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Title: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: psik0tik on June 13, 2007, 03:09:01 pm
I saw this thread http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=67694.0

And I thought that tunnel one would fit inside a mobile home and then I figured I could make a decent arcade room out of one....so I got the DIY itch again and found a double wide 26 X 48 on craigslist for 1000.00 !!! (I'll have pictures soon) so after I got fiancee approval I bought it and now it's in my backyard. Does anybody have any experience with remodeling these things. It's not in the best of shape but it pretty much just looks like legos. There's no supporting walls so I figure I can knock them all down and have a wide open space. It has 2 bathrooms but I think I'm only going to keep the one in the back. Also I think I'm going to have to update the ac system and the insulation. I think this will make a pretty decent arcade room and best of all it's away from the house and my fiancee loves this idea.
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: ChadTower on June 13, 2007, 03:10:15 pm

Someone find Paigeoliver for this guy.

Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: shardian on June 13, 2007, 03:18:34 pm
Just curious, but do you live in Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska? Just curious...no reason. ::)

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Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: ChadTower on June 13, 2007, 03:31:34 pm

When does he break it to her that they're moving in?
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: psik0tik on June 13, 2007, 04:45:33 pm
Nope I live in Tampa lol. I live in a regular house I just have a big back yard. I've been out there tearing the walls down and they come down fairly easy. I pretty much have them all down already minus the ones that surround the bathroom. Next I have to dismantle the kitchen, whoever the previous tenant was they left food in the cabinets and the fridge. And seeing how the power has been off in this thing for 2 months when I opened the door on said fridge my breakfast came back. I think I'm going to duct tape the thing up and just throw it away as a whole.
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: shardian on June 13, 2007, 04:52:57 pm
How do you plan on getting power out there? Hire someone, or diy?
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: shorthair on June 13, 2007, 07:05:54 pm
They usually have plug-ins. When I was a kid, we used to sit up on weekend nights in my friends camper trailer eating Dorritos, drinking Coke, chewin Red Man and filling up spitoons, radio on and Vectrex ablazin.
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: BobA on June 13, 2007, 08:42:10 pm
Wow.  This could be the classic project of the decade.   An arcade on wheels.   I doesn't matter if it goes anywhere it would just be neat.   Good luck on your project.  Looking forward to seeing it.
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: MikeQ on June 13, 2007, 08:47:39 pm
Nope I live in Tampa lol. I live in a regular house I just have a big back yard. I've been out there tearing the walls down and they come down fairly easy. I pretty much have them all down already minus the ones that surround the bathroom. Next I have to dismantle the kitchen, whoever the previous tenant was they left food in the cabinets and the fridge. And seeing how the power has been off in this thing for 2 months when I opened the door on said fridge my breakfast came back. I think I'm going to duct tape the thing up and just throw it away as a whole.

I hope you don't live near Davis Island.  Your arcade will be a house boat arcade room after the next big storm.
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: psik0tik on June 13, 2007, 09:42:21 pm
Nope I live in the Pinellas park area. I'm going to have to hire an electrician and the power company to come hook me up on a separate line. I'd diy it but it's alot of electricity and I don't want to try and climb the pole or tap into my house. But I'm waiting till I get the thing gutted and new receptacles put in and in place before I get power hooked up. Plus I have to get a new panel because the one that's in there won't hold all that stuff plus a bigger A/C unit. It would get hella hot in there with the small A/C unit it has now (aka wall unit). It use to have a central but that has long been taken out and I want to run new ducts because theres no way of telling whats in the old ones. Plus I want to move them around more towards the center of the trailer. This project is going to be slow...meaning it's expensive just to get it going. While I was browsing around on the internet I found people building offices and houses out of used storage containers....I should have went that route. But this will be just as fun :)

http://www.fabprefab.com/fabfiles/containerbayhome.htm
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: saint on June 13, 2007, 09:54:27 pm
Ack, please don't throw a fridge away with the door still on it. Doors should always be removed from fridges when disposed.

