The NEW Build Your Own Arcade Controls
Main => Software Forum => Topic started by: SirPeale on February 06, 2005, 07:02:05 am
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No, I'm not asking about it!
Haze's Dev Pagel (http://haze.mameworld.info/weblog/archives/2005/02/mamedev_wip_31s.html)
Edit: oops, cut the 'L' off of 'HTML'
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Try this link (http://haze.mameworld.info/weblog/archives/2005/02/mamedev_wip_31s.html) instead. ;)
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;D
Excellent news! I have TW2004 (And might pick up TW2005 since it's on sale for 9.99 this week), but those games are really single player IMO. Too complicated for a casual setting.
Edit: And I don't wanna get in this argument again, but I'm one of those XP users that gets nothing but crashes from GT PC.
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Ya I got TW2004 and Tw2005 I use xp and ive never had any problems with GT PC. I thought these games werent coming out? I hope they come out that would be great.
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Shhh...
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Personally, I thought TW99 was a wonderfully arcadey golf game, but you swing the trackball right and left, not back and forth.... :(
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It seems that since the pre-2001 Golden Tee games are no longer for sale, they're now Mameable.
More details on Aaron Giles WIP pages (http://aarongiles.com/weblog/archives/2005/02/february_surpri.html#comments).
Can't wait to see how slow these run!
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That is some excellent, exciting news. This was probably the biggest hurdle to getting them into MAME, and now that they aren't "current" we'll just have to see how they play on modern PCs like JoyMonkey said.
I know some of the GTs were in MAME for a short while, or there were at least some versions out somewhere... does anyone know how they ran? What types of speeds will we need to have some crazy drunken GT2k parties ;)
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It seems to use the same drivers as world class bowling..
If you can run that I bet you can run golf.
I can't wait!!!
(And I own 2 of the real games myself!)
Later,
dabone
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Shuffleshot is an IT game as well isn't it? I believe that came out after some of the GT's so if you can run that I'd think you can run these :) Just speculation though, didn't check what driver shuffleshot uses.
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I don't think I've played any GT games before previous to 2001. Did these earlier ones include the 3D 'follow the ball' fly-bys? I can see those being seriously chuggy.
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The new machines (2k2 and later) introduced the flyby and backspin buttons.
Later,
dabone
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Ya I got TW2004 and Tw2005 I use xp and ive never had any problems with GT PC. I thought these games werent coming out? I hope they come out that would be great.
Out of curiosity, what version of directx are you using? I can never get the thing to load before it crashes XP. After spending some time on google, I came to the conclusion this is fairly common and some have stated any version of directx 8.0 or higher = automatic death. Talking about GT PC.
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I have GT PC running on windows xp with DX 9..so thats not it
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I have GT PC running on windows xp with DX 9..so thats not it
Same here. I think the problem is with Windows 2000.
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omigod!
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anyone else notice that the release version of mame is .91 but they already have the build tools for .92 up for download.
maybe soon, maybe real soon.
Later,
dabone
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Heh, many of us know this is old news ;) The driver has been floating around for a long time.
I'll let you know one thing. It runs like crap on a PIII 500.
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I'm gonna guess I'll have a better shot at it.
p4 2.8 /1 gig ram.
After this comes out I've got to redo my control panel and put the trackball in the center of the panel.
Later,
dabone
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OMG! I can't wait for this to be supported by MAME! And I won't even be able to play it because my 2
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btw, wcbowl runs GREAT on a 2gig. So it hopefully will be playable on many systems out there.
Time to redo my trackball cp.
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Im running the highest version of Direct X that is out. I dont know what the version is but thats what I run.
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OMG!
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If your pc can run world class bowling and shuffleshot it will be able to handle the golden tee's.
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hmmm, so im guessing it will be a while before its out for public distribution correct? well "public distribution"....you know what i mean ::)
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hmmm, so im guessing it will be a while before its out for public distribution correct?
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It's been fully emulated in mame since probably 20-30 versions ago and left out because it was still a money maker for IT. Since IT isn't selling it anymore I assume they now feel it's safe to add to mame. So I'm guessing it will be added in the next release. Not sure why they would create a stir about it otherwise.
