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Title: Watchmen
Post by: danny_galaga on March 05, 2009, 05:43:53 am
Just saw this with a friend at the cinema. I dont know what to say except that it was awesome! i havent read the graphic novel so i cant compare or be disappointed. The style was very 'graphic novel', i think it was translated well in that sense. Some scary moments for my female friend to hold me tight (note to self: take her to some thrillers).

The violence was very graphic for this movie genre, and there is even full frontal male nudity. Granted, it was Dr Manhatten. But still...

I'm not really familiar with any of the actors that starred, but they all did well. But especially the guy who played Rorshak. Incidentally, i just ordered a book called 'Hey, it's that guy!', which is a reference guide to all those character actors you see but can never remember the name of...

Maybe 2/3 to 3/4 it dragged a little which chops the top off a perfect score from me. My friend didn't like the ending, but i did. So that could be a contentious issue for some.

4.5/5


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my score for recent movies you may have seen:

  5/5 - Michael Clayton, In Bruges, Gran Torino

4.5/5 - Taken, Iron Man, Reign Over Me

  4/5 - Traitor, Bedtime Stories, Sunshine, pineapple express

3.5/5 - 300, Max Payne, You dont mess with the Zohan, Yes Man

  3/5 - That new Indiana Jones flick, Disturbia, That new TMNT flick,

2.5/5 - The Love Guru. Note: My 2.5 is probably someone elses 1. Just leaving room for worse!

Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: Ed_McCarron on March 05, 2009, 07:33:12 am
The owlship did not have chainguns.
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: Cakemeister on March 05, 2009, 07:50:30 am
This is a must-see, I've been looking forward to it for months. I read the comic books when they came out back when I was in college.

Of course, there have been other movies based on works of fiction I loved, such as The Dogs of War and Battlefield Earth, that have disappointed.
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: shardian on March 05, 2009, 08:11:20 am
I have to say from the previews that this movie has visual cinematography quality off the charts. I would be curious to see how good the story is though. It is supposed to be faithful to the book, but with a different ending. I never read the book, or even heard of it until the movie started getting buzz a few years back.
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: Dartful Dodger on March 05, 2009, 12:40:47 pm
Just saw this with a friend at the cinema. I dont know what to say except that it was awesome! i havent read the graphic novel so i cant compare or be disappointed.

Excellent!!!

It looks like a good movie, but the reviews I've read said if you didn't read the comix you'll be frustrated with the movie, so I lost interest in seeing it.
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: sirwoogie on March 05, 2009, 01:51:23 pm
I'm looking forward to going. It's long, and 300-esque, so that might be lost on some people. But, that translates beautifully to this type of comic. I'll probably see it on imax to so that should be fun.
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: patrickl on March 05, 2009, 03:48:10 pm
Oh crap, I was offered free tickets for the premiere, but the name didn't ring a bell and I wasn't too keen on another comic movie.  Guess I got that one wrong :banghead:
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: WunderCade on March 05, 2009, 10:38:23 pm
This is a must-see, I've been looking forward to it for months. I read the comic books when they came out back when I was in college.

Of course, there have been other movies based on works of fiction I loved, such as The Dogs of War and Battlefield Earth, that have disappointed.


After seeing the previews on TV, I immediately thought....HEROES rip off.
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: AtomSmasher on March 05, 2009, 11:02:08 pm
Saturday Morning Watchmen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDDHHrt6l4w
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: shardian on March 06, 2009, 12:43:26 am
After seeing the previews on TV, I immediately thought....HEROES rip off.

...I surely hope that was tongue in cheek, because that is HILARIOUS! Heroes is a poor rip-off of Rising Stars. Rising Stars is kind of a rip-off of Watchmen.

Seriously, Heroes is the WORST show on Television. I think I would rather watch Knight Rider.
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: danny_galaga on March 06, 2009, 01:54:14 am

well, i'm no genius, but i can tell you i enjoyed the movie without knowing anything about Watchmen. Not frustrated at all. I'm kinda enjoying these lesser known super hero movies. Bring on Shazzam! and Aquaman  ;D
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: TelcoLou on March 06, 2009, 11:46:58 pm
Bring on Shazzam! and Aquaman  ;D

(It was Captain Marval .. he said shazzam when he needed to change) </geek>
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: drventure on March 07, 2009, 12:35:48 am
Saw it today. Have to say, it's pretty dang good. Definitely not your average super hero movie (or story for that matter).

What was really scary, though was coming out of the theater and seeing a LONGGGG line of people with what had to be 4-6 year olds in tow.