Nope I live in Tampa lol. I live in a regular house I just have a big back yard. I've been out there tearing the walls down and they come down fairly easy. I pretty much have them all down already minus the ones that surround the bathroom. Next I have to dismantle the kitchen, whoever the previous tenant was they left food in the cabinets and the fridge. And seeing how the power has been off in this thing for 2 months when I opened the door on said fridge my breakfast came back. I think I'm going to duct tape the thing up and just throw it away as a whole.
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: shorthair on June 13, 2007, 11:14:41 pm
Ack, please don't throw a fridge away with the door still on it. Doors should always be removed from fridges when disposed.


Oh, right. Forgot all those public informercials as a kid about fridges at the dump an all. And, oops, though he says mobile home I thought he meant RV trailer. <fart> Could still do the chips, soda, and spitoon fillin.
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: psik0tik on June 14, 2007, 01:21:38 am
When you dispose of them here they crush them right in front of you. Any other time I'd just have to grin and bear the smell when I trashed it :) It'll be crushed tomorrow and when it happens I'll be sure to stand waaaaay back because I know that stuff is going to come out of it like a tube of sewer toothpaste. Other than that I peeled up the carpet and I found half the floor needs to be replaced. Especially where the A/C unit was, you could literally push your finger through it. So I'm off to lowes tomorrow to stock up  ;D
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: Howard_Casto on June 14, 2007, 02:46:14 am
Ack, please don't throw a fridge away with the door still on it. Doors should always be removed from fridges when disposed.

Nope I live in Tampa lol. I live in a regular house I just have a big back yard. I've been out there tearing the walls down and they come down fairly easy. I pretty much have them all down already minus the ones that surround the bathroom. Next I have to dismantle the kitchen, whoever the previous tenant was they left food in the cabinets and the fridge. And seeing how the power has been off in this thing for 2 months when I opened the door on said fridge my breakfast came back. I think I'm going to duct tape the thing up and just throw it away as a whole.

So you saw that very special episode of Punky Brewster too saint?

Maybe the world is blind.....
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: ChadTower on June 14, 2007, 08:45:57 am

I lived in an apt building as a kid where a toddler died inside a fridge.  Climbed in it while his parents were sleeping.  It does happen.

With the amount of work you're talking about for this mobile home, sounds like it would have been cheaper to build a new building.
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: saint on June 14, 2007, 09:02:10 am
I have never in my life seen an episode of Punky Brewster and hope to go to my grave still saying so.

Ack, please don't throw a fridge away with the door still on it. Doors should always be removed from fridges when disposed.

Nope I live in Tampa lol. I live in a regular house I just have a big back yard. I've been out there tearing the walls down and they come down fairly easy. I pretty much have them all down already minus the ones that surround the bathroom. Next I have to dismantle the kitchen, whoever the previous tenant was they left food in the cabinets and the fridge. And seeing how the power has been off in this thing for 2 months when I opened the door on said fridge my breakfast came back. I think I'm going to duct tape the thing up and just throw it away as a whole.

So you saw that very special episode of Punky Brewster too saint?

Maybe the world is blind.....
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: ChadTower on June 14, 2007, 09:08:45 am

Hey now, when she got older, she had a rack you could sink a ship with.
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: billf on June 14, 2007, 01:23:45 pm
Friend of mine in Texas had a double-wide double-long modular house.  Think it was about 2,400 sq ft (huge, huge mobile home).

Good lord, that's ginormous!  I just built a 2010 sq ft ranch and I can even fathom it as "mobile".
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: psik0tik on June 14, 2007, 02:23:19 pm
Well 600.00 and a free A/C unit later I can start working. I picked up a free A/C unit off of craigslist and I bought an assload of wood and insulation. I bought that foam stuff to go in between the regular insulation and the wall due to the fact that theres only an inch of material from the inside to the outside once you rip all the panels down. And for all of you concerned I watched the death of the fridge this morning also...and if a kid could crawl into it now he deserves to be studied at a paranormal research lab. Sorry for the lack of pictures so far but my fiancee will be back soon with the cam and I can get pics rolling. All in all I have alooot of space to deal with and now it's going to come down to buying more arcades to fill the space :)
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: shardian on June 14, 2007, 02:29:12 pm
Insulation is a VERY good idea because those trailers have the bare minimum originally. Very cool you got an AC unit for free. However, why so much money? I hope you didn't buy fancy schmancy plywood. Low-grade subflooring would have been just fine. However, you may want to consider adding floor joists since the place will be stuffed with heavy arcade machines.