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Exactly. It's been out for along time.
shuffleshot just runs on my PIII 500. Frameskips once and awhile. GTG I horrible. But that's on the old driver before the SHA-1 driver change era.
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GTG runs well on a 900mhz machine I have.
I kept updating *my* driver for a while (no, you can't have it, don't ask :) ).. i wonder if it'll still compile in.. hmm.. Oh well I never did get wcbowldx to work, that'll be nice, I guess.
Had to happen sometime. Trust me, after all the hype and wait and worry about gtg in MAME, you're going to get it, play it once or twice, and never really play it again. Especially after playing GT Fore! or TW golf, it's kinda disappointing now, but still fun nonetheless. Hopefully the annoying little bugs in my driver have been fixed.
--NipsMG
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GTG runs well on a 900mhz machine I have.
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Oh well I never did get wcbowldx to work, that'll be nice, I guess.
--NipsMG
It's all in the protection address, toots... ;)
I'm stoked cause I've wanted to update my version of Mame but have been too lazy to update my GTG driver. Its great with the screen flip on on my cocktail cab, but I've gotta play with the thumb flick d/t the lack of room... >:(
I've had a working GT driver for a couple of years and resisted the tempation to rub it in... ;D
Smack
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Justed wanted to answer a question I saw above. I believe if you go to the IT website, you can get a comparison of the cab dimensions amongst the machines. The angles and such. I'm really excited about this one boys. Good news!!!
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Now I'm just curious as to how many people on this board actually have the driver and have had it for "a few years". I knew you guys weren't making trackball panels just to play that crappy PC version IT put out. Boy am I pissed and totally excited at the same time! ;)
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Now I'm just curious as to how many people on this board actually have the driver and have had it for "a few years". I knew you guys weren't making trackball panels just to play that crappy PC version IT put out. Boy am I pissed and totally excited at the same time! ;)
Not me, I'm don't think the GT games are that special. I built my trackball panel for mainly non-golf games. Shuuz is one of my faves while drinking with mates ;D
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Well, I built mine for centipede, bowling games, and marble madness.
AND Golden Tee. But I got really into playing Fore! in the arcade, and coming back to GT2k is like playing halo, then trying to really get into a game of pong right afterwards.. It's still fun tho. I break it out from time to time. :)
--NipsMG
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I play golden tee, TW2004 and TW2005. But Im with Minwah
Shuuz is what I play, but Ive been playing alot of world class bowling lately also some suffleshot.
Rolled a 237 the other night in WCB. Im going to get my 300 game sometime.
But on another note I cant wait for the new GT games to come out.
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But on another note I cant wait for the new GT games to come out.
Sure, I am interested in seeing them too, maybe they'll grow on me! :)
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Now I'm just curious as to how many people on this board actually have the driver and have had it for "a few years".
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except this was NOTORIOUSLY MUCH MUCH HARDER to find than either of those two.
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I love the GTG games. The courses on GT Classic are pretty cool.
Much like other 4 player games, its as much the social & taunting part as it is the game itself. (at least for me) Plus its a great betting game... buck a stroke anyone?
I wish Shuuz had a timer you could disable like you can in the GT dipswitch / setup. That sure makes it easier to run and get a beer...:p
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So how far from the screen should the top of the TB be?
In my experimenting, a foot or more is ideal from the center of the trackball, and 8 inches should be considered the minimum.
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I'm now a happy boy.
(Yes I've already played a quick game..) ;D
Now I just need to make a new skin for a goldentee for mamewah..
Thanks it for discontinuing these games.
But the good part is.. My GTG96 game on location will still make the same money, mame will not affect it's income in the least.
Later,
dabone
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Pause button for Shuuz. Thats about the only game I use a Pause button for constently. After every shot gotta hit pause.
