Author Topic: Mission Control Project: 5 years on, what to do with the leftovers? (Read 689418 times)

Pixelhugger · « **Reply #400 on:** April 29, 2005, 06:57:58 pm »

Nostrebor-

I've been thinking a lot about your ideas. There's no question the removable box is definitely a superior design for access. I'm undecided on the double layer of trim due mostly to the fact that it would change the overall look of the marquee that I've grown so accustomed to these last... oh... years.

nostrebor · « **Reply #401 on:** April 29, 2005, 08:14:20 pm »

(Edit below)

Ummm... OK?

It's your decision man.

I would expect more snags though. It's just the normal life cycle of any prototype. The more complex the prototype, the more recurring snags, and your proto complexity level is pretty high.

How about this thought. If your marquee is removable... and you build you cabinet... and it constantly bothers you... couldn't you just bend another marquee later? Like after the rest of the cabinet is done?

I personally allow certain things to slide on a prototype, based on one simple rule:

Rule #1 - If I can tweak it after the prototype is complete, and it does not require me to alter some other aspect of the construction process, I move on to the next step. (AKA: the "Progress over Perfection" rule)

Please understand that I do not consider my rule a free ride to be a screw up. Based on your previous work, I don't suspect that will happen though.

This rule allows me to finish my project and/or move forward to the next setback, whichever comes first. Then after the prototype is substantially complete. I tweak it to perfection.

Look at the bright side! The second one you build will be a piece of cake, because you already know where the setbacks will occur.

This has been - Deep thoughts from Dave.

BTW. I was starting to wonder what happened. So much momentum there for a bit!

Edit/Add: Reading through strikethru stinks! On read #3 I noticed that the marquee is wider than planned. How much? Can you adjust for this "revision" in your 3D model and decide to love it or hate it? Is it $60+ too wide?

Just some

to ponder

Pixelhugger · « **Reply #402 on:** April 29, 2005, 08:40:23 pm »

Yeah... what you said.

If I were to rebend later I would have to rebuild the top and bottom panels that hold the marquee in place. And re-rout and angle the channel etc. It'd be more work than I'd be willing to undertake at that point I think.

But as I continue to think about it, especially after reading through my own thoughts on it, I think it's clear to me that I've got to let certain things go. The width of the marquee front is not something to live or die by. It is a noticeable change from certain angles but it's the sort of thing I'd only see when toggling back and forth between images, not something I'd really notice if I didn't have a "before and after" to compare. I'm sorry to distract the thread. I felt like I had to make a decision for this weekend to either move forward or buy more stuff and start again.

Pixelhugger · « **Reply #403 on:** April 29, 2005, 08:46:23 pm »

Quote

Reading through strikethru stinks! On read #3 I noticed that the marquee is wider than planned. How much? Can you adjust for this "revision" in your 3D model and decide to love it or hate it? Is it $60+ too wide?

Yeah, I had adjusted it and rerendered. When I saw the noticeable change in aspect ratio I got nervous. But I'm just mooooooving on.

AmericanDemon · « **Reply #404 on:** April 30, 2005, 01:47:34 pm »

Good for you PH.

Because thats how we roll.

Pixelhugger · « **Reply #405 on:** May 09, 2005, 02:57:31 pm »

Thanks to a generous plastic bending expert BYOAC member.. I'm awaiting a strip heater to borrow for the final marquee face bending. Yeehah! So the marquee plastic should be done this weekend.

Until then I'm updating the thread with the OT but semi related Build Your Own Workshop Floor Logo project mentioned some time back. If nothing else, hopefully this shows that I do in fact complete my crazy, overambitious projects..... errr... eventually.

dphirschler · « **Reply #406 on:** May 09, 2005, 03:07:52 pm »

Wow! That kicks ass. That's gonna look great reflecting your eventual finished and lighted cab.

Regarding the artwork on your cabinet... As cool a design as that "rocket sprocket" is, your marquee and cpanel image don't seem to match the same style. They both look great, mind you, but just don't seem to match the rocket image style.

You seem like a capable artist. So the same thing might have been nagging you in the back of your head. Or perhaps you have resolved it somehow. If that is the case, I'd like to hear your thoughts.

Darryl

Pixelhugger · « **Reply #407 on:** May 09, 2005, 03:15:37 pm »

Well, Mission Control is to the Toyworks logo what Centipede is to Atari.

Hehe. So, maybe some separation of style is a good thing. $:-\$ But you're right... I would like to incorporate it into the cab artwork to match the cab sides, since the metal logo looks so cool.

hyiu · « **Reply #408 on:** May 09, 2005, 03:43:00 pm »

DAMM !!!!!

a room with matching logo on the floor !!!!

Holy Molly !!!....

really... donno what to say.... this board is full of such crazy people... haaa haa... (I mean it in a GOOD WAY !!!...)

THIS IS GREAT !!!... "I AM IMPRESSED !!!" is not even close to describe my feelings....

sorry for jumping in like that... but seeing this brings me to a whole new level.... this is JAW DROPPING good...