Oh, and don't forget that now you also need a pop machine, and a gumball machine, and a.... ;D
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: ChadTower on June 14, 2007, 02:30:29 pm
 :pics
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: shorthair on June 14, 2007, 04:07:02 pm
Friend of mine in Texas had a double-wide double-long modular house.  Think it was about 2,400 sq ft (huge, huge mobile home).

Good lord, that's ginormous!  I just built a 2010 sq ft ranch and I can even fathom it as "mobile".

Na, that's pretty common round here. They have several 'show rooms' round town just off the highway. Some of them are the same plans as regular homes.
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: psik0tik on June 14, 2007, 05:54:35 pm
Insulation is a VERY good idea because those trailers have the bare minimum originally. Very cool you got an AC unit for free. However, why so much money? I hope you didn't buy fancy schmancy plywood. Low-grade subflooring would have been just fine. However, you may want to consider adding floor joists since the place will be stuffed with heavy arcade machines.

Oh, and don't forget that now you also need a pop machine, and a gumball machine, and a.... ;D

Most of it went to floor support and new ducts plus that foam insulation isn't as cheap as I thought it'd be. Although it sits on a metal frame it still has some open spaces that could use some support. Pics are comming very soon...the fiancee is in miami with the cam so I have to wait till she gets back on sunday :) 
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: psik0tik on June 14, 2007, 09:42:35 pm
That was what i was thinking....It's my own playland away from the house. I don't have to hear "turn your arcade down I can hear pacman upstairs" The only problem I can think of is the cost of all this. It will be bare at first but I think after a few good auctions I can fill it up and that's where this is going to get expensive. The coolest thing for right now is that I can get my skee ball machine out of storage and actually use it :) I've got alot of plans but it'll be a long process. Hopefully when it's done I can get some people off of here to come over and have fun. It's one thing to own a personal arcade but it's more fun to share.
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: Chris G on June 18, 2007, 02:36:38 pm
This sounds awesome - the ultimate guy's get-away space.
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: psik0tik on June 18, 2007, 09:02:37 pm
Ok I have a couple of pics to illustrate the hell I've put myself in :) the first 2 are befores...notice the charred room. The last is where I'm at now.

Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: Samstag on June 18, 2007, 11:03:20 pm
Wow.  Is there anything you're not replacing?
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: shardian on June 19, 2007, 07:47:56 am
Wow.  Is there anything you're not replacing?

Hey, he couldn't have possibly built a shed for that price, so good for him. And lets not even get started on the fact that if he moves, he can take his whole arcade with him intact!!! :notworthy:
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: Jouster on June 19, 2007, 08:45:10 am
Hopefully when it's done I can get some people off of here to come over and have fun. It's one thing to own a personal arcade but it's more fun to share.

I'm in the Tampa area...I'd be happy to come over and help you play on some machines.

Jouster
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: ChadTower on June 19, 2007, 08:48:06 am
Hey, he couldn't have possibly built a shed for that price, so good for him. And lets not even get started on the fact that if he moves, he can take his whole arcade with him intact!!! :notworthy:

By the time he's done with this, it will probably work out roughly the same.  Sheds don't cost much if you're doing the building yourself.

Why is that room all charred?  Did I miss the mention of fire damage?
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: Chris G on June 19, 2007, 02:20:19 pm
Holy crap that's a lot of work...   :o
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: Samstag on June 19, 2007, 03:30:26 pm
Wow.  Is there anything you're not replacing?

Hey, he couldn't have possibly built a shed for that price, so good for him. And lets not even get started on the fact that if he moves, he can take his whole arcade with him intact!!! :notworthy:

All I'm seeing is really old 2x4's and the insulation he's replacing.  Oh, and the floor he's replacing.  I must be missing something.

Why is that room all charred?  Did I miss the mention of fire damage?

I assumed that was the first step of the restoration process.
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: ChadTower on June 19, 2007, 03:32:04 pm
All I'm seeing is really old 2x4's and the insulation he's replacing.  Oh, and the floor he's replacing.  I must be missing something.

