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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #40 on: March 04, 2013, 09:38:56 am »
Just tested the latest version and it's working almost perfectly :) Thank you guys for your superb work on this  :notworthy: I was just wondering how to adjust the modeline(s) to get the right lower corner straight, because now it's curved to the center a bit and thus the image is overall a bit squashed near the right edge. I've set the horizontal size from the monitor controls properly, so that should not be a problem.

Running latest GA and M3129, here's my monitor section from mame.ini:

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modeline                  1
monitor   custom
orientation               horizontal
connector                 auto
interlace                 1
doublescan                1
cleanstretch              1
changeres                 1
powerstrip                0
lock_system_modes         1
lock_unsupported_modes    1
refresh_dont_care         0
dotclock_min              0
sync_refresh_tolerance    2.0
frame_delay               0
lcd_range                 auto
crt_range0                15250-16500, 40-80, 4.187, 4.688, 4.719, 0.190, 0.191, 1.018, 1, 1, 224, 288, 448, 576
crt_range1                23900-24420, 40-80, 2.910, 3.000, 4.440, 0.451, 0.164, 1.048, 1, 1, 320, 384, 0, 0
crt_range2                31000-32000, 40-80, 0.636, 3.813, 1.906, 0.318, 0.064, 1.048, 1, 1, 480, 512, 0, 0
crt_range3                auto
crt_range4                auto
crt_range5                auto
crt_range6                auto
crt_range7                auto
crt_range8                auto
crt_range9                auto



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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #41 on: March 06, 2013, 02:29:17 pm »
@NightSprinter,

I'm intererested on your xorg.conf, the part where you define the horizontal frequency ranges as 15-16.25.

As for the modelines only working for standalone games when they're hardcoded into xorg.conf, this is really interesing, I wonder what's the difference between both methods from X's point of view. It shoudn't be different.

Now that you mention, I just couldn't get the Gens emulator to pick the modelines dynamically created by SwitchRes. That's why we finally chose Mednafen for Groovy.

It might have to do with the way the 'label' for the game is defined by xrandr. In the log you passed, that particular game seems to be requesting the mode labelled as 640x480x32 @55. Could it be xrandr is not adding the x32 so Wine can't find it?
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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #42 on: March 06, 2013, 02:43:12 pm »
Sure, I can gladly post it tonight after work.  I think with RCF, it was just how it was coded into the game.  This HorizSync line was probably why the other distros I used reported modes generated by switchres being out of range.  This will be useful info for other XM2960 owners.  If need-be, I can test this file on other distros with the patched kernel.  Will keep you updated.
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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #43 on: March 07, 2013, 08:40:34 am »
Having problems with the 'Installing Groovy Arcade Arch Linux to a USB Flash Drive' guide, im at the stage of "Partition Manager (CAUTION!)' i have my USB stick in, but when i select the USB drive to partition i get the following error message...

"FATAL ERROR: Bad Primary Partition 1: Partition begins after end-of-disk. Press and key to exit cfdisk"

any ideas??

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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #44 on: March 07, 2013, 10:20:15 am »
Sorry for not posting this up last night, Calamity, but I was just dead tired after work and needed sleep.  Here's the file in forum-compatible format.  I did remember reading from various x.org and XFree86 references that one can use multiple HorizSync ranges if a monitor supported it.  I just didn't realize that I had to put in a full range (as we both know, sadly the XM2960's monitor doesn't give much information if at all about the unit's 15.75KHz timings).  I can say it is surprising that it works so well going as low as 15.25KHz.  I'm sure we can experiment more to find out its true low-res timings and ranges.
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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #45 on: March 07, 2013, 11:37:55 am »
Having problems with the 'Installing Groovy Arcade Arch Linux to a USB Flash Drive' guide, im at the stage of "Partition Manager (CAUTION!)' i have my USB stick in, but when i select the USB drive to partition i get the following error message...

"FATAL ERROR: Bad Primary Partition 1: Partition begins after end-of-disk. Press and key to exit cfdisk"

any ideas??

