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dkersten:
The fire wouldn't work simply because they don't have enough fuel.. they would need to dump a few hundred tons of napalm in there to do that, and I'm pretty sure they don't have that.

What gets me though is how there are tons of vehicles all over. Just get a few more trucks and go block the path. Then in the months you will have while that holds you can just come in and dig a trench, sealing them off forever. Done.

I liked Fear because it isn't about what's happening, it's about how people reacted to it happening. People love apocalyptic stories, not because they love how things go to hell, but rather how people overcome it. If you were in that situation and didn't know anything more than you KNOW today (ie you KNOW that zombies don't exist and that the world isn't going to go apocalypse tomorrow, so whatever actions you take you will likely end up in front of a judge for in the near future), then how would you react. I find it fascinating to see other people's take on how things would go down. Fear is about the people's reaction to the situation. TWD is about surviving and overcoming.

I didn't watch TWD for the first two seasons. I don't like zombies. I think they are dumb. I don't like the gruesome deaths. I like action, just not explicit maiming of human bodies. So I didn't watch because I thought it was about zombies. Then people were telling me it was more about the human condition - how do people react to the situation. How do they survive and what does it cost them? What do they become? How does the world really change for them? I don't mean in the obvious ways, but how do they live? I mean, face it, someone close to you gets seriously sick and your world stops. You break up or get divorced and your world is upside down. You get sick or injured and your world takes on a whole different meaning. Now imagine all that times a million. Not only are things not OKAY now, they never will be... ever... You will never sleep again without the fear that you could wake up being eaten. You will never be able to have a child without knowing the chances of that child seeing it's first birthday are slim to none. How does that affect a person? THAT is why I watch the show.

Then again, I'm a Post Apocalyptic Fiction author, so I guess you could say I spend a lot of time thinking about this kind of stuff.

DaOld Man:
Good episode tonight.
I was worried that this episode was going to go the same route as the guvnors spotlight episode, but it was pretty good.
This shows how morgan morphed from the crazy guy to the good guy.

Howard_Casto:
It was and it wasn't. It was completely cliché and totally predictable, right up to the ending. I did think the acting was very good. Unfortunately that doesn't fix a bad script.

All the Ninja Turtle references sure were strange, until I realized Donatello did the choreography. What was odd though was the script writer emailing Hardwick on talking dead and basically refuting making any deliberate message, which makes him a liar or the dumbest, most culturally ignorant writer on the planet. My bet is on the latter... the production crew probably threw all the references in and he was too dumb to catch them.

Still....... two of my favorite actors chewing up the scenery for an hour and a half... not to shabby.

Now for the love of cliffhangers can we get back to Glenn?

harveybirdman:
The episode was ok, but it does bother me when they start anointing it as "genius" on the talking dead.

It's an interesting back story but it's placement was gimmicky. The Glenn thing still feels like a cheap exploitation of the audience.

Plus the philosophy that Morgan seems to be aspiring too simply does not work in tribal society, and while it touches on the central theme of the show, Humanity vs Survival, it is as starkly out of balance as the philosophy of the wolves and it is hard for me to accept justification for either. I sort of understand the conclusions the Termites came to but are we to believe some trauma was visited upon the wolves? They make no sense to me.

I hate seeing characters be so stupid.

Howard_Casto:
Hardwick thinks Doctor Who has good writing, so compared to that yeah TWD probably does seem genius.

Well it contradicts itself as well. You've got Eastman preaching that out of 800+ cases he only met one man that was truly evil, and yet... the wolves kind of spit in the face of that theory don't they? Then he's preaching all this non-violence and yet... he watched a man (an admittedly evil man) starve for 47 days. I think if he would have captured the guy but eventually let him go I would have bought it, but watching someone slowly starve to death and then go "ok no more killing" seems like nothing more than lip service.

I don't disagree with the fact that the philosophy of non-violence doesn't work in tribal society, but I think that's kind of the point... if you ever want to elevate your community out of a tribal society then you need to institute such philosophies, regardless of the consequences. Some things are more important than survival... like living a proper life.

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