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Arcade Collecting => Miscellaneous Arcade Talk => Topic started by: DemonBrew on September 15, 2005, 07:35:25 am

Title: 100 most violent video games
Post by: DemonBrew on September 15, 2005, 07:35:25 am
Here's a link to someone's rating for the 100 most violent video games.

http://p204.ezboard.com/fthetop100mostviolentvideogamesofalltime87239frm2 (http://p204.ezboard.com/fthetop100mostviolentvideogamesofalltime87239frm2)

I still have problems playing Chiller. It's like watching a train wreck, you can't not play the game, at least for a few minutes.
Title: Re: 100 most violent video games
Post by: DaveMMR on September 15, 2005, 08:05:34 am
Link's not working.

And I agree on Chiller.  They spent so much time trying to shock the player they forgot to make a fun game but you still fire it up just to see how disgusting it is (or tries to be).
Title: Re: 100 most violent video games
Post by: RayB on September 15, 2005, 09:02:46 am
Your link is bad.
Title: Re: 100 most violent video games
Post by: ChadTower on September 15, 2005, 09:58:01 am

MK.  For its time, MK was ultraviolent and graphic.

Time Killer.  Tried to outdo MK but was such a crappy game no one played it.  Time Killer was banned in some areas, though.

Title: Re: 100 most violent video games
Post by: armax on September 15, 2005, 10:22:19 am
http://p204.ezboard.com/fthetop100mostviolentvideogamesofalltime87239frm2

fixed link.
Title: Re: 100 most violent video games
Post by: ChadTower on September 15, 2005, 10:28:36 am
I tried to play Illbleed, but even if they were in bed, the sound was too creepy for my kids.  My older son told me he had a nightmare with the Illbleed music, so I put the game away and haven't gone back.
Title: Re: 100 most violent video games
Post by: ChadTower on September 15, 2005, 10:32:15 am
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The final level has a girl sticking out of a grave with her legs buried, severed heads impaled on stakes surround her. You can shoot off her shirt and her bra, exposing her tits, (damn, it even had nudity back then,) then you can shoot off her arms, and head, then shoot her body in half. Available at romnation.net, go download that ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---.

That's just quality writing.
Title: Re: 100 most violent video games
Post by: MrTroy on September 15, 2005, 11:03:51 am
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Starcraft... A Diablo style game, with huge body counts, there would be dozens of on screen enemies attacking all at one that you could slaughter. Enemies could be ripped open and blown apart, soaking the entire battle field red with blood. Demo available on download.com.

Dude lost all Credibility with me. Those games have only two things in common... They're made by blizzard and they're 2d Isometric. His list is really weird. But I guess everyone has their own personal order.
Title: Re: 100 most violent video games
Post by: Stingray on September 15, 2005, 11:55:14 am
Yeah seriously. How does Diablo have any gameplay at all in common with Starcraft? Why would he have not compared it to Warcraft, which gameplay-wise is functionally identical?

-S
Title: Re: 100 most violent video games
Post by: ChadTower on September 15, 2005, 11:56:54 am

The bastard.  Let's put him on the ballot for President. That seems to be a good way to get back at someone.
Title: Re: 100 most violent video games
Post by: Stingray on September 15, 2005, 11:58:54 am
He does seem dumb enough for the job.

-S
Title: Re: 100 most violent video games
Post by: ChadTower on September 15, 2005, 12:03:45 pm

More importantly, he's dumb enough to put himself through a process where every aspect of his past, present, future, and environment are going to be thoroughly trashed and retrashed by thousands of media jackals.  And that's on a daily basis.
 
Running for President is worse than being abducted by aliens with an anal fetish.
Title: Re: 100 most violent video games
Post by: Stingray on September 15, 2005, 12:08:17 pm
That's a pretty vivid picture you paint there. Definitely a picture that I sincerely wish GWB was not in. :o

-S
Title: Re: 100 most violent video games
Post by: DemonBrew on September 15, 2005, 12:45:00 pm
http://p204.ezboard.com/fthetop100mostviolentvideogamesofalltime87239frm2

fixed link.

Sorry about that.