This is +most+ definitely NOT a kid movie.  :soapbox:
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: Ginsu Victim on March 07, 2009, 01:51:04 am
What was really scary, though was coming out of the theater and seeing a LONGGGG line of people with what had to be 4-6 year olds in tow.

This is +most+ definitely NOT a kid movie.  :soapbox:

Yeah, because do you really think a kindergartner will understand when the guy two rows in front of you starts ranting and raving, "This is where the squid should've been!!!"?
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: mr.Curmudgeon on March 07, 2009, 12:28:33 pm
After seeing the previews on TV, I immediately thought....HEROES rip off.

 :dizzy:

I see your research skills know no bounds.


...I surely hope that was tongue in cheek, because that is HILARIOUS!

It's not. He puts this much thought into everything he posts. And it is hilarious.  :laugh2:
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: FrizzleFried on March 07, 2009, 01:43:25 pm
After seeing the previews on TV, I immediately thought....HEROES rip off.

...I surely hope that was tongue in cheek, because that is HILARIOUS! Heroes is a poor rip-off of Rising Stars. Rising Stars is kind of a rip-off of Watchmen.

Seriously, Heroes is the WORST show on Television. I think I would rather watch Knight Rider.

Boo... Heroes is a decent show... LOST... now that is one massive floating turd.

Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: FrizzleFried on March 07, 2009, 01:47:53 pm
Bring on Shazzam! and Aquaman  ;D

(It was Captain Marval .. he said shazzam when he needed to change) </geek>

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DC has instead used the trademark Shazam! as the title of their comic books and thus the name under which they market and promote the character. Consequently, Captain Marvel himself is sometimes erroneously referred to as Shazam.

Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: Cakemeister on March 07, 2009, 04:35:31 pm
I saw the movie today on Imax. Movie: awesome, IMAX: meh. I spent a freaking fortune for just two people ($50)

No wonder I wait for everything to go to the $1.50 theater.

Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: danny_galaga on March 08, 2009, 01:10:16 am
Bring on Shazzam! and Aquaman  ;D

(It was Captain Marval .. he said shazzam when he needed to change) </geek>

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DC has instead used the trademark Shazam! as the title of their comic books and thus the name under which they market and promote the character. Consequently, Captain Marvel himself is sometimes erroneously referred to as Shazam.



yep, just looked up wiki myself. seems the comic books i was reading was called shazam. so i was right, and wrong. the movie would probably be called Shazam...
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: wp34 on March 08, 2009, 03:16:44 pm

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Yeah, because do you really think a kindergartner will understand when the guy two rows in front of you starts ranting and raving, "This is where the squid should've been!!!"?

 :laugh2:
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: TelcoLou on March 08, 2009, 04:11:28 pm
Bring on Shazzam! and Aquaman  ;D

(It was Captain Marval .. he said shazzam when he needed to change) </geek>

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DC has instead used the trademark Shazam! as the title of their comic books and thus the name under which they market and promote the character. Consequently, Captain Marvel himself is sometimes erroneously referred to as Shazam.



yep, just looked up wiki myself. seems the comic books i was reading was called shazam. so i was right, and wrong. the movie would probably be called Shazam...

I was going by the cheesy '70's live action show. I never read the comic books  8)
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: shardian on March 09, 2009, 08:15:58 am
Boo... Heroes is a decent show... LOST... now that is one massive floating turd.



I have to assume that you don't watch Heroes anymore. Even my wife thinks the show sucks now - and that is saying something!
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: Ginsu Victim on March 09, 2009, 10:38:02 am
Hmm, everyone I've talked to lately has agreed with me that the current crop of Heroes episodes have been great. The season had a big lull just after it started, but the fugitives storyline has been pretty good.

Back on topic, we went Saturday night to see Watchmen and we loved it. I was shocked to see it condensed down in a way I could be happy with. Jackie Earle Haley was the perfect Rorschach.
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: RayB on March 09, 2009, 11:55:07 am
To those who have seen it:
Other than a blue shlong, is there anything else *really* objectionable, you wouldn't bring a 16 year old to see?
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: Jeff AMN on March 09, 2009, 12:02:30 pm
I saw it over the weekend and thought it was excellent. I almost want to go around punching the fanboy nerds in the mouth for criticizing some of the most minute details, because they're missing the point. These guys did an EXCELLENT job brining the comic to life, and they were extremely faithful to the characters in the process. Many lines they left untouched (thank goodness), and they did a killer job with wardrobe and special effects.

Obviously some concessions had to be made for time restraints, but I bet a director's cut video release will help to put in some of the smaller scenes that had to be left out. I hope some of the newsstand conversations get put back in.

