What annoys Star Wars fans?

[BadMouth]

When I meet someone who is into Star Trek, I like to mess with them by constantly saying Star Track.

Star Wars fans seem more plentiful and more dedicated.
What can I do to annoy them?

[HaRuMaN]

Tell them Han Solo shot second.
Tell them you like JarJar.
Tell them Episodes 1-3 are your favorite.

[Vigo]

Ask George Lucas. He's perfected the art.

[lordnacho]

[krick]

George Lucas ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- all over my childhood memories.


Also, this...

Triumph the Dog @ Star Wars Attack of the Clones Premiere in NYC!

[lordnacho]

Everyone just get a copy of Harmy's Despecialized Edition.  After getting the episode 4 one, I won't watch anything else now.  Need to get the other episodes.

[BadMouth]

The comments pertaining to specifics would imply that I watched the movies more than once or that I give a crap. 



EDIT: Guess I'll just talk about how grateful they must be to have prequels and remakes. 

[BadMouth]

Also, this...

Triumph the Dog @ Star Wars Attack of the Clones Premiere in NYC!

That was good. 


The Star Wars builds (which are all awesome) currently at the top of the Project Announcements forum got me thinking about it.
It would be fun to do a Star Wars build with subtle things done wrong on purpose (artwork, incorrect quotes, etc).   
Already have more projects than I'll be able to finish this year though. 

[AtomSmasher]

Star Wars fans seem more plentiful and more dedicated.
What can I do to annoy them?

Bubba Feets was a horrible bounty hunter.

http://www.cracked.com/video_18433_everyones-favorite-star-wars-character-sucks-at-his-job.html

[BadMouth]

Bubba Feets was a horrible bounty hunter.

http://www.cracked.com/video_18433_everyones-favorite-star-wars-character-sucks-at-his-job.html

Wouldn't play on my work computer (something about cross-site scripts)
Here it is from youtube for anyone else in the same boat:


Hannianda Jones 

[ark_ader]

I had some guys at work that were into their "action figures" like on their desks.

They also sucked at their jobs.

They used to get geeked out when I told them I got cardboard action figures  when I was a kid at Christmas, as the Star Wars toys were not out yet.

Are those cardboard things worth anything now?

[Howard_Casto]

I always remind Star Wars fans that their beloved "franchise" is really just a mere trilogy of films with everything else being so mind-numbingly bad that fans refuse to admit it's existance, while Star Trek has made 8 films, an animated series, 4 spin-offs and over 700 episodes..... none of which are as complete an embarrassment as episode I.  That and the fact that it's a "main stream" franchise and thus you really aren't that nerdy/geeky if you are into it.

That'll do it.   

[Vigo]

That and the fact that it's a "main stream" franchise and thus you really aren't that nerdy/geeky if you are into it.

That'll do it.   

Telling a star wars fan that they are not a nerd for liking Star Wars really irks them? I don't think too many SW fans are looking to gain nerd cred.

[Turvey]

How about just saying to them  "Star Wars? Never heard of it. What is it?"

[jimfath]

"Star Wars was the "Go Bots" to the Star Trek's "transformers" Then duck. "

"Pretty sure Jaba ---fouled up beyond all recognition--- Leia. I see, so she was a slave but sex wasn't on the table, just sexy outfits for reason."

"Pretty much The Hero with a Thousand Faces rebooted."

If you're at a Comic Con and they are dressed up as characters ask them if they are from the movie "Heavy Metal" or some other ---smurfy--- movie

Han didn't even shoot. he was jerking off and his gun went off.

[lilshawn]

Luke, I am your father.

It's funny because he doesn't say it and purists get choked at it.

[Ginsu Victim]

If you're at a Comic Con and they are dressed up as characters ask them if they are from the movie "Heavy Metal" or some other ---smurfy--- movie

Did you just call "Heavy Metal" a ---smurfy--- movie?!? 

[lilshawn]

you don't watch "Heavy Metal" you EXPERIENCE it. 

