KADE Encoder and Kick Starter Project

[DeLuSioNal29]

Has anyone tested the Kade with Injustice on Steam?

Can it emulate the x360?

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[rablack97]

Has anyone tested the Kade with Injustice on Steam?

Can it emulate the x360?

D

Not sure what the team has in store in the future, but I can confirm Kade cannot emulate a x360 j-stik, some kind of proprietary chip or code thats needed in order for the 360 to communicate with the encoder.  The PS360 can , somehow they were able to work around this, which is why you see that black tar splotch on the board.

[Generic Eric]

Has anyone tested the Kade with Injustice on Steam?

Can it emulate the x360?

D

Not sure what the team has in store in the future, but I can confirm Kade cannot emulate a x360 j-stik, some kind of proprietary chip or code thats needed in order for the 360 to communicate with the encoder.  The PS360 can , somehow they were able to work around this, which is why you see that black tar splotch on the board.

How about an expanded board to accept a daughter board with a spot of tar?

[rablack97]

That's a possibility i think its a rare sludge found in Tibet, along the himalayas.  From what I know a llama has to spit in at high noon on a leap year as well.

[DeLuSioNal29]

Yeah, I took a look at the PS360, but it has a pretty hefty price tag (and I would need 2 for my panel).

So how does the game Injustice see the Kade?  As a keyboard or joystick?  Anyone actually try it?

[sharpfork]

Yeah, I took a look at the PS360, but it has a pretty hefty price tag (and I would need 2 for my panel).

So how does the game Injustice see the Kade?  As a keyboard or joystick?  Anyone actually try it?

I play steam Super Meat Boy on my PC all the time with the KADE in PS3 mode which is just a specific mapping of the HID gamepad.  I'm works fine as a keyboard encoder too.  I also use KADE in PSX mode and a PS360 converter cable on my 360 all the time for shmups.

We aren't really interested in trying to get around the 360 security like the "open source" ps360 (they haven't opened their source BTW).  I'm not interested in getting calls from MS lawyers.

[rablack97]

Injustice via PC seems like a PITA to get up and running well from what i've read. 

Also when you say x360, do you mean a stick or the x360 software program?

[DeLuSioNal29]

Injustice via PC seems like a PITA to get up and running well from what i've read. 

Yes, and that's an understatement!

Also when you say x360, do you mean a stick or the x360 software program?

When I say x360 I mean the actual Xbox controller, not the x360ce software.

We aren't really interested in trying to get around the 360 security

Me neither!  Just getting around the Steam game lack of keyboard support.  But now that you mentioned the fact that you use it in PS3 mode, it got me thinking.  Maybe we can forget about the xbox360 control altogether and focus on the PS3 mode so that Injustice will work properly?

I posted something about it here as well:
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,135996.msg1439737.html#msg1439737

DeLuSioNaL29

[DeLuSioNal29]

So I did some more experimenting and it turns out a standard USB stick should work just fine with Injustice.  Not sure how I missed the obvious.   

So the Kade Encoder should work just fine.   

DeLuSioNaL29

[rablack97]

Yeah i'm gonna be using a Kade on my ps3 best fighting games setup.....future build, collecting the games now

[yotsuya]

My new Minimus AVR came in today.  I've decided to order two more tomorrow. I'm hooked on KADE!

[yotsuya]

Damn, Amazon is out of them.

[Vigo]

  I was gonna get a couple too.

[pbj]

PBJ endorsement effect in full swing.

 

[CraftyMech]

I'm looking forward to getting started on a Dreamcast interface to an arcade cab using the KADE instead of a pad hack. Thinking about using a VGA CRT to run both DC and Xbox 360 Shmups in vertical mode.

[Generic Eric]

I'm looking forward to getting started on a Dreamcast interface to an arcade cab using the KADE instead of a pad hack. Thinking about using a VGA CRT to run both DC and Xbox 360 Shmups in vertical mode.

wUt?

How many shumps are there that can play in vertical orientation on xbox360?  will you have a vga switch box or do you have VGA and DVI on that monitor?  Also, will you interface controls in such a way that you can use same set of controls for dreamcast and xbox 360?