Yeah, as with ANY top list of things, they always get something wrong. I remember about a year ago, local rock radio station's top 500 songs OF ALL TIME had some song by Oasis as #1. Huh?
Title: Re: 100 most violent video games
Post by: ChadTower on September 15, 2005, 12:46:10 pm
Mmm, cross marketing.
Title: Re: 100 most violent video games
Post by: DaveMMR on September 15, 2005, 01:38:31 pm
He gets a few things wrong in that list.  I'm not talking about the selections (and some are stretching it a bit) but some of his "facts".  Here's a couple of examples:

- He said "Metal Gear" series when his description clearly implies the "Metal Gear Solid" series.  Bodies do disappear in the original (not sure about the sequels.

- For "Phantasmagoria, he said "made by the creators of Half-Life".  Nope, it should read "published".  The first game was made by Roberta Williams (King's Quest, et al) and the second one was made by idiots.  Night Trap is a totally different game and series and he just grouped them together because it's "live action".

- "Blood": Caleb (I think that was his name) was not a cowboy.  Why did he assume that?  Because he wears a hat?

There are probably others but those are the ones I caught as I skimmed it.

And I have to say that I can't stand that he's hyping Postal 2 because of its violence when it's clearly a bad game with or without the violence and shouldn't be played by anyone simply because it may make you hate this hobby.
Title: Re: 100 most violent video games
Post by: brophog on September 16, 2005, 01:47:37 am
The real problem with that list is it's just way too long. It really should be something like 10 or maybe 20. With 100 he almost has to invent reasons to put games in the list. Really, almost any modern video game can be put into his listing simply due to the graphical realism.

Let's face it, most video games are based on violence of some sort. You typically shoot something or destroy something or get yourself destroyed. Space invaders has you shooting aliens and the only thing making it non violent is the fact the poor aliens are merely crude sprites. Pac-Man not only gets destroyed but vaporized. Frogger has his guts spewed all over the highway. Getting hit by a bus is messy business! 8)
Title: Re: 100 most violent video games
Post by: ChadTower on September 16, 2005, 08:53:27 am

A lot of violence in games has to do with intent, though.  All of the games he listed are aggressively violent.  You're seeking to do harm to something else, usually another person. 

In contrast, Pac-Man is fleeing the ghosts and occasionally will strike out in self defense.  In Space Invaders you are defending your bunkers and self.  Frogger is just trying to cross a busy highway and trying to avoid the cars.  I wouldn't call any of those games iherently violent.
Title: Re: 100 most violent video games
Post by: brophog on September 16, 2005, 01:04:40 pm
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You're seeking to do harm to something else, usually another person. 

That's my whole point. Mario whacks guys with a hammer, but he looks like a cartoon and is therefore deemed rather comical.

Take the same situation with life-like characters and that hammer doesn't look as comical anymore.

Games today have certainly been marketed for their violence, but it's not the violence itself that is drawing the attention, it's the 'life-like' violence that is doing so. Perception changes a great deal when things appear more human and less 'cartoony'.
Title: Re: 100 most violent video games
Post by: ChadTower on September 16, 2005, 01:11:00 pm

In which game does he whack people with a hammer?
Title: Re: 100 most violent video games
Post by: Stingray on September 16, 2005, 01:24:10 pm
People that are very cleverly disguised as barrels.

-S
Title: Re: 100 most violent video games
Post by: ChadTower on September 16, 2005, 01:27:51 pm

And crabs.
Title: Re: 100 most violent video games
Post by: brophog on September 16, 2005, 03:15:28 pm
 ;D
Title: Re: 100 most violent video games
Post by: Level42 on September 18, 2005, 09:30:13 am
I'm missing Barbarian (by Palace software, not the Psygnosis game with the same name) for the Atari ST. It featured sword fighting and with correct timing you'd chop of your oponents head and the blood was streaming everywhere. The sound of the actual chop also was very acurate (not that I know from experience though ;) )
Then a little monster would walk across the screen and kick the head of the poor victim and it would bounce of screen making more "nice" sounds....

Fot it's time, and probably because I was a lot younger then, I thougt it was rather a filthy game, but I actualy liked the gameplay...

http://www.retro-experience.co.uk/atarist/barbarianpalace.html