[Le Chuck]

You: I liked the part where Paul rides the sandworms.

Them: That's not Star Wars dude

You: Oh, then ---fudgesicle--- off. 

[yotsuya]

As I've gotten older I've enjoyed Heavy Metal more, though it does depress me to hear John Candy's voice.  When I saw it at ~16 it was all "ZOMG! ANIMATED BUSH!" but I've grown to appreciate the nihilism with age.

 

 

I think I was 16 when I saw it as well.

[jimfath]

If you're at a Comic Con and they are dressed up as characters ask them if they are from the movie "Heavy Metal" or some other ---smurfy--- movie

Did you just call "Heavy Metal" a ---smurfy--- movie?!? 

And that's how you annoy Heavy Metal fans.   


For the record, no. not  ---smurfy---.

[Ginsu Victim]

When I saw it at ~16

I saw it in 1983 when I was 6.

[BadMouth]

The South Park parody of Heavy Metal was awesome. 
http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s12e03-major-boobage

[Malenko]

Tell them the inside body temperature of a Tauntaun is Luke warm.

[Le Chuck]

Tell them the inside body temperature of a Tauntaun is Luke warm.

Or that you've been lookin for love in Alderaan places.

[lilshawn]

Tell them the inside body temperature of a Tauntaun is Luke warm.

Or that you've been lookin for love in Alderaan places.

[wp34]

I always remind Star Wars fans that their beloved "franchise" is really just a mere trilogy of films with everything else being so mind-numbingly bad that fans refuse to admit it's existance, while Star Trek has made 8 films, an animated series, 4 spin-offs and over 700 episodes..... none of which are as complete an embarrassment as episode I.  That and the fact that it's a "main stream" franchise and thus you really aren't that nerdy/geeky if you are into it.

That'll do it.   

I'm a fan of both Star Trek and Star Wars.    Star Trek 5 blows big time.  Generations is pretty bad as well.  I'd say both are worse than Phantom Menace.

Meh Return of the Sith was pretty good

I liked Sith better than Jedi.  No Ewoks.

[lilshawn]

 i watched most of the first starwars.

i watched spaceballs many times, it's almost the same right?

[ark_ader]

If you're at a Comic Con and they are dressed up as characters ask them if they are from the movie "Heavy Metal" or some other ---smurfy--- movie

Did you just call "Heavy Metal" a ---smurfy--- movie?!? 

And that's how you annoy Heavy Metal fans.   


For the record, no. not  ---smurfy---.

Just watched it on Netflix.  John Candy was excellent in it.

Hmm What annoys star wars fans?

This might:

[Justin Z]

I'm a fan of both Star Trek and Star Wars.    Star Trek 5 blows big time.  Generations is pretty bad as well.  I'd say both are worse than Phantom Menace.
See if you can't find "Kirkless Generations" on the web.  It makes for a much better movie--almost like an extended episode from the series, and it's also a very impressive technical feat, cutting an entire arc out of a movie and still having it flow.

[shmokes]

Star Trek has made 8 films . . .

10 by my count. Unless, I suppose, you're only counting good ones or something.

[ChadTower]

I have never understood why people have to be into either Star Wars or Star Trek.  The rivalry thing is the most annoying aspect of both of them.

[lordnacho]

Cause nerds don't watch sports

[shmokes]

I have never understood why people have to be into either Star Wars or Star Trek.  The rivalry thing is the most annoying aspect of both of them.

I think there are a couple of different dynamics at play. First, Star Wars is totally mainstream. Almost every guy likes the original trilogy. Star Trek (and the people who like it), on the other hand, is ridiculed by the cool kids. But the people who watch it are like, "What's wrong with you people? Star Trek shares all of Star Wars's good qualities, but Star Trek is a smarter, superior franchise that more consistently turns out entertaining movies (not to mention hundreds upon hundreds of good TV episodes). How can you make fun of Star Trek in one breath and adore Star Wars in the next?" In other words, the Star Trek fan's Star Wars hate is more-or-less a defense mechanism.