Nevermind I found a list.  Looks like its a good thing I still have that xbox live card.

[emphatic]

I'm looking forward to getting started on a Dreamcast interface to an arcade cab using the KADE instead of a pad hack. Thinking about using a VGA CRT to run both DC and Xbox 360 Shmups in vertical mode.

KADE does 360 too?  Or do you mean that you want to use KADE for DC only?

[CraftyMech]

I'm looking forward to getting started on a Dreamcast interface to an arcade cab using the KADE instead of a pad hack. Thinking about using a VGA CRT to run both DC and Xbox 360 Shmups in vertical mode.

wUt?

How many shumps are there that can play in vertical orientation on xbox360?  will you have a vga switch box or do you have VGA and DVI on that monitor?  Also, will you interface controls in such a way that you can use same set of controls for dreamcast and xbox 360?

Nevermind I found a list.  Looks like its a good thing I still have that xbox live card.

Yep, lots of Shmups on Xbox live. And a good selection of region free Cave games on disc as well.

For the Dreamcast, the list of games you can play in vertical mode is much smaller, around a dozen I believe.

The idea would be to interface the cab's controls with both systems. I've played on a nice Astro City that was set-up that way and it was pretty sweet. Originally a tri-sync monitor, but the owner had recently replaced with a flat VGA CRT when the original monitor died.

Other than the 360 dashboard being sideways, the setup is really smooth and once in game you don't really feel like your playing a console at all.

[CraftyMech]

I'm looking forward to getting started on a Dreamcast interface to an arcade cab using the KADE instead of a pad hack. Thinking about using a VGA CRT to run both DC and Xbox 360 Shmups in vertical mode.

KADE does 360 too?  Or do you mean that you want to use KADE for DC only?

If I remember right, I'll need a 360->ps2 adapter to get the KADE working with a 360. Kade guys chime in if I'm wrong about that.

[rablack97]

Assuming it's this thing.



9.00 on deal xtreme

EDIT: avoid the above, this is the correct one.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Palystation-PS2-to-Xbox-360-Game-Controller-Adapter-Converter-Cable-Cord-/231212663014?pt=US_Video_Game_Cables_Adapters&hash=item35d55940e6

[Generic Eric]

Assuming it's this thing.



9.00 on deal xtreme

LFTL?

[rablack97]

   have no idea what LFTL means...

[emphatic]

That adapter's not very good as it needs a wired original 360 controller hooked up at each boot of the console. Better to get one of these:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Game-Controller-USB-Adapter-Adaptor-Converter-for-PS2-to-XBOX360-/141271590097?pt=AU_Video_Game_Accessories&hash=item20e47164d1

I have one, and it works very well.

[degenatrons]

That adapter's not very good as it needs a wired original 360 controller hooked up at each boot of the console. Better to get one of these:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Game-Controller-USB-Adapter-Adaptor-Converter-for-PS2-to-XBOX360-/141271590097?pt=AU_Video_Game_Accessories&hash=item20e47164d1

I have one, and it works very well.

Agreed.  Far better results with this converter.  I haven't had any problems with mine. 
Avoid the other one.

[Generic Eric]

Link for the lazy

[rablack97]

Yep sorry guys, sharp confirmed this is the correct one.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Palystation-PS2-to-Xbox-360-Game-Controller-Adapter-Converter-Cable-Cord-/231212663014?pt=US_Video_Game_Cables_Adapters&hash=item35d55940e6

[Generic Eric]

Yep sorry guys, sharp confirmed this is the correct one.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Palystation-PS2-to-Xbox-360-Game-Controller-Adapter-Converter-Cable-Cord-/231212663014?pt=US_Video_Game_Cables_Adapters&hash=item35d55940e6

Huh...I've always used wireless controlls, I don't even know where I would put that?  And how do I connect the ps2 connector to my kade?

[degenatrons]

Huh...I've always used wireless controlls, I don't even know where I would put that?  And how do I connect the ps2 connector to my kade?

PSX wiring instructions at: http://kadevice.com/psx-wiring-playstation-1-and-2/

[emphatic]

Huh...I've always used wireless controlls, I don't even know where I would put that?