That's pretty much all a trailer is... 2x4s and insulation.  It's the aesthetics and functional pieces that are going to bite his wallet.
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: shardian on June 19, 2007, 03:35:38 pm
Well, drywall is $10 a sheet and assuming you have 8' walls, you are gonna need near 40 sheets. :o Oh, and a few months to mud and paint all that yourself of course. ;D

And lets not get started on carpet...
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: ChadTower on June 19, 2007, 03:47:49 pm

And the insulation isn't cheap, either.  The sum total cost is going to be high.  That's all we're saying.
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: shardian on June 19, 2007, 03:53:59 pm
Ack, I just looked at your pictures again and realized you also have to replace the roof. Have you worked up an initial budget to see if you will actually be able to finish this?
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: shorthair on June 19, 2007, 05:42:29 pm
Well, pouring a foundation, plus the materials can be a bit of both work and money. And building anything requires permits. But maybe he could've built three or four adjoining sheds. He could've looked into straw bale; with decent ventilation, he might not've even needed cooling.
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: psik0tik on June 19, 2007, 05:51:56 pm
The roof is just because I'm not a big fan of the metal roof. Yes insulation is expensive but luckily I have 8 bags of blown  insulation in the garage from when I did the attic in my house. Yes it came with fire damage which sucked but I was going to strip it down anyway :) Plus my neighbor and my dad have around 12 sheets of drywall between the 2 of them so that'll save some money. The carpet I'm getting from a warehouse....I have remnants of like 6 different colors that I'm going to cut up and make designs with. I've done it before with a friend and it came out really neat. So far I'm in the hole around 1100 so for the size I think it'll be worth it.  :applaud:

EDIT: I've decided to cover up all the windows so no windows :) Also the car shop I get my car done at just gave me a few boxes of under car neons...I think I have like 13 sticks of neons..I'm sure I can find something to do with them. Also I went and picked up an old coke machine (the kind that dispensed bottles with the little door on it) and I just happened to notice that a bud light bottle fits perfectly in there :) 

Looks kinda rough but i can always repaint
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: ChadTower on June 19, 2007, 07:11:01 pm
And building anything requires permits.

It's a good point, but believe me, what he is doing now also requires permits.  Plenty of them.
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: psik0tik on June 19, 2007, 08:45:09 pm
Yeah I have a few :) The city pretty much rapes you when it comes to building stuff in your backyard. But at least I don't have to pay for the permit just to have it in my backyard.
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: shardian on June 19, 2007, 10:36:03 pm
Also I went and picked up an old coke machine (the kind that dispensed bottles with the little door on it) and I just happened to notice that a bud light bottle fits perfectly in there :) 

Looks kinda rough but i can always repaint


Schweet! I am wanting a pop machine, and my mechanic has like three just sitting in his shop. I am tempted to offer to take one off his hands, but I had a dream the other night that included an old 7up machine with flames shooting out the top due to malfunction. After that, I have reconsidered a pop machine. ;D
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: ChadTower on June 20, 2007, 08:07:50 am

Bud Light?  Dude, the only reason I don't totally laugh at you is that you're drinking it in a husked out double wide anyway. 

Ah, hell.   :laugh2: :laugh2:
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: shardian on June 20, 2007, 01:22:37 pm
Schweet! I am wanting a pop machine, and my mechanic has like three just sitting in his shop. I am tempted to offer to take one off his hands, but I had a dream the other night that included an old 7up machine with flames shooting out the top due to malfunction. After that, I have reconsidered a pop machine. ;D

Well I asked the mechanic about the old can pepsi machine in the back and I'm getting it and a replacement compressor for it...for FREE!!! I won't be picking it up until next weekend probably though.
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: ChadTower on June 20, 2007, 01:34:46 pm

Niiice.  In the fall, at my local recycling depot, there was a VERY NICE old school metal bodied Coke machine.  Probably worth a lot of coin, sitting waiting for the scrap metal pickup.  If I had any interest or knowledge of vending machines I'd have picked that sucker up as the attendant was willing to give it away free.  No idea of what it was like inside but the cab itself was bright red, few dents, no rust.
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: shardian on June 20, 2007, 01:49:48 pm