The other thing, which is related to the first sort of, is that it's often not an either/or thing, but a comparative thing. Star Trek fans almost unanimously like Star Wars original trilogy. They may think Star Trek is better, but they still have a deep affection for Star Wars. It's only a very small minority of Star Trek fans who think that Star Wars is total garbage. The opposite isn't true, of course, but that may have to do with the stigma of Star Trek. Many people have no desire to give it a chance because it's so dorky. And, while Star Trek is great, the culture that has developed around it couldn't possibly be more embarrassing, so the stigma is sort of earned. But, at any rate, rather than an either/or thing, it's often more like a chocolate/vanilla thing. Just because you think chocolate is the best doesn't mean you don't like vanilla ice cream.

[BadMouth]

i watched most of the first starwars.

i watched spaceballs many times, it's almost the same right?

I'm about the same.  I'm 37 and just watched The Empire Strikes Back for the first time a few months ago.
It just happened to be on TV as I was flipping channels.  I didn't realize that I hadn't seen it until I watched it for a bit.   

I haven't seen any of the newer ones.  (don't watch many movies)

I'm sure I've seen spaceballs a couple dozen times.
Keep firing ---uvula--- !

[Malenko]

I couldnt get into the original star trek, it just a little too cheesy for me, a victim of the technology of when it was made (of course, the beaming up effect is still pretty neat). I actually liked ST:TNG for a while but I sorta fell out of love with it before it ended. I never really gave any of the other STs a chance, but I did enjoy the recent movie.


As far as Star Wars..... I think the thing with Star Wars is the idea of Star Wars is awesome. Force powers, light sabers, speeders, and all that ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---, its just so cool. But the execution isnt as great as the concept. I like the original trilogy, I dont love it, I dont think its the greatest thing ever, but its very entertaining. The prequels, meh, the biggest strike against them, other than Hayden Christensens "acting", is that you already knew how it was going to end the first time you watched it.

[wp34]

See if you can't find "Kirkless Generations" on the web.  It makes for a much better movie--almost like an extended episode from the series, and it's also a very impressive technical feat, cutting an entire arc out of a movie and still having it flow.

I don't mind Kirk in the movie it is what they did with Kirk in the movie that is not cool.  But I did like the Next Generation story line so that version might be interesting. 

And, while Star Trek is great, the culture that has developed around it couldn't possibly be more embarrassing, so the stigma is sort of earned.

Well put.  Although I've been pretty embarrassed by some of the geeks dressed up on opening night for Star Wars movies.  I only play lightsabers with my kids.

I did take my two oldest to the midnight showing of the last Harry Potter movie.  There were a number of high school kids there dressed up.  Somehow they didn't come off as weird as adults in Star Wars and Star Trek gear.

[Ginsu Victim]

I live in a small town, so when only ONE person dressed up as a full-on Klingon for Star Trek: Generations, it mostly received laughs.

[whammoed]

Everyone just get a copy of Harmy's Despecialized Edition.  After getting the episode 4 one, I won't watch anything else now.  Need to get the other episodes.

Yes, those are amazing.  I guess I've got them in BluRay format burned to DVD-DLs?  Go rather nicely into 2 disc DVD cases along with a copy of the cleaned up Christmas Special.

Got all three yesterday.  Been wanting something like this but just hadn't looked into it.
The .iso files would not play with vlc nor could I convert them with makemkv.   They also wouldn't play when I mounted them virtually.  Was able to burn one to DL DVD but would only play on a blu ray player and not on the pc that burned it.  Ended up finding .mkv files someone had converted which work great.  I will be destroying any other "original" versions I have. 

[lordnacho]

Whammoed, did you get his 2nd version ones?  Just saw he is releasing them now.  Didn't read what he changed though. 
Having trouble finding episodes 5 and 6 as one of the main sites just got taken down by DoS attacks.  If this isn't acceptable talk here could you pm me where you got them?

