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Title: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: lcddream on May 10, 2006, 10:51:37 pm
http://www.joystiq.com/2006/05/10/super-smash-bros-brawl-revealed-for-wii-featuring-solid-snake/

edit: video link

http://streamingmovies.ign.com/revolution/article/707/707576/SBR_EN_revised_060502_wmvlowwide.wmv
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: Otraotaku on May 11, 2006, 12:04:31 am
darn you beat me here... heheh... but yeah solid snake has joined the greatest game franchise, I CANT WAIT, im hoping for sonic  (preferably knuckles) this time and maybe some more pokemon too....


PS: MetaKnight turned out amazing
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: freddykreuger666 on May 12, 2006, 02:14:07 pm
man this is pathetic
super smash bros is a kickass game, ill give nintendo that
its got all the "nintendo" chars in
but solid snake has been robbed off playstation
and they then shove in there nintendo char game
dont care wot console snake wos on first, but solid snake was made popular on the ps one
all nintendo do is nick all other console chars, have u seen mario on a non-nintendo console?
No, cos no 1 else wants to steal other consoles chars
nintendo are crap, can only make games with the same damn chars in since the first nintendo console came out
well long story short - solid snake been robbed off playstation and put in the nintendos "signature" game that should ONLY include crap nintendo chars.
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: horseboy on May 12, 2006, 02:50:33 pm
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Posted by: freddykreuger666  Posted on: Today at 02:14:07 PM 
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man this is pathetic
super smash bros is a kickass game, ill give nintendo that
its got all the "nintendo" chars in
but solid snake has been robbed off playstation
and they then shove in there nintendo char game
dont care wot console snake wos on first, but solid snake was made popular on the ps one
all nintendo do is nick all other console chars, have u seen mario on a non-nintendo console?
No, cos no 1 else wants to steal other consoles chars
nintendo are crap, can only make games with the same damn chars in since the first nintendo console came out
well long story short - solid snake been robbed off playstation and put in the nintendos "signature" game that should ONLY include crap nintendo chars.

Well, well, well, aren't you Mr. Know-it-none. Actully I remember about 19 or 20 years ago having tons of fun playing with old Mr. Solid Snake on my NINTENDO. NES to be exact. You see, Metal Gear was originally a title on the NES as well as the MSX2 and Commodore 64 computers. Metal Gear 2 also came out on the NES. So good old Solid Snake was on a Nintendo over 7 years before the first playstation was released in Japan.

Yes that's right. You have no clue what you are talking about.

And for the record, yes you have seen Mario on a non-nintendo console. Lots actually. He is the good guy in Donkey Kong, you know. Since Nintendo released the NES, though, Mario has for the most part been limited to Nintendo consoles because they make the Mario games and own the rights to Mario himself. They did also release 1 Mario game (and a Zelda one) for the CD-i some years back, but that console flopped so most people don't even know about that. Solid Snake is property of Konami. Konami releases games for all gaming consoles, so they can do with Snake as they please.
 :tool:
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: freddykreuger666 on May 12, 2006, 03:26:06 pm
dude, nobody knew solid snake --BINGO! Either that, or I was attempting to say "before" but it was too many letters to type-- the playstation
heck, only the total nintendo ass rapists knew there was solid snake on nes
but the playstation made him popular.
all nintendo consoles games are all mario this, zelda that
all games for little kiddies, not for ppl 10+
there aint 1 difference between super smash bros1 and melee, or zelda 1 and the new zelda
all the nintendo is, is cheap and cheerful piece of crap

Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: horseboy on May 12, 2006, 03:55:52 pm
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dude, nobody knew solid snake --BINGO! Either that, or I was attempting to say "before" but it was too many letters to type-- the playstation
heck, only the total nintendo ass rapists knew there was solid snake on nes
but the playstation made him popular.
all nintendo consoles games are all mario this, zelda that
all games for little kiddies, not for ppl 10+
there aint 1 difference between super smash bros1 and melee, or zelda 1 and the new zelda
all the nintendo is, is cheap and cheerful piece of crap

First, I would like to start off by thanking you. At least in this post you used a variant of the English language.

Now, on to your idiocy. You are an idiot.

Now, onto why that is. I will assure that there a number of NES "ass rapists" on this board. I can also assure you that there are a lot of poeple who rarely played a NES, but I guarantee you that at least 50% of the NES fans on this board over the age of twenty would list Metal Gear in thier top ten lists. Many people knew who Snake was before a Playstation was even dreamed up.

Now I know that you would probably not know any of this due to your age. Based on you intelligent and clever remarks as well as your mastery of the english language, I would guess that you were born about a week before the Playstation was released in Dec 1994. Now that probably sheds some light on your extreme Playstation fanboyness for everyone. You grew up with the thing. It was like a brother to you. I get it. The NES was old news and you only saw one in a museum somewhere one time. Nobody has ill-will towards you over that one, but to pretend that you know what you are talking about when you clearly do not makes you look like almost as much of an moron as your gramr skilz du.
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: Luxury on May 12, 2006, 04:29:57 pm
ANNNNYYY ways....getting back on track here,

Pit looks awesome.  He's been a long time coming, and seems like a perfect fit for the game.

