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Arcade Collecting => Miscellaneous Arcade Talk => Topic started by: shardian on April 11, 2007, 01:41:32 pm

Title: Does an original xevious have flashing start buttons?
Post by: shardian on April 11, 2007, 01:41:32 pm
I posted this in my pseudo-project thread, but noone has posted. I know several of you have had a xevious somewhere along the line.
Anyways, a Xevious came with lit start buttons, so I assume they flashed with credits. In Mame, Xevious does not have flashing start buttons. What gives?
Title: Re: Does an original xevious have flashing start buttons?
Post by: More Cowbell on April 11, 2007, 02:58:53 pm
I can confirm that Xevious has flashing start buttons when there are credits in.
Title: Re: Does an original xevious have flashing start buttons?
Post by: shardian on April 11, 2007, 03:31:29 pm
Then is this something worth reporting to the mame devs, or do they not care about flashing start buttons?
Title: Re: Does an original xevious have flashing start buttons?
Post by: ChadTower on April 11, 2007, 03:34:27 pm

I don't see why they would care about flashing start buttons.
Title: Re: Does an original xevious have flashing start buttons?
Post by: shardian on April 11, 2007, 03:35:17 pm

I don't see why they would care about flashing start buttons.

technically, that would be a hardware emulation issue.  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Does an original xevious have flashing start buttons?
Post by: ChadTower on April 11, 2007, 03:37:36 pm

Preserving the signal being sent would be... giving you a way to do it isn't.
Title: Re: Does an original xevious have flashing start buttons?
Post by: Tiger-Heli on April 11, 2007, 03:37:55 pm
MAMEDev changed the way start buttons were handled in the latest builds (I think).

Do not report it unless you have downloaded an official version of 0.114 and verified that start buttons work in Asteroid and bzone and not in xevious.

MORE - They care about flashing start buttons, but they are moving them to an external events code, along with backlighting in artwork, rather than just flashing the keyboard LED's.
Title: Re: Does an original xevious have flashing start buttons?
Post by: fredster on April 11, 2007, 03:53:08 pm
Atari was the only one to use flashing start buttons.  Right?

The newer versions weren't Atari.

Title: Re: Does an original xevious have flashing start buttons?
Post by: Tiger-Heli on April 11, 2007, 04:13:50 pm
Fredster has a point.  The parent rom Xevious is Namco and likely should not have the flashing start buttons.

Xeviousa, xeviousb, and xeviousc are atari and should have them.
Title: Re: Does an original xevious have flashing start buttons?
Post by: shardian on April 11, 2007, 04:31:37 pm
Fredster has a point.  The parent rom Xevious is Namco and likely should not have the flashing start buttons.

Xeviousa, xeviousb, and xeviousc are atari and should have them.

In my current setup, neither version of xevious has flashing. I don't have an updated romset for the new version of mame, and hardly anything from my set, 0.054, works in it.
Can someone else test it for me who has an updated set?
Title: Re: Does an original xevious have flashing start buttons?
Post by: Tiger-Heli on April 11, 2007, 04:47:22 pm
It's officially broken.

As of 107u4, you need to run LEDutil.exe in the background for the keyboard LED's to flash (with any set).

Just ran 0.114 and Asteroid flashes and none of the Xevious sets (didn't test xevios) flash.
Title: Re: Does an original xevious have flashing start buttons?
Post by: RayB on April 12, 2007, 11:10:00 am
I still use 0.96 and the LEDs did Flash in both the Atari and Namco rom sets.
Title: Re: Does an original xevious have flashing start buttons?
Post by: shardian on April 12, 2007, 03:23:50 pm
It's officially broken.

As of 107u4, you need to run LEDutil.exe in the background for the keyboard LED's to flash (with any set).

Just ran 0.114 and Asteroid flashes and none of the Xevious sets (didn't test xevios) flash.

Where can I get the LEDutil.exe? I've searched every way I can and can't find it.
Title: Re: Does an original xevious have flashing start buttons?
Post by: Tiger-Heli on April 12, 2007, 03:26:25 pm
LedUtil.exe is included with any of the recent official MAME binaries.

BTW, check your PM.
Title: Re: Does an original xevious have flashing start buttons?
Post by: shardian on April 12, 2007, 03:37:21 pm
duh... I'm a tard.
Title: Re: Does an original xevious have flashing start buttons?
Post by: Tiger-Heli on April 12, 2007, 03:52:43 pm
I'm a tard too.

I just tested with 0.96 to confirm what RayB posted.  The Namco set does not flash, but the Atari ones do (were you using Xevious - which is the namco set and not xevios which is a bootleg).

I tried again with 0.114 and the Atari sets are flashing.  (I think I was not waiting for the game to finish loading when I tested yesterday).

Sorry for the screw-up. :banghead:

UPDATE:  Namco sets are flashing in both 0.96 and 0.114.  I think I'll crawl under a rock for a few days!   :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :hissy:
Title: Re: Does an original xevious have flashing start buttons?
Post by: shardian on April 12, 2007, 04:29:22 pm
YAY!!! with .114 (with updated roms of course) the start buttons flash perfectly. Thanks everyone, especially Tiget Heli.

Title: Re: Does an original xevious have flashing start buttons?
Post by: Tiger-Heli on April 12, 2007, 04:33:10 pm
Thanks everyone, especially Tiget Heli.
Just think where you'd be without me saying it was broken!  :laugh2: