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Title: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: DrewKaree on November 10, 2005, 12:10:59 am
Helluva way to go!

http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/11/09/npierce09.xml (http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/11/09/npierce09.xml)
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: missioncontrol on November 10, 2005, 12:12:51 am
it should happen more often
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: shmokes on November 10, 2005, 12:14:33 am
That's pretty crass.

Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: missioncontrol on November 10, 2005, 04:40:45 am
you'd see a lot less people with silly little pieces of metal hanging from all over their face.
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: Bones on November 10, 2005, 05:09:42 am
Given the appearance of many people with piercings, I am more surprised there isn't reports of the metal piercings succumbing to some type of corrosion.


Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: missioncontrol on November 10, 2005, 05:37:38 am
Given the appearance of many people with piercings, I am more surprised there isn't reports of the metal piercings succumbing to some type of corrosion.


exactly, some of them you almost feel like you need a tetanus shot just from walking past them.
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: Stingray on November 10, 2005, 09:28:23 am
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The piercer, Emma Thompson (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000668/), denied breaking hygiene rules.

Funny, she's one of my wife's favorite actresses. Personally, my opinion is that she doesn't even have enough talent to properly pierce a lip.

-S
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: versapak on November 10, 2005, 09:40:13 am
Most jewelery for body piercings is surgical stainless steel, so corrosion is not much of an issue.


The only problem I experienced with my piercings is that my son ripped one of my eyebrow piercings when he was 2. That one less than tickled for a bit.


Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: ChadTower on November 10, 2005, 10:16:14 am

Piercings are t3h gay.
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: versapak on November 10, 2005, 11:09:22 am

Piercings are t3h gay.


Not nearly as gay as the use of t3h. :P


Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: Stingray on November 10, 2005, 11:11:29 am

Piercings are t3h gay.


Not nearly as gay as the use of t3h. :P




I think that was used to add t3h extra gay emphasis. I could be wrong though, Chad is pretty gay after all. ;) ;)

-S (nttawwt)
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: versapak on November 10, 2005, 11:13:21 am

Piercings are t3h gay.


Not nearly as gay as the use of t3h. :P




I think that was used to add t3h extra gay emphasis. I could be wrong though, Chad is pretty gay after all. ;) ;)

-S (nttawwt)


I am sure that IS why it was used, but to emphasize in such a way is a true sign of the pot calling the kettle...  :)




Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: missioncontrol on November 10, 2005, 11:15:10 am
both the use of t3h and peircings are really gay but I'd trust someone using t3h over sompen who looks like they got a zipper stuck on their face.
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: ChadTower on November 10, 2005, 11:19:08 am

Yes, use of t3h is meant to add emphasis to being more gay than the usual level of gaiety.

Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: Stingray on November 10, 2005, 11:23:07 am
I'd post that Erik Estrada picture at this point, but I really don't want to have to look at it again.

-S
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: missioncontrol on November 10, 2005, 11:42:27 am

Yes, use of t3h is meant to add emphasis to being more gay than the usual level of gaiety.



and no one knows gaiety quit like Chad...... NTTSWWT  ;)
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: ChadTower on November 10, 2005, 12:13:05 pm

Gaiety ith thuper.
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: CCM on November 10, 2005, 01:22:26 pm
you'd see a lot less people with silly little pieces of metal hanging from all over their face.


Riiighhht, no one should have piercings or tattoos or wear any color clothing other than gray and everyone should speak in monotone and we should all drive the same kind of car and eat the same foods... 
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: Stingray on November 10, 2005, 01:26:23 pm
you'd see a lot less people with silly little pieces of metal hanging from all over their face.


Riiighhht, no one should have piercings or tattoos or wear any color clothing other than gray and everyone should speak in monotone and we should all drive the same kind of car and eat the same foods... 

Defensive much? ;)

-S
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: missioncontrol on November 10, 2005, 01:29:32 pm
you'd see a lot less people with silly little pieces of metal hanging from all over their face.


Riiighhht, no one should have piercings or tattoos or wear any color clothing other than gray and everyone should speak in monotone and we should all drive the same kind of car and eat the same foods...
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: CCM on November 10, 2005, 01:30:42 pm
you'd see a lot less people with silly little pieces of metal hanging from all over their face.


Riiighhht, no one should have piercings or tattoos or wear any color clothing other than gray and everyone should speak in monotone and we should all drive the same kind of car and eat the same foods... 

Defensive much? ;)

-S


I actually don't have any piercings, but I do have a few tattoos.  It's just the attitude that 'if I don't have any and don't like them, then no one should have any' that bugs me a bit. 
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: SOAPboy on November 10, 2005, 01:33:04 pm
you'd see a lot less people with silly little pieces of metal hanging from all over their face.


Riiighhht, no one should have piercings or tattoos or wear any color clothing other than gray and everyone should speak in monotone and we should all drive the same kind of car and eat the same foods...
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: missioncontrol on November 10, 2005, 01:34:27 pm

I actually don't have any piercings, but I do have a few tattoos. It's just the attitude that 'if I don't have any and don't like them, then no one should have any' that bugs me a bit.

for the record I have quite a bit of ink, but they can all easily be covered up if need be there is a time and place for everything....
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: missioncontrol on November 10, 2005, 01:38:01 pm
You're such a --missioncontrol--..

Seriously.. Dont like em? Dont get em..



great comeback. you got me there you have won. I am amazed at your intelect...


they say when you resort to name calling you allready lost........


Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: Stingray on November 10, 2005, 01:41:19 pm
But the plus side is that I just learned that we can say --missioncontrol--.

You're a --missioncontrol--, I'm a --missioncontrol--, lotsa folks ya know are --missioncontrols--, wouldn't ya like to be a --missioncontrol-- too?

So how long before we get a new autocensor word?

-S
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: missioncontrol on November 10, 2005, 01:44:07 pm
But the plus side is that I just learned that we can say --missioncontrol--.

You're a --missioncontrol--, I'm a --missioncontrol--, lotsa folks ya know are --missioncontrols--, wouldn't ya like to be a --missioncontrol-- too?

So how long before we get a new autocensor word?

-S

please let it be --missioncontrol-- in honor of my great defeat
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: Stingray on November 10, 2005, 01:51:26 pm
Better to be labled a --missioncontrol-- than to die from a lipring infection.

-S

ps: --missioncontrol--
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: missioncontrol on November 10, 2005, 01:54:11 pm
Well I've been called alot worst from a lot better............

 8)
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: ChadTower on November 10, 2005, 01:55:37 pm

No one said people should not get them.

We said they can be deadly.

We said they are gay.

Anyone can get them, I do not disapprove of that.  I will, however, continue to call them gay. 

It is their right to pierce.  It is my right to call them t3h gay.
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: missioncontrol on November 10, 2005, 01:58:19 pm
calm down Chad there's plenty of names to go around.

 ;)
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: ChadTower on November 10, 2005, 01:58:55 pm

Do not challenge my right to call things t3h gay.
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: Stingray on November 10, 2005, 02:01:02 pm
I think you're both --missioncontrols--! :D

--missioncontrol--, --missioncontrol--, --missioncontrol--, --missioncontrol--! Woo!

**Stingray passes out from the euphoria**

-S
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: missioncontrol on November 10, 2005, 02:04:37 pm
quick while he's out let's tea bag him
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: Stingray on November 10, 2005, 02:09:18 pm
I'M AWAKE I'M AWAKE!

-S
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: CCM on November 10, 2005, 02:13:09 pm

No one said people should not get them.

We said they can be deadly.

We said they are gay.

Anyone can get them, I do not disapprove of that.  I will, however, continue to call them gay. 

It is their right to pierce.  It is my right to call them t3h gay.

right, no one said people should not get them , just that they should die if they do..

Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: missioncontrol on November 10, 2005, 02:59:48 pm
but they still look silly, the funniest are those who go out and get their tongue pierced because when they talk then you can not understand what they are saying.

and those with a stud below their lip it looks like a big zit.
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: SOAPboy on November 10, 2005, 03:50:17 pm
You're such a --missioncontrol--..

Seriously.. Dont like em? Dont get em..



great comeback. you got me there you have won. I am amazed at your intelect...


they say when you resort to name calling you allready lost........




You seem to think that people with peircings are lower than you, in fact, they arnt..
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: Shape D. on November 10, 2005, 03:55:02 pm
I think he was inferring that people who call people --stingrays-- are lower than him.