BTW - who is MetaKnight?  I'm guessing a character from Kirby?
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: horseboy on May 12, 2006, 04:46:46 pm
Sorry, I just had to let little Billy know how it was.
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: freddykreuger666 on May 12, 2006, 06:27:59 pm
i see another nintendo ass rapist
come on u gotta admit that the same game has been made over and over
e.g zelda, mario etc.
the nes kicked serious ass i had one wen i was younger
but nintendo have made identical stuff for the past 20 years
and mate it's a forum so to save time ppl write shorter
if u can't understand it then u too old to be playing zelda games
they shud have age restriction of 10 or below
anyways all the "new" nintendo stuff is crap. People who love zelda and mario have some duty to buy every mario zelda game that comes out
even tho its exactly the same as wot it was on the nes


Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: horseboy on May 12, 2006, 08:00:44 pm
"Shud" and "wot." Wow, making a word one letter shorter sure does make the typing go a lot quicker. I suppose that it doesn't matter that it is totally unreadable to some other people.

So, you are saying that Super Mario Bros. and Mario 64 are pretty much the same game. That is absurd (that is translated to "ubsrd" in your native langauge of AOL). They have the same characters, but that is about it. Same goes for Zelda. Just because a game uses the same characters doesn't mean that it is the same game.

Funny that this whole ordeal started when you were mad that Snake was going to be on a Nintendo. You say that they keep making the same Mario and Zelda games over and over again. Well counting the original Metal Gear Solid, the Metal Gear franchise has spawned 13 games. Yeah, I am sure that all of those are totally unique (uneek).
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: wana10 on May 12, 2006, 08:11:17 pm
on topic: kick ass, loved the part with snake doing recon work  ;D ive always liked 2d fighters more than 3d fighters and i love that smash bros is a 2d fighter(even if it does have 3d visuals...wait a second :dizzy:  :) )

off topic: to freddyk.666 read the ---Bad words, bad words, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when saint censors you?--- article. KOJIMA asked NINTENDO to add snake to the game. Secondly, and please be honest, it takes as much time to type improperly in leet speak than it does to type regular recognizable words. If you instictively type in leet then i would hate to have to edit one of your papers. (hell on earth right there- next to tax forms)
secondly, your response that all nintendo games are merely improvements over past games...welcome to the video game industry. lets start with the big sellers shall we? *enter sport here* 2002,2003,2004,2005,2006,2007; tony hawk 1,2,3,4,5,6; halo 1,2; dynasty warriors 1,2,3,4,5; sonic the hedgehog 1,2,3; noticing a trend? Hell, even metal gear. you know in every game there will be plot twists up the wazoo, long cutscenes, kickass gameplay, and of course, A METAL GEAR. so dont point only at nintendo...
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: horseboy on May 12, 2006, 08:42:01 pm
Right on wana10. This guy knows just as much about video games as my sisters 5 year old twins do. What a moron.
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: pointdablame on May 13, 2006, 12:08:43 am
dude, nobody knew solid snake --BINGO! Either that, or I was attempting to say "before" but it was too many letters to type-- the playstation
heck, only the total nintendo ass rapists knew there was solid snake on nes
but the playstation made him popular.
all nintendo consoles games are all mario this, zelda that
all games for little kiddies, not for ppl 10+
there aint 1 difference between super smash bros1 and melee, or zelda 1 and the new zelda
all the nintendo is, is cheap and cheerful piece of crap



aren't you like 15 years old?

Even if you aren't.... you have absolutely NO CLUE what you are talking about.  Metal Gear was pretty damn popular back on the NES.  The PSX may have made him popular to YOU, but many people knew of the game beforehand.

I'm not even a huge Nintendo fan, but that kind of crap needs to be defended.  You need to go take a better look at things before you fling some Sony fanboy crap like that around.

And for the record, your typing makes you look sound a retard.  Sorry, its not that time consuming to form coherent sentences and spell words correctly.
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: Kremmit on May 13, 2006, 02:42:20 am
and mate it's a forum so to save time ppl write shorter
if u can't understand it then u too old to be playing zelda games

Du U think in ur language?  Or do you think in English and then translate as you type? 

I understand using shortcuts when you're trying to type a text message on a little tiny phone keypad, but when you have a full qwerty keyboard, unless you type with two fingers, how much time do you really think you save?

Not ALL internet forums speak AOL.  Look around.
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: mccoy178 on May 13, 2006, 03:21:24 am
Is this Schmokes little brother? :blah:
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: horseboy on May 13, 2006, 03:57:39 am
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Is this Schmokes little brother?


Wot iz dat gie a totl tulebag 2
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: missioncontrol on May 13, 2006, 09:06:23 am
Bla bla bla ass rapist
bla bla bla nes
bla bla bla


dude you are a complete  :tool: grow up a few years and come back when you mature....
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: Zakk on May 13, 2006, 12:43:15 pm
You guys leave freddykrreuger666 alone!  He's teh coolest "campy-80's-horror-character-number-of-the-devil-idiot-typing-12-year-old" that we have around here!  Plus he haz awesum typing skilz!  he roks!  666 whooooo!  rok on brutha!  number of tha beast omg !!!1!!!!!
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: odysseyroc on May 13, 2006, 01:38:24 pm
nintendpwned
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: mccoy178 on May 13, 2006, 02:03:24 pm
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Is this Schmokes little brother?


Wot iz dat gie a totl tulebag 2

Yes I think.
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: Tahnok on May 13, 2006, 05:11:35 pm
Zero suit samus? What an odd character to add. I suppose its the best next samus, since all others would be nothing more than a slight model and color change. But how is she going to attack? The whole thing with the scene was that she doesn't have any attack except for the weak emergency stun laser.
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: freddykreuger666 on May 13, 2006, 05:17:21 pm
well i cant wait for both consoles to come out
then we'll see which console is better
ps2 > nintendo sales
ps 1 > n64
psp > nds
its just cos ps2 has more varied games based for all ages
nintendo is only good for doing the retro games
the classic nintendo games were good, but updated retro games just arent good
just google the sales of playstation vs modern nintendo consoles
then we see whos laughing
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: DrewKaree on May 13, 2006, 06:23:45 pm
Which sold more, the Pinto or the Pacer?  That'll tell me which one "more roxxored, dood" ::)

When did sales equate to quality, or does your logic come from AOL as well as your "speek"?

Here's a comparison for you.  The Saleen S7 will sell tens of tens of thousands less than an Acura RSX.  You're the biggest idiot on the planet if you'd prefer the Acura over the Saleen.  Still want to go with the "quantity of sales = better"?

Many aspects go into what people determine makes something "better", and quantity of sales, unless you're a doofus, doesn't even make the list unless you're some tool who has a little graph with EVERY feature on it and you're deadlocked on everything else until you get to the "total sales" row.  If that's how you're making your decisions, you deserve the mediocre sheep-like existence you're striving to maintain.
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: pointdablame on May 13, 2006, 07:06:40 pm
well i cant wait for both consoles to come out
then we'll see which console is better
ps2 > nintendo sales
ps 1 > n64
psp > nds
its just cos ps2 has more varied games based for all ages
nintendo is only good for doing the retro games
the classic nintendo games were good, but updated retro games just arent good
just google the sales of playstation vs modern nintendo consoles
then we see whos laughing

You might not sound like such an idiot if you actually looked at some facts.  The Nintendo DS is selling way more than the PSP recently, and I say this as an avid PSP owner who doesn't yet have a DS.

Again... you sound like a moron fanboy... all factless arguments with "proof" that you are "right"
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: horseboy on May 13, 2006, 07:09:36 pm
Guys, I have to start by saying that apparently Lil Freddy told his mom that all the older guys were being mean to him. His mom called my mom, and the only way I don't get grounded is if I tell you guys to lay off.

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well i cant wait for both consoles to come out
then we'll see which console is better
ps2 > nintendo sales
ps 1 > n64
psp > nds
its just cos ps2 has more varied games based for all ages
nintendo is only good for doing the retro games
the classic nintendo games were good, but updated retro games just arent good
just google the sales of playstation vs modern nintendo consoles
then we see whos laughing

Well, Fredster, maybe you should change your screen name to playstationfanboyextraordinaire (or psxfanboidood). Just to let you know, I personally have 7 friends that had to buy 2 playstations because the first one broke. I also know 5 doods that have had to buy 2 PS2s for the same reason, and 2 of those guys are on #3. Just to let you know, I found a N64 in a buddy's backyard that had been there for over a week. It had even rained a couple of time, but we brought it back in and it still worked.

Now, you don't suppose that all of the millions of Playstations and PS2s that crapped out could have skewed those sales numbers, do you?

Also, you should probably do another google search to and see which game company has made the most money over that same period. Nintendo by a long shot. Selling hundreds of millions of games at a huge profit sure beats selling millions of consoles at a loss.
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: DrewKaree on May 13, 2006, 07:24:29 pm
Guys, I have to start by saying that apparently Lil Freddy told his mom that all the older guys were being mean to him. His mom called my mom, and the only way I don't get grounded is if I tell you guys to lay off.

Don't worry.  I'll stop by his house and "talk" to his mom.  Not only won't you be grounded, I bet you get a raise in your allowance for all your help ;)

Stop confusing this entire issue with facts and figures.  More useless conjecture, and FOR THE LOVE OF PETE, WOULD EVERYONE PLEASE TYPE ILLEGIBLY SO FREDDY CAN READ WHAT YOU'RE SAYING?

freddie translation:
j00 r0xx0r3d R b0xx0rz w8 uR m4dd d0p3 tiHInKinG 5k33lz, y0!
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: saint on May 14, 2006, 12:33:20 am
Gah!  Speak English people.  Freddie - please at least make an attempt at something remotely resembling proper grammer.

Thank you.

--- saint

er... owner - of this forum.

Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: alexandro98 on May 14, 2006, 01:15:07 am
Oh! Oh!
I can't help myself!

Gah!  Speak English people.  Freddie - please at least make an attempt at something remotely resembling proper grammer.

Thank you.

--- saint

er... owner - of this forum.



pwned!
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: lcddream on May 14, 2006, 02:13:10 am
yeah

ds is doing far better than psp in sales.

software and hardware.
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: Howard_Casto on May 14, 2006, 02:37:06 am
Just to fan more flames on the fire (only because the sacred nes was insulted):

Sony, while being high in console sales hasn't contirbuted ANYTHING substancial in the last 15 years or so they've been in the console wars.  If anything they make games (and game systems) for people that really don't play games.  

Let's look at the major titles they've brought to the table:

Twisted Metal (the series pretty much died after tm2 though)

GTA... no wait that was originally for the pc and developed by rockstar.

Final Fantasy..... nope that was well established on the famicom and super famicom long before sony got the rights

Metal Gear ... nope again, was on the nes/famicom a good 7 years before

God of war... while technically sony, I personally preferred the title when it was released a few years prior and called PRINCE OF PERSIA

ok so no significant software contributions to be had... surely they did something

let's look at the hardware:

controller..... nope they ripped that off from the snes

rumble feature... nope, they ripped that off from nintendo as well, and actually got sued for it

3d gaming....  well bad 3d gaming yes...  They stole the concept from the pc and made some of the worst 3d games known to man.  Only after the n64 had established itself, and the great mario 64 came out did they have material to ripp off from nintendo again, and thus started to make good 3d games.

