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New Wells-Gardner D9200 Monitor Review
RandyT:
--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on August 08, 2003, 11:41:01 pm --- Are you shure about that? Maybe this tv has higher resolution than older models? Theres definitely tv monitor hybrids that do - so this may be the case.
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If it's NTSC or PAL video standard, which it is when using composite or Svideo inputs, then it is interlaced. It's part of the standard.
--- Quote --- Weather or not the Ati knows this - and or auto interlaces is another story. All I can say is that even at 1024*768 with flicker off - its a rock solid picture. No jitter, flicker, dot crawl, jumpiness...ect.
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It's still interlaced and scaled at 1024x768. Some of the newer graphics cards can do some tricks to reduce flicker and make text more readable, but they trade off other desireable attributes like sharpness and color accuracy to do so.
--- Quote ---As for display technology... I believe that most older arcade monitors have been replaced with newer versions that preform differently.
Also... I find it hard to belive that monitors havnt changed in dot pitch much from say Pacman to the present..IE: 9200s. Maybe we are taking the difference betweem Low res monitors and med to high-res. In such a case... using a med res monitor instead of a low-res monitor would definitly change the look of the game.
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As I stated, the shape of the pixels may be a bit different, but the size and amount of space between them has remained fairly consistent. A .83 dot pitch is mucho coarse compared to the standard .25 (or better) of a PC monitor. Also keep in mind that these numbers usually go up relative to overall screen size.
--- Quote --- Id like to see someone pop a picture of turbo out of a 9200 that looks anywhere close to the cololrs and look of the one in the pic I posted. The pic will most likely be too clean and wont blend the pixels and colors correctly.
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No offense, but that monitor looks to be a "hurting unit". If that thing is as old as I think it is, it's not really a fair comparison with a fresh out of the box unit. I spent a ton of cash on Turbo in my youth and never remembered it looking like that :). Also, keep in mind that you are looking at a vertically oriented game. Showing this one horizontally and trying to compare the two isn't going to cut it.
RandyT
KevSteele:
Okay, I know I promised some pics of Spy Hunter on the D9200, but I got busy, and the god of delayed promises has smote me down:
My D9200 monitor has died. It looks to be a bad board, and I'll do my best to get those pics up once I've got the new board set installed, but it won't be for a week or so.
You know you're got too much emotionally invested in your hobby when an equipment failure ruins your day... :'(
(Sigh...)
Kevin
CitznFish:
--- Quote from: kevsteele on August 11, 2003, 05:52:30 pm ---Okay, I know I promised some pics of Spy Hunter on the D9200, but I got busy, and the god of delayed promises has smote me down:
My D9200 monitor has died. It looks to be a bad board, and I'll do my best to get those pics up once I've got the new board set installed, but it won't be for a week or so.
You know you're got too much emotionally invested in your hobby when an equipment failure ruins your day... :'(
(Sigh...)
Kevin
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Does this affect your opinion/review?
desmatic:
There is a snap shot of spyhunter on a D9200 on my website.
--- Quote --- I think people mis-read into the whole "authentic' thing... as most older arcade games will never look correct on a 9200. The reason being a much smaller dot pitch... (and Im sure there are other factors as well with the older display technology they use)
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The scanline of the D9200 changes when going from 15kHz to 25kHz. At 15kHz, the pixel size is identical to traditional 15kHz arcade monitors. At 25kHz, the pixel size is identical to traditional 25kHz arcade monitors.
The pixel size of MAME games on a TV (480 interlaced) is identical to the pixel size of MAME on a D9200 at 31.5 kHz. The only difference between the two displays is the refresh rate, otherwise they are identical.
The pixel size of MAME on a TV at 15kHz (not interlaced) is identical to the pixel size of MAME on a D9200 at 15kHz.
KevSteele:
--- Quote from: CitznFish on August 11, 2003, 06:45:06 pm ---Does this affect your opinion/review?
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Yup, at least a little. I'm going to wait until I get the replacement boards and see how it goes.
Bad: Monitor board went bad.
Good: No wait for tech support, very helpful, and (hopefully) quick turnaround.
I'll update the monitor review once the matter's all settled.
Kevin
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