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Title: How to cut rectangular holes for speakers?
Post by: vidmouse on May 06, 2007, 08:30:41 pm
I'm leaning towards mounting my speakers through the panel, leaving their natural pc-face exposed... any recommendations on how to cut rectangular holes cleanly?
Title: Re: How to cut rectangular holes for speakers?
Post by: NiteWalker on May 06, 2007, 09:41:38 pm
Make a template out of MDF or plywood and use a router and flush trim or pattern bit to trim it up.
Title: Re: How to cut rectangular holes for speakers?
Post by: ChadTower on May 07, 2007, 10:56:47 am

If no router:  Use a drill to drill a hole just inside the line, then use whatever saw you have on hand to cut the square out.  Sand/square up with a chisel.  A jigsaw is great here but if you're only doing it once a keyhole saw is a very cheap alternative.
Title: Re: How to cut rectangular holes for speakers?
Post by: Joystick Jerk on May 08, 2007, 02:55:28 am
Make a template out of MDF or plywood and use a router and flush trim or pattern bit to trim it up.

Definitely works, but kind of overkill. The drill/jigsaw method will do you up good.
Title: Re: How to cut rectangular holes for speakers?
Post by: NiteWalker on May 08, 2007, 03:06:20 am
I'd say a tight fit is important because any gaps will let light seep through.
Title: Re: How to cut rectangular holes for speakers?
Post by: vidmouse on May 08, 2007, 06:11:27 am
The funny thing(s) is/are  that I currently:

> Have a router but only a slot cutting bit for it
> Have no jigsaw

 :dunno

I actually have some more tools coming... went a little
crazy this week and ordered a hole saw set, forstner bit
set, and router bit set which should be coming.  Didn't
order a jigsaw but was strongly considering it.

I did think of another option vs the rectangular hole but
I think the sound might suck... thought about just drilling
holes in a pattern through the panel wood, let the speakers
cover up and blast through the holes.  Somehow I don't think
it would sound very good, but has anyone tried this?
(or cut slots in wood, similar concept)
Title: Re: How to cut rectangular holes for speakers?
Post by: ChadTower on May 08, 2007, 06:50:50 am
I'd say a tight fit is important because any gaps will let light seep through.

You can bezel that, though, and we both know a jigsaw can cut a small rectangle accurately.
Title: Re: How to cut rectangular holes for speakers?
Post by: ChicagoDave on May 08, 2007, 09:53:19 am
I just drilled a big hole and then used a jigsaw to cut the hole the size of the speakers.

Here are some pics of the speaker installation:

http://www.davestojak.com/cabinet.htm (http://www.davestojak.com/cabinet.htm)
Title: Re: How to cut rectangular holes for speakers?
Post by: vidmouse on May 09, 2007, 08:32:56 am
Cool website; I like how it's organized.  It was very easy to see how you mounted those speakers but I don't think it will quite work for me... mine are way deeper than those.  My plan is to cut out the rectangular holes and use small L-brackets to hold them in place.
Title: Re: How to cut rectangular holes for speakers?
Post by: ChicagoDave on May 10, 2007, 06:56:35 am
Cool website; I like how it's organized.  It was very easy to see how you mounted those speakers but I don't think it will quite work for me... mine are way deeper than those.  My plan is to cut out the rectangular holes and use small L-brackets to hold them in place.


Thanks, and good luck on your project!
Title: Re: How to cut rectangular holes for speakers?
Post by: vidmouse on May 11, 2007, 12:22:57 pm
Ok I tried cutting a rectangular hole using my router on a piece of scrap MDF last night, it worked and is close, but the hole didn't have nice clean edges -- ie I'm afraid a lot of light will shine through if I do this with the real panel.  Any quick tips on straight edges for the router-newbie?
Title: Re: How to cut rectangular holes for speakers?
Post by: ChadTower on May 11, 2007, 12:28:29 pm

You'll have to elaborate on what you mean by "didn't have clean edges"... they should be nearly perfect with a router.
Title: Re: How to cut rectangular holes for speakers?
Post by: vidmouse on May 11, 2007, 12:38:14 pm
Looking down on the hole, the edges of the rectangle have a few bump-outs where I either nudged something w/ the router as I was dragging it, or just had an unsteady hand as I was pulling it.  As this was scrap and I wanted to see how good I could make it just by following pre-drawn lines, I did not use a template per Nitewalker's note above... which I'm not quite sure I understand, seems like you'd have to cut a rectangular hole to make a template anyway.  Do you ever use some kind of straightedge guide when using your router in this way?
Title: Re: How to cut rectangular holes for speakers?
Post by: ChadTower on May 11, 2007, 12:40:13 pm

I'm still learning too but if I wanted a perfectly straight edge I would use a straight edge guide.  I wouldn't bother with a template for a rectangle unless I had to cut it a bunch of times.

