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Digital Pinball Disasters
H4CK3R:
Facts I have learned...
Xiaou2 talks out his ass, and until I see a Digital table from him, he'll continue talking out his ass....
Digital Pinball is not perfect, and its not mame... a Rom comes with the digital medium, thus making it alot easer to recreate. And currently you can not create a "Perfect" table even with a digital scan of the playfeild, because of two reasons..
1) LCD dimensions vs Playfeild dimensions.
2) VP in its current format can not recreate with 100% accuracy the angle in which it plays.
There are alot of dedicated people that are working to resolve this, and make it as close as they can get it. It will improve with time, and effort. I own 3 pins myself, 1 being a a digital pin. Guess what gets played more?
I understand the enjoyment watching others play games and come away with a different experience. Watching my nephew and niece play was priceless... And they begged me to build them one for thier home.
Kids Don't lie, or have pre-judgments
Charles
Enough said...
shilmover:
--- Quote from: H4CK3R on March 08, 2011, 12:48:08 pm ---Facts I have learned...
Xiaou2 talks out his ass, and until I see a Digital table from him, he'll continue talking out his ass....
Digital Pinball is not perfect, and its not mame... a Rom comes with the digital medium, thus making it alot easer to recreate. And currently you can not create a "Perfect" table even with a digital scan of the playfeild, because of two reasons..
1) LCD dimensions vs Playfeild dimensions.
2) VP in its current format can not recreate with 100% accuracy the angle in which it plays.
There are alot of dedicated people that are working to resolve this, and make it as close as they can get it. It will improve with time, and effort. I own 3 pins myself, 1 being a a digital pin. Guess what gets played more?
I understand the enjoyment watching others play games and come away with a different experience. Watching my nephew and niece play was priceless... And they begged me to build them one for thier home.
Kids Don't lie, or have pre-judgments
Charles
Enough said...
--- End quote ---
Well said, Charles.
BTW, see you in 2 weeks... :)
llars:
I don't like the Mame / VP comparison because with MAME you are dumping the ROM and emulating the hardware. With VP you are recreating artwork. That's a lot more complicated than emulating the hardware especially if you don't have good source material. If MAME rendered the full cabinet along with the CP and artwork accurately that would be a different story but that will never happen because that is a lot of work.
ChadTower:
I don't like the comparison because you're talking about copyrighted artwork being reproduced by hand in an alternate medium. Want it 100% dead on completely perfect? How about contacting the rights holders and getting a license to use it?
Note that I don't have any issue with the way it is being done now. I have issue with the bitching that it isn't good enough when we're talking about nonlicensed reproduction of copyrighted artwork.
kastawaykid:
I guess it is all up to personal preference whether you like it or not. Just like everything else in this world (Coke vs Pepsi, Ford vs Chevy).
I played alot of Pinball machines back in the early 80's. The bowling alley probably loved me, because it always seemed like I was the only one putting money in their pins. Never really liked any video games other than Tempest and Galaga.
Flash ahead twenty some years (2002) and I find Mame. So I build a cabinet and my friends and I start playing Mame and really enjoy it. The games may not be totally perfect, but are close. I love playing all the games from the past that I really did not enjoy playing in the arcade back in the days.
So after all these years I finally buy a house with a basement, I decide I want an arcade. So as a starter Pin, I purchase an old Alien Poker Pinball, just like I played back in the day at the bowling alley. Not the greatest thing, but something to work on and pass the time. Time goes on and I add a Whirlwind and Taxi machine to my collection. My basement is not the biggest, so I decide to look into Digital Pinball.
So last year at Pinball at the Zoo , I get the chance to play a Digital Pin. Talk to the owner and get really stoked, because he seems to have the "Hot" set-up (3 displays, and so on). So I finally get to play it and .... I was not really impressed. It just does not look or play like a pin would. I understand that alot of people put their own time and hard work into it (just like Mame), but it just is not my cup of tea. I really wanted to build one , but because of the experience I decide to buy more pins with the money instead.
Things may have really changed in about a year, but I just don't think that anyone can duplicate the feel and look of pinball. These are just my feelings and my opinions, so take them for what they are.
Kid
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