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Arcade Collecting => Miscellaneous Arcade Talk => Topic started by: unclet on April 28, 2005, 12:56:18 pm
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If I were going around looking for a pinball machine, which one should I try to locate which is a high collector's item and which hopefully will remain a collector's item (ie: not just a fad):
1) Twilight Zone
2) The Addams Family
etc ...
etc....
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This is the most requested pins from the local pinball shop in Utah. I know Mr. Pinball probably has a better list on his site, but I can't find it.
I think the Pinball database has one too.
1. Twilight Zone
2. Addams Family
3. Indiana Jones
4. FunHouse
5. Eight Ball Deluxe - Theater of Magic (tie)
6. Midevil Madmess
7. Cyclone
8. Attack from Mars - High Speed (tie)
9. Creature From the Black Lagoon
10. Scared Stiff
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The list from Treasure Cove (http://www.treasure-cove.net/TOP50.htm)is compiled from a survey taken on RGP (rec.games.pinball). The Top 10 there for 2004 reads...
1. Medieval Madness
2. The Addams Family
3. Twilight Zone
4. Indiana Jones
5. WhiteWater
6. Attack from Mars
7. Cirqus Voltaire
8. Lord of the Rings
9. No Good Gofers
10. The Simpsons Party Pinball
While I don't necessarily agree with that list 100% (Simpons would be MUCH higher, No Good Gofers not on there, etc...) it is a good list. They also have the stats for 2003 listed on there. Go take a look...
As for collectability, it seems like many of the later-produced, lower production run games from Williams/Bally like Cirqus Voltaire and Cactus Canyon have become the big collectors items, along with Medieval Madness.
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Starburst Coin in Toronto had a Medival Madness in their showroom and they just sold it for $6300cdn.
I would add Funhouse to that mix. Maybe not a top 10, but in the top 15 for sure.
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I would add Funhouse to that mix. Maybe not a top 10, but in the top 15 for sure.
Completely agree 100%. This is making me want to play these games again yet they are nowhere to be found. The majority of pins in my area are the newer Sterns, and most of them are tied to the classic lazy operator that doesn't want to maintain pins. ARGH! At least I've got my Whirlwind at home.
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My personal top ten list would include in no particular order
Twilight Zone
Adams Family
Dr. Who
Kiss
Star Trek
Corvette
The Simpsons
Star Wars
Godzilla
Spiderman
And yes I know there are multiple versions of many of those titles. In those cases I'd be happy with any variation.
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My personal top ten pins..
Funhouse
World Cup 94
Simpsons Party
The Simpsons
Whirlwind
Diner
Comet
High Speed
Indy 500
Any Pitch and Bat game
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Yep, I REALLY want a pitch and bat game. Salem (MA) Willows used to have about 15 gorgeous ones that I played every time I was in MA as a kid. Great stuff.
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Yep, I REALLY want a pitch and bat game.
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Cool. The ones I used to play were much like pinball machines, actually... shaped the same way, you would hit the ball into targets on the field and in the backbox they had guys rounding the bases. Very, very cool.
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My personal favorites :
KISS
GUNS N" ROSES
BACK TO THE FUTURE
SOUTH PARK
TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES
TERMINATOR
And im not shouting !!
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Personal favs:
Funhouse
Cyclone
Whirlwind(because of the fan and spinning playfield!)
Haunted House(the second playfield underneath is pretty cool)
Creature from the Black Lagoon(I just love the artwork)
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I've been waiting forever for a WCS 94' to come in my area. I passed up a chance to get a Star Wars and now I'm kicking myself for it.
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I've been waiting forever for a WCS 94' to come in my area. I passed up a chance to get a Star Wars and now I'm kicking myself for it.
When I was doing road sales for Costco. I would be on the out for most of the day visiting businesses. You where expected to sell at least one membership a day. So whenever I sold one, I used go to a pub and take a long break and play the World Cup 94 pinball for a few hours. Ever since then, I've always wanted one...
