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Title: Is Burger King trying to tell us they're going out of business?
Post by: Zakk on February 07, 2006, 11:09:10 pm
I don't know what's going on, but I was flipping through the channels and happened upon a commercial where that freaky plastic headed 'king' was twirling some guy's underpants on his finger. 

...

I really can't fathom the marketing ideology behind this.  I would, and this is just me mind you, I would tend to keep "underwear", and "food you buy-prepared for you by punk kids" out of the same commercial.  Am I missing some crazy new hipster trend here?   :o
Title: Re: Is Burger King trying to tell us they're going out of business?
Post by: mr.Curmudgeon on February 07, 2006, 11:35:53 pm
You just haven't *lived* until you've tried a Whopper w/ Extra Undies!  MMmmm MMMmmm

The McTighty-Whitey at McD's is also good. Hold the skid marks.


mrC
Title: Re: Is Burger King trying to tell us they're going out of business?
Post by: Ted E Bare on February 08, 2006, 12:37:39 am
You just haven't *lived* until you've tried a Whopper w/ Extra Undies!  MMmmm MMMmmm

The McTighty-Whitey at McD's is also good. Hold the skid marks.


mrC
Is that what you did with them?  I don't even want them back if you stuck them on a whopper...unless it was your whopper.
Title: Re: Is Burger King trying to tell us they're going out of business?
Post by: quarterback on February 08, 2006, 02:29:17 am
Is that what you did with them?  I don't even want them back if you stuck them on a whopper...unless it was your whopper.

Oh my!    LOL!
Title: Re: Is Burger King trying to tell us they're going out of business?
Post by: fredster on February 08, 2006, 11:30:05 am
They have the creepiest ads sometimes.

Remember the one where the King was in Bed with the guy when he woke up?

That was really really creepy.
Title: Re: Is Burger King trying to tell us they're going out of business?
Post by: ChadTower on February 08, 2006, 11:35:40 am

Doesn't matter... BK signed their own death warrant when they went with the soggy lactose sticks they call french fries. 

Take a mass produced fast food item and drench it in lactose and you preclude most of the nonwhite people and many of the white people from being able to eat them without getting sick.

Title: Re: Is Burger King trying to tell us they're going out of business?
Post by: fredster on February 08, 2006, 11:37:59 am
Man, I like BK fries.  They have good food. They are pretty busy, their stock is good.

Nice clean resturant.  As good or better than McDonalds or Wendys.
Title: Re: Is Burger King trying to tell us they're going out of business?
Post by: ChadTower on February 08, 2006, 11:44:50 am

The coating on those "new" fries is like 80% raw lactose.  They go through me like Ex Lax.

Can't eat the fries and most people will go to McDonald's instead.  That means half of all black people, 75% of Middle Easterners, and 95% of Asians.  The screwed themselves HARD when they made that switch and then refused to switch back when their business plummeted.  To this day they won't admit that the fries are what caused their rapid decline.
Title: Re: Is Burger King trying to tell us they're going out of business?
Post by: USSEnterprise on February 08, 2006, 11:49:41 am
When did they start coating their fries? I remember about 10 years ago, they were still similar to McD's. Pretty much every fast food resturant near me has better fries than them (McD, Wendy, Checkers)
Title: Re: Is Burger King trying to tell us they're going out of business?
Post by: ChadTower on February 08, 2006, 12:01:19 pm

It was like 2000 or so I think... I used to eat there a lot in the late 90s when I was in college, left in 1998... then didn't eat there a couple of years, but when I went back in like 2001 the fries made me REALLY sick.
Title: Re: Is Burger King trying to tell us they're going out of business?
Post by: missioncontrol on February 08, 2006, 12:06:27 pm
I like the BK fries... it really cleans out the insides
Title: Re: Is Burger King trying to tell us they're going out of business?
Post by: ChadTower on February 08, 2006, 01:08:28 pm