--stingray--
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: missioncontrol on November 10, 2005, 03:58:24 pm

You seem to think that people with peircings are lower than you, in fact, they arnt..
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: Stingray on November 10, 2005, 04:19:42 pm
I think he was inferring that people who call people --stingrays-- are lower than him.

--stingray--

This just cracked me right the heck up. :D

-S
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: SOAPboy on November 10, 2005, 04:56:25 pm

You seem to think that people with peircings are lower than you, in fact, they arnt..
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: More Cowbell on November 10, 2005, 05:05:36 pm
There's only one word that describes this whole thread.
"Eurgh"
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: Bones on November 10, 2005, 05:35:29 pm
Clit rings are extremely cool though....
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: shmokes on November 10, 2005, 05:42:35 pm

for the record I have quite a bit of ink, but they can all easily be covered up if need be there is a time and place for everything....


How goofy.  I can never understand people like you.  Why do you give a damn what other people do when it doesn't have any negative affect on you at all.  You're like (or are) one of those people who want to outlaw homosexuality because it's unnatural.  And it's so important that everybody draws the line of acceptable body modification exactly where you do, i.e. at tatoos, that you invent silly rationalizations such as the one quoted above to justify your hypocrisy.  In actuality your justification applies exactly the same to piercings as to tatoos.  Tatoos on the hands or face or neck cannot be covered up any easier than a piercing.  Just as you can have a prince albert or have your nipples pierced without anyone knowing about it.

If anything, tatoos are certainly the more extreme between the two.  There is a great deal more pain involved, and if Soapboy ever decides he doesn't like his piercing he'll just take it out and it will close up, leaving a nearly imperceptible scar.  On the other hand, when you realize that the skulls and naked chicks you thought were so cool in your early twenties are actually kinda dorky, your options are much more limited.

My point isn't that you shouldn't get tatoos, it's just that for once Soapboy is kinda right.  People who think like you about things like this suck.
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: saint on November 10, 2005, 06:22:36 pm
Roughly 4 hours.

But the plus side is that I just learned that we can say --missioncontrol--.

You're a --missioncontrol--, I'm a --missioncontrol--, lotsa folks ya know are --missioncontrols--, wouldn't ya like to be a --missioncontrol-- too?

So how long before we get a new autocensor word?

-S
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: saint on November 10, 2005, 06:29:32 pm
Oh yeah...

Rules!
.Rules!!
..Rules!!!
...Rules!!!!
....Rules!!!!!
...Rules!!!!
..Rules!!!
.Rules!!
Rules!
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Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: Bones on November 10, 2005, 07:14:05 pm
I think shmokes pretty wife might have knocked him back last night because his genital piercing became infected.

It's not a fact, just my theory.....
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: duffjr on November 10, 2005, 07:31:36 pm
you can see nipple rings kind of.
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: DrewKaree on November 10, 2005, 08:30:54 pm
I'd post that Erik Estrada picture at this point, but I really don't want to have to look at it again.

-S

Yet you'd rather subject yourself to THIS?
quick while he's out let's tea bag him

mEbbe you're t3H gAy t00! ;) ;)
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: missioncontrol on November 10, 2005, 11:24:39 pm
for the record I have quite a bit of ink, but they can all easily be covered up if need be there is a time and place for everything....

How goofy. I can never understand people like you.

Wow, so now you try to analyse me and goup me into a classification that you can justify in your mind. My comment was based on CCM comment that for some reason since I think face peircings are silly he thinks that I think everyone should dress talk and act the same as in his comment here:

Riiighhht, no one should have piercings or tattoos or wear any color clothing other than gray and everyone should speak in monotone and we should all drive the same kind of car and eat the same foods... 


I never drew a line on where body modifications should be made at I gave my opinion, last I checked my opinions aren't law, they are just my thoughts. Just as you have your own opinion on the subjec.t big deal, that is another thing that makes us individuals our different thought processes, but if you want to think getting a peircing just like the other guy makes you an individual, go ahead knock yourself out I can think what I want to about how silly it looks.........
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: Bones on November 11, 2005, 02:59:50 am
I personally dig tats. I have tats.

I don't mind piercings, but I hate them on faces. I also hate tats on faces (and hands for that matter).

When you put body modification on your face of any kind you are sending a message. I am not saying it is a negative one, but every person you make eye contact with is going to be thinking to himself- "Well this dude is right in my face with that crap, what is his deal?"

