Author Topic: Would it be possible to add support to mp4 for video previews? (Read 12307 times)

Circo · « **on:** June 15, 2011, 10:37:25 am »

I am in the process of converting all the emumovies previews to the x.264 encoding format. Now if I rename the file from preview.mp4 to preview.avi it does work in Mala, but it would be a lot easier if it accepted the native .mp4 extension. Would it be possible to add mp4 support in the next version?

Circo · « **Reply #1 on:** June 15, 2011, 11:28:46 pm »

I guess i should go into detail as to why I am making this fundamental change

with the switch to x.264 I am able to cut the files sizes by more than half. AVI (XviD) has worked great for us but the time has come to catch up with the latest tech. Within a month or so I plan to drop AVI's pretty much completely and I would like to avoid confusion if at all possible. GameEx has added support for mp4 and tests are good. Like I said mala does work if you trick it by renaming the file but it does cause a slight delay while windows figures out the encoding.

So far I have only uploaded 1 set to the FTP for testing SNES, this is a new set and it's under official videos - mp4 on the ftp 480p size is at 1.8GB vs the older set which was 4.8GB. If anyone would like to help with testing it would be much appreciated.

loadman · « **Reply #2 on:** June 19, 2011, 12:06:09 am »

I think this is pretty easy as the Video Engine will decode many formats but MaLa is currently only looking for *.avi's at the moment. I can change it so if a *.avi does not exist then look for a *.mp4.

Can you post (or link) a few *.mp4 examples please for testing.

Thanks

[Later....]

Actually if you (and others) want to test yourself you can download the latest version of the stand alone video tester if you want?

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=107768.msg1143112#msg1143112

Anyway I think I have support for .mp4 now in the latest beta 1.745. I have not done much testing of it.

nick3092 · « **Reply #3 on:** June 19, 2011, 11:17:15 am »

I have an FTP account at EMU Movies and grabbed a few of the SNES videos out of the MP4/GameEx folder. I also installed the latest beta of MaLa. I can confirm they do now work - Sort of. It plays the MP4 fine the first time through. But if you leave it on the game, and it loops through to start the video again, you get no video, but the audio keeps playing.

One other observation I have is that it takes about twice as long for the video to start up when switching games versus the AVI files. Granted we are talking like maybe 1 to 1.5 seconds for an AVI to reload when changing games versus 2 to maybe 2.5 seconds for an MP4. And I don't know if that's just because it takes a little bit longer to start decoding the MP4 versus the AVI. But patience is not a virtue I was blessed with.

Either way, now is as good of time as any to say thanks to Circo and Loadman for continuing to support this hobby.

Circo · « **Reply #4 on:** June 19, 2011, 03:41:15 pm »

I noticed the same thing in Mala, not seeing that delay in other front ends. Does mala use external or internal codecs?

loadman · « **Reply #5 on:** June 19, 2011, 09:33:45 pm »

Quote from: Circo on June 19, 2011, 03:41:15 pm

I noticed the same thing in Mala, not seeing that delay in other front ends. Does mala use external or internal codecs?

I dunno. I use a Video wrapper. VideoGrabber. http://www.datastead.com/products/tvideograbber/

I will have to fire an email to them to ask why it behaves this way.

Can you send me or link an example of the 'same video' as an .avi and .mp4 I can send to them as an example of how it behaves differently please.

Circo · « **Reply #6 on:** June 20, 2011, 01:43:35 am »

Do you have a dropbox acct?

loadman · « **Reply #7 on:** June 20, 2011, 06:01:02 am »

Quote from: Circo on June 20, 2011, 01:43:35 am

Do you have a dropbox acct?

Yup. I will PM you details

loadman · « **Reply #8 on:** June 21, 2011, 07:08:30 am »

Email sent to Video Engine developer....

Let's hope he can fix support for .mp4 or tell me what I need to change in my code/config to make it work

Circo · « **Reply #9 on:** June 22, 2011, 10:37:29 am »

I'll hold off on fully dropping support for AVI's until they get this fixed for you, I'm still a ways out on my conversions being all complete. Here is a link as to our progress if anyone is intersted Announcement at EmuMovies

TheShanMan · « **Reply #10 on:** June 22, 2011, 03:03:09 pm »

Fixed link: http://emumovies.com/forums/index.php?/blog/1/entry-1-preparing-to-say-goodbye-to-avi-and-that-is-just-the-tip-of-the-iceberg/

Circo · « **Reply #11 on:** June 22, 2011, 03:08:36 pm »

Quote from: TheShanMan on June 22, 2011, 03:03:09 pm

Fixed link: http://emumovies.com/forums/index.php?/blog/1/entry-1-preparing-to-say-goodbye-to-avi-and-that-is-just-the-tip-of-the-iceberg/

Lol thanks, I fixed my post as well

nick3092 · « **Reply #12 on:** June 30, 2011, 08:07:02 pm »

Quote from: loadman on June 21, 2011, 07:08:30 am

Email sent to Video Engine developer....

Let's hope he can fix support for .mp4 or tell me what I need to change in my code/config to make it work

Just curious. Little over a week now. Have you heard back Loadman?

loadman · « **Reply #13 on:** July 01, 2011, 12:12:37 am »

Quote from: nick3092 on June 30, 2011, 08:07:02 pm

Quote from: loadman on June 21, 2011, 07:08:30 am
Email sent to Video Engine developer....

Let's hope he can fix support for .mp4 or tell me what I need to change in my code/config to make it work

Just curious. Little over a week now. Have you heard back Loadman?