Yeah, I had to convert the first one with dvdfab(paid for) to mkv

[whammoed]

Whammoed, did you get his 2nd version ones?  Just saw he is releasing them now.  Didn't read what he changed though. 
Having trouble finding episodes 5 and 6 as one of the main sites just got taken down by DoS attacks.  If this isn't acceptable talk here could you pm me where you got them?

Yeah, I had to convert the first one with dvdfab(paid for) to mkv

I think they are the first version.  Not sure if I tried dvdfab, but I'm not sure if my copy is licensed for the format anyway.  I have an old paid for version that I don't use anymore.
PM me your email addy.

[lordnacho]

Sent.  Thanks

[Justin Z]

I don't mind Kirk in the movie it is what they did with Kirk in the movie that is not cool.  But I did like the Next Generation story line so that version might be interesting.

Totally agree--and that was exactly the "author's" reason for redoing it--he felt that Kirk deserved far better than he got.

[Vigo]

Yeah, agree about the Kirk deal. That was lame. That aside, I still never quite got the movie. They got sucked into some weird space dream ribbon or something that puts them in happy land where everything they dream up is all fake. Then wouldn't Picard and Kirk dreaming themselves into the past to stop Malcolm McDowell just be a false reality? For as much as Star Trek fans care about continuity, you the authors would write something that made sense.

[TOK]

I had some guys at work that were into their "action figures" like on their desks.

Call them dolls. Nothing kills coolness like the insinuation that you play with dolls. 

[Cakemeister]

Luke, I am your father.

It's funny because he doesn't say it and purists get choked at it.

VADER: If you only knew the power of the dark side. Obi-Wan never told
you what happened to your father.

LUKE: He told me enough! He told me you killed him.

VADER: No. I am your father.

           Shocked, Luke looks at Vader in utter disbelief.

LUKE: No. No. That's not true! That's impossible!

VADER: Search your feelings. You know it to be true.

LUKE: No! No! No!

[Zero_Hour]

I'm Guessing this might annoy a few....


bleh.

[AtomSmasher]

Luke, I am your father.

It's funny because he doesn't say it and purists get choked at it.

VADER: If you only knew the power of the dark side. Obi-Wan never told
you what happened to your father.

LUKE: He told me enough! He told me you killed him.

VADER: No. I am your father.

           Shocked, Luke looks at Vader in utter disbelief.

LUKE: No. No. That's not true! That's impossible!

VADER: Search your feelings. You know it to be true.

LUKE: No! No! No!

[trekking95]

I had some guys at work that were into their "action figures" like on their desks.

Call them dolls. Nothing kills coolness like the insinuation that you play with dolls. 

It may phase weak people but a true action figure collector won't let it get to them. They may even have a comeback for you!
And I hope no one here thinks that action figures are "dolls". Video games (most anyway) are for little kids when you think about it.

[shmokes]

And I hope no one here thinks that action figures are "dolls".

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and assume that trekking has a few of his own Star Wars dolls. That's cute. 

[trekking95]

And I hope no one here thinks that action figures are "dolls".

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and assume that trekking has a few of his own Star Wars dolls. That's cute. 

Read and thou shall learn the truth.....
http://actionfigures.about.com/od/gettingstarted/a/Action_Figure_Definition.htm

[Le Chuck]

Read and thou shall learn the truth.....

When using an archaic second person pronoun one should probably use the archaic second person verb.

Example:  Thou shalt acknowledge the 12" Star Wars Dolls

[lilshawn]

  there is a reason we don't use them any more.

[TOK]

As long as you're having fun with your dolls dude, nobody is here to judge.

[Le Chuck]

Seemed germane. 

[ChadTower]

No, no.  This is Jermaine.

[trekking95]

Read and thou shall learn the truth.....

When using an archaic second person pronoun one should probably use the archaic second person verb.

Example:  Thou shalt acknowledge the 12" Star Wars Dolls

Yeah well I don't talk that way in real life so I don't know how to type it right. It was a joke anyway....... 
And I don't collect 12" figures, but as long as you don't play tea party with them what's the difference? I know people that collect barbies and they aren't little girls anymore.