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If you are picking based on lists, then pick based on a list of what PLAYERs like, not what collectors like. Collectors are famous for overhyping low production games from big companies. I have never played any of the "R@RE" Bally/Williams pins, but I wouldn't want to if they are anything like the high dollar vector and laserdisc turds that arcade collectors pretend are fun.
My personal favorite pin is Doctor Who.
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I've never played it, but on aesthetic value alone, the pinball/video game hybrid of Star wars (with the screen in the back of the field)
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What is a good sized production run? I see a lot of machines in the 4-5000 range... the TZ is around 15000, I think... but one of my other pins is like 740 or something small. I really don't know what average is here.
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Production run is one of those things where you can't say a number is high or low without knowing the company that made it. Goes for pins and vids both.
Gonna talk about vids for a second because I don't know a lot of solid pin numbers.
Any Atari game with a run under 1000 is considered really rare. Even though most COMMON Exidy games had runs in the hundreds.
And it is also a combination of company, and era. Games like Kangaroo (fun, but still sort of a turd), did runs near 10,000 units back in the golden age, while smash hit games in the modern age seldom ever make 5 digit production numbers.
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I used to play this game at my godfathers arcade when I was little. And I would love to find one for sale. http://marvin3m.com/baseball/basechmp.htm
oh baby, that's the one I want too.
Art
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Since everyone else seems to be pitching in:
Theater of Magic
Cirqus Voltaire
Star Trek TNG
Dr Who
Addams Family
Call me a modernist but I like complex pins where the gameplay keeps me entertained in the long haul. I'm a player, not a collector btw.
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I really, really feel left out of this conversation. As a 20 year old, I missed a lot of the pinball era (and game era for that matter), but the problem was I never had much contact with pins. The Jersey Shore and the like always had a ton of games, and maybe 5 pins, 10 tops. I haven't even heard of most of the pins you guys are talking about, let alone play them :(
I really love the Star Wars pin, as well has Monopoly and Simpsons, but all of those are fairly new. I wish there was somewhere I could play some older pins :(
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I wish there was somewhere I could play some older pins :(
There is, sort of. (http://www.vpinmame.com/) It's not the same as real pinball, though.
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No it isn't but it's pretty darned entertaining all the same. 8) I'm still somewhat in awe of people who make the VP conversions of really complex pins like ST:TNG. That's one hell of a lot of very exacting work.
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My faves:
Star Trek: TNK
Mars Attacks
Theater of Magic
Arabian Nights
Who Dunnit
South Park
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big fan of south park and whitewater
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I'd love to get a Guns N Roses... wonder if I could trade The Shadow for it.
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i also missed out on this pinball stuff...
the funny thing is that i brought it up with my ladyfriend and she loves pins. after that, i told her i was interested in getting one, since i obviously missed something great and she automatically shot me down. i guess i've spent too much on an arcade machine already.
she actually told me to just put some pinball games on the arcade machine. man, and i thought she didn't know anything about games (or listened to me when i talked about them either ::))...
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As a kid, I thought Black Knight was the best pinball table around. Very advanced for it's time. The sound featured a talking voice instead of just beeps and dings. Also one of the first I remember to have a split (2 level) playing surface.
I'm kind of surprised it hasn't been listed yet.
Black Knight and Kiss are the top 2 on my list.
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Black Knight is one of those tables I keep coming back to thinking "I'll give it another chance" but I something about it never clicks with me. I think the split level playfield is one of those ideas that look great on paper but in practice it just doesnt work for me. Whatever you're doing on the table feels cramped and I think the gameplay suffers as a result.
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My faves:
Star Trek: TNK
Mars Attacks
Theater of Magic
Arabian Nights
Who Dunnit
South Park
I have a WhoDunnit... while it isn't my first choice I do enjoy it.
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So many good tables to look for, and not enough $$$ or space to have them all...
I'm finally building my first cabinet this summer, and after that The wife wants to get a pin. Our choices are:
Tales of the Arabian Nights
Attack From Mars
Road Show
Addams Family would also be considered if the price was good. It's a table both of us like, and for some reason seems to have a lot of appeal to new (non) players.
