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Main => Everything Else => Topic started by: JonnyBoy on September 22, 2005, 08:56:16 pm
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...what would you all do? I know it's morbid to think about, but sometimes I think it'd be interesting to live in a post-apocolyptic, zombie-infested Western Pennsylvania. Reminds me of the scene in Dawn of the Dead where they talk about the crazy rednecks in Johnstown having a field day hunting zombies. I'm a few miles from Johnstown.
Well, otherwise, what would you do? My friends and I were brainstorming one night and decided we'd head for the Airport watch tower. It has backup generators, running water, a kitchen and all the necessities inside, and no way those flesh-eaters could break in. Also, it'd be easy to call the emergency rescue teams and they could land on the suspended helipad which is connected to the tower. Of course we'd hoard food from the Wal-Mart just a little under a mile from the airport.
So, what's your plan?
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You brainstormed a zombie survival strategy but I'd bet the farm you don't even have your tornado shelter locations memorized.
My plan: continue drinking heavily.
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Tornados in western PA? Hardly...
Sorry, I'm a zombie-obsessed....erm....zombie.
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Tornados in western PA? Hardly...
Sorry, I'm a zombie-obsessed....erm....zombie.
Well a tornado in Pennsylvania is still a quintillion times more likely to occur than a zombie attack. ;) And scientific fact slams down his bishop proclaiming, "Check... Mate".
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I hadn't ever thought about it, but it would probably be the same solution as pretty much any other bad situation--head for the woods.
It's got a great food supply, plenty of water, and can whip up a good shelter in no time.
The zombies are all going to head for dense populations, rather than trying to hunt down a small, mobile group in the woods; and I'm guessing their rock climbing skills leave a bit to be desired too.
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What if they are the really mobile zombies? Like the 28 Days Later ones? I'd fear not being in a clearing, just because I'm nervous like that.
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You can hitch a ride off a mountain top too.
That's what signal flares are for.
The biggest benefit though is that you don't have to worry if WalMart will have food the next time you go because your food's walking around on the mountain with you.
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I'd head for my parents' cabin in Maine. Unless they're kayaking zombies, I could hide out on the island in the middle of the lake until winter when the lake freezes over.
If I was stuck here (Richmond, VA), I'd armor my car using all the leftover wood and metal from my various projects, make the front and rear of my car truly deadly by mounting all of the blades and stuff I could salvage from my antique tools on it, strap my sword to my back and handgun to my waist, and head for the Federal Reserve building.
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I would stand my ground and take on those mutant brain eating zombie bastard's.
Never back down and show no weakness, that's the Australian way.
" ' " added to bastard's as I have nothing against daisies. Yeah I know the grammar is incorrect, but the censorship these days is a real ---daisies---......
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Well a tornado in Pennsylvania is still a quintillion times more likely to occur than a zombie attack.
This is the best sentence I've read all day and it's 11:59pm.
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Good to see another zombie fanatic. Dawn of the Dead (1978) is my favorite movie. Just four months ago I made the trek from Charlotte, NC to Monroeville, PA to see the mall that it was filmed in. I justified the long trip by saying that the mall is old and I need to see it before it closes down. Also how many people get a chance to see where their favorite movie was shot?
To answer your question I would probably try to take over Wal-Mart. They have a generator, gas pumps, and basically anything else you would need. I also agree with George Romero, the rednecks would have a field day.
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I was going to run a zombie apocolypse as my next roleplaying game, but I was going to keep the theme a secret and have the players make modern NORMAL characters and THEN spring the zombies on them.
The only problem is that the zombie apocolypse is a one shot game, not much fun roleplaying a character hiding in a bunker who can't leave.
I think airport tower would be a bad bet if you ever planned on leaving it.
Unfortunately once things like that start happening they usually start happening pretty fast, and don't give a person much choice.
