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Title: 6.3v 44's keep burning out is it because im feeding them 12v ?
Post by: mrclean on October 27, 2008, 04:41:41 pm
Initially I had installed all 6.3v bulbs and i'm running 12v to them through a gigantic daisy chain they all worked for about a total of 2-3hrs of run time or so and then started to go / fade burn out is it related to the voltage as to why they went so quickly ? because I thought they were rated at 3,000 hrs according to the box. So do i need to buy 12v bulbs instead ?
Title: Re: 6.3v 44's keep burning out is it because im feeding them 12v ?
Post by: grantspain on October 27, 2008, 06:12:23 pm
use 12v bulbs or run the 6.3 from the 5 volts
Title: Re: 6.3v 44's keep burning out is it because im feeding them 12v ?
Post by: SirPeale on October 27, 2008, 09:17:06 pm
Dude...your subject says it all.  You're feeding bulbs rated @ 6.3V 12V.  Double voltage.  Why did you think that would be okay?
Title: Re: 6.3v 44's keep burning out is it because im feeding them 12v ?
Post by: mrclean on October 27, 2008, 10:06:06 pm
Dude...your subject says it all.  You're feeding bulbs rated @ 6.3V 12V.  Double voltage.  Why did you think that would be okay?

No wonder why they were super bright! any one know where i can get a dozen of them cheap ?
Title: Re: 6.3v 44's keep burning out is it because im feeding them 12v ?
Post by: sarge on October 27, 2008, 10:46:31 pm
You can buy them at many different places but here's a list of several different bulb types.

http://www.happcontrols.com/lighting/91201910.htm

If you are going to use a 12V supply for them just make sure that it is rated for at least 12 volts keeping in mind the farther you go over 12V the dimmer the bulb will be but also the longer it will last.  Also if you are keeping the same light socket make sure you get a bulb that will fit (Bayonet T 3-1/4).
Title: Re: 6.3v 44's keep burning out is it because im feeding them 12v ?
Post by: Kevin Mullins on October 27, 2008, 11:18:18 pm
Go down to the local auto parts store.

Wouldn't say they are the cheapest ...... but I'd bet you'll find them.
Title: Re: 6.3v 44's keep burning out is it because im feeding them 12v ?
Post by: mrclean on October 27, 2008, 11:51:09 pm
Go down to the local auto parts store.

Wouldn't say they are the cheapest ...... but I'd bet you'll find them.

yeah probably 2-3 bucks for only 2 of them im gonna see if i can track these down online but probably the shipping will kill me  :blah:

I don't think that happ link has the bulbs i need
Title: Re: 6.3v 44's keep burning out is it because im feeding them 12v ?
Post by: Kevin Mullins on October 28, 2008, 01:35:43 am
Yeah, I know all about the auto parts place costs.  ;)
(but convenience in a pinch)

Happs carries what you're looking for, just look at the 14 or 14.4 volt variety.

The standard Taito cab calls for a #47 bulb at 0.15 amp.
(the #44's you have in there are rated at 0.25 amp)

So you could go with something like the #1813  at 0.1 amp.
Or a bit brighter with the #1815 at 0.2 amp.

Or look up a light bulb / lighting supply place near you.
Heck, check Lowes and Home Depot and such too.
Shouldn't really be a need to order online unless you plan on getting a couple boxes of them.
Title: Re: 6.3v 44's keep burning out is it because im feeding them 12v ?
Post by: BobA on October 29, 2008, 11:46:19 am
You can also run the 6.3 V in series (2 in each circuit) and then supply 12V to each pair.   They will not burn out as they will be receiving the correct voltage.
Title: Re: 6.3v 44's keep burning out is it because im feeding them 12v ?
Post by: shardian on October 29, 2008, 01:14:31 pm
If you are wondering why they 'burnt out', that phrase is quite literal. You cooked the filament until it fell apart.  ;D
Title: Re: 6.3v 44's keep burning out is it because im feeding them 12v ?
Post by: mrclean on October 29, 2008, 02:06:46 pm
If you are wondering why they 'burnt out', that phrase is quite literal. You cooked the filament until it fell apart.  ;D

yeah chad at lizard lick told me the 14v that he sells should work if i feed them 12v, any pros / cons  to this ?
Title: Re: 6.3v 44's keep burning out is it because im feeding them 12v ?
Post by: shardian on October 29, 2008, 02:17:33 pm
They'll last longer and burn a bit cooler.

A voltage rating on an incandescent lamp basically signifies the thickness of the filament.
Title: Re: 6.3v 44's keep burning out is it because im feeding them 12v ?
Post by: mrclean on October 29, 2008, 02:24:07 pm
whops i saw on lizardlicks web site that the 14v's are wedge not Bayonet Base.

this looks like what i need from bob;
 10 Lamps 1813 (1815) Bayonet 12V  $2.00
Title: Re: 6.3v 44's keep burning out is it because im feeding them 12v ?
Post by: Kevin Mullins on October 29, 2008, 04:05:09 pm

So you could go with something like the #1813  at 0.1 amp.
Or a bit brighter with the #1815 at 0.2 amp.


Remember now ... Bob's a great guy , but there will be like $6.00 shipping.
So best to get two or three boxes for spares.
Title: Re: 6.3v 44's keep burning out is it because im feeding them 12v ?
Post by: mrclean on October 29, 2008, 04:38:59 pm
yeah i was thinking just that.. i'd probably get 3x boxes which would be 30 lamps which isnt terrible for about 12 bucks with plenty of spares
Title: Re: 6.3v 44's keep burning out is it because im feeding them 12v ?
Post by: _Iz- on October 30, 2008, 12:09:49 pm
You can also run the 6.3 V in series (2 in each circuit) and then supply 12V to each pair.   They will not burn out as they will be receiving the correct voltage.


This is what I did on my cab, works very well, I've yet to have one burn out....
Title: Re: 6.3v 44's keep burning out is it because im feeding them 12v ?
Post by: northerngames on November 05, 2008, 08:38:58 am
you could also add a resistor to drop it from 12V to whatever you need.
Title: Re: 6.3v 44's keep burning out is it because im feeding them 12v ?
Post by: SirPeale on November 05, 2008, 09:38:16 am
you could also add a resistor to drop it from 12V to whatever you need.

True...but it's a lot easier to move the light wire from one voltage to another on the power supply.
Title: Re: 6.3v 44's keep burning out is it because im feeding them 12v ?
Post by: Kevin Mullins on November 05, 2008, 10:56:13 am
Yeah, but he has it coming directly from the JAMMA edge connector.
Title: Re: 6.3v 44's keep burning out is it because im feeding them 12v ?
Post by: SirPeale on November 05, 2008, 12:54:00 pm
Yeah, but he has it coming directly from the JAMMA edge connector.

Even easier then; just use the proper bulbs!
Title: Re: 6.3v 44's keep burning out is it because im feeding them 12v ?
Post by: Kevin Mullins on November 05, 2008, 03:54:36 pm
Bingo ....  :cheers: