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emphatic:

Thanks, but what's confusing to me is when I switch from my computer screen to my cabinet?

bitbytebit:


--- Quote from: emphatic on April 16, 2011, 03:09:46 pm ---Thanks, but what's confusing to me is when I switch from my computer screen to my cabinet?

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You mean like installing with a lcd connected and the plugging in the arcade monitor? For that I would recommend attaching the lcd to the output you won't use for the arcade monitor/15khz output.  The bootup menu choice you make, like vga-0 for example, is the only output that'll be 15khz.  The rest will be normal Vesa modes at 31khz or more.  After an install, you can change which output is the magic 15khz one though the video setup menu under the option for output freq.  I think after that and a reboot, you probably will need to run the monitor type setup again, now that I think about that it may be a bit tricky, but also changing the output for 15khz after install should really not be necessary except in rare situations since at install it can be chosen which will be which from the grub bootup choice.

emphatic:


--- Quote from: bitbytebit on April 16, 2011, 04:53:22 pm ---You mean like installing with a lcd connected and the plugging in the arcade monitor? For that I would recommend attaching the lcd to the output you won't use for the arcade monitor/15khz output.  The bootup menu choice you make, like vga-0 for example, is the only output that'll be 15khz.  The rest will be normal Vesa modes at 31khz or more.
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If there's only one VGA output (and it's a single adapter only) on the computer you're installing to, choosing vga-0 is the only option if you want to use a 15kHz monitor, correct?


--- Quote from: bitbytebit on April 16, 2011, 04:53:22 pm ---After an install, you can change which output is the magic 15khz one though the video setup menu under the option for output freq.
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This is what I want to hear. Now, can I see that menu on the computer monitor, or will I have to connect the arcade monitor at this time already? I don't like to assume things when using a computer with my precious arcade monitors.


--- Quote from: bitbytebit on April 16, 2011, 04:53:22 pm ---I think after that and a reboot, you probably will need to run the monitor type setup again, now that I think about that it may be a bit tricky, but also changing the output for 15khz after install should really not be necessary except in rare situations since at install it can be chosen which will be which from the grub bootup choice.

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So, when the computer boots up to show the grub menu, does it come up in all scenarios, or just when running the Live CD? Thanks for explaining stuff, I won't mind writing up a dummy guide for you if I get everything up and running.

bitbytebit:


--- Quote from: emphatic on April 16, 2011, 05:55:06 pm ---
--- Quote from: bitbytebit on April 16, 2011, 04:53:22 pm ---You mean like installing with a lcd connected and the plugging in the arcade monitor? For that I would recommend attaching the lcd to the output you won't use for the arcade monitor/15khz output.  The bootup menu choice you make, like vga-0 for example, is the only output that'll be 15khz.  The rest will be normal Vesa modes at 31khz or more.
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If there's only one VGA output (and it's a single adapter only) on the computer you're installing to, choosing vga-0 is the only option if you want to use a 15kHz monitor, correct?


--- Quote from: bitbytebit on April 16, 2011, 04:53:22 pm ---After an install, you can change which output is the magic 15khz one though the video setup menu under the option for output freq.
--- End quote ---

This is what I want to hear. Now, can I see that menu on the computer monitor, or will I have to connect the arcade monitor at this time already? I don't like to assume things when using a computer with my precious arcade monitors.


--- Quote from: bitbytebit on April 16, 2011, 04:53:22 pm ---I think after that and a reboot, you probably will need to run the monitor type setup again, now that I think about that it may be a bit tricky, but also changing the output for 15khz after install should really not be necessary except in rare situations since at install it can be chosen which will be which from the grub bootup choice.

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So, when the computer boots up to show the grub menu, does it come up in all scenarios, or just when running the Live CD? Thanks for explaining stuff, I won't mind writing up a dummy guide for you if I get everything up and running.

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Ah for one output (what kind of card is it?) you really then would need to pick the SVGA/VGA monitor type on the grub menu to install, and then do the after installation method of switching output to be 15khz.  When you change the output to 15khz vga-0, it's only 15khz after a reboot, so you'll want to wait till you change it in the menu and then halt the system then change monitors and reboot.  I'd actually leave it connected to the LCD monitor/VGA monitor until full reboot and check the screen and see that it's really 15khz (or doesn't output to the monitor), if you want to be extra careful, then can turn off monitor/connect arcade monitor/turn it on.

The grub menu only comes up with the LiveCD, the installation puts one on that's only got the main entry and from then on the setup menu changes that entry to whatever type of output you choose it to use. 

That would be great, really wonderful to have help with documentation, since I definitely am not the best at that part of things :).

emphatic:


--- Quote from: bitbytebit on April 16, 2011, 09:03:38 pm ---Ah for one output (what kind of card is it?) you really then would need to pick the SVGA/VGA monitor type on the grub menu to install, and then do the after installation method of switching output to be 15khz.  When you change the output to 15khz vga-0, it's only 15khz after a reboot, so you'll want to wait till you change it in the menu and then halt the system then change monitors and reboot.  I'd actually leave it connected to the LCD monitor/VGA monitor until full reboot and check the screen and see that it's really 15khz (or doesn't output to the monitor), if you want to be extra careful, then can turn off monitor/connect arcade monitor/turn it on.
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It's an onboard Intel graphics adapter.

Thanks for the info. Whenever I start installing to my PC I'll take notes and make a comprehensive document that can be pasted into the first post (for us noobs). I think you will have lots more people converting to this if it's easy to review before "taking the leap" from an easy setup (XP, Win7) to Linux (easy as well, but the whole hardware aspect can be confusing).

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