Now just as a contrast let's look at what the other companies gave us:

nintendo:

mario, zelda and metroid along with more franchises than one could count

the basic gamepad configuration that ALL companies base their controllers off of

rumble pack

the first analog stick on a gamepad

the first dance mat (remember the power pad?)

the first system capable of a near-direct arcade port (snes)

the first portable gaming system

the first 3d platformer (that didn't suck)

Sega:

Sonic and virtually every major sports franchise, including the legendary madden football

The dreamcast, which came with such innovations as the first mic-enabled games as well as the first experiments in a secondary display.  


Microsoft:  

The first console with pc-like architecture (something all the companies are doing now).  

The first console with a harddrive.  

The first working, online gaming experience on a console, with working voice and reliable servers.  

Xbox arcade.  



So if anything, Sony has always been the lamest of the major companies.  Mind you they sell well, but that is only due to the exclusive third-party liscenses they seem to strong arm their way into.  They always have the worst hardware and the worst, first-party games.  The only reason they even made it into the console race was because of the sega cd being a piece of junk and the psone being the only (viable) console with a cdrom drive at a time when putting useless, full-motion videos into a game was all the rage.  The only reason it remained in the race for the second round was because japan had a shortage of cheap dvd players and the ps2 actually became the first readily available dvd player in japan.  This round, they have essentially already killed themselves with the lack of exclusive liscenses and the insaine 600 dollar price tag, not to mention the inclusion of a blue ray player, which isn't even an established format yet and adds nothing to actual gameplay, only raising the price of the unit.  Also the ps3 uses a strange method of co-processor integration, which makes it difficult to code for, so the slight performance edge it has will even out considering 90% of your third-party companies aren't talented enough to take advantage of it.  

So in short, enjoy the playstation 3 because, short of a miracle on sony's part it very well may sony's last console.  Of course that's just my opinion and the opinion of several critics in the game industry.  Also, this is just personal opinon, but ripping off nintendo's motion detection hardware at the last minute immediately after losing a lawsuit over the rumble pack they also stole was not only class-less but a pitiful attempt to find a gimmick to get them back in the race.

The innovator of the software market is nintendo, always has, always will be.  Microsoft will also be a very prominent figure in years to come, particularly in future markets like online play.  Actually m$'s success is almost un-heard of considering they have only been in the race for 5 years.  Kinda sad actually.. m$ has accomplished more in 5 years than sony has in about 15.  


Oh and btw I played metal gear all the time on my nes, great game and VERY memorable.  The ony reason you even see mgs on the sony consoles now is because nintendo made the mistake of leaving out a cd drive on the n64 and by the time the gamecube came out, sony wrangled them into a psuedo-exclusive deal.  


Getting back on topic... I think the new Smash Brother's additions are quite appropriate.  Glad to see Pit back on a system.  Glad to see Snake  in there too.  My only complaint is that they haven't added enough classic characters... this is next-gen, they should add more than you can count.  The punch-out characters come to mind in-particular.  

Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: SNAAKE on May 14, 2006, 02:51:24 am
am I the only one not exicited at all ?? meh..SSB engine is so boring I dunno how people play this for more than 10-15 min. I will stick to capcom fighters I guess.
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: Tahnok on May 14, 2006, 04:33:57 am
am I the only one not exicited at all ?? meh..SSB engine is so boring I dunno how people play this for more than 10-15 min. I will stick to capcom fighters I guess.

If you play standard fighters a lot, you may have a hard time getting used to SSB. If you play it expecting it to act like others, you will be severely disappointed. Give it some time to get used to the style and characters and you will fall in love with it. I personally didn't like it at all until I actually owned the game.
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: alexandro98 on May 14, 2006, 11:37:20 am
SSB in my opinion is a party game.  The one player modes was a joke.  BUT once you get 4 people gathered around and started in on it, trash talking each other and you SMASH your cool LINK friend off the screen with just a pickachu ... Priceless! 

However once everyone left, I just put the game away because it just wasnt fun then.  This time might be different because of online, Im hoping to just pick it up and go online and find a experience close to when I have a bunch of friends over. If the online is handled right, this game could be GREAT!  But if not, I'll just fall back to Zelda. hehe
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: MajorLag on May 14, 2006, 02:48:53 pm
SSB was the first "fighting" game I think I've ever enjoyed playing because it doesn't require you to memorize excutiatingly well timed 12  button combos in order to be good at it. And throwing stuff at people is just too fun. Come to think of it, those are the same reasons I loved Power Stone 2.
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: brophog on May 17, 2006, 02:51:04 am
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The only reason they even made it into the console race was because of the sega cd being a piece of junk and the psone being the only (viable) console with a cdrom drive at a time when putting useless, full-motion videos into a game was all the rage.


Actually, they never intended to do that much. The idea behind the playstation was as a CD-rom add-on for the SNES, but they couldn't finalize a deal with Nintendo. At that point, they'd invested so much effort into the project that they decided to release it themselves.

