Arcade Collecting > Pinball
STERN vs. WMS Industries... Let's have it out.
Q*Bert_OP:
--- Quote from: shardian on June 07, 2010, 08:33:39 pm ---
--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on June 07, 2010, 08:11:35 pm ---
Or maybe your ears are in rough shape... unable to hear the difference between
a $120 headphone, and a $20 headphone. Sterns sound muffled, and flat. No dynamic
range at all. (not to mention, they are Mono)
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Well I just don't know what to tell ya, good buddy. I had this one right next to a Bally Williams WPC game that is well known for excellent audio (Whodunnit). I would switch off from one to the other. Pirates sound was definitely on-par with whodunnit.
Thanks for being generally rude and belligerent though. :notworthy:
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And WMS games are stereo? Data East was the first and only company until WMS made pin2000 to use stereo sound, starting with Secret Service.
shardian:
Mono is pretty standard, but there is some simulated stereo on many pins it seems. The match sequence on Pirates is extremely spatial. Very cool audio at that point. From what I understand the SAM board is mono, but is capable of stereo in a pinch or for special circumstances.
pinballwizard79:
I so freakin have it made. There is a guy in my town that is a total fanatic (I mean hell the dude has two MM's for crying out loud) who lets the public play his bad ass collection twice a month. This means I am exposed to a lot of machines...hell it sure feels like I have played every game ever made. I went to the PHOF & thought I was back home lol.
My ownership experience is more DE than WMS so I will comment most on DE.
1. Newer WMS seem very smooth (TOM, CC & TOTAN play like butter) & are well built. Too bad they are overrated, over priced & a ---smurfette--- to keep up (Ahem... STTNG cannons/switches, IJ path & TZ everything).
2. Sterns are the fastest most shiny colorful & brightest devices I have ever played + they have awesome long play times & the deepest rules. Too bad the art totally sucks wolf man nards & they do feel like more toy than machine to me.
3. "Gottelib? Who? Oh the old pinball machines right?" Yeah, I always feel like they were better with their classics. The 90's stuff was overbuilt, plain & had poorly executed art/finishes IMO.
4. Data East are usually simple to work on & in my experience they dont break often, they are a great value for the money, have very recognizable licenses & no matter how dirty they get you know damn well that playfield will polish up nice because in the factory it was sprayed with 4 coats of bad ass. Sigh, too bad they do indeed feel clunky & dont have the smoothness or build quality of a WMS. Since they fail to fetch a lot of money with buyers they in return fail to receive the pampered shop & restoration like other machines which I think further perpetuates a "ho hum" reaction when played. Its hard to get excited with a dirty hack repaired LAH with a random Bullwinkle plastic on it after playing a glistening 401k taker like a restored TZ, know what I mean?
5. They are all fun so just buy 10 of each, I seriously want almost every machine ever made. As a kid the lights, sounds, art & moving parts captivated me first. As a teenager I wanted a loft packed with machines (arcades/pins) & there was a definite desire for the notoriety & of course fun of having the stuff of Silver Spoons in my own home. When I hit my 20's I finally learned how pinball works, like the modes, jackpots & etc....then I was really hooked.
Thats all I got, as you were.
shardian:
I have something to add:
Today I had the mis-pleasure of doing an LED conversion on an Elvis today. Dude...those insert holders on the Whitestar games are CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Holy ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- dude, I'm gonna have to go over again another day just to hot glue a ton of the lamps in place...
I swear dude, you even look at one of those insert holders funny and they will pop out. Combine that with the crappy 555 housings on those LED's, and you have a nightmare situation. My Stern opinion got bumped down more than a bit today...
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