Niiice.  In the fall, at my local recycling depot, there was a VERY NICE old school metal bodied Coke machine.  Probably worth a lot of coin, sitting waiting for the scrap metal pickup.  If I had any interest or knowledge of vending machines I'd have picked that sucker up as the attendant was willing to give it away free.  No idea of what it was like inside but the cab itself was bright red, few dents, no rust.
You can turn that on ebay for good money even in non-working condition if the body is good and it is an old-school bottle machine with dedicated artwork. Alot of people want them for just for looks in their coke collections.
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: ChadTower on June 20, 2007, 01:56:13 pm

Yeah, would have been good for such a thing, had I not already been backed up by 75 projects in the queue.  I'm sure someone else snagged it.  It was definitely one of those with demand, it had no lights, was the molded metal type with the Coke art raised.
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: CCM on June 20, 2007, 02:42:11 pm

Yeah, would have been good for such a thing, had I not already been backed up by 75 projects in the queue.  I'm sure someone else snagged it.  It was definitely one of those with demand, it had no lights, was the molded metal type with the Coke art raised.

Damn, just looked on ebay, you could make a killing on old coke machines.  It wouldn't have been much of a project to pick it up for free and sell it on ebay as-is...
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: ChadTower on June 20, 2007, 02:48:34 pm

Wouldn't have worked out that way for me.  I would have rented a vehicle, picked it up, put it in the basement, then said for two years "I'm going to fix and then sell it" rather than selling it two weeks later.  Right next to the row of noworking cabs and pins that I said the same about.
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: CCM on June 20, 2007, 02:54:36 pm
so you do projects the same way I do...
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: ChadTower on June 20, 2007, 04:09:37 pm

Yep, the projects pile up faster than my free time will allow me to complete them.
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: shorthair on June 20, 2007, 06:11:54 pm

Bud Light?  Dude, the only reason I don't totally laugh at you is that you're drinking it in a husked out double wide anyway. 

Ah, hell.   :laugh2: :laugh2:

No, that's when they drink Pabst or Old Milwaulkee...or something more obscure they bought from the ABC store.

Quote

Well I asked the mechanic about the old can pepsi machine in the back and I'm getting it and a replacement compressor for it...for FREE!!! I won't be picking it up until next weekend probably though.

See, all's it takes is a little courage. Neow go git that Ms!
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: psik0tik on June 20, 2007, 09:53:24 pm
Who gives a crap what I drink...I'm sorry I don't drink metrosexual froo froo drinks..I apologize :) Either way the coke machine works...I had to have the compressor replaced now it works pretty good. I've been looking up fiber optic ceilings and I think I'm going to go with that. I guess I'll have to put in ceiling tiles but the whole effect of it will be cool. Plus I'm looking for some neon arcade signs.
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: shardian on June 20, 2007, 10:10:26 pm
Neow go git that Ms!

Nope, no more projects for me until everything I have is done! Besides I got raped with a $1600 doctor bill for the little one today. Out of network doctors SUCK!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: MikeQ on June 20, 2007, 10:22:09 pm
Neow go git that Ms!

Nope, no more projects for me until everything I have is done! Besides I got raped with a $1600 doctor bill for the little one today. Out of network doctors SUCK!!!!!!!

I love how you can go to an in-network hospital and be seen by nothing but out-of-network doctors.  I just about went postal when that happened to me on a $30,000 bill.  It was an E.R. visit too.  Not like I could ask each doctor if they were in network before they saw me.  The surgeon I didn't even meet until after the surgery (I was sedated).  I never met the anaesthesiologist.

When I pointed this out to the insurance company they told me to write a "letter of appeal" explaining this.  I did, they denied it.  They told me I could appeal it.   I did.  They denied it.  Thank goodness for out of pocket maximums.  I ended up having to pay around $2500 out of pocket.
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: shorthair on June 20, 2007, 10:47:47 pm
Health care and pharmaceutical are the newest robber barons.
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: jbox on June 21, 2007, 12:18:18 am
Yes, because all the other businesses in the world have a habit of just changing their mind against their own interests.  ::)  Any system were "oversight" = "myself" is generally always rubbish (politics, enron, etc...).  :dunno
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: ChadTower on June 21, 2007, 07:57:48 am
Nope, no more projects for me until everything I have is done! Besides I got raped with a $1600 doctor bill for the little one today. Out of network doctors SUCK!!!!!!!