Yeah, if you enjoy cramping all up like a woman in the process, it's great.
Title: Re: Is Burger King trying to tell us they're going out of business?
Post by: USSEnterprise on February 08, 2006, 01:19:37 pm
I like the BK fries... it really cleans out the insides
You're better off using ex lax, or draino
Title: Re: Is Burger King trying to tell us they're going out of business?
Post by: rdmustang on February 08, 2006, 01:30:45 pm
I stand corrected.
Title: Re: Is Burger King trying to tell us they're going out of business?
Post by: Clonedsheep on February 08, 2006, 01:40:32 pm
It's not racial Stereotyping. The majority of of blacks and Asians are Lactose Intolerant. This is a true fact.
Title: Re: Is Burger King trying to tell us they're going out of business?
Post by: ChadTower on February 08, 2006, 01:43:08 pm

It's not racial stereotyping, that is right.  It is simple biology.  Research it.  Proven medical fact and the figures are accurate.  Hell, do a little anecdotal research and ask yourself the last time you saw milk or cheese at a Chinese restaurant or why most Indian foods are based on nonlactose sources like coconut milks.
Title: Re: Is Burger King trying to tell us they're going out of business?
Post by: Stingray on February 08, 2006, 01:49:08 pm


Remember the one where the King was in Bed with the guy when he woke up?



That one makes me want to shoot my TV.

-S
Title: Re: Is Burger King trying to tell us they're going out of business?
Post by: DrewKaree on February 08, 2006, 11:38:03 pm


Remember the one where the King was in Bed with the guy when he woke up?



That one makes me want to shoot my TV.

-S

I have steel wool to clean the ol' iris' after watching that piece of crap.

Knowing what they do for Chad, I suddenly feel a need to support them for the effects they cause him.  Stingray, when we go visit him, I say we bring him fries from BK and mix 'em in with someone else's fries so he doesn't catch on right away ;D
Title: Re: Is Burger King trying to tell us they're going out of business?
Post by: USSEnterprise on February 08, 2006, 11:47:43 pm
why most Indian foods are based on nonlactose sources like coconut milks.

There were a lot of milk and/or cheese based things on the menu of the last Indian resturant I was at.
Title: Re: Is Burger King trying to tell us they're going out of business?
Post by: danny_galaga on February 09, 2006, 03:33:04 am
why most Indian foods are based on nonlactose sources like coconut milks.

There were a lot of milk and/or cheese based things on the menu of the last Indian resturant I was at.

i know what chad is saying, but the indian example isnt a good one. they use milk. and tea (chai) in india is mostly milk...
Title: Re: Is Burger King trying to tell us they're going out of business?
Post by: ChadTower on February 09, 2006, 09:19:12 am
i know what chad is saying, but the indian example isnt a good one. they use milk. and tea (chai) in india is mostly milk...

Some, but not nearly as much as other places that are European or of European descent.  Most of it is not lactose based.  Hell, milk comes from a cow, which would raise some issues in India, yes?

Lactose tolerance is NOT the default human condition.  It is a mutation that developed in several harsh climates where milk from an animal was the primary source of sustenance for long periods.  The largest source of this mutation was what is now Norway, Sweden, and Finland and it was brought down by the Vikings who spread it through all of the European coast and it migrated inland when the British spread all over the world.  This is why lactose tolerance is primarily a caucasian condition with far lesser percentages in any other race after the age of about 2.

Most of the world is Lactose Intolerant to one degree or another.
Title: Re: Is Burger King trying to tell us they're going out of business?
Post by: danny_galaga on February 10, 2006, 08:21:41 pm
i know what chad is saying, but the indian example isnt a good one. they use milk. and tea (chai) in india is mostly milk...

Some, but not nearly as much as other places that are European or of European descent.  Most of it is not lactose based.  Hell, milk comes from a cow, which would raise some issues in India, yes?

Lactose tolerance is NOT the default human condition.  It is a mutation that developed in several harsh climates where milk from an animal was the primary source of sustenance for long periods.  The largest source of this mutation was what is now Norway, Sweden, and Finland and it was brought down by the Vikings who spread it through all of the European coast and it migrated inland when the British spread all over the world.  This is why lactose tolerance is primarily a caucasian condition with far lesser percentages in any other race after the age of about 2.

Most of the world is Lactose Intolerant to one degree or another.