Still it always comes back to what you like to play - regardless of what its potential as a collectible is, that would be the only factor that matters in my oipinion.
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Exactly. Questions like "What is this pin worth" are pretty pointless. Twilight Zone is supposed to be a desirable pin but if you're trying to sell one to ME it isn't worth beans. I don't especially like the table and I wouldn't pay through the nose for one. If you had a Cirqus Voltaire on the other hand I'd probably pay over the average price for one since I love that table.
It all depends on what it's worth to the person you're selling it to. If it's someone whos buying just one pin for their home because its always been a favorite of theirs then suddenly it's worth a hell of a lot more money.
(and BTW I'd go for AF but that's just my opinion :P )
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From my own playing experience i like Stargate (Have that one)
-Indiana Jones (love this on pinmame--would love to get one of these machines someday)
-star wars (any flavour)
-lord of the rings
-southpark
basically any game where i like the theme and it has lots of toys to keep me interested--explains why I like robot chicken so much, my attention span is that of a 12 year old :D
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I love Who?Dunnit. It's one of those magical final Williams pins that were so great just before the bottom fell out for good.
I also love...
Back to the Future
Black Knight 2000
Medival Madness
Twilight Zone
Monopoly
LOTR
Simpsons Party
Star Trek TNG
...and...
The Addams Family (of course!)
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My pinball most wanted includes:
Bobby Orr Power Play
Phantom of the Opera
Street Fighter II
Royal Rumble
I'd be happy with just those four.
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I collect older Bally pins from the late seventies early eighties, the most sought after pin I own is probably KISS but the game play isn't particulary great.
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addams family
comet
elvira and the party monsters
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Anyone here ever play any of the following? I'd like some opinions if I can get them:
Phantom of the Opera
Guns N Roses
NFL
Super Bowl
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The Guns N Roses one is pretty cool. But you'll need to enjoy their music in order to enjoy the game...
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I'm a big fan of much of their music, which is why I'm interested.
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My Two Cents
I remember KISS, Meteor, and Harlem Globetrotters being popular at the pizza shop.
My favs are definitely Whirlwind (spinning fan), Funhouse, Terminator, and anything with Pinbot (machine opens up and you make him/her come alive)
Tony
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Pinside's top 10 are:
1) Twilight Zone
2) Medieval Madness
3) Indiana Jones
4) Monster Bask
5) Theater of Magic (I own this one and love it)
6) The Addams Family
7) Attack from Mars
8) Star Trek: TNG
9) Lord of the Rings
10) Cirqus Voltaire
The link is: http://www.pinside.com/opinion.top100.asp
I think that it is "updated" weekly.
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Cirqus Voltaire is kind of odd, with the ball game inside the backglass... I've always thought that is innovative but not too much fun.
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My personal top ten pins..
Funhouse
World Cup 94
Simpsons Party
The Simpsons
Whirlwind
Diner
Comet
High Speed
Indy 500
Any Pitch and Bat game
One down nine to go... :laugh:
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There's a couple I'd want
In order of wanted the most
1) Swords of Fury ( I was really good at this one and it is fun witht he two playfields)
2) Theatre of Magic
3) Rocky and Bulwinkly
4) Whirlwind
5) Fishtales
Then I'd like classics like poker or 8ball. I love the old 60s pins with the mechanical scoring.
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I'll put in another 2 cents on black Knight, love the game.
Here are a few of my favorites:
1. Black Knight
2. Space Shuttle
3. Playboy
4. Whirlwind
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I played The Simpsons Pinball Party yesterday. The playfield looks awesome.
I paid fifty cents to see three balls go straight down the middle between the flippers in 30 seconds total. What a gip. I hate machines that feed that many SDTM.
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I used to play this game at my godfathers arcade when I was little. And I would love to find one for sale. http://marvin3m.com/baseball/basechmp.htm
I found one of those abandoned once. I rented a mini warehouse, and whoever had it before left the game when they moved out. I spent a fair amount of time cleaning the thing up and getting it fully working. Later after the job was over and it was time for me to move, I sold it as I didn't have room to take it with me.