I agree with you on Sony's lack of contribution to video game consoles. In fact, to this day, I hold to the idea that Sony never would have made it had it not been for the ease of pirating games in the PSONE era. Pirating led to hardware market share, and that subsequently led to outside developers producing games. Sony has been living off that market share through both console generations.
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: iamnaeth on May 17, 2006, 04:21:56 pm
Let me first start this by saying, freddykreuger666, you suck.  Not only do you present a poor argument but you don't actually stick around to defend yourself.   Moving on to more pertinent information.  I'm actually really excited about this game for 1 reason.  Online play, that way if you couldn't find 3 other friends to come over you can still have a crazy SSB game!
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: freddykreuger666 on May 17, 2006, 06:29:40 pm
nah i dont suck
i just gave up the argument cos i couldnt be bothered to compete vs nintendo bum rapists, like you
o well i better stop before i get banned
i just cant wait to see playstation 3 wipe the floor with nintendo
like they always do
more sales, even though its more expensive shows youu its better quality
same with all other products
i dunno how im being called a ps2 fanboy, when your all nintendo fan boys
o well i better quit before i get banned
then i wont have the excellent help when i start building me first cab
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: DaveMMR on May 17, 2006, 06:33:53 pm

then i wont have the excellent help when i start building me first cab


You should be more concerned with getting help with your spelling and grammer.   

And stop accusing Nintendo of forced sodomy just because you don't like their games.
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: horseboy on May 17, 2006, 07:40:50 pm

then i wont have the excellent help when i start building me first cab


Aaaaaarggghhh matey. I want the help when I build me cab as well. Aaarrggghhh.
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: horseboy on May 17, 2006, 07:42:41 pm
By the way Fredster, it is quite apparent to everyone who the real fanboy here is. You made blatantly fanboyish remarks, and everyone else just told you why those comments made you an idiot. Fanboy.
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: brophog on May 17, 2006, 08:43:26 pm
more sales, even though its more expensive shows youu its better quality


Not even close. Are you perhaps new to America? Here, sales are generated mostly by marketing and price. Quality is a distant third.
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: alexandro98 on May 18, 2006, 12:05:43 am
more sales, even though its more expensive shows youu its better quality


Not even close. Are you perhaps new to America? Here, sales are generated mostly by marketing and price. Quality is a distant third.

Sigh, aint that the truth.  Just take a look at wally world err ... walmart.
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: freddykreuger666 on May 18, 2006, 07:42:02 am
dudes just by buying a mario game or zelda game is being a fanboy
cos mario has been the same since the nes
he aint changed, neither has his games
u all just feel u HAVE to buy his games, even tho u've grown out of em
zelda and mario are like pokemon or teletubbies or wotever
u watch em till a certain age, then get too old and move onto something for ur own age
mario is for 12 years max, childish humour, easy gameplay + same characters over and over again , thats what kids love
aint my fault nintendo are too pikey to afford marketing
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: mccoy178 on May 18, 2006, 07:53:34 am
So, let me get this straight.  You get shutdown in one direction, when you tried to use the numbers game, and now you are going with the "what is cooler" approach?  Pick an attack and stick with it.  BTW, I didn't know you could use the internet at school.  Your 8th grade teacher is going to be upset. :angry:
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: freddykreuger666 on May 18, 2006, 09:10:41 am
being a kid is way better then being an adult
anyways ur all nintendo fanboys here cos ur all against playstation
all the modern nintendo consoles have been wiped out by playstation
cos its new, fresh and dont include the same old crap nintendo characters that have been re-made to death
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: Zakk on May 18, 2006, 10:46:03 am
Well as long as you fight for a cause that is worthwhile, everything is right in the world.

Now shoo, mommy is calling you for dinner, cool kid.
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: brophog on May 18, 2006, 10:59:40 am
anyways ur all nintendo fanboys here cos ur all against playstation
all the modern nintendo consoles have been wiped out by playstation
cos its new, fresh and dont include the same old crap nintendo characters that have been re-made to death


Why did you choose this thread to post your fight? No one here is being a fanboy but you! You have no cause on this thread or this board. There are plenty of real nintendo fanboys out there........go find them.

As to the playstation's greatness.......if they are so great, how come a company that exclusively makes video games is still alive and well? For nintendo to be "wiped out" that would mean they were no longer in business. Of course, that isn't true.

As to the new and fresh comment.....see previous posts. Playstation hasn't done anything new and fresh. They're copycats.
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: shmokes on May 18, 2006, 11:56:26 am
C'mon, Sony has innovated lots.  First console with a DVD drive, Eyetoy, pressure sensitive buttons, Gran Turismo, God of War, NFL Gameday (great at one time), first 3D console, didn't rape developers with licensing/manufacturing fees (which is how they stole the market from Nintendo).  They have also had a significantly better library of games than Nintendo for the past two generations due to FAR superior third party support.

Clearly Freddy is a moron and masochistically refuses to play most of the greatest games ever made out of unreasonable loyalty to a company that he is not employed by, but y'all should take care that you don't start sounding like him.

And you gotta admit, his bizarre habit of structuring his posts as though they were poetry is pretty ---smurfing--- hillarious.
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: freddykreuger666 on May 18, 2006, 12:14:47 pm
a working adult playing a video game - pathetic
an adult playing a nintendo game - now thats pathetic
playstation is makes so much different varied games
anyways why u bad mouthing kids, they have more fun and less stress
just cos u jealous of their easy life
a fanboy is basically a person that HAS to buy a mario/zelda game
cos these are the only 2 games on nintendo , it makes them a nintendo fanboy.
and who really cares about "structuring a post"
its only a forum, which means it aint a formal business letter damit
who cares how i write, erm not me
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: shmokes on May 18, 2006, 12:25:07 pm

a working adult playing a video game - pathetic


Uh oh, Freddy.  Your loyalty to Sony is faltering.  The majority of Sony's customers ARE working adults.  In fact, how can you simultaneously criticize Nintendo for appealing only to kids while criticizing adults for playing videogames.  Aren't those two things a bit at odds with eachother?

