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Title: 6 button for second player setup in MAME?
Post by: spongebue on July 02, 2005, 10:44:46 pm
According to a site I saw (don't remember where) the last 2 buttons for the second player are disabled by default.  Is there any way to change this?  Some games (like Marvel Super Heroes) need all 6 buttons, as I'm sure you know, and I'd love to kick my brother's butt in this game, without cheating.  ;D

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks,
spongebue
Title: Re: 6 button for second player setup in MAME?
Post by: monkeybomb on July 02, 2005, 11:05:04 pm
First of cheating against your brother is always an acceptable form of competition.

Second, when the roms are done loading hit tab.

then hit input (general)  -  player 2 controls  -  go down to button 5 and hit enter  then hit I

do the same for 6 but hit k

Esc, esc, esc
Title: Re: 6 button for second player setup in MAME?
Post by: spongebue on July 02, 2005, 11:58:03 pm
ok, cool... do I have to do this for every game?  I hope not, since I have a lot of games (since, um, I own every arcade imaginable :P )

Thanks,
spongebue
Title: Re: 6 button for second player setup in MAME?
Post by: monkeybomb on July 03, 2005, 12:27:10 am
No you don't.  As long as you use "input (general)" 

That's what "general" stands for.  The other option is "this game" or something like that.
Title: Re: 6 button for second player setup in MAME?
Post by: SirPeale on July 03, 2005, 07:43:57 am
Most importantly, when you do this, DON'T pause the game!
Title: Re: 6 button for second player setup in MAME?
Post by: daveg2000 on July 03, 2005, 07:47:09 am
I already have my buttons programmed.. but Im just curious...

Why can't you pause the game before setting the buttons?
Does mame freak out or something?
Title: Re: 6 button for second player setup in MAME?
Post by: Tiger-Heli on July 03, 2005, 01:49:31 pm
I already have my buttons programmed.. but Im just curious...

Why can't you pause the game before setting the buttons?
Does mame freak out or something?
Probably not for I and K.

If you set a key to L Alt with it paused, I think MAME says "L Alt R Alt"  It's just much safer to change things without MAME paused.
Title: Re: 6 button for second player setup in MAME?
Post by: Howard_Casto on July 03, 2005, 06:53:31 pm
Well yes... but anyone that has the alt keys mapped to a button should have their mame cab dropped on them  :)

ctrl+alt = bad uumk

Title: Re: 6 button for second player setup in MAME?
Post by: Tiger-Heli on July 05, 2005, 06:46:04 am
Well yes... but anyone that has the alt keys mapped to a button should have their mame cab dropped on them  :)

ctrl+alt = bad uumk
It's never given me any problems.
Title: Re: 6 button for second player setup in MAME?
Post by: Howard_Casto on July 05, 2005, 06:15:19 pm
You must not play game on your cabinet then..... ctrl + alt + a key = a hotkey. 

Trust me on this, if you haven't ran into problems then you are in the extreme minority.

Even if you don't use hotkeys, if you have the driver for a multimedia keyboard installed hotkeys are pre-defined. 
Title: Re: 6 button for second player setup in MAME?
Post by: NinjaEpisode on July 05, 2005, 06:51:27 pm
I've never had the problem either.
Title: Re: 6 button for second player setup in MAME?
Post by: Tiger-Heli on July 07, 2005, 07:56:18 am
You must not play game on your cabinet then..... ctrl + alt + a key = a hotkey. 
For what?  Ctrl + Alt + A is a HotKey to do what in what program?
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Trust me on this, if you haven't ran into problems then you are in the extreme minority.
Even if you don't use hotkeys, if you have the driver for a multimedia keyboard installed hotkeys are pre-defined. 
As NinjaEpisode said, no need for HotKeys or Multimedia keyboards on a MAME cab.
Title: Re: 6 button for second player setup in MAME?
Post by: Minwah on July 07, 2005, 08:02:06 am
Trust me on this, if you haven't ran into problems then you are in the extreme minority.

In theory I don't like the Ctrl/Alt keys etc for gaming...but since they are MAME defaults I have always stuck with them and guess what...I've never had any problems either (& yes I do play games occasionally).

Also, I have a multimedia keyboard (only because it is wireless & I got it cheap), and still no problems.

I think 'extreme minority' is an overexaggeration, or the boards would be flooded with related problems all the time as most people use MAME default keys.
Title: Re: 6 button for second player setup in MAME?
Post by: Silver on July 07, 2005, 07:35:12 pm
I find the problem was always Ctrl, Alt and space

That was the real killer - forever changes focus, brings the desktop backup... Also with other keys in use, Alt+x would quits the current program (EXTREMELY annoying on level 5 of Metal Slug!). Alt+ a lot of keys tends to bring up menus on my machine (no fancy keyboard).

I changed my mame defaults to A,S,D instead of Ctrl,Alt,Space years ago and have never looked back.

But then if it works for you - stick with it.
Title: Re: 6 button for second player setup in MAME?
Post by: ahmer on July 07, 2005, 07:51:02 pm
You must not play game on your cabinet then..... ctrl + alt + a key = a hotkey. 

Trust me on this, if you haven't ran into problems then you are in the extreme minority. 

The man speaks the truth.

Ctrt + Alt + another key will irritate you sometimes.
These keys are not a good choice to set them in your can for playing game.I used them for a while and got a problem,Suddenly my monitor rotated automatically.Because Ctrl + alt + a bunch of keys press together can close windows internal services and some time create (Ctrl + alt + del) key code and that can hurt you alot.So it will be better to reconfigure the defualt mame keys.



 
Title: Re: 6 button for second player setup in MAME?
Post by: u_rebelscum on July 08, 2005, 03:08:33 pm
The only ones I find from testing on my comp at work[/]s] (I didn't say that ;) ) are:

alt-tab
alt-enter
ctrl-alt-delete (either delete key)
the "win key"

"win key" is between the ctrlr and alt keys.
delete is not mapped to any mame input
enter is player 3 button 3
tab is the UI menu (admin) button

I bet my home comp is the same.  But I know some apps and drivers (video in particular) add hot-key combos, so others may have more problem combos.

Of the four above, I only have had actual, in-game problems with the "win key", which isn't even a ctrl/alt combo.  But I don't have a 3 player CP, and only play on the keyboard when I'm playing alone and too lazy to pull out my CP (so I don't have problems with my CP).

OTOH, running into a problem combo just once is bad.  IMO, the ctrl/alt is way less a possible problem than Ipac's shift button defaults (unless you have a four player CP), but you might want to cover both of them.  [shrug]
Title: Re: 6 button for second player setup in MAME?
Post by: Tiger-Heli on July 08, 2005, 03:20:05 pm
Alt-Enter will toggle MAME between windowed and full-screen unless you reassign Toggle Fullscreen on the TAB - Inputs (All Games) - User Interface screen.

For the Windows key, get WinKeyKiller or LogoLess as I mention here: http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,38016.msg341431.html#msg341431I