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so I'm confused- is the driver and ROM out for distributuion now? I'm not asking WHERE to get them, just if it's POSSIBLE to get them elsewhere. Anyone know if it's publicly released yet, or, we're still 'waiting' for it...
thanks
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so I'm confused- is the driver and ROM out for distributuion now? I'm not asking WHERE to get them, just if it's POSSIBLE to get them elsewhere. Anyone know if it's publicly released yet, or, we're still 'waiting' for it...
thanks
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From the Mame 0.92 Whatsnew.txt:
New Games / Clones supported or promoted from GAME_NOT_WORKING status:
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Golden Tee 3D Golf [Brian Troha, Aaron Giles]
Golden Tee 97 [Brian Troha, Aaron Giles]
Golden Tee 98 [Brian Troha, Aaron Giles]
Golden Tee 99 [Brian Troha, Aaron Giles]
Golden Tee 2k [Brian Troha, Aaron Giles]
Golden Tee Classic [Brian Troha, Aaron Giles]
So yes, as of today, its available for everyone (so long as you have the roms).
Edit: Oh yeah, you can grab Mame32 0.92 from my Mame32 Archive (http://mame.joymonkey.com/mame32/index.html).
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So how far from the screen should the top of the TB be?
In my experimenting, a foot or more is ideal from the center of the trackball, and 8 inches should be considered the minimum.
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they do...if you press f2 you can get into the GTG menu where you can disable the timer...
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"I wish Shuuz had a timer you could disable like you can in the GT dipswitch / setup. That sure makes it easier to run and get a beer...:p "
Ah, you can't have forgotten "Prepare for the Beer Round" What other game has beer breaks built in?
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they do...if you press f2 you can get into the GTG menu where you can disable the timer...
I knew about diabling the Gt timer, plus I've had mine set with the difficulty cranked up all the way... ;D
Its funny, I forgot about the "pause" feature in MAME. I never put a pause button on the GT cab that I had built... dagnabbit!
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Its funny, I forgot about the "pause" feature in MAME. I never put a pause button on the GT cab that I had built... dagnabbit!
You don't necessarily need a dedicated pause button to enable pause. And you don't need an I-Pac shift key either.
MAME will allow you to assign multiple inputs for a single key.
When assigning pause, press all the start buttons at the same time. Now the game will only pause if all the start buttons are pressed at the same time. For other functions you could do more difficult combinations like pressing one joystick up, one joystick down, second start button at same time.
Now your control panel will look more authentic without having buttons for PAUSE and ESC and so on.
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Its funny, I forgot about the "pause" feature in MAME. I never put a pause button on the GT cab that I had built... dagnabbit!
You don't necessarily need a dedicated pause button to enable pause. And you don't need an I-Pac shift key either.
MAME will allow you to assign multiple inputs for a single key.
When assigning pause, press all the start buttons at the same time. Now the game will only pause if all the start buttons are pressed at the same time. For other functions you could do more difficult combinations like pressing one joystick up, one joystick down, second start button at same time.
Now your control panel will look more authentic without having buttons for PAUSE and ESC and so on.
That's an idea. I wanna get around to rebuilding that cab anyways and dat be a great idea...
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Hi. Coould someone please recommend some good windows/mame trackball sensitivity settings for Golden Tee? Seems like every adjustment I make fixes one quirk but creates another. I am using XP and a 3" Happs Trackball. Thanks
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http://www.tweakxp.com/tweak1084.aspx
Control Panel - Mouse-
Pointer Speed: Fastest
Enhance Precision: Checked
These are the 3 things that I've done with my settings. Have the same set-up and plays fine IMO (No MAME changes). Maybe it's different from the arcade if you're used to it (Don't know), but it plays like I think it should with this.
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Control Panel - Mouse-
Pointer Speed:
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http://www.tweakxp.com/tweak1084.aspx
Control Panel - Mouse-
Pointer Speed:
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You see the way that Chris has his hand on the TB? Is that the way you have your hand whilst playing Golden Tee (I'm assuming Chris is right-handed)? So you put your hand sideways and flick it upwards towards the screen?
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I have my hands on both sides of the ball and use my thumbs to spin the trackball.
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So if I get the 92 rom set all the new golden tees that were just released will be on there right?? just makin sure... And how many of you have it on your cabs now? how is it playing in mame?
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And how many of you have it on your cabs now? how is it playing in mame?
Beautifully.
Now remember, we're still talking about a relatively primitive form of Golden Tee compared to modern versions like Golden Tee Fore. All the versions are essentially the same with different courses, so don't expect Golden Tee 2K to be a lot better than Golden Tee 97.
