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rCadeGaming:


--- Quote from: TalkingOctopus on August 08, 2012, 03:57:35 am ---I built my arcade 10 years ago with a Sharp 27" 27uf-500 TV.  It has component inputs, but does not support 480p.  I've used S-Video.  It looks OK, but I've always regretted not using an arcade monitor (I couldn't afford it at the time).
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If you were using the "S-Video Out" port from a PC, it's pretty certain that you were running everything scaled to 480i.


--- Quote from: TalkingOctopus on August 08, 2012, 03:57:35 am ---From this thread, it sounds like I can use the component transcoder along with Soft15kHz and Powerstrip to output actual arcade resolutions w/ progressive scan for low-res games.  I have a Radeon 7500, which Soft15kHz appears to support.  Did I read this correctly?
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Did you locate that card on this list to confirm that it's compatible with with Soft15kHz?  If so, then yes.


--- Quote from: TalkingOctopus on August 08, 2012, 03:57:35 am ---Instead of using Soft15kHz/Powerstrip, could you use the transcoder with ArcadeVGA to achieve the same results?
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Yes.  However, an ArcadeVGA is more expensive and less flexible, but it's probably more user friendly.


--- Quote from: TalkingOctopus on August 08, 2012, 03:57:35 am ---Final question: Since booting into Windows w/ the transcoder will use 480p, could this damage the TV?
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Once Soft15kHz is installed, Windows can run in 480i (which you'll want to run your front-end in), but yes, the bios screen and start-up screens will probably still be 480p though, until you get to the desktop. 

Most 15kHz CRT's won't be destroyed instantly by receiving a signal over 15kHz (480p for example), they just show a lot of garbage.  I've done this plenty of times while tinkering with things, but not for more than a few seconds.  Supposedly it can damage things if left on for too long, so I try to minimize the risk now.

It's best to just get things set up, and then not turn on the TV until Windows gets to the desktop.  In my cabinet I'm working on using a computer controlled relay wired into the TV's power switch that will turn on the TV automatically once the front-end is loaded.

I'm working on using a computer controlled relay that will turn the TV on automatically after the front-end has loaded.

rCadeGaming:

billcosby, you'll never guess what I got for free yesterday.  A KV24-FS100; wasn't even looking for one. 

I was at work, and a co-worker came back from a job with one and asked me if I wanted it.  It was like new, the customer just didn't want it because they'd upgraded to a flat panel.

Told you these things are common.  I've now got four of basically the same TV.  A 24", two 27"s, and a 32".

notbillcosby:

Nicely done! Next week when my company is no longer in town I should have an evening to see how mine looks...

TalkingOctopus:

I'm giving this a try as well. I picked up a KD-27FS170.  It looks like a newer version of the KD-27FS120.  It supports 480i and 1080i, however, no 480p.  Any experience with this set?

rCadeGaming:

I thought you must have been mistaken, I had never heard of a CRT that supports 1080i but not 480i.  I've also never heard of one that supports 1080i and is still a 4:3 tube.  However, the specs listed here seem to confirm this:

http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&partNumber=KD27FS170#specifications

This is really strange though.  Did you also look these specs up or have you tested it?  A PS3 would be a quick and easy way to test 480i, 480p, 720p, and 1080i individually.

I'd guess that if it displays 1080i, it will not actually display low res (15kHz progressive, ~240p) without upscaling it.  Try plugging in a Super Nintendo, and see what it looks like.  Look for scanlines, and share some close up pictures if you can.

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