That happened to us a few years ago.  Younger son got the flu but ended up losing like 30% of his bodyweight (he was only 20 something pounds to start) so he had to stay for IV fluids for a few days... whack, took us two years to pay it off.  And that's with decent insurance.

Luckily, most medical providers will be startlingly flexible with people willing to pay.  You can go as low as $50/month on that so long as you actually make the payments.  They're usually very grateful when someone doesn't flake on them entirely.
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: shardian on June 21, 2007, 10:42:50 am
What REALLY sucks about is that I had already met my in-network deductible for the year AND my break-point. Out-of-network has a completely different deductible to meet. :cheers:

And yes, the doctor was at an in-network hospital, and originally the insurance company quoted the doctors office as being in network. I got hit with the big bill when I complained about paying 10%, which I shouldn't have due to meeting my break-point. Yesterday was a fun morning, let me tell you.
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: ChadTower on June 21, 2007, 10:46:43 am

If they actually quoted it as in network to you, then changed their mind, that's a case I'd consider bringing to an attorney.  Probably not worth it for $1600, but if it were a higher figure, it could be worth doing.
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: shorthair on June 21, 2007, 03:45:39 pm
Yes, because all the other businesses in the world have a habit of just changing their mind against their own interests.  ::)  Any system were "oversight" = "myself" is generally always rubbish (politics, enron, etc...).  :dunno

I'm not quite sure of your meaning here, but I'll say this: two reasons those two I referenced are so big is that people have a hard time taking care of themselves, and our economic model is purely about wealth rather than the emotional development of society. (The reason they're problematic is because they inherently discourage emotional development.) The latter, though not impossible, is only incidentally possible through the current model.
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: CheffoJeffo on June 21, 2007, 03:57:31 pm
Health care and pharmaceutical are the newest robber barons.

I think you meant Health Insurance ... or, if you didn't, you should have.
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: boykster on June 21, 2007, 04:22:01 pm
Health care and pharmaceutical are the newest robber barons.

I think you meant Health Insurance ... or, if you didn't, you should have.

True that....doctors and hospital administrators aren't at fault here, it's all about insurace coverage, liability and malpractice insurance costs, etc.  Most doctors I know (and I know a lot, my father is a physician) pay way more $$$ in insurance than they actually make.

And as for the pharma industry, don't get me started.  I have worked in biotech/pharma for 10 years, and public perception vs reality is a huge gap.  There are MANY reasons that name-brand (non-generic) pharmaceuticals are so expensive, and it's not because we're a bunch of greedy bastids.  Do some research re: the cost of developing a new drug, and how long it's protected under patent before you start making assertions.

Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: Chris G on June 21, 2007, 05:19:01 pm
Not to mention those big severance checks they have to write to folks.   ;)
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: boykster on June 21, 2007, 05:29:26 pm
Not to mention those big severance checks they have to write to folks.   ;)

KNOCKOUT!!  :dizzy:
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: shorthair on June 21, 2007, 08:08:15 pm
No, I meant health care and pharmaceuticals, as they're not about keeping people healthy - let alone making sure they don't eventually need such things, ever - but making sure they need something to fix what could otherwise be addressed, or even avoided, with a balanced lifestyle. And everyone involved in either or both of those 'fields' is an accomplice, whether unwittingly.
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: AtomSmasher on June 21, 2007, 08:16:16 pm
No, I meant health care and pharmaceuticals, as they're not about keeping people healthy - let alone making sure they don't eventually need such things, ever - but making sure they need something to fix what could otherwise be addressed, or even avoided, with a balanced lifestyle. And everyone involved in either or both of those 'fields' is an accomplice, whether unwittingly.
I saw that Seinfeld episode.  The one where George needs his tonsils out, but decided to go to a holistic healer instead.  Funny stuff.
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: CheffoJeffo on June 21, 2007, 08:45:13 pm
No, I meant health care and pharmaceuticals, as they're not about keeping people healthy - let alone making sure they don't eventually need such things, ever - but making sure they need something to fix what could otherwise be addressed, or even avoided, with a balanced lifestyle. And everyone involved in either or both of those 'fields' is an accomplice, whether unwittingly.