If I had a real choice I would commandeer the largest ship that could possible be run by a few people, and make for an island with a small population. Islands with small populations would likely not have the zombie problem, or have it under control. If there is no cemetary then they should be home free, because statistically they would have heard the zombie stuff on the radio TV or interweb before the first death on the island.
Of course long term plans depend much on the rules the zombies go by. Zombies that never NEED to eat and move fast would make every large land mass uninhabitable for centuries, eternally if you are getting animal zombies as well.
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I's stay home and get exquisitely drunk.
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I think I posted the zombie survival manual here once.....
I'd search the forums for that start reading it again, then go kick zombie butt
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I think I posted the zombie survival manual here once.....
If anybody did, it was probably you! ;)
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bumped it, better get to studying...........
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As before, this is vital information. Thanks for doing your part to make the world a safer place from the undead.
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It would also help to review movies such as "Night of The Living Dead"
or wait better yet
"When Zombies Attack Sorority Houses"
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"When Zombies Attack Sorority Houses"
Can I get that on BETA?
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I was going to run a zombie apocolypse as my next roleplaying game, but I was going to keep the theme a secret and have the players make modern NORMAL characters and THEN spring the zombies on them.
The only problem is that the zombie apocolypse is a one shot game, not much fun roleplaying a character hiding in a bunker who can't leave.
Sure you can, you add an NPC (or NPCs) who falls into one of the major ZHM (Zombie horror movie) stereotypes.
-The over-protective spouse/parent who refuses to see that their loved one is doomed to become a zombie, lashing out at whoever tries to kill/dispose of the budding zombie in their midst
-The greedy individual who sees some form of profit in the whole situation
-The stir-crazy lunatic who sees zombies as a form of salvation or redemption, or who feels it is too hopeless and wants to end it all for the whole party
It just becomes a far more psychological game, especially as food & supplies run out, radio contact with others dies off, repair supplies begin to prove inadequate to hold off the ravening hordes. Yeah, you can't run a hack-n-slash zombie campaign, but a story-driven campaign is very possible, there's jsut less dice rolling.
As for where I'd go? Cruise ship, if possible. Lots of supplies, water desalination facilities, plants (so there's some possibility of raising crops), plenty of escape means, controllable access points (gangplanks) so even if it never left dock it's defendable, generators, high power radios, helicopter landing strip. And enough supplies to create a zombie killing field/chamber. The only way to eventually stem the tide and restore balance is to be able to lure and kill large numbers of zombies in a safe, repeatable manner. Yes, given the numbers of zombies you're dealing with, you'll likely never reach that point before you're dead, but at least you're making some small progress.
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I'd head for my parents' cabin in Maine.
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I'd head for my parents' cabin in Maine. Unless they're kayaking zombies, I could hide out on the island in the middle of the lake until winter when the lake freezes over.
You're not thinking. Why do zombies need a boat? What, you think they'll drown? They'll just walk through the lake until they get to you.
Paige, on that island, you would have a zombie problem the first time someone died of natural causes.
That's an issue no matter where you go. It's fourth on the list of things to do.
1. Find shelter
2. Find source of water
3. Find source of food
4. Develop containment/quarantine/disposal plans to severly ill/dead people
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That's an issue no matter where you go.
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I should be good to go soon. I just have to stock up a few items, and finish reading this book (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1400049628/qid=1127483096/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-7300710-0001700?v=glance&s=books&n=507846).
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The main problem here is expotential increase of the infestation.
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The main problem here is expotential increase of the infestation. Every time someone dies, they become a zombie. You can create a new person every year but a new zombie every second. Eventually, no matter where you are, they will get in. There's just too many of them. That is why the zombie concept makes such an intriguing horror movie. It's not about what you can do to survive, it's only about how long you can do it.
Yes, but at some point, your rate of new zombie creation (assuming that they can't give birth or infect other species) reaches a limit at the rate of new human creation. Depending on the physiology of the zombies, it could be a winnable war. Do they need food? Will they only eat humans? How long can they survive on one human's worth of food? Will they cannibalize? Is new zombie creation always a guarantee on death by natural causes, or was it a one time seeding, and any new zombies can only be created by infection via bite/bodily fluids?