And I fully agree, being a kid IS far superior to being an adult.  In fact, adults pretty much suck.
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: pointdablame on May 18, 2006, 12:30:36 pm
a working adult playing a video game - pathetic

Um.. the average age of game players currently is somewhere in the mid 20's... so no, it isn't pathetic.  You're an idiot.

an adult playing a nintendo game - now thats pathetic

NOT playing a game simply because it's made by Nintendo is retarded.  I'm not a Nintendo fanboy, I'm a fan of GOOD GAMES.  You're pathetic for hating a company so much just because you think they are "not cool"  You're an idiot.

playstation is makes so much different varied games

Compared to Nintendo or Microsoft, how do they make varied games?  Every system has that handful of games that are unique to the system, then they all have fighteres, sims, platformers, racing games, etc etc.  Again, you're an idiot.

anyways why u bad mouthing kids, they have more fun and less stress
just cos u jealous of their easy life

I'm so sure we are all jealous of you... your wonderful use of the english language. You're fantastic debating skills.  You're opnemindedness.  Your tact in responding to people without calling them "poopyheads"  Yeah...we're all real jealous.   Guess what?  You're an idiot.

a fanboy is basically a person that HAS to buy a mario/zelda game
cos these are the only 2 games on nintendo , it makes them a nintendo fanboy.

No.  A fanboy is someone who loves one gaming company and unnecessarily HATES another for silly and childish reasons.  Just like how you hate Nintendo for no good reasons.  Get it through your head... not every Mario game is the same.  Not every Nintendo game is childish.  That is your 12 year old excuse for hating Nintendo and being a total Sony fanboy.  Not one other person in this thread has shown fanboy-ish tendencies besides yourself.  You look like a fool because of it.  oh, and you're an idiot.

and who really cares about "structuring a post"
its only a forum, which means it aint a formal business letter damit
who cares how i write, erm not me

By actually structuring your post, others can read and comprehend it better.  No one likes to read "yo r u 2 cool for mario lik me is?  Coz I are t3h best and so r Sony!!1one!"  Grow up.


.....


and you're an idiot.
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: shmokes on May 18, 2006, 12:34:06 pm
Speaking of Pit, didn't Samus appear for the first time on a next-gen system in Super Smash Bros., shortly before Metroid Prime came out?  Is this a harbinger of things to come?  Are we about to see a new Kid Icaris?  Something tells me the answer to that question is yes.
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: pointdablame on May 18, 2006, 12:42:53 pm
Speaking of Pit, didn't Samus appear for the first time on a next-gen system in Super Smash Bros., shortly before Metroid Prime came out?  Is this a harbinger of things to come?  Are we about to see a new Kid Icaris?  Something tells me the answer to that question is yes.

On a similar vein, I hope Nintendo starts integrating older games with new Wii games.  Buy the new Kid Icarus and get the old game for their virtual console.  New Metroid Prime?  You get Super Metroid for SNES with it.

I think its a good idea anyway :)
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: brophog on May 18, 2006, 12:45:57 pm
C'mon, Sony has innovated lots.  First console with a DVD drive, Eyetoy, pressure sensitive buttons, Gran Turismo, God of War, NFL Gameday (great at one time), first 3D console, didn't rape developers with licensing/manufacturing fees (which is how they stole the market from Nintendo). 

They haven't innovated a fraction of what they've stolen, and what little they have innovated has had a fraction of the impact on the gaming world as what they've stolen........

Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: Zakk on May 18, 2006, 01:19:12 pm
anyways why u bad mouthing kids, they have more fun and less stress
just cos u jealous of their easy life

Hate to buy you a clue fella (but I'm sure it's not allowance day yet), but we aren't bad mouthing kids, in fact, I like my 4 quite well.  What we ARE badmouthing is YOU.   

If it makes you feel better, my 2 year old thinks you are quite intelligent.  Seems like your posts are the only ones he can understand.  :laugh2:
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: horseboy on May 18, 2006, 01:24:25 pm
anyways why u bad mouthing kids, they have more fun and less stress
just cos u jealous of their easy life

Actually Freddy, we are jealous because we had to go to school at a time when you couldn't even get out of elementary school with grammar like yours.

Idiot.
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: freddykreuger666 on May 18, 2006, 01:38:12 pm
dude, grammar dont matter for a damn forum
its only a forum and thats it
rename this forum to nintendobumrapists.com
cos im surrounded by em
average age of gamers is definetely lower then mid 20's
maybe thats just crappy america for ya where adults play videogames cos they got no social life. when i went america for holiday there wasnt even a nightlife at all, was boring after theme parks, not suprised u have to play childish nintendo games
think about it - all nintendo games except a few they nicked off other consoles, have little to no difficulty
pointdablame how am i an idiot, cant spell openmindedness?
bet u were bullied as a kid, thats why u didnt like ur child years
i understand, thats why ur so obsessed with proving every 1 wrong
zakk u actually laughed at ur own joke, thats pathetic, cos it just wasnt funny

Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: horseboy on May 18, 2006, 01:46:20 pm

maybe thats just crappy america for ya where adults play videogames cos they got no social life. when i went america for holiday there wasnt even a nightlife at all, was boring after theme parks, not suprised u have to play childish nintendo games

What kind of nightlife could you possibly have when you are a 13 year old with the mind of a 7 year old and the grammar of a labrador.
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: DaveMMR on May 18, 2006, 01:53:23 pm

On a similar vein, I hope Nintendo starts integrating older games with new Wii games.  Buy the new Kid Icarus and get the old game for their virtual console.  New Metroid Prime?  You get Super Metroid for SNES with it.

