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sgtsocko:
Hey guys,

Another owner of a working usb2gun setup here!

I was coming to make a post about my findings with the board but I noticed this topic so I'll just add some info here for anyone looking. I purchased the board and two Happ guns in March and was meaning to come and make a post about them but was just having too much damn fun!   :D

First off, I'm currently running a dual boot of America's army and XP (for MAME), running everything at 640x480 60hz off of a temporary IBM e74 monitor.

The guns themselves are super accurate in the games I've tried in MAME (Area 51, Lethal enforcers 1&2, Point Blank 1&2, etc). I had some issues getting off-screen reload to work (in MAME) but since shooting off-screen triggers button 2 in Windows I just used XPadder to map that to a combination of up+ another button (mapped to trigger) on the keyboard and set the digital cursor speed to max. Since there is an area at the top of the screen for reloading, shooting off-screen instantly brings the cursor to the top and activates the trigger.  Works perfectly, problem solved!

As, for whether or not the guns will need recalibration upon resolution change. The guns (in Windows) are mapped to coordinates just like any other joystick. The Min/Max values should remain the same, the only thing that might change with a resolution switch might be the center point of where the joystick is mapped to. I'm going to conduct further testing on this, but as long as all those values stay the same it's conceivable to think that we might get away with not having to recalibrate every time the resolution changes. More info on this coming soon!

My next step is to find a proper monitor (hopefully capable of 15khz and 30khz) as for now I'm limited to 640x480 and up.
Jollywest:

--- Quote from: sgtsocko on August 07, 2014, 12:44:45 pm ---
The guns themselves are super accurate in the games I've tried in MAME (Area 51, Lethal enforcers 1&2, Point Blank 1&2, etc). I had some issues getting off-screen reload to work (in MAME) but since shooting off-screen triggers button 2 in Windows I just used XPadder to map that to a combination of up+ another button (mapped to trigger) on the keyboard and set the digital cursor speed to max. Since there is an area at the top of the screen for reloading, shooting off-screen instantly brings the cursor to the top and activates the trigger.  Works perfectly, problem solved!

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Hi! ... Nice to know I'm not alone on this and good idea with the reload issue. I found it only to be in a few MAME games so far. In Area 51 for example, I was just shooting at the top of the screen but think I'll give your idea a go, thanks.

Did you buy the America's Army game disk & USB2Gun direct from Global VR?
sgtsocko:

--- Quote from: Jollywest on August 07, 2014, 03:28:51 pm ---
Hi! ... Nice to know I'm not alone on this and good idea with the reload issue. I found it only to be in a few MAME games so far. In Area 51 for example, I was just shooting at the top of the screen but think I'll give your idea a go, thanks.


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The more the merrier!

As for the reload, yeah, not the most elegant solution, but MAME doesn't want to see the second button as "off-screen" from what I can tell.

This method does work perfectly though, you just have to make sure that the analog control values are maxed to ensure instant reload.


--- Quote from: Jollywest on August 07, 2014, 03:28:51 pm ---
Did you buy the America's Army game disk & USB2Gun direct from Global VR?

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I got the usb2gun board, 2 Happ guns, a pc, and the game from Jammaparts. I figured (much like you) that if I couldn't get it to work in Windows or Linux that at least I could build a dedicated America's Army cabinet. Luckily, everything works good in XP.

I was a little worried, having done my research and coming across another guy who couldn't seem to get it work. But I believe that he was using Namco guns and also was expecting the guns to track on screen perfectly. The guns do track (on bright surfaces) but they don't need to, because of the screen flash.

I then found this topic http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=82460.40. There was a guy who mentioned he got it working and figured I'd give it a shot. Quite an investment for "might work" but I was desperate hahaha.

Having tried some of the other light gun options (Topgun, Aimtrak) and having grown up in arcades playing the classics, I'm definitely happy with this setup!

The end result I'm hoping, will be building a cabinet (once I get a proper monitor) and having the perfect gun setup, with joysticks and buttons as an after thought : )
AlienInferno:
Glad to have ran across this.  I'm working on gathering parts for a dedicated light gun cabinet and this seems like it will fit the bill great.  Subscribed for sure.
Jollywest:

--- Quote from: sgtsocko on August 07, 2014, 06:20:10 pm ---
I got the usb2gun board, 2 Happ guns, a pc, and the game from Jammaparts. I figured (much like you) that if I couldn't get it to work in Windows or Linux that at least I could build a dedicated America's Army cabinet. Luckily, everything works good in XP.

I was a little worried, having done my research and coming across another guy who couldn't seem to get it work. But I believe that he was using Namco guns and also was expecting the guns to track on screen perfectly. The guns do track (on bright surfaces) but they don't need to, because of the screen flash.

I then found this topic http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=82460.40. There was a guy who mentioned he got it working and figured I'd give it a shot. Quite an investment for "might work" but I was desperate hahaha.

Having tried some of the other light gun options (Topgun, Aimtrak) and having grown up in arcades playing the classics, I'm definitely happy with this setup!

The end result I'm hoping, will be building a cabinet (once I get a proper monitor) and having the perfect gun setup, with joysticks and buttons as an after thought : )

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Your a brave man! ... All that must of cost a pretty penny, that's for sure. All worked out in the end for you though ;)

I also tried the Topgun as well as the Actlabs, and I can say the accuracy on the USB2Gun setup trumps them both.

Good luck with building your cab, keep us posted. :)

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