[lilshawn]

No, no.  This is Jermaine.

No,no. This is germane.



actually, it's quite irrelevant.

[shmokes]

I know people that collect barbies and they aren't little girls anymore.

Nobody's judging. Some men dress up in women's underthings. Some play with dolls. Don't ever let anyone make you stop being you.

[trekking95]

I mean some people collect the older, rarer barbies.

[shmokes]

Your Barbies are fine with me. They're fine with all of us.

[Rando]

I have never understood why people have to be into either Star Wars or Star Trek.  The rivalry thing is the most annoying aspect of both of them.

The only problem I have with Star Trek is that to actually be INTO Trek you have to watch like a dozen shows and 100's of hours of Television and movies.  To be into Star Wars you watch 2 good movies, 2 okay movies, and 2 bad movies.  Maybe play some video games.  It's way easier.

I like Trek, I just don't have the TIME for Trek.

[ChadTower]

I have never understood why people have to be into either Star Wars or Star Trek.  The rivalry thing is the most annoying aspect of both of them.

The only problem I have with Star Trek is that to actually be INTO Trek you have to watch like a dozen shows and 100's of hours of Television and movies.  To be into Star Wars you watch 2 good movies, 2 okay movies, and 2 bad movies.  Maybe play some video games.  It's way easier.

And read about 150 novels... and all the young adult books... and the comic series... and watch the TV show.


It's not any less time to really be into it.

[trekking95]

Your Barbies are fine with me. They're fine with all of us.

I never said I did, I said people do. I know people that do though.

And there is nothing wrong with collecting action figures. People collect model cars/planes/boats, etc. and no one says anything. It's a hobby, everyone has a hobby. And by hobby I mean properly displaying them on a shelf, like any collection should be.

Anyway, older people are the biggest collectors!!

Action figures are not just for kids!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[shmokes]

trekking95 . . . can't you see that I'm on your side? You play with Barbies and other dolls. And that's 100% your right. We live in America, where a person should be free to pursue their hobbies, no matter how embarrassing.

[Le Chuck]

Americans playing with dollies is perfectly acceptable but perhaps our brothers in the great white north are not as liberated. Closet doll playing is likely commonplace.

[lilshawn]

"Great white north" people play with snow in their igloos doncha know.


erm...

EH!

[trekking95]

trekking95 . . . can't you see that I'm on your side? You play with Barbies and other dolls. And that's 100% your right. We live in America, where a person should be free to pursue their hobbies, no matter how embarrassing.

You are missing the point, collectors don't play with their collection. People who collect model cars don't play with them, they display them. It's like having a nice little museum of stuff. That's not embarrassing, if done right people actually envy you.
Read this: http://actionfiguresbuff-jon.com/notold-collectactionfigures/

And it's not wrong to do it for the people that do, but stop with the barbie thing. We are talking about Star Wars related stuff here, incl. collecting their action figures.

Actually I know lots of people up here in Canada that have collections, and they have all types of things. Figures, toys stamps, dolls, model cars/planes, etc. You name it, they have it.  And people up here don't hide their collections from others, seems you US people do though. Being so ashamed of your barbies and all.

[shmokes]

You can't possibly be Canadian. Look how antagonistic you are! Here I am, embracing your perfectly legal choice to play with dolls well into adulthood, and you just keep throwing my friendly overtures in my face.

[trekking95]

You can't possibly be Canadian. Look how antagonistic you are! Here I am, embracing your perfectly legal choice to play with dolls well into adulthood, and you just keep throwing my friendly overtures in my face.

You know what I am saying about the difference between collecting and playing, Eh. Or maybe you don't know what I mean, Eh. I think a 5 year old would understand the difference between collecting and playing with all the ways I explained it, but you just didn't want to see/hear the difference, Eh. 