Hindu's don't EAT cow, but they do drink the milk. they are not primarily VEGAN after all... Sikhs im not so sure about...
Title: Re: Is Burger King trying to tell us they're going out of business?
Post by: USSEnterprise on February 10, 2006, 11:02:10 pm
I know one of my aunts converted to Hinduism, and just doesn't eat mammal or bird meat, but has no problem w/ fish or milk
Title: Re: Is Burger King trying to tell us they're going out of business?
Post by: shmokes on February 11, 2006, 06:17:11 pm
Part of the reason Hindus revere cows is because they give so much to us, including milk. 

That said, those plastic King commercials are hillarious and they are clearly successful, considering they keep making new ones based on him.


THAT said, I think burger king is pretty much gross food and I almost never eat there.  Same goes for McDonalds and Wendy's, though.
Title: Re: Is Burger King trying to tell us they're going out of business?
Post by: USSEnterprise on February 11, 2006, 06:31:55 pm
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THAT said, I think burger king is pretty much gross food and I almost never eat there.  Same goes for McDonalds and Wendy's, though.

Blasphemy!
Title: Re: Is Burger King trying to tell us they're going out of business?
Post by: DrewKaree on February 11, 2006, 07:12:23 pm

That said, those plastic King commercials are hillarious


Something is seriously wrong with you.

Has your wife beaten you in the head recently?  Those commercials are short-bus funny.  That's it. 
Title: Re: Is Burger King trying to tell us they're going out of business?
Post by: whammoed on February 11, 2006, 09:44:40 pm
Part of the reason Hindus revere cows is because they give so much to us, including milk. 

If you can't eat them, what do they give besides milk?  Methane?
Title: Re: Is Burger King trying to tell us they're going out of business?
Post by: MYX on February 12, 2006, 04:13:16 pm
What ever happened to Herb? (That's Herb not erb)
When I was in high school, Herb was their gimmic. Someone stole a roll of Herb stickers from the veggie dept at the local grocery. Everyone was wearing herb stickers. Ghaw we were messed up.

Don't like BKs Fries. Sure I'll eat em if it is the only thing. They taste gritty.

McD's Fries are the best and always have been. Checkers comes a close second.
Title: Re: Is Burger King trying to tell us they're going out of business?
Post by: Zakk on February 12, 2006, 07:49:28 pm
Actually, I think Wendy's has the best fries, but only if they are piping hot, then they are nice and crisp.  Mcpigs second, BK third, then KFC and Harveys way in the back.
Title: Re: Is Burger King trying to tell us they're going out of business?
Post by: DrewKaree on February 12, 2006, 09:24:28 pm
True dat on Wendy's.  Unless they're hot, they suck. 

I don't like being a PITA at fast-food joints by ordering something all effed up, but at Wendy's, I ALWAYS order my fries and tell them I want them with no salt on them.  Pick up a packet of salt, salt 'em myself, and I'm good to go!
Title: Re: Is Burger King trying to tell us they're going out of business?
Post by: ChadTower on February 13, 2006, 08:58:38 am

When I eat fast food it's nearly always Chinese.  No lactose.  Boom.
Title: Re: Is Burger King trying to tell us they're going out of business?
Post by: Zakk on February 13, 2006, 11:07:54 am
Extra MSG.  Bang.
Title: Re: Is Burger King trying to tell us they're going out of business?
Post by: rdmustang on February 13, 2006, 11:37:57 am

It's not racial stereotyping, that is right.  It is simple biology.  Research it.  Proven medical fact and the figures are accurate.  Hell, do a little anecdotal research and ask yourself the last time you saw milk or cheese at a Chinese restaurant or why most Indian foods are based on nonlactose sources like coconut milks.

Not trying to change the conversation.. but..

My wife works in a predominantly black school (95% children are black, 4% are hispanic, 1% are asian/white according to school's monthly reports)..  The teachers are approximately 85% black (based on my wife's estimate).  Almost every child drinks milk with lunch every day with no suppliments for lactose intollerance.  She asked her grade level (2nd) as well as the kindergarden teachers and none of them are lactose intollerant and none of them were aware that studies show that 80% of blacks are lactose intollerant.