If they're everliving, not requiring food, and all deaths lead to zombification, you might as well take a shotgun to yourself now. As long as they can starve, it may be possible to weather the storm as the food supply dwindles, naturally reducing the numbers of zombies. At a certain point, you'll be able to bring a force of numbers to bear, and begin to reclaim areas. Simple predator/prey dynamics.
Of course, you could also give rise to some brutal and inhuman practices to ensure the survival of the species. For example, mandatory use of fertility drugs (while they last) to raise the possibility of having multiple births, can dramatically increase your population growth rate. Granted, that puts the woman's health at risk, as well as the health of the babies. But it could make great strides in ensuring the survival of the species overall.
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Yes, but at some point, your rate of new zombie creation (assuming that they can't give birth or infect other species) reaches a limit at the rate of new human creation.
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This proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that Chad will argue about anything. :)
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I love zombies. Awesome movie concept.
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What's not to love about the undead?
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Now, why can't they just use busses to evacuate everyone in the case of a massive zombie attack? Where is the gov't when the zombies attack? What will FEMA do?
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Yes, but at some point, your rate of new zombie creation (assuming that they can't give birth or infect other species) reaches a limit at the rate of new human creation.
That is not correct. Your rate of new zombie creation is only tied to the number of remaining live humans. You don't have to have a baby to make a zombie, you have to have a person die. In a crisis, people die a whole lot more often than they are created. The number of zombies will constantly increase as a matter of nature. A zombie, in theory, would never die, but all people will die eventually. The number of people can decrease but the number of zombies never will. Every person is temporary, while every zombie is permanent.
You're right, but there will come a point of functional limit (once the initial crisis stabilizes) and you have to admit that 0 new humans (once they're all dead) will result in 0 new zombies.
Okay, so your operating assumptions (If I'm reading them correctly) are that every death results in a zombie (unless the brain is destroyed in the death), zombies require no sustenance. Yeah, that's the hopeless scenario. Shotgun to the head time.
My scenario is more the "passing through the tail of the comet/insert event here that releases a virus that brings back the recently deceased, making them able to infect others." Once the comet passes, the only way to create new zombies is through bodily fluid (even saliva) from another zombie. So if I have a heart attack after the comet. I'm dead. If a zombie muches on my corpse, I'm a zombie. My scenario also has the zombies relying on human brain matter to survive, with a zombie "starving out" within 6 months of resurrection if unfed. That is a survivable scenario that will prove fatal to probably 99+% of humanity before it burns out.
/Also thinks zombies are a fantastic movie concept, wonders why nobody has attempted a zombie TV series.
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You're right, but there will come a point of functional limit (once the initial crisis stabilizes) and you have to admit that 0 new humans (once they're all dead) will result in 0 new zombies.
Yeah, but at that point, everyone is dead, so who cares?
Okay, so your operating assumptions (If I'm reading them correctly) are that every death results in a zombie (unless the brain is destroyed in the death), zombies require no sustenance.
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Good to see another zombie fanatic. Dawn of the Dead (1978) is my favorite movie. Just four months ago I made the trek from Charlotte, NC to Monroeville, PA to see the mall that it was filmed in. I justified the long trip by saying that the mall is old and I need to see it before it closes down. Also how many people get a chance to see where their favorite movie was shot?
To answer your question I would probably try to take over Wal-Mart. They have a generator, gas pumps, and basically anything else you would need. I also agree with George Romero, the rednecks would have a field day.
Yeah, I'm just a few miles away from Monroeville. My World Cultures teacher was actually in the movie. He gets his arm cut off by one of the motorcycle gang members. Needless to say, he's a cool guy.
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He gets his arm cut off by one of the motorcycle gang members. Needless to say, he's a cool guy.
What luck, when that happened to me, no one filmed it, so all they said was "poor guy".
"Cool guy" is better.
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Tornados in western PA? Hardly...
Sorry, I'm a zombie-obsessed....erm....zombie.
Sorry, but as a former resident of Western PA (Pittsburgh) I should point you to this:
http://www.erh.noaa.gov/er/pit/tor98.htm
Never say never.
Also, My Mother actually was a Zombie for the remake of Night of the Living Dead that Romero filmed in Washington County, PA. When they did the local Premiere, they called her back to Do the Zombie thing around the theater. It so happened that CNN Headline News was there. I'm sitting at home that night, flipping channels, and there is my Zombie Mom chatting it up with the reporter on National TV - truly surreal. As a resul I have a soft spot in my heart for Zombies, and hold no ill will twoards them.
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Yeah, the whole tornado comment wasn't meant to be taken very seriously. I was just joking around, but I still like Zombies.
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I'd head for my parents' cabin in Maine. Unless they're kayaking zombies, I could hide out on the island in the middle of the lake until winter when the lake freezes over.
You're not thinking. Why do zombies need a boat? What, you think they'll drown? They'll just walk through the lake until they get to you.
The bottom is too mucky to walk across without getting stuck, plus you can't see the island from the shore due to its surroundings. In addition, the island itself is actually a very steep rock that juts out of the water, so it is a very defendable position. Add that to the fact that it's in a very small town (population 300) that would be a poor source of zombie food (largest town within an hour's drive is 8,000 people at maximum), and it's an ideal location.
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The bottom is too mucky to walk across without getting stuck, plus you can't see the island from the shore due to its surroundings. In addition, the island itself is actually a very steep rock that juts out of the water, so it is a very defendable position.
Zombies are persistent. Where else they gonna go?
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The main problem here is expotential increase of the infestation. Every time someone dies, they become a zombie. You can create a new person every year but a new zombie every second. Eventually, no matter where you are, they will get in. There's just too many of them. That is why the zombie concept makes such an intriguing horror movie. It's not about what you can do to survive, it's only about how long you can do it.
Doesn't that depend completely on which kind of Zombie infestation we are talking about? Not all Zombie infestations are the (long) dead coming back to life. Some infestations (28 days later, Shawn of the Dead) requires contact with a pre-infected person. Thus, wiping an island, boat, Airport tower, and etc clean, you could allow people to die graceful, normal deaths.
P.S. for all that say zombie attacks could never happen, a while ago, someone posted a video of a guy messed up on PCP or something. Dude was acting like a zombie. All it would take was a virus that produced the same effect as that drug... Boom, instant 28 days later zombie style fest.
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Yeah, but people on PCP can be killed as easily as a normal person.
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have you never seen a zombie movie
it's not the zombies you have to worry about its the humans
imagine the looters
or the red neck hunters
I'd be more afraid of my neighbors
the zombies don't have guns or other weapons
run now, run for your lifes
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Yeah, but people on PCP can be killed as easily as a normal person.
Once again, this depends on which zombie movie you base it off of.
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This thread just keeps getting wierder.
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I base my rules off the people in my office.
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The zombies in my office cannot be killed or stopped at all. We're doomed.
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In my office, I think I am the zombie. I can be killed. Hence, zombies can be killed. Hence, white is black, and I'm going to die in the next pedestrian crossing.
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It's not the zombies you have to fear, it's the hot-headed army guys.
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The bad actors. Make sure they don't destroy Bub. He's critical to the research.
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mmmmmmmm brains
(http://www.bbspot.com/Images/News_Features/2001/1/zombies.jpg)
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Bub also learned how to shave.
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Salute, and he could shoot a gun.
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Yeah, he shot the guy who kind of looked like an illegitimate Baldwin.
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The guy who couldn't even act well when he was standing next to a freakin zombie.