And Frizz, you're downright insane if you claim that Heroes is even half as good as Lost. INSANE!!!
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: Ginsu Victim on March 09, 2009, 12:25:24 pm
To those who have seen it:
Other than a blue shlong, is there anything else *really* objectionable, you wouldn't bring a 16 year old to see?


The sex scene might make you uncomfortable in that company, but there's nothing more than T and A shown. The scene is very out of place in the movie. It was only hinted at in the book, but they linger on it for a bit too long here.
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: ChadTower on March 09, 2009, 12:46:48 pm

Haven't seen this yet, but really at 16, the content limits should be off.  That kid has seen more schlongs in the last month than all of us combined.
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: Jeff AMN on March 09, 2009, 01:22:05 pm
To those who have seen it:
Other than a blue shlong, is there anything else *really* objectionable, you wouldn't bring a 16 year old to see?


The sex scene might make you uncomfortable in that company, but there's nothing more than T and A shown. The scene is very out of place in the movie. It was only hinted at in the book, but they linger on it for a bit too long here.

The sex scene is way overdone. It felt kinda pornographic to me as it shows them switching up positions and really getting raw with it. I didn't care for the scene, now matter how blasted hot Malin Ackerman might be.

The violence is pretty rough, but I would wager that most 16 year olds could handle it just fine.
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: SNAAKE on March 09, 2009, 01:24:06 pm
meh I wouldnt worry. 16  year olds see more schlongs than you think and the sex scenes arent overly graphic either.

never heard of watchmen but saw it in imax last friday and thought it was really good. cant say anything bad about it.
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: Ginsu Victim on March 09, 2009, 01:52:01 pm
never heard of watchmen but saw it in imax last friday and thought it was really good. cant say anything bad about it.

These are the opinions I care about most. My wife knew nothing about it, and enjoyed it. I'm glad to hear the uninformed are liking this as well as I did.
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: FrizzleFried on March 09, 2009, 02:19:06 pm
The wife and I went to see "Taken" this weekend.  After we got out of the theater "Watchmen" was letting out at the same time.  I heard comments from "Good flick" to "That was more boring than I expected"...

Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: SNAAKE on March 09, 2009, 03:19:35 pm
"That was more boring than I expected"...



BORING? random clowns cant be serious. yes its a long movie but to be perfectly honest it felt more like a 1.5 hour movie. I was never bored at all. these no name actors played their part very well. especially Rorschach. that dude has potential.
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: Ginsu Victim on March 09, 2009, 03:38:37 pm
especially Rorschach. that dude has potential.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0355097/awards
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: RayB on March 09, 2009, 04:18:12 pm
Haven't seen this yet, but really at 16, the content limits should be off.  That kid has seen more schlongs in the last month than all of us combined.
She better not have.
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: FrizzleFried on March 09, 2009, 04:27:22 pm
And Frizz, you're downright insane if you claim that Heroes is even half as good as Lost. INSANE!!!

I guess I am insane.  Lost...well...lost me about  2 years ago.  I stopped watching because of the absurdity of the story line.  It was getting really... really... really... REALLY stupid..

Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: FrizzleFried on March 09, 2009, 04:28:53 pm
Boo... Heroes is a decent show... LOST... now that is one massive floating turd.



I have to assume that you don't watch Heroes anymore. Even my wife thinks the show sucks now - and that is saying something!

Every week... surely not as good as the 1st season but much better than the shortened 2nd.
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: shardian on March 09, 2009, 04:33:20 pm
And Frizz, you're downright insane if you claim that Heroes is even half as good as Lost. INSANE!!!

I guess I am insane.  Lost...well...lost me about  2 years ago.  I stopped watching because of the absurdity of the story line.  It was getting really... really... really... REALLY stupid..


You quit watching just as it started to get good! Last season was excellent, and this season is excellent too. Answers are abound every week.

P.S., we got to see the 4 toed statue in its original form last week.  ;D
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: shardian on March 09, 2009, 04:35:51 pm


Every week... surely not as good as the 1st season but much better than the shortened 2nd.


The 1st 2-3 episodes were good at the start of season 3, but holy crap the show went off the tracks in a big way! The whole Arthur Petrelli story...awful on an Epic scale. The show contradicts itself HORRIBLY in every episode. Either the writers are that bad, or they just assume their fans are mindless zombies. Apparently the former is true, since the fans have been abandoning ship by the millions.
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: danny_galaga on March 10, 2009, 02:58:06 am
To those who have seen it:
Other than a blue shlong, is there anything else *really* objectionable, you wouldn't bring a 16 year old to see?


the 19 year old son of a workmate saw watchmen and didnt like it. so maybe the only 'danger' is that your kid just wont get it  :dunno

girl i was with is 28 and she loved it. but thought i was uber nerd for recognising henry kissinger and lee iaccocca. shes never heard of them...
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: danny_galaga on March 10, 2009, 03:00:19 am
Haven't seen this yet, but really at 16, the content limits should be off.  That kid has seen more schlongs in the last month than all of us combined.
She better not have.