Of course this isn't an official study but just going on this data how accurate could the studies be that show that 80% of blacks are lactose intollerant.  Could it just be the area she's in?  She teaches in the lowest income school in Fort Worth, TX.  Could it just be the upper class blacks that are lactose intollerant or could the children and parents be lactose intollerant but just don't know it?  :D
Title: Re: Is Burger King trying to tell us they're going out of business?
Post by: ChadTower on February 13, 2006, 11:46:44 am

It has to do with the fact that children are not lactose intolerant... lactose tolerance is born into most species and then tapers off as the child matures into an adult.  The age at which it tapers can vary from person to person but generally if the child is born lactose intolerant then they cannot breastfeed and since that is the natural foodsource, those children would have been naturally selected for starvation until modern times.

BTW, no one said 80%.  I said 50%.  You're also only talking about one isolated area where there is likely a lot of historic racial mixing, skewing the racial dataset.

50% is worldwide, which if you went to Africa, where there is far less racial mixing, the stats go way up and that's how you get your worldwide average.

I have a close black friend from that area of Texas and just asked him.  He says that a lot of folks there actually are lactose intolerant but have no idea why they have problems.  He also says the school systems pretty much gives the milk to the kids with no alternatives other than being hungry.  This would really make a difference in a poor area where that is probably the only real meal a kid gets all day.
Title: Re: Is Burger King trying to tell us they're going out of business?
Post by: shmokes on February 13, 2006, 02:18:14 pm
Arby's probably has the best fries as far as fast food fries go, whether you're talking about their curly fries or their homestyle fries.
Title: Re: Is Burger King trying to tell us they're going out of business?
Post by: Stingray on February 13, 2006, 03:19:10 pm
Arby's probably has the best fries as far as fast food fries go, whether you're talking about their curly fries or their homestyle fries.


I don't like the seasoning that they use on their curly fries, but those homestyle fries are fantastic. I also like Wendy's but as stated, only if they're fresh out of the fryer.

-S
Title: Re: Is Burger King trying to tell us they're going out of business?
Post by: ChadTower on February 13, 2006, 06:04:14 pm

The seasoning on their fries is probably full of lactose too... that's how seasoning is made to adhere to the fries.  It's done with chips and other stuff.  Lactose is a sugar, used to sweeten the coating, and it also makes the coating stick.  Most cooked foods with a "flavor coating" like that are full of lactose.
Title: Re: Is Burger King trying to tell us they're going out of business?
Post by: DrewKaree on February 13, 2006, 06:46:54 pm
and "BOOM!" goes the dynamite!
Title: Re: Is Burger King trying to tell us they're going out of business?
Post by: jbox on February 13, 2006, 10:40:25 pm
Awwww, you're gonna hurt their feelings if you keep this up...  ;D
Title: Re: Is Burger King trying to tell us they're going out of business?
Post by: ChadTower on February 14, 2006, 11:16:03 am

Just tell them to make regular fries and they don't have a problem.

Chicken fingers have ridiculous amounts of lactose too. 
Title: Re: Is Burger King trying to tell us they're going out of business?
Post by: DrewKaree on February 14, 2006, 04:17:31 pm

Chicken fingers have ridiculous amounts of lactose too. 


What about chicken toes?  Same thing?
Title: Re: Is Burger King trying to tell us they're going out of business?
Post by: rdmustang on February 14, 2006, 04:27:11 pm

It has to do with the fact that children are not lactose intolerant... lactose tolerance is born into most species and then tapers off as the child matures into an adult.  The age at which it tapers can vary from person to person but generally if the child is born lactose intolerant then they cannot breastfeed and since that is the natural foodsource, those children would have been naturally selected for starvation until modern times.

BTW, no one said 80%.  I said 50%.  You're also only talking about one isolated area where there is likely a lot of historic racial mixing, skewing the racial dataset.

50% is worldwide, which if you went to Africa, where there is far less racial mixing, the stats go way up and that's how you get your worldwide average.

I have a close black friend from that area of Texas and just asked him.  He says that a lot of folks there actually are lactose intolerant but have no idea why they have problems.  He also says the school systems pretty much gives the milk to the kids with no alternatives other than being hungry.  This would really make a difference in a poor area where that is probably the only real meal a kid gets all day.