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Home Zombie Defense (http://cs-people.bu.edu/aaron/turret/turret.htm)
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No more bother about accidentally shooting yourself in the foot. The gun that does it all for you. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Have any of you guys read the "Monster Island (http://www.brokentype.com/monster/)" series by David Wellington?
Its an online Zombie novel, he's into the third book at the moment. It chronicles the zombie plague spreading from an Island(book one) to the nation level(book two) and then to the entire planet(book three).
Its an excellent story and a fun read overall. Lots and lots of zombie goodness, twists, turns, surprises, its got everything. The first two books are complete and online for reading, the third book is almost finished(he posts 3 new chapters a week, and only has a handful of chapters left). So basically, if you start reading a few chapters a day of the first two books, by the time you're ready for the third it should be done and you can read it straight through.
But check out the zomebie goodness and enjoy the story!
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I will check it out.
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This thread inspired me to finally go out and get a copy of the Dawn of the Dead remake. I like the movie, but I'm still a fanboy of the original Dawn.
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I been thinking about this and have only just got time to reply ;)
Lets say we had an attack like resident evil if u die ur dead but if ur bitten and die u become a zombie
Now say you get to a remote island that has no islands around in viewing distance.
You would be safe
A zombie CAN walk in the water but to get to the island they would be going to the bottom of the sea and they would explode from the pressure so they can't get you if they tried.
But now ur gotta wonder if the fish start eating the remains and it only effects humans then it would pass on through the sea and one day you would eat a fish infected and then when u die BAM zombies again.
but if its somethere were everyone dies and becomes a zombie you could go to a remote island and then have heart monitors on each other so if someone dies u know and then u need to get rid of the zombie.
But i was thinking wouldnt it be cool if all of us made a kickass zombie movie ;)
i can see it working do u know why? cause u can do it in blair witch style your a real person with a cam and your taping the zombies while trying to get away from them it would make the movie so much more real and if it was done in hollywood you know it would scare you more if they did it through a normal camera and made the sets look good.
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Zombies eh...I love zombie films too.
Not quite sure what I would do...I live slightly in the sticks so I wouldn't have many places to go, and I would probably encounter many more zombs by going to the nearest town/city.
Most people don't have guns here (a few people have shotguns) but I probably wouldn't have easy access to a gun. So I would try to make some zombie-killing device. I do have a cricket bat so I could use the Shaun of the Dead appoach as a last resort. I also have a GoPed so perhaps I could make some kind of chainsaw or something.
If I were to be in certain doom then I wouldn't look forward to trying to cricket-bat myself to death to avoid being eaten alive tho :D
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A zombie CAN walk in the water but to get to the island they would be going to the bottom of the sea and they would explode from the pressure so they can't get you if they tried.
Why can't zombies swim? Or float? Or take a boat?
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Why can't zombies swim? Or float? Or take a boat?
They don't usually have the ability to use tools, or do complex things. However they might still have 'memories' which when triggered give them the ability to do so.
So it is possible, but probably unlikely for most of them most of the time.
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Dead bodies float. All you'd need is some zombies that fell in the water and eventually the current could take them to your island.
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Dead bodies float. All you'd need is some zombies that fell in the water and eventually the current could take them to your island.
Good point. There are a lot of critters in the sea that will eat dead stuff though. There may not be much left by the time the zombie got there.
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Zombies have time. If you have enough zombies, and enough time, one of them will make it.
Or, maybe a fish eats a zombie part, becomes a zombiefish, and it spreads. There goes your main source of protein.
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A zombie CAN walk in the water but to get to the island they would be going to the bottom of the sea and they would explode from the pressure so they can't get you if they tried.
Why can't zombies swim?
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Dead bodies float. All you'd need is some zombies that fell in the water and eventually the current could take them to your island.
Electrify the water. I've seen that done before and it worked, IIRC.
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You live on a desert island in an apocalyptic scenario... how exactly do you plan on electrifying an entire harbor? And to what purpose?