 :laugh2:
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: danny_galaga on March 10, 2009, 03:00:50 am
The wife and I went to see "Taken" this weekend.  After we got out of the theater "Watchmen" was letting out at the same time.  I heard comments from "Good flick" to "That was more boring than I expected"...



on a side note, did you like 'taken'? i gave it 4.5/5

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=83427.0
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: SNAAKE on March 10, 2009, 03:25:06 am
Haven't seen this yet, but really at 16, the content limits should be off.  That kid has seen more schlongs in the last month than all of us combined.
She better not have.


but she probably did..

back in high school I used to show my shlong to 16 year old chicks all the time. fun fun! :cheers: :burgerking:
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: ChadTower on March 10, 2009, 08:58:04 am

She does have the intarwebs, yes?  Once you let a kid loose on the net you have to assume they have seen anything they may have wanted to see.  It's all out there.  If you can find it they can find it faster.

Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: saint on March 16, 2009, 03:26:45 pm
Hmm, everyone I've talked to lately has agreed with me that the current crop of Heroes episodes have been great. The season had a big lull just after it started, but the fugitives storyline has been pretty good.

Back on topic, we went Saturday night to see Watchmen and we loved it. I was shocked to see it condensed down in a way I could be happy with. Jackie Earle Haley was the perfect Rorschach.

Seconded and thirded - you couldn't have picked a more perfect Rorschach. Creepy how good the casting was there. I loved the movie. Thought it was one of the most faithful adaptations of original source material I've seen in a long time, even with some of the alterations at the end. Highly recommended for the geek crowd. Don't bring young kids. Some of the violence was pretty in-your-face.
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: sirwoogie on March 16, 2009, 03:52:44 pm
Don't bring young kids. Some of the violence was pretty in-your-face.

Saw it last night. My opinions reflect everybody here. Thing is, they had a 5-year kid in my viewing. I wanted to go and kick some ass, but the father had a neck thicker than my waist, so had to change my mind. Why the hell would you bring a kid to this movie? I'm sure this really farked up that kid's mind. Might as well take him to a slasher movie.
Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: TOK on March 16, 2009, 04:28:59 pm
I've been dying to see this, but I hate crowds so I waited.

I thought Rorschach and the Comedian were perfectly cast... I'm happy and surprised they didn't portray the Comedian as less of a scumbag. The credits which showed some backstory from the Minutemen not directly involved with the Watchmen movie was incredible, but probably lost on anyone who didn't read the comic, even though the story backed them up*

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For as close as it followed the comic in the early parts, where you could literally see spots where individual frames lingered for a second, I don't like that they changed up the ending. Most people refer to it as The Squid, but thats actually doing it a disservice. It was a psychics brain, and while it caused physical damage during the teleport, the real power of it was that it sent out a wave of death... Basically the feeling his brain felt when he was dying. It literally made your body die from the thought. Thats very powerful stuff. The thing that totally saved it was leaving in the ending part with Rorschach's journal, since that incriminates Viet/Ozymandias.

I knew the Black Freighter parts were edited out, and I was OK with that, but was kind of bummed that the comic reading kid and newspaper guy were only on screen for a couple seconds when the weapon was teleported into NY. I hear the directors cut of the movie will have the Black Freighter motion comic cut back in (its out on DVD), but wonder if that will also include more footage of the kid and newspaper guy. A lot happened around the newspaper stand that made the ending powerful.

Found some of the music choices a bit literal and overdone, but didn't detract from the story.

*Dollar Bill getting killed after he got his cape caught in the door was shown in the beginning then mentioned in the main part of the movie. Also there was Comedians reference in the movie to Hooded Justice being gay when he knocked him off Silk Spectre I.

OK, I feel incredibly nerd-like.  :D
I give it an 8 out of 10.


Title: Re: Watchmen
Post by: Ginsu Victim on March 16, 2009, 04:45:33 pm
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but was kind of bummed that the comic reading kid and newspaper guy were only on screen for a couple seconds when the weapon was teleported into NY

They were also shown in one shot earlier, when Laurie and Dan are walking through the city together. Since the Black Freighter is being cut into the film later, there's DEFINITELY news stand footage.