Nothing

loadman · « **Reply #14 on:** July 09, 2011, 08:40:14 pm »

Quote from: loadman on July 01, 2011, 12:12:37 am

Quote from: nick3092 on June 30, 2011, 08:07:02 pm
Quote from: loadman on June 21, 2011, 07:08:30 am
Email sent to Video Engine developer....

Let's hope he can fix support for .mp4 or tell me what I need to change in my code/config to make it work

Just curious. Little over a week now. Have you heard back Loadman?

Nothing

I will email again.

FYI..this is a copy of original mail:

> Hi,
>
> There appears to be an issue with .mp4 video playback
>
> Of the .mp4's I have played from various sources .mp4's videos appear to:
> - Take significantly longer to load
> - When looped only audio plays on 2nd play
> - Can't be rotated
>
> The supplier of videos for my project is changing the format from .avi to .mp4 soon
>
> Please advise if this is a configuration error on my part or this is a bug.
>
> Thanks
>
> Simon
>
> An example video in .avi and .mp3 format can be found here (my website)
>
> http://www.malafe.net/files/download/Videos.zip

loadman · « **Reply #15 on:** July 10, 2011, 01:44:13 am »

ooooo That did it.

They just sent me a new Beta version to test...

I will post later with results

Circo · « **Reply #16 on:** July 10, 2011, 03:57:08 am »

The tension is just unbareable

crossing my fingers and my toes

loadman · « **Reply #17 on:** July 17, 2011, 06:07:06 am »

Quote from: Circo on July 10, 2011, 03:57:08 am

The tension is just unbareable crossing my fingers and my toes

Hmm Initial testing was not good but they are still working on it

Circo · « **Reply #18 on:** August 03, 2011, 10:02:18 pm »

Any updates?

loadman · « **Reply #19 on:** December 23, 2011, 06:19:39 pm »

Yup, New version early next year.

I just got a new job so Have not looked at MaLa for some time.

lettuce · « **Reply #20 on:** December 24, 2011, 04:52:34 am »

Any chance of adding an option to select what display you want mala to be displayed on or 2 display setup?

bigrck · « **Reply #21 on:** May 03, 2013, 08:08:47 pm »

Quote from: loadman on December 23, 2011, 06:19:39 pm

Yup, New version early next year.

I just got a new job so Have not looked at MaLa for some time.

Hello Loadman !

I just try the first 30 mame mp4 video from Emumovies with MALA 1.745 beta (19/6/2011).
And unfortunatly none of them have worked (nor with MaLaVideoTester)
The current emumovies mp4 codec is AVC (x264) + AAC.
Do you have any chance to try the 2012 version of Video Engine wrapper ?
I would love to have Mala work with Emumovies Mp4 witout conversion

Thanks in advance !
RCK

loadman · « **Reply #22 on:** May 04, 2013, 06:55:01 am »

YEah,

I will give it a whirl and see if it is any better

http://www.datastead.com/index.php?option=com_content&id=40

bigrck · « **Reply #23 on:** May 04, 2013, 01:06:26 pm »

Cool !

Here is the 1942.mp4 video file you will be able to test with the new version of the video player.
There was a lot of update since 2011, let's hope it will work better

Anyway, thanks for taking the time to reply and to test this

Mala & Emumovies users bless you

bigrck · « **Reply #24 on:** May 27, 2013, 04:57:47 am »

Quote from: loadman on May 04, 2013, 06:55:01 am

YEah,

I will give it a whirl and see if it is any better

http://www.datastead.com/index.php?option=com_content&id=40

Hello Loadman,
Any news of a new build with updated video player ?

We don't need any more feature, Mala is already fantastic.

Best regards,

loadman · « **Reply #25 on:** June 19, 2013, 11:04:07 pm »

Ha ha

My wife/life is eating my time :-)

Gray_Area · « **Reply #26 on:** June 20, 2013, 05:37:54 pm »

Quote from: loadman on June 19, 2013, 11:04:07 pm

Ha ha

My wife/life is eating my time :-)

Hey, as long as you eatin them, too.

bigrck · « **Reply #27 on:** June 21, 2013, 04:25:12 am »

Quote from: loadman on June 19, 2013, 11:04:07 pm

Ha ha

My wife/life is eating my time :-)

Héhé, I know what it is

Be aware, it will be worst with children

Anyway, if you find 2 hours to make a build with new video lib this summer, just post it here, thanks !

loadman · « **Reply #28 on:** June 21, 2013, 11:17:13 pm »

Hi

I just got mp4's to work 100% loading the following Codec Pack. The key ingredient seems to be ffdshow Video Decoder

http://download.cnet.com/Media-Player-Codec-Pack/3000-13632_4-10749065.html

Note: You will need to run the 'beta' version of MaLa.

http://www.malafe.net/files/download/MaLa1745.zip

Let us know how you go

bigrck · « **Reply #29 on:** June 22, 2013, 01:11:12 pm »

Woot ! Very good find

I work a bit more on this and in fact you only need two Filter:

1 - Haali Media Splitter (to read the container)
http://haali.su/mkv/

2 - ffdshow tryouts - 32-bit (1.3.4500) (to read the new mp4 codec)
http://ffdshow-tryout.sourceforge.net/download.php

A big thanks for finding it, at no need to make a new build

loadman · « **Reply #30 on:** June 22, 2013, 11:10:07 pm »

Thanks goodness for that.

I would have to pay more $$$ to get an updated video engine.

In the end it was just Codec dependence.


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