Probably that pendrive came already pre-formated when you bought it and for some reason cfdisk can't figure out its partition table. Follow these steps from a Windows box in order to delete the pendrive partition, then try again: http://www.rdweb.co.uk/removing_partition_hard_drive_using_windows_xp/

EDIT: Well, actually by deleting the partition in Windows you can just skip the partition manager step in the guide and go on with hard drive installation.
« Last Edit: March 07, 2013, 11:51:13 am by Calamity »
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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #46 on: March 07, 2013, 12:43:10 pm »
Having problems with the 'Installing Groovy Arcade Arch Linux to a USB Flash Drive' guide, im at the stage of "Partition Manager (CAUTION!)' i have my USB stick in, but when i select the USB drive to partition i get the following error message...

"FATAL ERROR: Bad Primary Partition 1: Partition begins after end-of-disk. Press and key to exit cfdisk"

any ideas??

Probably that pendrive came already pre-formated when you bought it and for some reason cfdisk can't figure out its partition table. Follow these steps from a Windows box in order to delete the pendrive partition, then try again: http://www.rdweb.co.uk/removing_partition_hard_drive_using_windows_xp/

EDIT: Well, actually by deleting the partition in Windows you can just skip the partition manager step in the guide and go on with hard drive installation.

Hmm, doesnt give me an option to delete the partition on the USB drive, there is only 1 partition on the usbstick.

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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #47 on: March 07, 2013, 12:46:53 pm »
Hmm, doesnt give me an option to delete the partition on the USB drive, there is only 1 partition on the usbstick.

?? There should be just 1 partition on the pendrive, yes, just right click on it and delete...
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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #48 on: March 07, 2013, 12:52:54 pm »
Hmm, doesnt give me an option to delete the partition on the USB drive, there is only 1 partition on the usbstick.

?? There should be just 1 partition on the pendrive, yes, just right click on it and delete...

There is no option to delete the partition its greyed out, only to format it.....


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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #49 on: March 07, 2013, 01:02:03 pm »
I just googled for you: It's Delete volumen in W7 :)

http://ask-leo.com/how_do_i_remove_a_partition_in_windows_7.html

Down in the comments they point a solution for the greyed out option.
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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #50 on: March 07, 2013, 01:22:53 pm »
I just googled for you: It's Delete volumen in W7 :)

http://ask-leo.com/how_do_i_remove_a_partition_in_windows_7.html

Down in the comments they point a solution for the greyed out option.

Cheers i had to download a program called 'Partition Wizard' to delete the active partition of the USB stick

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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #51 on: March 07, 2013, 01:24:57 pm »
Cheers i had to download a program called 'Partition Wizard' to delete the active partition of the USB stick

That's good then. Let us know how the installation goes.
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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #52 on: March 07, 2013, 02:32:20 pm »
Everything has installed find, running of my USB stick now and has found my MAME rom folder. But im unable to get any audio, im just trying this out on my Media PC thats connected to my LCD TV and am using the HDMI cable for the audio aswell as the video....not sure if this is the route of the problem.

Im also having problems with my LCD TV and a 'No Signal' problem. It will boot up into the FE find if i press ESC and try and change an option for video or audio settings it will then load the FE fine again, BUT if i need to alter the settings again and tell it to load the FE once more my LCD screen always reports theres 'No Signal', it always appears to be the 2nd time you enter the options and try and load the FE agian, any ideas?

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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #53 on: March 07, 2013, 02:39:46 pm »
Give me a bit to get home, and I will walk you through how to set preferred output as default.
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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #54 on: March 07, 2013, 03:35:17 pm »
@lettuce: you'll probably need some manual tweaking in order to get audio out of the hdmi output, no one has tested this yet as far as I know. Sorry for this. Although the LCD settings are provided for convenience, there's no real fun in running GA on a LCD monitor.
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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #55 on: March 07, 2013, 03:52:24 pm »
@lettuce: you'll probably need some manual tweaking in order to get audio out of the hdmi output, no one has tested this yet as far as I know. Sorry for this. Although the LCD settings are provided for convenience, there's no real fun in running GA on a LCD monitor.