I think its a good idea anyway :)

As long as they don't make people buy a link cable and complete another game for the portable to unlock it ala Metroid Prime. 

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rename this forum to nintendobumrapists.com
cos im surrounded by em
average age of gamers is definetely lower then mid 20's
maybe thats just crappy america for ya where adults play videogames cos they got no social life.

Why do you make fun of people who play videogames when you obviously play them yourself?  Most people who don't like videogames wouldn't be spending all their time talking about how much better the PS is than the Wii.  They wouldn't even care.

Secondly, spelling and grammer is important on the internet - even if only fo-net-ick-lee.  The way you type is the text equivlant of giving a speech with an apple crammed in your mouth.

By the way, I have a friend who types exactly like you on the internet and also gets defensive when people call him on it.  He sounds like he's 12.  He's actually a 22-year old graduate student.  Ridicuolous.  Why spend all that money on higher education when you can't even grasp the basics of a second grade one.

On another topic - I saw the trailer for the new SSB and now I definately want a Wii, despite Freddy's objections.  Gotta love them bumrapers.
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: horseboy on May 18, 2006, 01:54:51 pm
average age of gamers is definetely lower then mid 20's

Well according to Wikipedia the average is 30
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game)

Same with the Entertainment Software Association
http://www.theesa.com/facts/top_10_facts.php (http://www.theesa.com/facts/top_10_facts.php)
Wow, and 19% of them are over 50.

But who really knows? They just did some silly scientific research. That simply can't be as accurate as Freddy's uneducated guess.

Oh, and thanks Freddy. It took me 20 minutes to clean the sh*t off of that quote because you pulled it out of your ass.

Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: shmokes on May 18, 2006, 01:57:31 pm
Freddy, maybe this will suit you better.  It's a BBC (That's a British news organization in case you are too young to know anything) article about a study done by the European Leisure Software Publishers Association that says that:

". . . the average age of the keenest players is gradually edging upwards.

The results of the survey revealed that the largest game-playing group is actually aged between 25 and 34. "


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/1918554.stm

The article goes on to say that:

" Allied research carried out by the games magazine PC Zone found that these ageing, avid players are typically in the top social groups, have an average annual income of about
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: freddykreuger666 on May 18, 2006, 02:10:41 pm
dude u put so much effort into proving me wrong
making yourself feel mature its getting pathetic
nobody believes that survey crap, cos only mature adults are bothered to take part in it, like you of course
how come all adults think they're really clever, basically take it as this -
i got 70 odd years to live, you got what 40?
bet you use spellcheck feature to write ur forums posts
and get your kids to check it over for grammar mistakes


Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: Luxury on May 18, 2006, 02:11:42 pm
I keep wondering why you always say Nintento are ass/bum rapists.  When in fact they only analy raped me on 3 occasions. 

Let me clear up something else for you my dear sir.  Nintendo makes Nintendo games, Sony makes Sony games, Microsoft makes Microsoft games.  These are called "First Party".  Nintendo includes all the games you have previously mentioned like Mario, Zelda, Metroid and countless others.  Sony makes Jak and Daxter, Ratchet and Clank, Gran Turismo, and a few others.  Microsoft  - well I'm not going to get into them because this thread only seems to deal with Nintendo and Sony.

Now we have something called "Third Party".  These are the Konami's, Namco's, Capcom's, Square-Enix's, EA's, Activision's and more.  They release games for damn near every console depending on different factors. 

Now lets compare the differences of the 2.  You say that Nintendo only releases the same Mario game over and over.  Well guess what?  There have been 6 Jak and Daxter games in the last 5 years alone.  There have been 4 (i think) Ratchet and Clanks, 4 Gran Turismos.  And that's just Sony.  Let me spell it out for you - they are doing the exact same thing Nintendo is doing!  Release the same games over and over!  Now lets look at the third party developers.  Firstly - your beloved Konami - makers of Metal Gear Solid (what started this entire argument if I recall).  They have released at least 10 that I can think of off the top of my head Metal Gear games.  That's essentially the SAME GAME OVER AND OVER - or as we in the adult world call "sequels".  Every publisher on that list above is guilty of it to a massive degree.  Capcom?  Just take a look at how many Megaman games there are.  EA?  New sports games every year exactly like the year before it.  S-E?  Ever heard of Final Fantasy?  Yes they are up to 13, but count in all the remakes, handheld ports and everything and I would bet that they are hovering around 100 different Final Fantasy iterations.  Take-Two?  How many GTA's have they released in the last 5 years?  Nobody is above sequels. 

You starting to see the error in your ways?  I doubt it.  That would take an attention span of more than 3 seconds.  And judging by your posts, I would say yours only goes to 2. 
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: horseboy on May 18, 2006, 02:18:09 pm
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Firstly - your beloved Konami - makers of Metal Gear Solid (what started this entire argument if I recall).  They have released at least 10 that I can think of off the top of my head Metal Gear games.

13 actually. I counted. :cheers:

Oh and btw Freddy, you are an idiot.
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: Zakk on May 18, 2006, 02:18:45 pm
Freddy, I spanked yur mom today for making you so stupid.  However, she really seemed to like it, so I guess that was a bad idea.  Now I have to buy her a carton of cigs.

You know why we all learned how to red and writ good?  So that we can understand warning sings on things.  I'd say with your level of education you'll be killed long before your expectancy of 70 years.  Like the tiny print on the paint can that says "can be fatal if inhaled".  I'm BETTING you missed that one.