Tattoos on hands are the same. You get introduced to somebody and go to shake their hand and the first thing you see is a tat. It is impossible not to process this information. The first instinct is to be weary. It is this instinct that keeps humans alive.

Like it or not, nobody can deny this type of body modification is going to send a message.  Turn up at a job interview with a face full of metal and see how far you get.

If you have tats or piercings on your face you know it is going to get a reaction. The real question that needs to be asked is if it is a positive one.

Are you just baiting us shmokes or do you not possess this intelligent instinctive sense?






Now that's how you bait your hook.
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: Magnet_Eye on November 11, 2005, 07:32:43 am
wow. some of you people are really friggin ignorant.

Piercings and tattoos have been around for thousands of years, at least.

So, some of you think it is "unnatural" and shouldn't be a part of life?

How about the clothes you wear? you weren't born with them on, you added them to your body. That is unnatural! How about the cars you drive, the bikes you ride, the food you eat and/or drink, all pretty unnatural. Watching tv, or using computer...not natural at all.

Get naked, live in the woods and hunt for food with a stick. that's natural. morons.

 :(

Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: Ed_McCarron on November 11, 2005, 08:07:31 am
I get the feeling "unnatural" is not what people were going for here.

How about "In the minority".

As a minority, there will be persecution.  Deal with it, or get a loudmouth, vocal, advocate.  Thats what the other minoritys seem to do.

Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: missioncontrol on November 11, 2005, 08:35:01 am
wow. some of you people are really friggin ignorant.

Piercings and tattoos have been around for thousands of years, at least.

So, some of you think it is "unnatural" and shouldn't be a part of life?

How about the clothes you wear? you weren't born with them on, you added them to your body. That is unnatural! How about the cars you drive, the bikes you ride, the food you eat and/or drink, all pretty unnatural. Watching tv, or using computer...not natural at all.

Get naked, live in the woods and hunt for food with a stick. that's natural. morons.

 :(



It's funny the things people say to justify it to themselves and to others why they pierce
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: versapak on November 11, 2005, 08:42:24 am
I'm pierced, because I like it. <==PERIOD


Not looking to be unique. Not looking for attention. Not looking to symbolize anything.


I just plain like piercings.




For those being defensive about the subject... Why bother? Opinions (especially in the BYOAC EE Forums) are like poopchutes. Everyone has one, and they all stink. Not worth risking any extra carpal tunnel issues bickering with people, that are quite often in a totally different reagion of the world, with an entirely different culture in the first place. The only person that HAS to be happy with you is you.





Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: Stingray on November 11, 2005, 09:11:27 am
Sorry Saint. I guess that maks me the real missioncontrol. I promise to do my best to contain myself in the future. :-[

-S

Oh yeah...

Rules!
.Rules!!
..Rules!!!
...Rules!!!!
....Rules!!!!!
...Rules!!!!
..Rules!!!
.Rules!!
Rules!
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Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: Bones on November 22, 2005, 05:53:16 pm
Hi,

I am here for the job interview.

(http://www.karlsonandmckenzie.com/data/ThisWeek/853_bmegl160715.jpg)
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: TOK on November 22, 2005, 07:21:11 pm
Grab your harpoon, the Pequod leaves in 15 minutes!
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: DrewKaree on November 22, 2005, 11:05:58 pm
....and this year, voted "Most likely to be afraid of a magnet" we have.....
(http://www.karlsonandmckenzie.com/data/ThisWeek/853_bmegl160715.jpg)
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: missioncontrol on November 23, 2005, 12:00:19 am
wow the guy caught a hockey puck in his ear
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: DrewKaree on November 23, 2005, 12:44:39 am
....and a malfunctioning nail gun to the face!

I don't think the Wagner Power Roller did that other stuff though ;D
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: Zakk on November 23, 2005, 01:04:32 am
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: Bones on November 23, 2005, 01:19:42 am
I actually have great appreciation for the traditional facial tattoo's displayed amongst Mari's and Islanders, but nothing looks more silly than a white man sporting the fake try-hard stuff.
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: mahuti on November 23, 2005, 02:26:04 am
2 things...

1. Dude... NICE piercings...

2. so it's come to this... reading / posting in EE.