Yeah i know im not getting the full benefit out of it using the LCD i just wanted to see what it was like. Any pointers on getting the audio working thought would be appropriated

Question about this LiveCD, when i finally build my Arcade cab, how do i go about using this on a HDD rather than a USB stick, it will be straight forward enough to get the program on the HDD but what about the roms etc, as i wont be able to copy the rom to the HDD first as you delete the partition on the drive your installed Groovy Arcade onto. any suggestions

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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #56 on: March 07, 2013, 03:56:20 pm »
lettuce, I sent a PM with a link to the Arch Linux wiki regarding alsa.  You also should do aplay -l to see what the order of your sound cards is.  I can keep looking up more info for you if you'd like.
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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #57 on: March 07, 2013, 04:07:53 pm »
lettuce, I sent a PM with a link to the Arch Linux wiki regarding alsa.  You also should do aplay -l to see what the order of your sound cards is.  I can keep looking up more info for you if you'd like.

Thanks for the info, but i dont have a clue when it come to Linux so thats all gibberish to me lol  :cry:

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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #58 on: March 07, 2013, 05:47:35 pm »
Followed your advice, Calamity, and managed to get the timings all the way down to the following for getting most of my stuff right via
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crt_range0    15750-16250,45-80,0.900,4.700,8.400,0.062,0.062,0.740,0,0,160,288,448,488.  Other than things looking slightly odd in the "Press Start" screen of MK1 and some games having audio pitch issues, looks like we're good now.

[Edit] Hmm, how disconcerting.  Many things in AdvMenu (despite rom directories being set up) are not loading games, and Mednafen cannot even be exited at all without going to a virtual terminal and killing it there.
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[Edit 2]
Oh, now that's an interesting error read out from mupenplus64.
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Video Warning: Failed to set GL_BUFFER_SIZE to 32. (it's 24)
Video Warning: Failed to set GL_DEPTH_SIZE to 16. (it's 24)
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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #59 on: March 11, 2013, 01:50:26 am »
So who has done fun modifications with GroovyArcade? I've replaced the default elevator music in AdvanceMenuPlus with Back In Time from the Back to the Future soundtrack which couldn't be more perfect. Also have Jim Carey saying Aaalrighty Then to start a game and Christopher Llyod Time Switches On to exit a game. Then Mike Myers DENIED when exiting the frontend.

Adds some more life to it IMO. :)

Oh and the only other technical issue I have is that UME-Genesis just comes up with a black screen and doesn't load any games. UME SNES and NES work fine. The regular genesis emu works fine but I wanted to see Sonic the Hedgehog with scanlines. ;)
« Last Edit: March 11, 2013, 01:59:22 am by mamenewb100 »
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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #60 on: March 11, 2013, 06:40:04 am »
'Back in Time', good choice from best movie ever  :D

Oh and the only other technical issue I have is that UME-Genesis just comes up with a black screen and doesn't load any games. UME SNES and NES work fine. The regular genesis emu works fine but I wanted to see Sonic the Hedgehog with scanlines. ;)

That's odd, UME-Genesis is working fine here. Make sure your Genesis BIOS matches your ROMs area, etc. (just an idea).
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« Reply #61 on: March 11, 2013, 06:48:53 am »
[Edit] Hmm, how disconcerting.  Many things in AdvMenu (despite rom directories being set up) are not loading games, and Mednafen cannot even be exited at all without going to a virtual terminal and killing it there.
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Well, we should have warned about this, sorry: only Sega and Nintendo consoles have been tested in GA (at least tested by me). This is certainly biased as I don't care about the other systems, we just kept them because they were there in the previous versions, but I don't even have ROMs of Atari or ColecoVision here to test. Hopefully we can add the right settings in following versions of Gasetup, or just remove those systems from the auto-config menus.