Thanks for the lesson.  The 80% I quoted was from a study done that I found through google but I didn't have the time to read if it was one area, in the US, outside the US or whatever.. I'm not saying it was accurate for this discussion but it was just the first figure I found.
Title: Re: Is Burger King trying to tell us they're going out of business?
Post by: ChadTower on February 14, 2006, 04:31:19 pm

This (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0816031274/sr=8-3/qid=1139952663/ref=pd_bbs_3/104-4882886-2816726?%5Fencoding=UTF8) is where I get the majority of my knowledge on the subject.  It is considered the top book on the subject, very well written and easy to understand, even when they get into fairly complex topics.
Title: Re: Is Burger King trying to tell us they're going out of business?
Post by: whammoed on February 14, 2006, 06:37:19 pm
Ingredient list from BK website, I don't see lactose listed:
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FRENCH FRIES (FRIED)
 
Potatoes, Partially Hydrogenated Soybean Oil, Modified Potato Starch, Rice Flour, Potato Dextrin, Salt, Leavening (Disodium Dihydrogen Pyrophosphate, Sodium Bicarbonate), Dextrose, Xanthan Gum, Sodium Acid Pyrophosphate added to preserve natural color.
 

Title: Re: Is Burger King trying to tell us they're going out of business?
Post by: ChadTower on February 15, 2006, 01:30:29 pm

It also doesn't list a coating either which is clearly on there.
Title: Re: Is Burger King trying to tell us they're going out of business?
Post by: whammoed on February 15, 2006, 01:44:35 pm

It also doesn't list a coating either which is clearly on there.
I thought thats what all that other crap was besides potato, oil, salt.
BTW, what is wrong with just potato, oil, salt.  Sounds like a good fry to me.

Can't they get into big trouble for not properly listing the ingredients?
Title: Re: Is Burger King trying to tell us they're going out of business?
Post by: ChadTower on February 15, 2006, 01:50:27 pm

What makes you think their fries even have potatoes in them?  Nowhere on the menu does it say "potatoes".  I mean seriously, what is "modifed potato starch"?  What is "potato dextrin"?

Title: Re: Is Burger King trying to tell us they're going out of business?
Post by: whammoed on February 15, 2006, 03:10:22 pm

What makes you think their fries even have potatoes in them?  Nowhere on the menu does it say "potatoes".  I mean seriously, what is "modifed potato starch"?  What is "potato dextrin"?


Yeah, I don't know...but the first ingredient listed is potatoes
Title: Re: Is Burger King trying to tell us they're going out of business?
Post by: DrewKaree on February 15, 2006, 03:20:42 pm
Yeah, I don't know...but the first ingredient listed is potatoes

WILL YOU STOP MAKING SENSE, DAMMIT?  ;)
Title: Re: Is Burger King trying to tell us they're going out of business?
Post by: RetroACTIVE on February 15, 2006, 07:13:56 pm
There are so many different subjects in this thread that have spawned from french fries... its quite amazing.........LMAO! :laugh:

Title: Re: Is Burger King trying to tell us they're going out of business?
Post by: hypernova on February 15, 2006, 08:25:01 pm
1 arbys (both)
2 rally's/checkers

i thought bk did a good thing switching that recipe for their fries.  I absolutely hated their previous fries.  Worst in the world.  Now that honor goes to Long John Silver's.  Oh my god.  Does LJS have some fries for ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---.  They'd've (I love double contractions.  Even if they are made-up.) been the bottom of the list if they tasted that bad back then (can't remember.)  But anyway, BK's fries moved WAY up on the list after they redid the recipe.  Those are the top two up there, though.  Right there. Deeeeeelicious.

How can anyone NOT like Wendy's?  Top of the line food, fast food-wise.  Though I always hit the value menu.  (Thank GOD they moved the Jr Bacon back to 99 cents.)
Title: Re: Is Burger King trying to tell us they're going out of business?
Post by: Zakk on February 15, 2006, 09:12:14 pm
Jr bacon is on the value menu?  Outstanding!  Yum yum yum.
Title: Re: Is Burger King trying to tell us they're going out of business?
Post by: DrewKaree on February 15, 2006, 10:08:26 pm
On occasion I like LJS fries.  I think they use the same fryer for everything, so it goes well with their meals, but you're right, they definitely aren't good (unless you're in the mood for eating there and don't mind 'em).