3. (bonus) being a proper design nerd... my tattoo features typography pretty heavily...

and no, it's not whitepower in gothic letters.
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: missioncontrol on November 23, 2005, 03:43:47 am
I wonder if he has problems at the airport screening area  :-\
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: DrewKaree on November 23, 2005, 12:55:50 pm
I wonder if he has problems at the airport screening area  :-\

Only if there aren't 90 year old grandmothers with "that look in their eye" who are obviously plotting to bring down the plane for her 72-virgin reward.

tommy better watch himself before a 90 year old grandma gets ahold of him.....or Boxx9, whichever comes first.  Wait....I just realized what a terribly TERRIBLY wrong pun that ended up being.

Meh
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: xar256 on November 25, 2005, 08:40:50 pm
Now you just try to tell me that that 'should' that guy decide he doesn't like that look...That he can just take it out and "there will be a nearly imperceptible scar".
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: RandyT on November 26, 2005, 12:31:31 am
I have 5 tattoos and 7 piercings (5 in one ear and 2 where you can't see them)

I used to do tattooing and piercing in my own studio....

I don't find the ink or the jewelry on that gentleman disturbing.

But he has some seriously deep-seated emotional issues he needs to take care of.  That is what his "look" projects, and that is what I find disturbing. 

RandyT
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: missioncontrol on November 27, 2005, 12:06:06 pm
Depeche Mode star Dave Gahan was forced to remove piercing between his testicles and his anus when one of his kids quizzed him about it.

link (http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/mndwebpages/gahan%20removes%20scrotum%20ring%20after%20kids%20see%20it)

Quote
"I knew it was time to get rid of it when one of my kids noticed it and was like, 'Why do you have an earring in your a**?'"



that is friggin funny  :laugh:
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: Zakk on November 28, 2005, 01:03:28 am
More disturbing was why he was showing that to his kids to begin with...

Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: duffjr on November 28, 2005, 02:25:05 am
probably wasn't showing it to him...he must have been walking to the shower when they saw it.
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: shmokes on November 28, 2005, 04:47:40 am
Or in a locker room.  Or perhaps their family simply doesn't have the repressive perverse attitudes about nudity that most of us have had socialized into us. 

Or maybe he's a child molester.  Who knows.  But there are perfectly reasonable alternatives.
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: Bones on November 28, 2005, 07:58:22 am
Maybe he was just doing what we all should do, moon our neighbors when they play that damn crappy dance music too loud.
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: Zakk on November 28, 2005, 09:45:56 am
Isn't that the kind of music depeche mode made to begin with?  ;D
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: DrewKaree on November 28, 2005, 11:16:28 pm
More disturbing was why he was showing that to his kids to begin with...

Dude, great minds don't think alike, but we do think of the same things about certain situations!

The article states his piercing is BETWEEN his dangly bits and his waste-expeller.  Someone please give the perfectly reasonable explanation Gahan was bent over in such a way to display his not-odd-until-then jewelry in front of his kids.

Then explain why he couldn't explain to his kids (since he might be so open and enlightened) why it was that he originally got it, or why that "statement" no longer applied to him, since it was easily turned into something foolish by his kids. 

Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: Bones on November 29, 2005, 01:28:14 am
I am more intrigued by what motivates a person to wake up one day and decide to get their ass flaps pierced...
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: Minwah on November 29, 2005, 05:31:28 am
I don't see much wrong with piercings, not my bag but each to their own.  This part interested me:

Quote
The locum took two minutes to examine Daniel, before prescribing medicine for an upset stomach

Once again well done NHS - fecking useless.
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: Stingray on November 29, 2005, 10:15:42 am
I am more intrigued by what motivates a person to wake up one day and decide to get their ass flaps pierced...

A combination of whiskey, cocaine and drain cleaner.

-S
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: missioncontrol on November 29, 2005, 11:17:45 am
hehe he said bag
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: DrewKaree on November 30, 2005, 12:42:00 am
I am more intrigued by what motivates a person to wake up one day and decide to get their ass flaps pierced...

I am more intrigued about how one goes about procuring "ass flaps".  Can these help you when landing or trying to take off?  I don't want to know what's considered my "rudder" either.
Title: Re: Being "cool" can be deadly!
Post by: missioncontrol on November 30, 2005, 03:06:14 am
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