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Rigby:


--- Quote from: rCadeGaming on July 09, 2013, 09:39:26 pm ---Rigby, sorry to be a dick,
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Then don't be.  If you're going to be a dick on purpose, I would ask you why, and what you hope to accomplish with that.


--- Quote from: rCadeGaming on July 09, 2013, 09:39:26 pm ---but this is completely false.  It is one of the big misconceptions that keeps people from understanding that a standard definition TV is a highly viable option for GENUINE classic arcade resolutions.  Please read through the thread before posting misinformation, and do not spread this around any further.
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I have no issues being wrong.  I learned a lot from your post despite the combative attitude.  If you're sorry to be a dick then don't be one in the first place.  It is easier to teach others, and easier for willing students to learn, by using a supportive tone rather than a spiteful one.

I'm aware that the NES and other consoles never displayed 480i, but I always assumed it was because they simply failed to draw the 2nd field of the picture (odd scanlines only, or even or whatever it is) not that they manhandled the signal enough to nearly fully ignore the NTSC standard.

I'd have thought it obvious why I falsely assumed this; NTSC and PAL are relatively close but we all know they are incompatible with one another.  480i and 576i are a lot closer to each other than 480i and 224p are, at least at first glance.

So anyway I learned a lot from you and I thank you.  If you're at all worried about my opinion of you, don't, but if you don't want to be a dick, then don't be one.  Sorry to say that three times but I want to make sure you and others know that I consider post language and tone to be fully under the post author's control.

rCadeGaming:

I felt that what I was saying was something that had to be said.  I wasn't just trying to "be a dick on purpose."   My main priority was to be very clear and direct, as I felt it was very important to prevent anyone else reading from taking your statement as fact, and prevent it from spreading any further.  That being said, I realized it may come off as harsh, which is why I said "sorry to be a dick."

What I meant was "sorry if this is harsh, but I feel it needs to be said." 

If I was at all spiteful I think it was because you'd jumped into the middle of a thread and posted harmful misinformation that you could have known is not true if you had read through the thread so far prior to posting; but I realize that it's a long thread and perhaps you didn't have the time just yet, it was a hasty reaction on my part.  Again, I apologize if I came off as a jerk.

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Jadder, I just noticed something, if Rastan runs in 320x240, why are you running it in 512x240?  That would either leave quite a lot of black space to the left and right, or result in uneven horizontal stretching if stretched to fit.

adder:


--- Quote from: rCadeGaming ---Jadder, I just noticed something, if Rastan runs in 320x240, why are you running it in 512x240?  That would either leave quite a lot of black space to the left and right, or result in uneven horizontal stretching if stretched to fit.

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no reason really, it just seemed to work ok so i left it alone, and i wasnt keen on setting up a large amount of modelines, so i figured if i have a high horizontal res amount, then all the '? x 240' games i play can share that one resolution. im quite fussy when it comes to scaling so if there was noticable stretching on the horizontal i would tackle that problem. if it's there, i cant see it (or havnt seen it so far anyway. to be honest i havnt played a huge amount of games so far though). the horizontal is my friend at the moment. it's the vertical which is my enemy ;)
i will try to source another tv

Rigby:


--- Quote from: rCadeGaming on July 10, 2013, 01:59:33 pm --- I realize that it's a long thread and perhaps you didn't have the time just yet, it was a hasty reaction on my part.  Again, I apologize if I came off as a jerk.

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No worries.  I fixed the post.

adder:

update:
i managed to try another tv, i dont believe it is a particularly good brand (ALBA) but it's all i have here at the moment

so my beko crt tv couldnt display more than 234 lines regardless of how much you pull in the vertical size in the tv service menu..
the ALBA tv, after i pulled in the vertical size in its service menu, can manage 243 visible lines. it might not sound like much of an improvement but it most definitely improves eg. seeing scores at the top of the screen or lives remaining at the bottom

im not sure i will actually stick with the alba tv though, as the picture quality is not quite what i hoped, the remote control only half works, the tv always comes on in standby mode, and the interlace mode i set up for displaying Windows desktop is rolling (ok i could fix that in powerstrip....)

well anyway, the search continues. gonna try other tv's and hope to get closer to 256 visible lines. freakin hope i can find a sony or panasonic crt tv :)

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