Did you have any issues with NES/SNES, Master System, Genesis? I remind Mednafen exiting here with no problems. Check the keyboard setup in its config file, but I believe it was Escape.
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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #62 on: March 11, 2013, 09:25:24 am »
Will check tonight.  Getting busy at work (spring break and all).  Also going to do more distro tests.  Also, any reason why my crt_specs0 line in switchres.conf comes up as invalid?  Different syntax, maybe?
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« Reply #63 on: March 11, 2013, 11:23:39 am »
Will check tonight.  Getting busy at work (spring break and all).  Also going to do more distro tests.  Also, any reason why my crt_specs0 line in switchres.conf comes up as invalid?  Different syntax, maybe?

OK, I just checked Mednafen and yes, you need to press "5" (coin) in order to exit, I'm not sure why Ves chose this key but hey.

As for the crt_specs reported as invalid, please post the exact message because it will give us a hint of which value it's complaining abot. Switchres now uses the exact same crt_specs as GroovyMAME.
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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #64 on: March 14, 2013, 04:19:23 am »
I have a problem with GroovyArcade. Setup is New Net City (Tri sync monitor) + Radeon 4350.

It boot and play fine on live cd but if I install on usb key + reboot = NO SIGNAL

I was using the VGA output so I tested with a DVI to VGA changer but it does not works and I think it's because the DVI output is DVI-D. I dont think that a simple gender changer can works with a DVI-D output. I dont understand that on official website it show a DVI-I Dual Link output but the real thing is a DVI-D Dual Link output. Something is wrong...

The video card is R4350-MD512D3H/LP.

Can my problem be fixed or I should switch to Windows XP64 + Calamity Driver ?

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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #65 on: March 16, 2013, 04:54:13 am »
Update : I tested 32 and 64 bit isos with a Radeon 4350 (VGA) and 5450 (DVI to VGA). While booting with live cd it works fine but if I install on HDD + reboot = black screen.

Monitor is Tri sync Toshiba (New Net City) and I use Arcade 15/24/31khz tri sync profil. I tested Arcade 15 khz only profil and still have the same problem.

I dont know what to try now ...

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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #66 on: March 16, 2013, 06:25:43 am »
Update : I tested 32 and 64 bit isos with a Radeon 4350 (VGA) and 5450 (DVI to VGA). While booting with live cd it works fine but if I install on HDD + reboot = black screen.

Monitor is Tri sync Toshiba (New Net City) and I use Arcade 15/24/31khz tri sync profil. I tested Arcade 15 khz only profil and still have the same problem.

I dont know what to try now ...

Hi akumajo,

Always use the target computer to make the install (instead of installing to usb on your laptop and then try the pendrive on your arcade machine).

At what time during boot are you getting a back screen? Are you able to see the first part of it at least?

As soon as the splash screen appears, press escape to hide it. The splash screen makes the video fail on X start on some system, so probably this could be the issue. To disable the snag screen permanently, enter gasetup, video setup, video grub.
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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #67 on: March 16, 2013, 06:56:30 am »
Hi,

I dont use any laptop... directly PC connected to Cabinet.

I can see the blue boot logo (GroovyArcade) then black screen. No sound too.

I will try your solution and report, thx.

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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #68 on: March 16, 2013, 08:29:38 am »
It works ! For both video card. Thanks !

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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #69 on: March 16, 2013, 09:17:46 am »
I wanted to give this a try.
I am using a dell d610 laptop with a x300 ati card on a tv through vga to scart cable.
I can see the linux boot on the tv.
I choose the monitor type (generic15khz) then start X/frontend but the screen goes black on the TV and the game  starts on the lcd.

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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #70 on: March 16, 2013, 09:20:55 am »
What ? You are using 2 monitors at once ?

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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #71 on: March 16, 2013, 09:24:17 am »
well, it is a laptop so there is an lcd. The tv is hooked up to the vga port.

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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #72 on: March 16, 2013, 09:28:15 am »
Probably because LCD is the default monitor ... Lets wait for the expert of GroovyArcade, maybe there is a trick  :cheers: .

