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Need For Speed: The Run not compatible with XP
Warborg:
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on May 31, 2013, 01:09:33 pm ---Sorry, IT guy here you can't out-tech me. ;)
Xp makes it difficult to use things like unsigned drivers and the parallel port, UAC constantly fights you, it's difficult to set joystick priorities ect.... I could fill this whole page with reasons. 7 is more bogged down with services, it's more difficult to hide the bootup, it usually boots much slower, really the only benefit is running dx 11 and I can count the games that require dx 11 on my one hand. But the most important thing is resources. Why would you run an OS that takes up 3 times as much ram at idle when you don't have to? Emulators need every bit of resources available to get peak performance, so there isn't any reason to needlessly fill those up. This is even more true for pc games btw, which typically eat up the ram.
I mean even though I prefer 7, the desktop I'm working on is permanently in test mode. If it wasn't then it would be worthless to me.
Who puts a SLI video card in a MAME cab? Who buys those things in the first place? Never pay more than 50 dollars for a video card because it'll be obsolete next month.
I've got legit copies of xp 64bit on all my machines.
I think you are confused as to the purpose of BM's post. We all prefer Xp, it just reduces bloat above all else and we all run it because thus far there has been no benefit to running 7. it was a warning that this particular game isn't xp friendly and perhaps the days of running xp without any differences might be coming to an end.
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I would have to agree with Fursphere when you look at the game that this thread is about... NFS The Run. This isn't a game that you are going to be running on a spare parts Pentium IV emulation machine... It's a fairly new game running Frostbite 2 that needs DX10.1/11, not an older game or something running through an emu. I would assume that if someone were trying to run that game they are running it on more current hardware due to it's requirements, and if that's the case I would think a newer OS as well. I'm not putting XP down, it's still running on my cabinet with some pretty old hardware in it beautifully, but I wouldn't run XP on my gaming rig with having somewhat current hardware.
So I guess my point is if your going to be trying to run more recent games I would think you'd also want to run a current OS... XP has it's place, and that place is with hardware/software from several years ago... :)
Howard_Casto:
You would be surprised what even newer games run on. You'll be hard pressed to find more than a couple that aren't optimized for Dx9. Why? Because game manufactures want to sell the game to as many people as possible, so in other words games are optimized for xp, not 7.
Like I said, it's a resource hog.... why run it if you don't need to?
Fursphere: I get the feeling you haven't really done a lot of emulation specific stuff from your reply. Unsigned drivers aren't for old hardware, it's for hacked hardware. Want to run wiimotes as a joystick? You need ppjoy, which is an unsigned driver. Want to use hacked xbox classic stuff? Again unsigned drivers. That kind of stuff is just the tip of the iceburg. What you'll find is that there are these minor annoyances that pop up when using 7 because many emulators, hardware interfaces, ect got their start in the 9x days. We don't run new software on our cabs... we run old stuff.
If a pc has 7 on it, I don't downgrade or anything like that, but if it's a mame cab I more often than not build the pc from scratch, at which point I don't bother with 7... the vast majority of people are like that.
Fursphere:
I haven't emulated a lot of hardware interfaces - if that's what you mean. I thought about getting my Wiimotes to work with my PC, but decided it wasn't worth the effort.
This thread kind of went off track. I'm not quite sure why you brought up "Most people run XP for their MAME cabinets" when the thread was clearly not about MAME - or running the game on a MAME cabinet. It had nothing to do with MAME.
I guess I'm just as guilty for carrying on about it. :)
Malenko:
I think we can all agree Windows 8 is terrible for desktops :laugh:
Howard_Casto:
--- Quote from: Fursphere on May 31, 2013, 10:09:01 pm ---I haven't emulated a lot of hardware interfaces - if that's what you mean. I thought about getting my Wiimotes to work with my PC, but decided it wasn't worth the effort.
This thread kind of went off track. I'm not quite sure why you brought up "Most people run XP for their MAME cabinets" when the thread was clearly not about MAME - or running the game on a MAME cabinet. It had nothing to do with MAME.
I guess I'm just as guilty for carrying on about it. :)
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Any emulation cabinet is about MAME, that's why I brought it up. MAME cab is a generic term.
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