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Universal Gear Shifter support in MAME discussion
Xiaou2:
--- Quote ---you could also use the NC tab on the switch for the other position
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That would then change the way the game is preserved in mame, and more wiring as well.. but more importantly, I believe some shifters already use NC, which further complicates things.
Also remember that there are auto-center style shifters & throttles too. AfterburnerII uses a pot based throttle that is sprung to center (medium speed), and you can press forwards to go slower, and backwards for super speeds with the Afterburner boost.
It would also be nice to add another hack system... to be able to use a pure Analog Joystick style of shifter (IE: RaceDrivin), to control any digital shifter game... by translating the chosen coordinate (with slightly expanded range) to a specific gear state.
SavannahLion:
X, I was wondering when you would arrive.
BadMouth:
--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on January 20, 2011, 05:37:17 pm ---
--- Quote ---you could also use the NC tab on the switch for the other position
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That would then change the way the game is preserved in mame
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I was speaking about cases where someone had an original shifter that only had one switch, but wanted to play other games which had more switches in the shifter.
The game the shifter was originally used on would fall under option #1 and it would function in the same way as it did with the original board.
"1. Input behaves as original would, including the game going into a default gear or neutral when no gear switches are closed."
A "Cycle Gears" option would let someone with a one switch pole position shifter play games that had 4 speed shifters.
I'm not so sure the option is worth adding for as much hassle as it would be to do.
It may be better for people who want to play a wide variety of games to just use a different shifter.
--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on January 20, 2011, 05:37:17 pm ---Also remember that there are auto-center style shifters & throttles too. AfterburnerII uses a pot based throttle that is sprung to center (medium speed), and you can press forwards to go slower, and backwards for super speeds with the Afterburner boost.
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I'm going to add another page to the spreadsheet listing other games that had unique controls that aren't as usable in MAME as they should be.
I don't plan to gather any detail about them yet, just going to make a list of the names and drivers.
If you know of any others, make a list and post it.
There are also probably some omissions from my driving game list.
I noticed Road Blasters was missing. MAWS had it listed under shooters.
I'm sure there are others I've missed.
Xiaou2:
Got Ya. Sorry, but sometimes the way these things get worded confuses me.
--- Quote ---A "Cycle Gears" option would let someone with a one switch pole position shifter play games that had 4 speed shifters.
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I think that would be a nice option for playing a game that has many gears, if you didnt have a real shifter. It could cycle up to the top gear with one button, and down to the bottom gear with another button.
However, I dont see how you could cycle something like 4 gears with a single switch 2way shifter... even if you had it wired as 2 switches. IE: You would have to go up+down to get it to shift once... then up+ down for 2nd gear...etc. How would you downshift for a hard turn? (I supposed you could use a 2nd non-shifter button to reverse gear cycle direction? )
--- Quote ---I'm going to add another page to the spreadsheet listing other games that had unique controls that aren't as usable in MAME as they should be.
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Excellent :) Hope these will get resolved. True Mechanical Rotary support would rock.
--- Quote ---MAWS had it listed under shooters.
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Maws and all the other such lists are fairly Useless. I believe they are based off of the one mame uses to classify controllers. Inaccurate Crap. I also marvel in how many 'Historical' sites copy from it.
ugg. Such a sad state of historical butchery. Hopefully that will change before true Accurate Data is forever lost.
Haze:
--- Quote from: abaraba on January 15, 2011, 12:15:48 pm ---In pole position, when changing gear there comes a little window on the screen saying "HI" or "LO", which looks more like MAME user interface message than part of the game, am I dreaming?
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It is part of the user interface, yes, handled by the artwork system infact.
Again, it's one of those things that is designed to keep MAME easy to use on modern PC hardware.
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