Perhaps you were trying to cut off too much in one pass.
Title: Re: How to cut rectangular holes for speakers?
Post by: NiteWalker on May 11, 2007, 12:53:49 pm
As this was scrap and I wanted to see how good I could make it just by following pre-drawn lines,

The problem was that you used the router freehand. For most cuts the router needs to be guided somehow.

Since it's only for one set of speakers a good way is to use a jigsaw to cut close to the layout lines and sand for a tight fit. If you make it a bit too big, try some high density foam weather stripping to seal the gaps. Look at timoe's thread on building a joystick recess routing jig. It gives good instructions on how to do what you want to, just adjust the dimensions to your speakers.
Title: Re: How to cut rectangular holes for speakers?
Post by: Chris G on May 11, 2007, 12:58:56 pm
I've found that going the router-route (ha) works much better than sanding.  Just clamp down a guide and use a flush-trim bit.  Comes out nearly perfect every time I've tried it so far and I'm a novice.  I guess for something you won't see like a speaker cutout, maybe it's not important to have it perfectly straight, but even so it seems faster too using the router.
Title: Re: How to cut rectangular holes for speakers?
Post by: NiteWalker on May 11, 2007, 01:00:56 pm
That would be my first choice too.
Anything that lets me use the router. ;D
Title: Re: How to cut rectangular holes for speakers?
Post by: Joystick Jerk on May 21, 2007, 08:20:21 am
If you're worried about light getting through hairline gaps between the speaker and MDF, just get some wide electrical tape or duct tape and use to cover where the speaker and MDF meet on the inside of the cab.
Title: Re: How to cut rectangular holes for speakers?
Post by: ChadTower on May 21, 2007, 08:28:23 am

Would tape stretched over a gap cause any vibration type issues?  I've seen things like that resonate with the sound, creating a buzz.  I bet he could easily get away with some type of foam rubber weatherstripping in that same space.
Title: Re: How to cut rectangular holes for speakers?
Post by: Joystick Jerk on May 21, 2007, 08:56:55 am
It could resonote if the gap was quite wide, but I wouldn't forsee any problems if they are just hairline gaps of a few millimeters at most.
Title: Re: How to cut rectangular holes for speakers?
Post by: javeryh on May 21, 2007, 06:15:01 pm
This is pretty easy if you have the proper tools and assuming that a very slight curve in each corner is acceptable.

1.  Layout your rectangle on the workpiece
2.  Measure in from each side by 1/8" (or less depending on how good you are with measurements and stuff) and make another "interior rectangle." Now in each corner you should have a reference point that is 1/8" in from the sides
3.  Using a 1/4" drill bit, drill out the 4 corners using the interior rectangle points as the center of the drill bit.  It helps to use a nail or screw to make an indentation on the point dso the bit does not slip.
4.  Using a jigsaw, freehand the rest of the rectangle staying about 1/8"-1/4" from the line which will remove the bulk of the material.
5.  Using a straight edge, some clamps (to hold the straightedge in place) and your router with a pattern making bit, remove the excess material exactly on the line (you have to do this for each side)
6.  Use a chisel if you really want to square up the corners but you probably don't have to.

I detail how to do this with pics HERE  (http://bellasarcade.blogspot.com/2006/12/day-8-coin-door-cutout.html) - I just cut out my coin door (so my rounded corners were a little severe) but the process is exactly the same.  Also check out HERE  (http://bellasarcade.blogspot.com/2007/01/day-9-more-of-crazy-bezel-panel.html) for detailed pictures of setting up the router and straight edge - actually, in this post I cut out a perfect rectangle.  Hope this helps.
Title: Re: How to cut rectangular holes for speakers?
Post by: unclet on May 22, 2007, 04:35:39 pm
I had hairline gaps around my marquee.  I went to a hobby store and pickup some cheap black felt (you know what felt is .... right?)    Then I simply stapled the felt around the gaps which stopped the light from seeping through.
Title: Re: How to cut rectangular holes for speakers?
Post by: miles2912 on May 22, 2007, 08:21:13 pm
When using a router you do not free-hand it.  Use a guide to make a straight line,  The problem is the corners.  You will need a chisel (yuck) or a jig saw to finish it.  javeryh's post has a link to an example.  Good stuff.

Don
Title: Re: How to cut rectangular holes for speakers?
Post by: Crowquill on May 26, 2007, 09:08:19 pm
To block light, I used some black craft foam from Wal-mart. Sheets that even have an adhesive backing were less than a dollar. I cut out the foam and left it to extend over the edge of the speaker. This served double-purpose as a spacer since I drilled the holes too small and the speaker's cone and surround couldn't vibrate properly (my speakers were "de-cased").