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Main => Lightguns => Topic started by: portwojc on March 10, 2005, 08:43:13 am

Title: Light gun how about a letter writing campaign?
Post by: portwojc on March 10, 2005, 08:43:13 am
I know there is the other thread going on about the lightgun project.
Title: Re: Light gun how about a letter writing campaign?
Post by: ErikRuud on March 10, 2005, 09:10:08 am
Many of us have already written to Act Labs and put our names on the "Wish List".

Many of us have also written to eReal games to encourage them to produce a PC version of the RGT system.

I have also written to the TrackIR people.
Title: Re: Light gun how about a letter writing campaign?
Post by: dmish82 on March 10, 2005, 09:35:11 am
I'm on the Act-Labs wishlist and emailed ereal games.  A letter might not be a bad idea or if we could start a petition and have the arcade community sign it, maybe that'd help a bit because there's NO WAY i'm spending $150-200 for one on Ebay.
Title: Re: Light gun how about a letter writing campaign?
Post by: GGKoul on March 10, 2005, 10:14:45 am
Act-Labs are a bunch of wankers.  If you go to their website, www.actl-labs.com, you still have time to do some Holiday Shopping.
Title: Re: Light gun how about a letter writing campaign?
Post by: dmish82 on March 10, 2005, 11:09:24 am
Well, ereal games just emailed me back (very quick response) and they said there will be a prototype pc light gun at E3 in May. It will work with "any" monitor or TV they said. so we'll have to see how that turns out.
Title: Re: Light gun how about a letter writing campaign?
Post by: GGKoul on March 10, 2005, 11:20:59 am
what's that site?
Title: Re: Light gun how about a letter writing campaign?
Post by: dmish82 on March 10, 2005, 11:32:22 am
what's that site?

www.erealgames.com


Looks like a pretty nice gun. Looks more like a gun than the act-labs one did.
Title: Re: Light gun how about a letter writing campaign?
Post by: Silver on March 10, 2005, 11:33:59 am
Yes the eReal games gun just uses a camera on top of you monitor/screen and has a gun with sensors/reflectors/leds - 1 at the front 1 at the back. Then calcualtes the position.

you can get it for ps2/xbox. Reviews suggest its fine, not quite as accurate as some, and suffers from losing calibration if you change the guns position much (always a problem with just 1 sensor i think).

If you have rear-projection/lcd or whatever its pretty much your only option. The 1 advantage it may have is that the company have suggested that the calculations are all done in the camera-box, which (if true)may solve all this hassle of image processing in drivers done by the home-brew webcam option.

It is quite likely to make it to the pc as its already USB I believe.
Title: Re: Light gun how about a letter writing campaign?
Post by: ErikRuud on March 10, 2005, 11:45:19 am
The eReal gun uses a camera to track a pair infrared leds on the gun.  They must be pulsing one of the leds to send codes to the camera for the trigger pull, calibration and d-pad functions.

A single tracking point would only allow for up/down left/right tracking with no way of calcluating the guns actual aiming point.

Two tracking points allows for calculating the guns actual aiming point, but the calibration can be thrown off by moving the gun away from it's initial starting point.

Three or more points allows for calculating the guns position relative to the camera as well as the aiming point.  This means that calibration should not be affected by changing the position of the gun.
Title: Re: Light gun how about a letter writing campaign?
Post by: Flinkly on March 10, 2005, 12:38:32 pm
andy from ultimarc said he's working on a lightgun himself too, and it sounds like he's pretty far.  as for the ereal gun, it sounds like they need to do some recreation work to make it a bit better.  as for act-lab, i'd have to second the comment about them being wankers.  it seems like a company run by a bunch of backwards gamers, who create product runs for things they want, and sell the leftovers to the public to cover their costs.  they really don't care about the customer, aka they don't care about making another good lightgun.  anyways, the lightgun they have pulses the screen, which i find kind of annoying since we do have other options, like the tracking guns (ereal gun, etc..).