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Main => Everything Else => Topic started by: USSEnterprise on January 08, 2006, 12:57:53 am
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I was just reading about a Ford concept car. Its called the Model U. Not only is it a hydrogen powered car, which scares the living hell outta me, but it is made...naturally. Older cars rust. This one dissolves. The outer body panels are made out of a "natural fiber composite" covering an aluminum frame. Additionally, some of the parts are made out of "soy fibers". So when you get into an accident, not only is it going to produce one hell of a fireball, but it will also taste good with soy sauce.
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Just think, if you run into a cow or deer with 'em (yes, people HAVE run into cows in WI ::) ), the soy fibers will take on the characteristics of the meat being
burned cooked. It'll be the best smelling auto accident EVAH!
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It will really help the hydrogen car cause when people stop saying things like "it will cause one hell of a fireball".
Do you really think it would be designed in a way that that could happen any worse than with a gasoline car?
BTW, rust IS natural and it IS the car dissolving.
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I'm not sure. It was just my guess that a tank of compressed hydrogen would make one ---fudgesicle--- of a bigger KABOOM than a gasoline tank
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It will probably be liquid. IIRC, liquid hydrogen does not go boom. Only gaseous hydrogen. I could be wrong on that but don't think I am.
Combustible elements are only combustible in certain states and in certain mixtures.
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Combustible elements are only combustible in certain states and in certain mixtures.
Like in Texas, with lots of beer.
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Yeah, the problem is right now it's pretty darn hard to create and store liquid hydrogen. I'm excited to see it though, in my opinion it's a step in the right direction.
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IIRC, they are working towards storing H2 in a metal matrix, as a metal hydride.
Much safer, higher energy density, but requires energy to remove H2 from the matrix. Needs a hefty battery to preheat the hydride to release the starting fuel.
Plus, it doesn't go boom.
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Actually, I remember seeing something like that. Some sort of material that produces pure H2 when heated?
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All the details can be viewed here: http://www.conceptcar.co.uk/concept-cars/concept-car-46.php
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Is that image CG?
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I'm not sure. It was just my guess that a tank of compressed hydrogen would make one ---auto-censored--- of a bigger KABOOM than a gasoline tank
Seems like I remember hearing once that a gallon of gasoline packs the same explosive punch as something like two sticks of dynamite. Even assuming that the hydrogen prouces a bigger explosion than the gasoline, what difference would that make? You'd be just as dead either way.
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Maybe you die either way, but a bigger explosion has the potential to take more people with it.
Same amount of material making a bigger explosion also possibly means a more likely explosion by the nature of physics.
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Maybe you die either way, but a bigger explosion has the potential to take more people with it.
If I'm dead, why would I care about other people? I mean I barely care about other people as it is.
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The manufacturer would, obviously, since more deaths = more lawsuits and no one likes to pay those damn attorneys.
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F'em. They stabbed a baby.
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That's it! Someone design a car that runs on babies.
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Yeah, the problem is right now it's pretty darn hard to create and store liquid hydrogen. I'm excited to see it though, in my opinion it's a step in the right direction.
where will the hydrogen come from? it takes a LOT of energy to make it. or convert it from petroleum. either way, lotsa a fossils will need to be used...
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Hydrogen is the most abundant element on Earth. It's in the air and in the water.
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Hydrogen is the most abundant element on Earth. It's in the air and in the water.
sigh...
how will you EXTRICATE the hydrogen from the oxygen without using more energy than you gain? ok, PLANTS do it by photo-synthesis but i don't think you are suggesting that is how we will process our hydrogen...
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That's the question, yes? And they're going to answer it. They wouldn't be building prototypes if the answer wasn't either already here or coming in the near future.
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That's the question, yes? And they're going to answer it. They wouldn't be building prototypes if the answer wasn't either already here or coming in the near future.
Sure THEY would. You never know what THEY might be up to. Where's my tin foil hat?
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Under your pile of hydrogen extraction theories.
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No good. Those were all stolen by gov't agents in a black helicopter.
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That now curiously run on hydrogen.
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I need a tin foil house.
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Just line your walls with it.
Or get a bigass TV dinner and live in that.
Holy crap, do they even make TV dinners anymore?
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They do, but they sadly no longer come covered in high grade, US Gov't inspected, mind control blocking foil.
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Damn, I used to dig those.
That and Jiffy Pop. Man, now that I think about it, I can't even make Jiffy Pop. It would score the snot out of my ceramic stovetop.
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Jiffy Pop, on the other hand, is still available. The wife and I took some along on a camping trip not long ago. Somehow it's still just as fun to pop as it was when I was 8. :)
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See if they make something like that cell phone jammer. Only in your case, you need one that's non-specific, and will cover your house, perhaps block, city, or state.
Better yet, I'll build you one and set it up for you. Drop me eleventy brazilian dollars in the mail and I'll do all the work for you. You should feel results in 3-6 weeks.
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I'm not sure. It was just my guess that a tank of compressed hydrogen would make one ---auto-censored--- of a bigger KABOOM than a gasoline tank
There's a scientific american with alan alda episode about this.
No, hydrogen is better than gas if something wrong happens. If you put a puncture in gas vs hydrogen what is going to happen? Gas will leak onto the ground, so if it catches on fire it engulfs the entire car. Hydrogen will convert to gas (it is liquid in the car), and stream out. Since it is lighter than air it goes up. If it catches on fire you will see something like setting hairspray on fire. It won't spread around the car.