I really look forward to any progress / pics...

side note: anyone is re-modelling his house to become a matching custom cab

like a whole house with a theme with a few matching theme cabs

nostrebor · « **Reply #409 on:** May 09, 2005, 03:50:50 pm »

nice.

Did you wet the floor, or is it sealed with something to give it that mop-n-glo shine?

If you want to move to Missouri, I can get you a job as a concrete patcher in one particular precast plant

sidebar:

when you get that heater, plug it in and hold it for a bit. Maybe it's just me, but those things seem to have a fair amount of electric current leakage. You can post your results in the 5-in-1 thread where we are all sharing our electric shock experiences

Pixelhugger · « **Reply #410 on:** May 09, 2005, 04:03:28 pm »

No wetting. No coating. It's diamond polished to 3000 grit. By contrast most smooth warehouse floors are taken to 400 grit. So thats the actual concrete shining. Smooth as glass! Best of all I can blow the sawdust off the floor

I didn't do much of the work... only the logo carving and help with the line layout. I did get to do one or two passes with the polishing machine. But my concrete finishing friend did the rest. And it was a TON of work. Pass after pass after pass. It was a sort of practice canvas for him to test new procedures and stains. I'm covering the cost of materials and the hourly rate of his assistant. I could never afford the job otherwise.

And thanks again for the loaner Nostrebor!! I can hardly wait!

markrvp · « **Reply #411 on:** May 09, 2005, 04:08:22 pm »

PH,

THAT IS JUST FREAKING AWESOME. I'm sure you are very proud of it. I know I would be.

nostrebor · « **Reply #412 on:** May 09, 2005, 04:34:21 pm »

OK...ummmm, WOW!

That is serious overkill for a garage floor... I like it!

Be very careful in wet shoes. It will be slick. Actually even sawdust will make it slick... just be careful.

And you are welcome

Witchboard · « **Reply #413 on:** May 09, 2005, 06:46:51 pm »

You're going to be surprised when you walk inside your shop from the rain and go horizontal on that glass like floor.

markrvp · « **Reply #414 on:** May 09, 2005, 07:13:13 pm »

Pay no attention to the doomsayers. A few broken bones from slipping is a small price to pay for your beautiful floor!

Pixelhugger · « **Reply #415 on:** May 09, 2005, 07:34:51 pm »

Hehe... as long as I don't take a header into the table saw.

It's surprisingly grippy, actually. The local Home Depot just did the same to the floors in their new kitchen cabinet design center. Given the overly litigious nature of Californians, I'm guessing if it were a slip and fall risk in the slightest they'd never have done it.

I've wet it down several times and never had the sense it was anywhere close to being slippery. Certainly no more than the vinvyl composition tiles in the grocery store... or local highschool woodshop. Much grippier than either of those I think.

Santoro · « **Reply #416 on:** May 09, 2005, 09:35:54 pm »

Gotta tell you Pixel, that is the coolest. If I ever have a workshop, polished concrete is going to be on the floor.

nostrebor · « **Reply #417 on:** May 09, 2005, 10:37:52 pm »

I'm not saying that you are gonna fall, I'm just saying be aware. That is from a guy who works in the concrete industry helping designers decide to do stuff just like that!

(I'm just sensitive right now. I have been installing laminate flooring - it has reminded me of slip hazards on the shop floor. Laminate makes the perfect concrete ski.)

I actually have access to all the tools, stains, etc. to do a floor like that, free of charge even. I am simply too lazy to put the effort into it

My garage floor has a more natural look. 15 years of oil, overspray, burn marks and overall damage from building stock cars and car restorations. the only "intentional" mark on the floor is the line designating where to stand to throw darts. My shop floor is a historical landmark. 1000 years from now, a seasoned archaeologist will enjoy the story it tells of my life, and the greatness of my varied and sundry hobbies

Ghoward · « **Reply #418 on:** May 10, 2005, 09:59:34 am »

The floor is very cool, but I have to ask what does this have to do with building a Arcade machine?

Gary

Felsir · « **Reply #419 on:** May 10, 2005, 10:30:33 am »

Quote from: Ghoward on May 10, 2005, 09:59:34 am

The floor is very cool, but I have to ask what does this have to do with building a Arcade machine?

Check out the whole thread: Pixelhugger is creating a cabinet with cool matching floor

Great stuff

Witchboard · « **Reply #420 on:** May 10, 2005, 11:56:49 am »

Quote from: Felsir on May 10, 2005, 10:30:33 am

Quote from: Ghoward on May 10, 2005, 09:59:34 am
The floor is very cool, but I have to ask what does this have to do with building a Arcade machine?

Check out the whole thread: Pixelhugger is creating a cabinet with cool matching floor

rdagger · « **Reply #421 on:** May 10, 2005, 12:25:45 pm »

That is the coolest workshop floor I've ever seen. Did you take any before and after photos? Are you worried about cracks, since you live in earthquake territory?