Right now I would have to say you had a bad experience with collecting, maybe someone told you that you were too old for it and it shattered your self image, Eh. That bothers me that it happens to people like you, they can't enjoy collecting anymore, Eh. Well anyway just go search some stuff like adults who collect Star Wars (or any other line of) action figures and see how many there are, Eh. You will be surprised that they aren't all nerds who live in their mothers basement, Eh. 

Anyway I guess if it's not arcade or related it's too much for you members here to grasp, typical non-Canadians, Eh. I will be back when I need ideas for repairing leaf switches or making Atari to NES adapters, Eh. See ya all later, Eh!   

[shmokes]

 

I'm just giving you ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---. Sort of surprised I got away with it for so long. Until I sold it less than a year ago I had an enormous Pez Dispenser collection. I posted a bunch of pictures of it on this forum. I thought for sure someone was gonna blow my cover, lol. Still, stop playing with dolls.

[knave]

I thought for sure someone was gonna blow my cover,

Ha! I totally was going to suggest that he send you some Star Wars Pez dispensors to shut you up...

[trekking95]

I thought for sure someone was gonna blow my cover,

Ha! I totally was going to suggest that he send you some Star Wars Pez dispensors to shut you up...

Don't have any.........







...that I would sell, if you must know.

I'm just giving you ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---. Sort of surprised I got away with it for so long. Until I sold it less than a year ago I had an enormous Pez Dispenser collection. I posted a bunch of pictures of it on this forum. I thought for sure someone was gonna blow my cover, lol. Still, stop playing with dolls.

I knew what you were doing, but I was hoping that I would be wrong and you were really that ignorant.... that is to what I was saying. 

And what's wrong with Pez dispensers? How do you eat your Pez without them?  I feel bad you sold them though, why did you?

[shmokes]

Stopped being interested in them.

[trekking95]

Stopped being interested in them.

But you were when you started collecting or you wouldn't have bothered....never heard of that happening.
Or are you saying your wife (if you're a guy anyway) made you get rid of them? 

[shmokes]

Or are you saying your wife (if you're a guy anyway) made you get rid of them? 

My wife and I have been married ten years. Lived in sin for three years before that.

[trekking95]

Or are you saying your wife (if you're a guy anyway) made you get rid of them? 

My wife and I have been married ten years. Lived in sin for three years before that.

Married ten years, good for you!   
But besides having nothing to do with why you got rid of the Pez dispensers (if you would rather not say that's fine, but my comment about your wife making you do it is a joke anyway), why bother telling people about living in sin?

[ChadTower]

You can't possibly be Canadian. Look how antagonistic you are!

I am Canadian too.  Bet that wrecks the whole theory.

[shmokes]

But besides having nothing to do with why you got rid of the Pez dispensers (if you would rather not say that's fine, but my comment about your wife making you do it is a joke anyway), why bother telling people about living in sin?

The relevance is that if my wife were inclined to and able to make me get rid of my Pez Dispenser collection, it is unlikely that it would take her thirteen years to do so. The relevance of living in sin is that while we have technically been married for ten years, we've effectively been married for thirteen.

Here's the thread in which I discuss selling my collection.

[ChadTower]

What he really means is that they spent the whole first three years coveting their neighbors' goods.

[trekking95]

But besides having nothing to do with why you got rid of the Pez dispensers (if you would rather not say that's fine, but my comment about your wife making you do it is a joke anyway), why bother telling people about living in sin?

The relevance is that if my wife were inclined to and able to make me get rid of my Pez Dispenser collection, it is unlikely that it would take her thirteen years to do so. The relevance of living in sin is that while we have technically been married for ten years, we've effectively been married for thirteen.

Here's the thread in which I discuss selling my collection.

Technicalities are everything you know.  But why would someone who did it refer to it as "living in sin"? You couldn't have though it was sin or you likely wouldn't have done it. I guess it's just strange wording on your part.

And that was a impressive Pez collection you had there, too bad you sold it now. It would have been worth more later on, or you could have passed it along to your kids (if/when you have any).

