and advertising would tout the feature as a major selling point.

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Re: Karaoke Help
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2014, 07:14:42 pm »
Thanks guys.
My niece is 2.5 years old.
So she is not reading and certainly would not be reading lyrics of the screen.
But I know as "the computer guy" in my family I'll be the "go to" person for these discs.
So a lil info would be good, so I thank you for the links.

For now I'll just get her some regular CD's.