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You live on a desert island in an apocalyptic scenario... how exactly do you plan on electrifying an entire harbor? And to what purpose?
because it would be cool. :)
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zombies don't float there is no air in the lungs :)
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How do you know that? Dead bodies float.
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They weigh less than a duck, therefore they must float.
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We keep them afloat by filling their pockets with very small rocks.
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And churches.
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A zombie CAN walk in the water but to get to the island they would be going to the bottom of the sea and they would explode from the pressure so they can't get you if they tried.
Why can't zombies swim?
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Zombies are slow and docile. I am more concerned about the Wolfman.
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but you forget the zombie won't be staying still he will be upright and still moving which will make him sink and if your on a island far out he will blow up from the pressure cause he will be going down to far.
Plus sooner or later his lungs will fill up with water so he will become a rock and flot down but the fact that the zombie won't stop moving will make him go down.
But as i said all depends on what type of zombie scene were going on about. ;D
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Well, as long as the Zombies aren't performing choreographed dance moves, I think we, with we being Mckaully Caulkin, are safe.
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You live on a desert island in an apocalyptic scenario... how exactly do you plan on electrifying an entire harbor? And to what purpose?
Doesn't matter. My friend lives on an island in a relatively small lake. I'd be there. Cut the socket off an extension lead, plug it in and drop it off the jetty. That'd do it ::)
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When the zombies take over, who is working the power plants?
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exactly :p
why not go to a army compound it should have food lots of guns and made to keep the zombies out.
you could hold up there for AGES if the zombies would die after a while and if u die u don't become one ;D
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why not go to a army compound it should have food lots of guns and made to keep the zombies out.
Erm, there aren't very many military compounds... and they have stuff designed to keep you out... like soldiers with bigger guns than you.
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but you forget the zombie won't be staying still he will be upright and still moving which will make him sink and if your on a island far out he will blow up from the pressure cause he will be going down to far.
Actually he'd be crushed from the pressure, he wouldn't blow up.
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I still say he'd just float along the current. Maybe not on the surface, but just like any other flotsam. Eventually he'd wash up someplace. The big question would be how much the decomposition would be accelerated by the salt water.
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I still say he'd just float along the current.
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Giant squid love zombie jerky.
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Giant squid love zombie jerky.
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Well, now, let's be honest here. Who *doesn't* love zombie zerky?
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A guy that has difficulty with his lip does not like zombie zerky.
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Damnit... Stupid typos ruining my comment...
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there always seems to be an army base in some zombie movies hehe
u are right he would be crushed instead of blown up but he would still sink down and be crushed before he got to u so it all depends if the fish or other animals would be affected if they ate him :p
I can see it now tho zombie jerky now with SALT :D
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Damnit...
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Not to worry if you have a typo Chad will find it
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I must be a real comic genius, considering all the typos you point out of mine....
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You're gitfed.
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You're gitfed.
well my mom allways said I was special ;D
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You're gitfed.
If this was intentional it's funny, but if it was unintentional it's frackin' hilarious.
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lol, nice catch sting
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It was intentional. Dhu.
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yeah nice cover-up =p
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It was a dual burn, probably too subtle.
Intentional typo.
Gitfed = git fed = fed by gits
eh, didn't work.
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fed by gits, lol. are they like gimps?
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He's an aussie...
...git is a british slur.
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This joke is getting less funny by the nanosecond. ;)
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Seriously, I threw a rock and missed the ocean.
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yo mama so dumb, she tried to throw a rock at the ground and hit her foot!
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I threw myself into my work and missed.
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Yo mama smell so bad, at the zoo monkeys fling crap at her to improve it.
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2 fav mama jokes:
Yo mamas so fat she jumped up in the air and got stuck
Yo mamas so fat I swerved to miss her and ran out of gas
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lol nice ones
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Yo mama so fat, I tried to kick her ass and my foot got stuck.
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yo mama so dumb, she tried to throw a rock at the ground and hit her foot!
at least my mama can see her feet....