Just 'coz you read it in one of those cool blogs you read doesn't make it so ...

You attribute motives to industries that I doubt you have any knowledge of nor experience with -- if you do, please correct me.

If not, please return to shearing your sheep ... erm girlfriend.
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: billf on June 21, 2007, 08:49:29 pm
No, I meant health care and pharmaceuticals, as they're not about keeping people healthy - let alone making sure they don't eventually need such things, ever - but making sure they need something to fix what could otherwise be addressed, or even avoided, with a balanced lifestyle. And everyone involved in either or both of those 'fields' is an accomplice, whether unwittingly.

Balanced lifestyle???
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: Jouster on June 21, 2007, 09:37:42 pm
No, I meant health care and pharmaceuticals, as they're not about keeping people healthy - let alone making sure they don't eventually need such things, ever - but making sure they need something to fix what could otherwise be addressed, or even avoided, with a balanced lifestyle. And everyone involved in either or both of those 'fields' is an accomplice, whether unwittingly.

Yes, spoken by some one with no idea what they are talking about...what medical or pharmacy school did you go to?

Jouster
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: boykster on June 21, 2007, 11:45:09 pm
No, I meant health care and pharmaceuticals, as they're not about keeping people healthy - let alone making sure they don't eventually need such things, ever - but making sure they need something to fix what could otherwise be addressed, or even avoided, with a balanced lifestyle. And everyone involved in either or both of those 'fields' is an accomplice, whether unwittingly.

People don't want to be "kept healthy", they want to visit the doctor who will give them a cut and dry diagnosis, prescribe a pill that costs $0.01 and fixes the problem permanently in 5 minutes.  They don't want to be told to eat a healthy diet, be more active and exercise, avoid high risk behaviour, drink less, etc.  They want to be free to do whatver they want.

And if the doctor can't "fix" them immediately, or advises them at all about their lifestyle, they are the patient gets offended and the doctor is "incompetent".

Of course I'm speaking in generalities, but I've been around the industry my entire life and have seen it from a different perspective than you.  If you don't think that the PEOPLE of the healthcare industry don't care, then you don't know about fathers and mothers who spend 60-80 hours a week away from their families on a regular basis, missing birthdays of children, going in to do rounds on christmas and thanksgiving, etc.

Now go crawl back in your hole and stop reading blogs....

 :soapbox:
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: shorthair on June 22, 2007, 01:52:40 am
Did I say there was an intended conspiracy? Did I say people didn't care?

You mistake what I say. People can have the kindest of intentions and use the wrong tools and methods. Those within the standard medical model are in this position. Not entirely, but largely. My girlfriend is a nurse (regular and psych), as is my aunt. I get confirmation of these things I've heard about from them/their experiences...as well as others'. Though you're right about people not wanting to be told what it takes for them to be healthy.
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: AtomSmasher on June 22, 2007, 02:41:22 am
TOR: Kramer tells me that you are interested in an alternative to surgery.

GEORGE: Yes, yes I am.

TOR: (Blows into George's face) I think we can help you. See, unfortunately, the medical establishment is a business like any other business. And business needs customers. And, they want to sell you their most expensive item which is unnecessary surgery.

TOR: You know, I am not a business man. I'm a holistic healer. It's a calling, it's a gift. You see, it's in the best interest of the medical profession that you remain sick. You see, that insures good business. You're not a patient. You're a customer.

JERRY: (He thinks this, the audience can hear his thoughts) And you're not a doctor, but you play one in real life.
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: NightGod on June 22, 2007, 03:45:41 am
Neow go git that Ms!