I'll call you sniffy from now on.  Tell me, is the gold paint really better?

Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: freddykreuger666 on May 18, 2006, 02:36:44 pm
the mum jokes gonna start happening hey?
thought only little kids say pathetic stuff like that
well i start u off - your mums so fat that she aint as pathetic as u to start slagging off peoples mums
absolutely pathetic dude
just cause your living in america you know i cant go round their and smash your cars up and stuff, you would never slag anyone off to their face, cos u know you'll get battered
anyways - 13 games? please try harder to prove your or someone elses point
ur wife like a bowling ball, finger her twice and throw her down a dark alley and she still comes back for more
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: pointdablame on May 18, 2006, 02:49:12 pm
pointdablame how am i an idiot, cant spell openmindedness?
bet u were bullied as a kid, thats why u didnt like ur child years
i understand, thats why ur so obsessed with proving every 1 wrong
zakk u actually laughed at ur own joke, thats pathetic, cos it just wasnt funny



actually, I had a wonderful childhood, and I'm only 22, so it's just barely ended.  And I'm not obsessed with proving people wrong.  I just hate when idiots like yourself come in here and start flame wars with absolutely NO FACT.  I tell you for a fact that the average age of gamers is 25+ years old, and then you go and say "nuh uh, you is stoopid, only kids play games"   Then people post links to surveys and studies about it and you say you can't trust them?  WHY?   why exactly are the surveys wrong?  They are based on worldwide sales, registration info for games, and people being asked in person for the info.  It is NOT only based on adults, and it is not "pathetic"   You are an absolute moron and you have yet to put any fact into your argument.

All you do is come in and say we are all Nintendo assbumrapewhores, or whatever the hell you try to spell in your 8th grade engrish.

Again, why are we Nintendo fanboys?  Explain it for me.... I want you to tell us why?   The fact that someone owns a Nintendo system does not make them a fanboy.. neither does liking Mario games.   As I said 3 times now, but you are too ignorant to read, no one else in this thread has shown fanboy tendencies but yourself.

Most normal people understand that game systems all have pros and cons, and good games and bad games.  There will also always be first party games that you will only get with those respective systems.  You don't like Nintendo.. we get it.   That doesn't make Sony better.   You need to learn to debate with some fact, instead of spouting insults at people and just saying "no you are wrong" when people prove you are an idiot with cold hard facts.
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: freddykreuger666 on May 18, 2006, 03:03:23 pm
its because solid snake was the playstations signature character basically.
and ssb is nintendos "classic nintendo character game"
and they've used the popularity of solid snake and put him in their nintendo game. Even though he is an obvious playstation character
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: brophog on May 18, 2006, 03:08:18 pm
So because we're educated to know differently, we somehow worship the ground Nintendo walks on?

 :troll:
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: Luxury on May 18, 2006, 03:13:37 pm
its because solid snake was the playstations signature character basically.
and ssb is nintendos "classic nintendo character game"
and they've used the popularity of solid snake and put him in their nintendo game. Even though he is an obvious playstation character

We've been over this already!  We have covered this point you are trying to make.  And I'm sorry to inform you - you lost the first time, so do you really want to lose a second time?

I highly recommend you walk away from this thread right now.  I'd hate for you to get banned for this little fiasco before you need our help to actually BYOAC - for what you mentioned you need help with.
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: missioncontrol on May 18, 2006, 03:17:01 pm
a working adult playing a video game - pathetic
an adult playing a nintendo game - now thats pathetic

hey  :tool:

being a snotty nosed spoiled brat is pathetic

parents raising such a kid are pathetic

Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: PCtech on May 18, 2006, 03:17:37 pm
 :dizzy: :lame: :hissy:
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: Harry Potter on May 18, 2006, 03:18:44 pm
I'm getting vertigo from this shite :dizzy:

Myself I actually think the SNES is the coolest console ever made (And mebby the Megadrive as well) and I would never buy a PS2 or XBOX because those styles of games don't interest me much (Besides, I can get most of em for PC).

But there is no way in hell I'd berate someone for favouring one console over the other in such a childish and hissy-fit way. Get some more meds, go back to playing your Nintendo 66 and leave the game related talk to us grownups.

There's a good lad.
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: markrvp on May 18, 2006, 03:24:50 pm
The word, --cream-filled twinkie--, comes to mind in this thread.
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: Santoro on May 18, 2006, 03:29:04 pm
I am stupefied by this abortion of a thread.  Why are we feeding the troll?
Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: freddykreuger666 on May 18, 2006, 03:33:18 pm
grown-ups think they're so good
maybe its just cos they think their "wise"
u must be obsessed with nintendo if u go into all that trouble to prove me wrong

Title: Re: New Smash Bros Announced for Wii - Solid Snake, Kid Icarus playable
Post by: horseboy on May 18, 2006, 03:33:52 pm
Ok, so back to the original arguement then. How exactly is he a playstation character when he was on NES 7+ years before playstation came out? He is on gamecube and gba as well.

As for 13 games:
Metal Gear Solid
MGS 2
MGS 3
MGS: Portable Ops
MGS: Integral
MGS: VR Missions
MGS: Special Missions
MGS2: Substance
MGS: The Twin Snakes
MGS3: Subsistence
Metal Gear Ghost Babel
Metal Gear Acid
Metal Gear Acid 2

Also:
The Document of MGS 2
MGS: Digital Graphic Novel

Still to come:
MGS: 4

You see little Freddy, we big boys can back up what we say with concrete fact. Your fact comes straight from your ass. I guess that makes sense, though, because I know your head also resides there.