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4-way joystick shootout! (Leaf-Pro, Sanwa JLW, Ultrastik 360, Seimitsu LS-32-02)
mgb:
in your tests, you found that the JLW will hit diagonals in 4-way mode?
I have tested this specifically and have not been able to hit diagonals.
I know the JLF will hit diagonals but I have never found this on the JLW.
RandyT:
--- Quote from: shponglefan on June 05, 2013, 10:40:43 pm ---I've since performed some more rigorous testing and two of the joysticks I've tested (the Leaf-Pro and the Sanwa JLW) can trigger multiple switches. Granted the range in which both switches activate is very narrow; in practice it likely wouldn't be noticed. But that's where I wonder about labeling a "4-way" stick as a true 4-way stick in the event the restrictor fails to do its job.
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Here's something to keep in mind; a stick like the Leaf-Pro has the ability to have a moderate, very tiny, or none whatsoever crossover between the switches. That is the beauty of a true, leaf-switch based stick. The switches can be easily tuned to the builder's preference. The trade-off on crossover size is sensitivity. When I build one, I try to adjust them to be right at the point where one switch disengages and the other engages. This keeps separation of the directions, while providing the best performance. But they are adjusted quickly, and tuned visually, as it is expected that builders will likely tweak them to meet their expectations. If you have been able to hit a diagonal with the Leaf-Pro within a very narrow field (which, as you noted, likely will not affect gameplay, as the transition occurs in a split second) then you simply need to do a very minor adjustment of the switches. To do this, you would simply flex the blade furthest from the actuator out just a tiny bit. With just a few minutes worth of tweaking, you will get the perfect balance of "no diagonals" and high-sensitivity, or increased sensitivity coupled with the the smallest diagonal zones acceptable which doesn't affect 4-way gameplay.
As you might be able to tell from your testing, and what I wrote above, the 4-way physical restriction is actually more important than the ability to consciously and forcibly register a diagonal in a non-gaming test.
Desdinova:
Great point by RandyT there! A pinball leaf adjuster tool comes in quite useful for such tinkering.
http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=1518
Chris John Hunter:
I would like to see how a Happ Competition goes against a Happ Ultimate.
I have Happ Competition for one of mine. I was recommended that they were better than Ultimates.
They were exactly the same price so i'd be interested in a comparison. I am more than happy with the Competition for the price I paid. :cheers:
CJ
ramos8414:
--- Quote from: Chris John Hunter on June 17, 2013, 12:07:18 am ---I would like to see how a Happ Competition goes against a Happ Ultimate.
I have Happ Competition for one of mine. I was recommended that they were better than Ultimates.
They were exactly the same price so i'd be interested in a comparison. I am more than happy with the Competition for the price I paid. :cheers:
CJ
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Happ competitions are a lot better.
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