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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #73 on: March 16, 2013, 09:33:20 am »
That would be the reason why. I can not select the mnitor number with the live cd apparently. I am thinking about setting up the system then edit the monitor number in x.org.

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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #74 on: March 16, 2013, 09:56:23 am »
Any ideas what monitor i should select from the monitor select screen on the live CD for a Sony PVM 20M4E?, only reason i ask is it has 800 lines rather than the usual 576. Also what BOOT screen is it that can damage a CRT monitor the very first boot screen or is it one in the live CD installation ?

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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #75 on: March 19, 2013, 12:26:22 pm »
That would be the reason why. I can not select the mnitor number with the live cd apparently. I am thinking about setting up the system then edit the monitor number in x.org.

Hi oliver,

At this date I have not been able make GroovyArcade/Linux target the secondary video device. I wonder if it's even possible. That's, indirectly, the reason why GroovyArcade doesn't work for laptops, because afaik laptops always consider its lcd screen as primary device.

Multi-screen support should be the main goal of feature releases, because this is probably the main drawback of GA as compared to Windows. But this not only means solving the xorg part (Xinerama?), it will also require GroovyMAME to be built with SDL 2.0 support (currently it's based on SDL 1.2).
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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #76 on: March 19, 2013, 12:32:38 pm »
Any ideas what monitor i should select from the monitor select screen on the live CD for a Sony PVM 20M4E?, only reason i ask is it has 800 lines rather than the usual 576. Also what BOOT screen is it that can damage a CRT monitor the very first boot screen or is it one in the live CD installation ?

Hi lettuce, the screen that's out of range for the typical 15 kHz CRT is the very first boot screens: the BIOS post and the grub menu. After that it will jump to 15 kHz and stay there, so the gasetup menu (the blue menus where the installation is done) is all 15 kHz.

If the PVM admits 800 lines then you can safely use the D9800 settings for it. Then you may want to find custom settings for mame.ini, but that could be a good starting point.
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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #77 on: March 19, 2013, 06:15:24 pm »
Any ideas what monitor i should select from the monitor select screen on the live CD for a Sony PVM 20M4E?, only reason i ask is it has 800 lines rather than the usual 576. Also what BOOT screen is it that can damage a CRT monitor the very first boot screen or is it one in the live CD installation ?

Hi lettuce, the screen that's out of range for the typical 15 kHz CRT is the very first boot screens: the BIOS post and the grub menu. After that it will jump to 15 kHz and stay there, so the gasetup menu (the blue menus where the installation is done) is all 15 kHz.

If the PVM admits 800 lines then you can safely use the D9800 settings for it. Then you may want to find custom settings for mame.ini, but that could be a good starting point.

So how can some CRT display display the first 2 boot screens if these are 31khz??, any ideas is the Boot (F8) screen where you select what device to boot from is 31khz or 15khz??

Ok ill try the D9800 settings, why is it suggested to use the D9800 is that a multisync??, as the Sony PVM is only a 15khz display?

I have a 64GB USB Stick, is it possible to make 2 partitions in windows on this usb stick, 1 say 2GB (for GA installation) and the rest for ROMS and SNAP Shoots etc. Then copy all my roms and snap shots over to the larger partition on the USB stick and then take it to the PC im going to be using GA on and insert and then run the GA live CD program. When i get to the create partition on the USB stick will this wipe the whole stick or only the 2GB partition and leave the partition with the roms on in tact so then i cant point GA installer to this partition to search for roms?. Thus having GA and all my roms all on 1 removable USB stick
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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #78 on: March 19, 2013, 07:24:42 pm »
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So how can some CRT display display the first 2 boot screens if these are 31khz??, any ideas is the Boot (F8) screen where you select what device to boot from is 31khz or 15khz??

Any 31 kHz monitor like a normal PC monitor can deal with these screens, I mean this is not a Groovy Arcade issue, this is the typical problem you're already familiar with, it's the same with Windows that it doesn't output 15 kHz until it reaches the welcome screen.