If you can find that episode watch it. Pretty cool stuff coming in the future.
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Just think, if you run into a cow or deer with 'em (yes, people HAVE run into cows in WI ::) )
Mus thave been drunk because cows are slow and don't move :) Deer pop out of no where!
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When it's dark and you're not paying attention and the cow was already in the road, whap.
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how will you EXTRICATE the hydrogen from the oxygen without using more energy than you gain? ok, PLANTS do it by photo-synthesis but I don't think you are suggesting that is how we will process our hydrogen...
But it takes less external energy (oil) to do this than all the cars using oil.
Iceland collects hydrogen form their geothermals too.
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When it's dark and you're not paying attention and the cow was already in the road, whap.
Ok, if it was dark and snowing I could see that, well, not really since farmers will have put their cattle away.
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No way. That cow is a loner, Dotty. A rebel.
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When it's dark and you're not paying attention and the cow was already in the road, whap.
Bingo.
A buddy of mine had an ex-girlfriend run into one. She was drunk and her headlights needed replacing, she thought it was a friggen deer and figured it'd move.
Way I see it, she deserved everything that happened to her. It's just too bad the cow had to suffer the result of her stupidity. Better a cow than another human being - the ass hattess.
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When it's dark and you're not paying attention and the cow was already in the road, whap.
Ok, if it was dark and snowing I could see that, well, not really since farmers will have put their cattle away.
Dude had a hole in his fence and had 5 get out. He found all but 2, and then he only had to look for 1
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Kinda close by you now. Take 110 west to Fremont. Close to Poygan Lake
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I need a tin foil house.
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(http://www.blacktable.com/images/0401pics/foil/fridge.jpg)
(link (http://www.blacktable.com/elder040114.htm))
mrC
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But his fridge has no beer.
That man is insane, having a fridge with no beer.
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Better yet, I'll build you one and set it up for you. Drop me eleventy brazilian dollars in the mail ...
Look at all that pink and purple! Our money sure is gay.
(http://www.banknotes.com/BR200.JPG)
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Better yet, I'll build you one and set it up for you. Drop me eleventy brazilian dollars in the mail ...
Look at all that pink and purple! Our money sure is gay.
(http://www.banknotes.com/BR200.JPG)
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That's only 500. I need eleventy brazilain minus that bill, whatever that adds up to. Or subtracts down to.
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Somebody else can do the math, I'm only here for the bad jokes.
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I was too busy trying to figure out why half the people on those bills are hanging from the ceiling.
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I was too busy trying to figure out why half the people on those bills are hanging from the ceiling.
Brazil has transvestite bathrooms. Maybe that has something to do with it.
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But his fridge has no beer.
That man is insane, having a fridge with no beer.
Is that even possible?
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But his fridge has no beer.
That man is insane, having a fridge with no beer.
Is that even possible?
I have no intention of finding out.
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Is that even possible?
Which, being insane, or having no beer in the fridge?
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Is that even possible?
Which, being insane, or having no beer in the fridge?
Wouldn't the latter lead to the former?
(http://stingraysmadness.com/EE/images/smiles/homer.gif)No beer and no TV make Homer something something...
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But his fridge has no beer.
That man is insane, having a fridge with no beer.
Is that even possible?
I think for those darn whippersnappers, it's the ONLY possibility. Unless they know a guy. Like Dave. But Dave's not here, man. And if he was, I bet it's that fruit, Dave Robertson ;)
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Go Crazy?
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how will you EXTRICATE the hydrogen from the oxygen without using more energy than you gain? ok, PLANTS do it by photo-synthesis but I don't think you are suggesting that is how we will process our hydrogen...
But it takes less external energy (oil) to do this than all the cars using oil.
I'm pretty sure it does. that was my point...
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Go Crazy?
Don't mind if I do!
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But his fridge has no beer.
That man is insane, having a fridge with no beer.
Is that even possible?
I think for those darn whippersnappers, it's the ONLY possibility. Unless they know a guy. Like Dave. But Dave's not here, man. And if he was, I bet it's that fruit, Dave Robertson ;)
I am too here... and I like fruit.
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I want a car that runs on EA Sports games for the Genesis. I have to many of those I could fuel my whole town for a month.
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I prefer a vehicle that doesn't hurt Mother Earth. It's a go-cart, powered by my own sense of self-satisfaction.
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It runs on smugness.
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I prefer a vehicle that doesn't hurt Mother Earth.
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I prefer a vehicle that doesn't hurt Mother Earth. It's a go-cart, powered by my own sense of self-satisfaction.
I want a car that runs on Ed Bagley, Jr.
Touche
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They wouldn't be building prototypes if the answer wasn't either already here or coming in the near future.
just thought about that again. the reason is called 'green-washing'
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???
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remember BP solar? was a great idea. but in the end the limited amount of research they did was purely just to make them look more environmentally responsible. once that was achieved they didn't bother much any more. job done. lots of companies do it. i myself think hybrid cars fit into this category and also hydrogen cars as they stand. if a car company was REALLY serious they would put a lot more into hydrogen production technology, rather than cars...
http://www.jonentine.com/articles/social_responsibility_movement.htm