Pixelhugger · « **Reply #422 on:** May 10, 2005, 12:38:37 pm »

Oh, there are cracks. A slab that big with no scoring to channel them and I guess that's to be expected. It's cool though, adds character. Yeah, that's it.... character.

The only before pics are a couple pages back in the thread showing the engraving. Before it was basically like sidewalk concrete.

Ghoward- Yeah, it's a bit OT. In my obsessed mind however the workshop and the cabinet are part of the same larger picture. The floor is relevant (sorta) because of its logo, which it shares with the cabinet. Originally I was gonna do vinyl composition tiles with a space invader image in a contrasting color in the center.... so I guess I've still got it in my head that it is arcade related.

Nostrebor- I do appreciate the advice

and didn't think you were naysaying. I am, after all, the kind of guy who could slip and fall while standing still, so the concern is a valid one. $:-\$

DrewKaree · « **Reply #423 on:** May 11, 2005, 12:25:53 am »

Quote from: Felsir on May 10, 2005, 10:30:33 am

Quote from: Ghoward on May 10, 2005, 09:59:34 am
The floor is very cool, but I have to ask what does this have to do with building a Arcade machine?

Check out the whole thread: Pixelhugger is creating a cabinet with cool matching floor

No no no no no no NO! You've got it all backwards. He was creating a cool workshop floor with a matching cabinet

PoDunkMoFo · « **Reply #424 on:** May 11, 2005, 01:30:54 am »

Wow!

And my wife calls me a nerd.

Guess the cabs gonna have to me included when you sell the house.

spriggy · « **Reply #425 on:** May 11, 2005, 07:27:07 am »

Now that's Arcade Passion for ya!

Outstanding PixelH!!

spriggy

greywolf22 · « **Reply #426 on:** May 11, 2005, 09:05:28 am »

What more can I add....

AWESOME

Ghoward · « **Reply #427 on:** May 11, 2005, 10:04:06 am »

If he didn't spend so much time working on the floor etc he would have a working cab by now.

How about custom wallpaper? With the logo on it. Then we could have "Mission control wallpaper hanging"

Sorry about the comments but I want to see the finished cab as much as everyone else, it looks wonderful in the renders.

Gary

Santoro · « **Reply #428 on:** May 11, 2005, 01:54:03 pm »

If you really wanted to see the cab done, you wouldn't be giving him cool ideas like wallpaper, etc.

DrewKaree · « **Reply #429 on:** May 11, 2005, 05:34:18 pm »

Quote from: Santoro on May 11, 2005, 01:54:03 pm

If you really wanted to see the cab done, you wouldn't be giving him cool ideas like wallpaper, etc.

Chalk one up for Dave!

nostrebor · « **Reply #430 on:** May 11, 2005, 09:18:00 pm »

We have all learned that it is anti-productive to suggest things that appeal to Pixel's creative side.

Pixelhugger · « **Reply #431 on:** May 11, 2005, 10:10:43 pm »

....wait...wait....

Hmmmmm..... what about Mission Control...... bedspread and sheet set....

.....matching pajamas.....

...pillowcases.....

.....electric toothbrush maybe........

DrewKaree · « **Reply #432 on:** May 11, 2005, 10:48:23 pm »

How about a coffee table book about your build.....kinda like a companion to the whole thing....or a flyer, like they used to have announcing new games or.....

nostrebor · « **Reply #433 on:** May 11, 2005, 10:53:15 pm »

[kelso voice] "BURN!!!" [/Kelso voice]

papercut · « **Reply #434 on:** May 28, 2005, 01:41:03 am »

I'm sure my little post here will get everyone excited to think Pixelhugger updated this thread.

I went and registered just FOR this thread and now I come back and find it buried on page two with no updates for 2 weeks?

What's up Pixel? You rolling around naked on your new polished cement floor?

ras2a · « **Reply #435 on:** May 29, 2005, 05:16:59 am »

Not checked this thread for a bit. Pix - one word = S T U N N I N G !!!!

armax · « **Reply #436 on:** May 29, 2005, 08:58:46 am »

So when is the actual construction of the cabinet going to start? I've seen lots of work on the accessories (marquee plexi and floor) but any thoughts on an ETA on cutting wood?

nostrebor · « **Reply #437 on:** May 29, 2005, 09:33:45 am »

I've been trading PM with Pixelhugger... He's buried at work right now.

Sometimes those pesky jobs get in the way of our ever-important hobbies $:-\$

Pixelhugger · « **Reply #438 on:** June 01, 2005, 05:21:11 pm »

Due to a last minute scheduling "power grab" of congressional proportion I snuck a couple of hours into the project before work was the wiser.

ChadTower · « **Reply #439 on:** June 02, 2005, 01:26:19 pm »

Quote from: Pixelhugger on February 14, 2005, 05:23:36 pm

Along the way we'll be staining the area outside the gear a deep blue, and coloring the area between the gear and rocket a coordinating color.

How does one stain concrete?


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