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Ok ill try the D9800 settings, why is it suggested to use the D9800 is that a multisync??, as the Sony PVM is only a 15khz display?

Oh sorry, forget what I said, use the "Arcade standard" settings. I just thought it was multisync when you said it supported 800 lines, now I see it can't be 800p but 800i.

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I have a 64GB USB Stick, is it possible to make 2 partitions in windows on this usb stick, 1 say 2GB (for GA installation) and the rest for ROMS and SNAP Shoots etc. Then copy all my roms and snap shots over to the larger partition on the USB stick and then take it to the PC im going to be using GA on and insert and then run the GA live CD program. When i get to the create partition on the USB stick will this wipe the whole stick or only the 2GB partition and leave the partition with the roms on in tact so then i cant point GA installer to this partition to search for roms?. Thus having GA and all my roms all on 1 removable USB stick

No, it doesn't work like that. The partition tool assumes you're going to wipe the whole disk, so it will create three different partitions in it, all of them for Groovy. You can't keep separate OS partitions within the same disk. (well, ok.... it is possible indeed, but you need to have some Linux knowledge and skills to create your own custom setup, etc.)

My advice: if you are a Windows user, follow my usb guide VERBATIM.

The guide assumes you already have a Windows based *working system* with your all your roms in.

Just to clarify, when the installation asks you "Do you have a ROMs partition?" you have to answer NO, because this option is intended for hard drive installations when you want to keep your previous ROMs partition and upgrade the rest of the Groovy Arcade system.

Of course it is possible to have all your roms within your 64 MB pendrive so you have a complete portable system. It's only that you need to manually copy them into the rom folder that the Groovy Arcade installation creates, once the installation is done. This is not difficult at all, but you need to perform this operation from Linux, not previously from Windows. This single step has been the main obstacle, in my opinion, for Windows users to give a serious try to Groovy Arcade. That's why since the days when Chris started with this and later with Ves, I've emphasized so much the importance of implementing a method to allow the user to browse to his ROMS *instead* of needing to copy them. This copy operation is trivial for Linux users.



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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #79 on: March 19, 2013, 08:41:44 pm »
No, it doesn't work like that. The partition tool assumes you're going to wipe the whole disk, so it will create three different partitions in it, all of them for Groovy. You can't keep separate OS partitions within the same disk. (well, ok.... it is possible indeed, but you need to have some Linux knowledge and skills to create your own custom setup, etc.)

My advice: if you are a Windows user, follow my usb guide VERBATIM.

The guide assumes you already have a Windows based *working system* with your all your roms in.

Just to clarify, when the installation asks you "Do you have a ROMs partition?" you have to answer NO, because this option is intended for hard drive installations when you want to keep your previous ROMs partition and upgrade the rest of the Groovy Arcade system.

Of course it is possible to have all your roms within your 64 MB pendrive so you have a complete portable system. It's only that you need to manually copy them into the rom folder that the Groovy Arcade installation creates, once the installation is done. This is not difficult at all, but you need to perform this operation from Linux, not previously from Windows. This single step has been the main obstacle, in my opinion, for Windows users to give a serious try to Groovy Arcade. That's why since the days when Chris started with this and later with Ves, I've emphasized so much the importance of implementing a method to allow the user to browse to his ROMS *instead* of needing to copy them. This copy operation is trivial for Linux users.

Yeah this is the problem i dont have an installation of Linux, and its doesnt seem worth installing it just to copy the roms etc over the rom folder that GA creates. Plus ive never used Linux in my life.
 
I just thought if i did the partition in windows, i can skip this step in your installation guide thus not wiping the whole of the USB stick. I had to do this for my test run of installing GA, where i was getting the error message, "FATAL ERROR: Bad Primary Partition 1: Partition begins after end-of-disk. Press and key to exit cfdisk". To which you suggested just creating the partition in windows and skipping the step in your guide?
« Last Edit: March 19, 2013, 08:48:17 pm by lettuce »

  
 

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