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Arcade Collecting => Miscellaneous Arcade Talk => Topic started by: WunderCade on August 06, 2007, 08:24:03 pm
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I don't have any experience with Ikari Warriors, never played it, but the price just seems irresistible, has anyone owned one? Is the game play worth the 200 bucks??
http://modesto.craigslist.org/for/389288409.html (http://modesto.craigslist.org/for/389288409.html)
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Excellent game. One of the oddballs that isn't easy to play in emulation due to the rotary sticks, too.
I'd snag it.
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As war-themed shooters of the late 80s go it's a pretty decent game. The rotary stick definitely adds to the experience. On top of that, Ikari Warriors is a JAMMA game, so you could easily swap it out to be a different vertically-oriented game.
My first reaction was that it looked like a nice Stern cab, but then I pulled up the KLOV listing to see the exact same pic. :P Makes you wonder what his looks like. Maybe he contributed the KLOV pic, but odds are against it.
If it's in decent shape I'd pick it up.
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It is worth a look if it is close. Don't be surprised if it is a total junker when you see it, especially with lack of a real pic.
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IW is a KIT. So there's no such thing as an original dedicated. So it's a crap shoot what you're getting. You have to consider condition of everything. Cabinet, monitor, burn-in, control panel, overlay, intact side-art, bezel, etc, etc.
That pic taken from KLOV is a Stern cabinet btw. (Berzerk, Scramble, Super Cobra, ... who knows).
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On top of that, Ikari Warriors is a JAMMA game, so you could easily swap it out to be a different vertically-oriented game.
Not necessarily. Per KLOV, there were non-JAMMA and JAMMA boards...
"The dedicated boardset has a 22/44-pin edge connector that uses the SNK pinout while the conversion kit PCB uses the JAMMA standard pinout. Both have two 13-pin connectors on the board that connect via cables to the LS-30 rotary joysticks on the control panel."
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IW is a KIT. So there's no such thing as an original dedicated. So it's a crap shoot what you're getting. You have to consider condition of everything. Cabinet, monitor, burn-in, control panel, overlay, intact side-art, bezel, etc, etc.
That pic taken from KLOV is a Stern cabinet btw. (Berzerk, Scramble, Super Cobra, ... who knows).
From KLOV:
Cabinet Information
The dedicated game housings were built by Dynamo, a third-party manufacturer that created the popular "cut-corner" cabinet. These enclosures became popular conversion cabinets for many later JAMMA games. Ikari Warriors was also released as a JAMMA conversion kit later on.
So technically, the Dynamo Cut corner IS the original, dedicated cabinet for Ikari Warriors. ;D
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Ikari warriors connect the ls-20's to the pcb. Ikari 3 pcb is jamma and horizontal as I had owned the arcade in the past. Hell $200 for an ikari warriors is a very good price if the monitor has little burn it, cab has no rot/cracks/etc.. Game plays well. Keep in mind that most shooters with LS-20's are vertical.
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IW is a KIT. So there's no such thing as an original dedicated. So it's a crap shoot what you're getting. You have to consider condition of everything. Cabinet, monitor, burn-in, control panel, overlay, intact side-art, bezel, etc, etc.
That pic taken from KLOV is a Stern cabinet btw. (Berzerk, Scramble, Super Cobra, ... who knows).
From KLOV:
Cabinet Information
The dedicated game housings were built by Dynamo, a third-party manufacturer that created the popular "cut-corner" cabinet. These enclosures became popular conversion cabinets for many later JAMMA games. Ikari Warriors was also released as a JAMMA conversion kit later on.
So technically, the Dynamo Cut corner IS the original, dedicated cabinet for Ikari Warriors. ;D
Agreed... this is a popular mis-conception amoung people in this community. Nearly every game had a "dedicated" cabinet, it was just often a generic one and wasn't assembled at the pcb manufacturer's warehouse. Once the 90's rolled along, about the only people actually making cabinets for their games in-house was midway and sega.
Sf2 was the same way. Technically speaking they didn't build a machine for it, but the official kit was designed around a dynamo (early revisions used the slim-metal cp models and later revisions used the cut-corner dynamos). If you were to buy a complete, new game (not just a kit) from a vendor, it would be in said, designed-for cabinet.
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For the naysayers: The flyer (http://www.arcadeflyers.com/?page=flyer&db=videodb&id=1287&image=1)
I found the manual over at crazykong.com (http://www.crazykong.com/manuals/manuals%20h-q/) It describes the Dynamo cabinet, but the schematics show the pinouts for a 44-pin connector.
I'd still say it's worth checking out. You'll never know until you go look at it.
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O.K. So, I emailed the guy and asked for some pics and found out why he went with the KLOV pic. Take a look a the pics he sent.
1. The side vinyl has to be replaced.
2. The CP I can't tell if the corners are ripped or just if that's the way the corners of the CP are?
3. What's with all the extra buttons, it kinda looks like a four player with only two sticks?? The KLOV photo don't have that many buttons??
4. The monitor look like it does have burn-in and pin-cushioning on the picture at top and bottom.
I'm now second guessing if it's worth 200.00, couple hours of O/T at work would more than cover it for me <indecision>....so, what do you guys think?
BTW...It's only located about 15 miles away :).
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Responding to your points:
1. There isn't any "side-vinyl" to speak of. Thats the sides of the actual cabinet that are chipped away. The side art is just that little square graphic towards the top. Now there might be some sort of covering under the side-art if that's what you mean, but this should really be either bare paint, or laminate, not some cheap vinyl.
2. That is the cut-corner design. The corners are literally cut off and there's no side art on it. That area looks to be in need of a good coat of paint on this cab. Masking off the cpo and painting the corners shoudl be fairly painless.
3. That is the authentic button arrangment. It's so players can alternatively play while standing at the corners. (Great for fat gamers... also the reason the corners of the cp are cut off.)
4. Yup monitor looks pretty beat up. The sticks and pcb for this game are fairly expensive though, so keep that in mind.
Personally I wouldn't pay 200 bucks for it. It needs a lot of work. Then again, rotary sticks go for 30-40 bucks a pop on ebay and the side art, bezel glass and control panel overlay seem to be in decent shape. Basically both sides of the cab would have to be patched via bondo and re-painted. That might be tricky without having to buy new sideart. You'd probably want a new tube for the monitor as well.
I'd say it's worth more around 100-150, but that's just me.
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Thanks for the clarification HC.
I responded to they guy with what I saw was wrong and would need fixing and asked if 200 bucks was FIRM.
He responded:
"Allof the mentioned is true. Unfortunatly I already paid $200 when I got it 6 months ago. I can only go $175.00. Let me know. It's still a good deal."
I'm thinking if he'll go 175, then he'll go 150. He acknowledged the cabs condition but then seems to think because he got shafted for 200 bucks he should pass that on to the next buyer. I'm actually thinking that bothering with rejuventating the monitor is a hassle making this cabinet a pass.
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He didn't get shafted... $200 is reasonable market value for a working game, especially one with a specialty controller.
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If it helps any, the game is excellent IMO. Offer him 100 bucks and wait. He'll come around if he needs the money. If not, wait for something better to come along.
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Still a decent buy for 200 bucks, I'd definitely snag for $175.
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IMO, it wasn't a bad deal for him at $200 and, yep, I would grab it at $175.
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Doesn't it depend on whether the other member IS a ---meecrob--- ?
;)
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15 miles away? Drive over, play it for a minute and make him a cash offer. He's more likely to negotiate if the cash is in your hand versus over a phone. (Just personal experience) Also, I've often went to someone's house to look at one cab and left with another that he wasn't planning on selling till I made him an offer.