[Le Chuck]

Your criticism is interesting. I too lived in sin and commonly used the term because it conveys our living arrangement while also conveying disdain for your narrow minded western concepts of morality as they relate to the opposite sex.

Why would his daughter want a Pez collection that doesn't mean anything to her father?  Also, most people collect for the pleasure of collecting rather financial gain.

[trekking95]

Your criticism is interesting. I too lived in sin and commonly used the term because it conveys our living arrangement while also conveying disdain for your narrow minded western concepts of morality as they relate to the opposite sex.

Why would his daughter want a Pez collection that doesn't mean anything to her father?  Also, most people collect for the pleasure of collecting rather financial gain.

It's not criticism, but for someone who does "live in sin" to call it one of the worse names makes no sense. Like if you lived in a house full of garbage. You could say "I just keep everything" or "I live in a pile of crap". You wouldn't call it the second one as it would make you feel like you are doing something wrong.

And how do I know he has a daughter?

[shmokes]

Maybe we had more to bargain with   

[Le Chuck]

Your criticism is interesting. I too lived in sin and commonly used the term because it conveys our living arrangement while also conveying disdain for your narrow minded western concepts of morality as they relate to the opposite sex.

Why would his daughter want a Pez collection that doesn't mean anything to her father?  Also, most people collect for the pleasure of collecting rather financial gain.

It's not criticism, but for someone who does "live in sin" to call it one of the worse names makes no sense. Like if you lived in a house full of garbage. You could say "I just keep everything" or "I live in a pile of crap". You wouldn't call it the second one as it would make you feel like you are doing something wrong.

And how do I know he has a daughter?

I always do some amount of background reading about anyone that I'm going to call out for a turn of phrase, with Shmokes there is a prodigious amount available. You can glean a lot, just like I have gleaned that you enjoy being from Canukistan, have a certain amount of righteous pride in your chosen faith, and play with dolls. 

And there is absolutely nothing wrong with any of that except the last part.   

[trekking95]

Your criticism is interesting. I too lived in sin and commonly used the term because it conveys our living arrangement while also conveying disdain for your narrow minded western concepts of morality as they relate to the opposite sex.

Why would his daughter want a Pez collection that doesn't mean anything to her father?  Also, most people collect for the pleasure of collecting rather financial gain.

It's not criticism, but for someone who does "live in sin" to call it one of the worse names makes no sense. Like if you lived in a house full of garbage. You could say "I just keep everything" or "I live in a pile of crap". You wouldn't call it the second one as it would make you feel like you are doing something wrong.

And how do I know he has a daughter?

I always do some amount of background reading about anyone that I'm going to call out for a turn of phrase, with Shmokes there is a prodigious amount available. You can glean a lot, just like I have gleaned that you enjoy being from Canukistan, have a certain amount of righteous pride in your chosen faith, and play with dolls. 

And there is absolutely nothing wrong with any of that except the last part.   

So you're saying Shmokes did poorly word it?
And thanks for saying that there is noting wrong with the other two, they both came up in some forum once and I had to leave before they ran me off. But it was a known troll forum anyway so I took my chances.  *facepalm*
It's nice when members can get along even though they have different views on stuff, it's not common enough. 

[shmokes]

I too lived in sin and commonly used the term because it conveys our living arrangement while also conveying disdain for . . . narrow minded . . . concepts of morality

Read it over and over again.

Also: irony, irreverence, and general hilarity.

[trekking95]

I too lived in sin and commonly used the term because it conveys our living arrangement while also conveying disdain for . . . narrow minded . . . concepts of morality

Read it over and over again.

Also: irony, irreverence, and general hilarity.

I never said that was anything wrong with it, I just thought the wording you used was weird.

[shmokes]

It's our wording that we are attempting to explain to you. I'm not trying to justify all the awesome premarital sex I had. Le Chuck and I are telling you why we refer to it as "living in sin". My last post, including the quote from Le Chuck, captures it pretty well in very few words.

[trekking95]

No comment on that first bit.