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4-way joystick shootout! (Leaf-Pro, Sanwa JLW, Ultrastik 360, Seimitsu LS-32-02)
g_block247:
so if you were building a custom 4 way only stick for strictly 4-way (and some 2 way) games (DK, DK Jr, Pacman/Ms Pacman, Dig Dug, Galaga/Galaxian/ Galaga 88, Tapper, Satan's Hollow, Rally-X/New Rally X, Popeye, Space Invaders- any version, Timber and any other key 4 and 2 way classics I left out) what would be your choice?
Or should I go with the Happ Ms Pac-Man reunion stick
yotsuya:
--- Quote from: g_block247 on June 02, 2013, 08:21:43 pm ---so if you were building a custom 4 way only stick for strictly 4-way (and some 2 way) games (DK, DK Jr, Pacman/Ms Pacman, Dig Dug, Galaga/Galaxian/ Galaga 88, Tapper, Satan's Hollow, Rally-X/New Rally X, Popeye, Space Invaders- any version, Timber and any other key 4 and 2 way classics I left out) what would be your choice?
Or should I go with the Happ Ms Pac-Man reunion stick
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I went with the Happ Reunion Stick. No regrets.
Gray_Area:
I'd go with Randy's (GGG) Leaf-Pro, or one of his other offerings that allows his true 4-way restrictor. Or try a Zippy and mod the restrictor.
mgb:
I tried a couple of Zippyys and modified the restrictors. to me personally, they felt sloppy.
shponglefan:
--- Quote from: RandyT on May 28, 2013, 01:10:10 pm ---What makes a joystick a "true" 4-way actually goes beyond the ability of the user to actuate diagonal directions. In theory, nearly any joystick can be modified to only be able to hit one switch at a time. The HAPP Super tries to do this, by using a smaller round actuator. In practical terms, however, these arrangements do not offer true 4-way performance. What makes a proper true 4-way is not only the inability of the user to actuate a diagonal, but also (and perhaps more importantly in terms of gameplay) the inability of the user to physically move the stick in a direction which represents those diagonal directions. I.e. physical restriction.
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Fair enough, I can accept this. But, my original comment was made in the context of the failure of the restrictor to prevent actuation of multiple switches.
I've since performed some more rigorous testing and two of the joysticks I've tested (the Leaf-Pro and the Sanwa JLW) can trigger multiple switches. Granted the range in which both switches activate is very narrow; in practice it likely wouldn't be noticed. But that's where I wonder about labeling a "4-way" stick as a true 4-way stick in the event the restrictor fails to do its job. With something like the U360, it's otherwise impossible to use it diagonally (based on how I have it programmed) even if the restrictor would otherwise allow for that. So to me it's more of a true 4-way stick in that regard, because it can never be used in any other fashion. But the point about the restrictor being part of the equation is certainly true as well.
At any rate, I'll probably post a more formal update re: this testing, at some point in the future.
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