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Need help naming 2 parts of Arcade PCB board
« on: October 04, 2014, 09:24:12 am »
Hi I have a commando board that has stopped working from looking over the board I noticed 2 parts were damaged.
Though I do not know what they're called to find replacements have circled them in the photo below.

If anyone could ID them for me that would be great Thanks.


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Re: Need help naming 2 parts of Arcade PCB board
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2014, 12:17:35 pm »
Do you have a manual?   Sometimes they have schematics.

Check out this page.
« Last Edit: October 04, 2014, 12:20:48 pm by Generic Eric »

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Re: Need help naming 2 parts of Arcade PCB board
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2014, 12:31:49 pm »
those are capacitors.  Whats the writing on them say?

The orange one kinda looks like 27pF but Im not going to guess numbers for you.
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Re: Need help naming 2 parts of Arcade PCB board
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2014, 02:59:00 pm »
     You are sure its the board?, You did check the power supply and the harness pins first right?

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Re: Need help naming 2 parts of Arcade PCB board
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2014, 08:59:53 pm »
Do you have a manual?   Sometimes they have schematics.

Check out this page.
Yup got manual could only find parts of the power supply on it.  Thanks.

those are capacitors.  Whats the writing on them say?

The orange one kinda looks like 27pF but Im not going to guess numbers for you.

I just went and had a look the Orange one has "104" on it if that helps?
And Red ones have "10 10+".

     You are sure its the board?, You did check the power supply and the harness pins first right?

Tested power supply everything looks good there and yup checked harness pins. Have attached photos of the cracked parts on the board. Thanks







« Last Edit: October 05, 2014, 05:48:56 am by madfrog2000 »

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Re: Need help naming 2 parts of Arcade PCB board
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2014, 09:07:57 pm »
The orange ones look like filter caps for the IC's, so if one is bad it shouldn't have that much effect.  The red ones, no idea.

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Re: Need help naming 2 parts of Arcade PCB board
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2014, 05:49:42 am »
The orange ones look like filter caps for the IC's, so if one is bad it shouldn't have that much effect.  The red ones, no idea.

Thanks guessing the red one is causing the problem then.

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Re: Need help naming 2 parts of Arcade PCB board
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2014, 07:49:58 am »
Usually if the board ID number starts with C (eg. c104)--its a capacitor.  If it starts with R its a resistor.  To read capacitors follow this guide

http://www.wikihow.com/Read-a-Capacitor

Also, there are many different kinds of caps --electrolytic, ceramic disk (the orange ones) film etc.  And the polarization is very important (unless its not marked then its a non-polarized version)

to read resistors you need to read the color bands.

Also, no offense but if you are unsure what the parts even are, troubleshooting things at the board level may not be a reasonable place to start (its typically an "expert" level of arcade repair)  I say its good to learn but you may become frustrated very quickly...

« Last Edit: October 05, 2014, 07:54:26 am by menace »
its better to not post and be thought a fool, then to whip out your keyboard and remove all doubt...

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Re: Need help naming 2 parts of Arcade PCB board
« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2014, 07:53:58 am »
Usually if the board ID number starts with C (eg. c104)--its a capacitor.  If it starts with R its a resistor.  To read capacitors follow this guide

http://www.wikihow.com/Read-a-Capacitor

to read resistors you need to read the color bands.

Thanks! exactly what I was looking for.

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Re: Need help naming 2 parts of Arcade PCB board
« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2014, 10:42:42 am »
The orange one is a .1uF. They're always across the 5 volt lines for ICs.

The red one may be a tantalum capacitor.
Here's info on figuring out its code
http://www.marvac.com/fun/tantalum_capacitor_codes.aspx

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Re: Need help naming 2 parts of Arcade PCB board
« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2014, 07:10:14 pm »
The orange one is a .1uF. They're always across the 5 volt lines for ICs.

The red one may be a tantalum capacitor.
Here's info on figuring out its code
http://www.marvac.com/fun/tantalum_capacitor_codes.aspx

Ah Thanks yeah Red one looks like those Tantalum capacitor.

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Re: Need help naming 2 parts of Arcade PCB board
« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2014, 07:19:53 pm »
that is for the simple reason they are
note the + sign....
just remove the broken 1's
but these are not your problem..u have a logic problem...
start with the ram..if u can ? remove 1 at a time,clean pin's >carefuly like<
replace to the exact spot and way they were..reason is the board is 20 odd year's old
it need's a tune up

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Re: Need help naming 2 parts of Arcade PCB board
« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2014, 07:24:48 pm »
that is for the simple reason they are
note the + sign....
just remove the broken 1's
but these are not your problem..u have a logic problem...
start with the ram..if u can ? remove 1 at a time,clean pin's >carefuly like<
replace to the exact spot and way they were..reason is the board is 20 odd year's old
it need's a tune up

ed

Will do that this weekend Thanks. 

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Re: Need help naming 2 parts of Arcade PCB board
« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2014, 07:34:51 pm »
go slow and carefull
aslo u might need to chk the video ram's..pray these are not south..
all but the video ram's i have..
and the 1's on flea-bay are just about as good as not

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Re: Need help naming 2 parts of Arcade PCB board
« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2014, 09:37:07 pm »
I agree with ed but just for the record, what exactly is the board doing, not booting

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Re: Need help naming 2 parts of Arcade PCB board
« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2014, 11:46:41 pm »
I agree with ed but just for the record, what exactly is the board doing, not booting

Thanks yeah, Power is going to the board but no sounds/display. Though speaker does have power.