Nope, no more projects for me until everything I have is done! Besides I got raped with a $1600 doctor bill for the little one today. Out of network doctors SUCK!!!!!!!
Huzzah for self-insuring. I've yet to find a licensed doctor that's not in my network-I'm sure they're out there somewhere, just not anywhere I've been yet.
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: Samstag on June 22, 2007, 08:03:48 am
Did I say there was an intended conspiracy? Did I say people didn't care?

Health care and pharmaceutical are the newest robber barons.

Do you know what a robber baron is?  If you do, then yes, you did say both of these things and implied much worse.
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: CheffoJeffo on June 22, 2007, 08:13:55 am
Do you know what a robber baron is?  If you do, then yes, you did say both of these things and implied much worse.

There you go ... trying to hold shorthair to real definitions and meanings of words !  :applaud:

I predict that he will accuse you of letting 'popcul' seduce you with the meaning that you have in mind ... despite the fact that your meaning matches the definition in common use for eleventy or more decades.  :dunno

Perhaps, in order to understand shorty's intended meanings, we should all pick up a copy of  "Little Hitler's Guide To Obfuscatory Language Use"(tm). This is available as a companion to "Little Hitler's Guide To Genetics And Natural Selection"(tm) and comes as a lovely decorative boxed set.

Cheers
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: boykster on June 22, 2007, 02:22:59 pm
Anyway, back on topic:

I think the mobile arcade is a NEATO project, and even though you're basically gutting it all, that's good IMHO.  The fibre optic ceiling idea is an excellent one, I really wanted to put one in my home theater, but the wife vetoed it...she thought it would be distracting.

 :dunno

Keep us posted on progres....
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: shorthair on June 22, 2007, 06:43:01 pm
I guess as distracting as LED features on your panel?


AS: what you fail to realise is that you're using comedy as a source of authority.

sammay: I meant it metaphorically. You can call a person or group robber baron(s) in the way you mean. But an institution? Hence, metaphorically.

jeffy: see. not. (parse that one.)
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: psik0tik on June 22, 2007, 07:18:47 pm
I started raising the ceiling today I'm going to raise it 12 inches to compensate for the acoustic ceiling I have to install for the fibre optics. Most of the insulation is done (I'll never stop itching) and I repainted the coke machine and filled it up with sams adams and coronas (must be refreshed while working). I want to put up a division so my friend is etching a 5 x 5 foot piece of plexiglass with an asteroids theme and I'm going to use that as the division. Plus I'll use those under the car lights to illuminate it :) that's it for now. I'll have new pics soon.
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: boykster on June 22, 2007, 07:38:20 pm
I guess as distracting as LED features on your panel?

Au contrere....my equipment rack is behind closed doors, so no distracting LED's. 
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: AtomSmasher on June 22, 2007, 08:15:19 pm
AS: what you fail to realise is that you're using comedy as a source of authority.
:laugh2:    I love that you think I'm making serious comments when I'm posting quotes from Seinfeld.
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: NightGod on June 22, 2007, 10:32:38 pm
I started raising the ceiling today I'm going to raise it 12 inches to compensate for the acoustic ceiling I have to install for the fibre optics. Most of the insulation is done (I'll never stop itching)
Grab a pair of nylons (make sure to ask your wife which ones she doesn't mind you using, first, natch) and drop a bar of soap in there then shower using that to scrub your body with-the nylon will get the little pieces of fiberglass out of your skin.

Also, be damn sure you don't wash the clothes you were wearing while putting up the insulation with anything else, especially underwear...shouldn't take much imagination to figure out why.

Got those tips from a guy who installed commercial ovens for a living-there's about 16 inches of fiberglass insulation surrounding those things and it gets put together like a puzzle, involving lots of time standing in one place holding up a big wall of insulation while it gets secured in place.
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: shardian on September 26, 2007, 11:40:49 am
bumping this since psik0tik said he was gonna add finished pics soon. ;D
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: urbecrisch on January 11, 2008, 12:31:30 am
Any progress?  PICS please!!
Title: Re: Mobile Arcade Room
Post by: shardian on January 11, 2008, 12:50:26 am
Any progress?  PICS please!!

Unfortunately, this product will not ever be finished because Eric, AKA psik0tik, died in a work related incident a while back. You can leave your thoughts in this thread:

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=74419.msg770201#msg770201