There's a small door on the front of the 360 with two USB ports behind it. Get yourself a PS2 extension cord and cut it in half and use that to solder to your KADE.

[rablack97]

Huh...I've always used wireless controlls, I don't even know where I would put that?

There's a small door on the front of the 360 with two USB ports behind it. Get yourself a PS2 extension cord and cut it in half and use that to solder to your KADE.

Or just connect the wires to the terminals on the expansion board, soldering isnt necessary if you got the kit. 

 

Just match up the PS2 diagram to the respective minimus pins, program the kade, and use the rest of the pins for your buttons and controls.

[rablack97]

double post

[Generic Eric]

It is almost too easy.

[CraftyMech]

When I saw the above photos I thought, "Hmm.. that looks familiar".

Turns out I have that adapter. I must have asked Sharpfork about the 360-Kade hookup at some point and ordered it off eBay.

Glad I have the right one!

[mike boss]

Along with my KADE, is this all I would need to hook up my KADE (with arcade controls) to my XBOX and begin playing ? Is it a more complex part ?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-type-A-Female-Socket-to-XBOX-Gamepad-Adapter-Controller-Converter-Cable-Cord-/301162394654?pt=US_Video_Game_Cables_Adapters&hash=item461ead741e

Picked up two KADE's a lil ways back...never did use them.
Going to do a 1 player bartop so I figure the KADE would be ideal.
Leaning towards installing an XBOX into the project as I think I have the parts needed to power the XBOX with a PC monitor. Just wanna make sure I have the correct XBOX control hook up

[sharpfork]

Mike boss- that is all you need.  Program the Kade as xbox encoder and you are good to go.

[rablack97]

Along with my KADE, is this all I would need to hook up my KADE (with arcade controls) to my XBOX and begin playing ? Is it a more complex part ?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-type-A-Female-Socket-to-XBOX-Gamepad-Adapter-Controller-Converter-Cable-Cord-/301162394654?pt=US_Video_Game_Cables_Adapters&hash=item461ead741e

Picked up two KADE's a lil ways back...never did use them.
Going to do a 1 player bartop so I figure the KADE would be ideal.
Leaning towards installing an XBOX into the project as I think I have the parts needed to power the XBOX with a PC monitor. Just wanna make sure I have the correct XBOX control hook up

Yep that's the correct cord man.

I use these things for all my xbox builds for xbox to pc monitor

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CGA-EGA-YUV-RGB-to-VGA-Arcade-game-video-Converter-Genuine-Gonbes-Model-GBS8200-/331205791820?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d1d67504c

[mike boss]

Thanks guys, that was all the info I need.
I'll order up one of them XBOX wires.
I have a spare RGB to VGA adapter which is awesome.
I'll just order the XBOX component wires from eBay.
I should be able to get one easily off eBay, that should plug right into the RGB/VGA adapter.
I think I'm set !

[mike boss]

Thanks again guys for the info.
I think I have one of the needed XBOX wires in my basement, same  for the video adapter.
Now time to go to the basement and look................next issue tackle sound and an external power button.
Homework time!!!!! (I don't want to take away from the intended purpose of the thread)

thank you

[yotsuya]

Oh KADE firmware, you are the bees knees, the pinnacle of awesomeness, etc....

The keyboard hack I had in my jukebox to run the ESC button and the Coinup has been acting wonky, so last night I ripped it out and got one of the AVRs I had on hand. I fired up the software, programmed it so that A01 was Keypress 5, A02 was ESC, wired it up, made a hole in the plastic cover that Xconsoles shipped with them, ran the wires through, spliced it into the existing jukebox wiring, and started it up... perfection. Thanks, KADE Team!

[sharpfork]

Yotsuya
And if you need it to do something different for another project, you are good to go.  We are going to be expanding our offering with a kickstarter on April 30th.  In addition to the miniConsole+ product, we hope to build a stash of KADE theBrain wich will power a new class of miniArcade and other cool stuff.  We will always be open source and always try to allow the software to run on generally available hardware from companies like sparkfun, adafruit, and mattair.  We are going to run a Facebook contest starting on the 28th and will let the community review the rewards as well as win some super cool stuff!