--Chris
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LoL, trust me, I love all Golden Tees from about 96 and up. My main concern is I am about to order the romset for version 92 for the sole purpose of getting these golden tees, and I need to know for sure they are on there.
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Control Panel - Mouse-
Pointer Speed: Fastest
Enhance Precision: Checked
These are the 3 things that I've done with my settings. Have the same set-up and plays fine IMO (No MAME changes). Maybe it's different from the arcade if you're used to it (Don't know), but it plays like I think it should with this.
Are you using the default XP mouse driver or the Intellimouse driver?
Forgot about this thread. I'm using the default XP driver (And Oscar's mouse hack. My mini-pac interface had too much backspin.)
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the3eyedblindman,
I don't think your questions are appropriate for this forum. Acquiring roms should not be discussed here. However, you can find your answer by looking at the details of the rom set. The answer is listed inside the text file.
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Control Panel - Mouse-
Pointer Speed:
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So now that everyone has had a chance to try Golden Tee. Any favorite Courses? the first 2 courses on 98 are crazy tough, can't think this one made much $$ in the bars :-) Also anyone know how to hook and slice? Can't figure that one out...
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So now that everyone has had a chance to try Golden Tee. Any favorite Courses?
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So now that everyone has had a chance to try Golden Tee. Any favorite Courses? the first 2 courses on 98 are crazy tough, can't think this one made much $$ in the bars :-) Also anyone know how to hook and slice? Can't figure that one out...
actual pic from Happs.....hope you can see the arrows
Anyone got a picture of golden tee control panel that is at least readable?
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So now that everyone has had a chance to try Golden Tee. Any favorite Courses? the first 2 courses on 98 are crazy tough, can't think this one made much $$ in the bars :-) Also anyone know how to hook and slice? Can't figure that one out...
actual pic from Happs.....hope you can see the arrows
Anyone got a picture of golden tee control panel that is at least readable?
You can download a high res JPG version here (http://edeveaud.free.fr/tmp/gtg_control_panel_decals.zip)
-Goz
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Does anyone have a DOS build of Mame 0.92? They don't currently have it on mame.net.
Thanks,
Wade
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Does anyone have a DOS build of Mame 0.92?
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Oh yeah, wasn't there major changes in the .92 compile procedure? It'll probably be a while before a DOS build shows up.
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Bummer! Hope it comes out soon. I don't want to switch to Windows on my Mame cab just for one game. I suppose I could set GameLauncher to start Windows and run GT and go back to DOS GL afterwards. Long launch time but at least it'd be available. ;)
Wade
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Oooh! I just realized that there IS a DOS version of AdvanceMame 0.92 (http://advancemame.sourceforge.net/download.html) that you could use. AdvMame is way better than vanilla Mame anyway (if you've got time to set up all those video modes nice n pretty).
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Awesome! :) I'll have to try it.
Wade
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The versions are there in older mame version link, but you need to change the link to the version you want....
http://www.mame.net/zips/mame067b.zip
Change 067 to 092 (for version 92...for version 93 change to 093..)
http://www.mame.net/zips/mame092b.zip
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The versions are there in older mame version link, but you need to change the link to the version you want....
http://www.mame.net/zips/mame067b.zip
Change 067 to 092 (for version 92...for version 93 change to 093..)
http://www.mame.net/zips/mame092b.zip
Nope. There hasn't been an official DOS build of Mame since 0.91
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Man, Advmame doesn't work with my D9200 out of the box. Bummer! I much prefer doing things the "easy way". (read: I'm lazy).
I select D9200 and no matter what refresh rate, it just gives me "out of range" errors. Guess it's time to start digging.
Wade
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what do you have for a video card man cause the last time i installed a AVGA and a d9200 i got advancemame working great....the reason for advancemame is it gives me perfect resolution all the time...i cant get normal windows commandline mame to give me perfect resolution on all games??
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Can anyone post there GT Mame settings? As I'm getting pissed off that I can hit a 2 Iron 200yards but I can't hit a driver more then 100 yards...
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Using a Happ Golden Tee trackball, with Windows XP's default driver's mouse speed right in the middle and with the regitry tweak to disable accelleration, the default MAME settings work perfectly for me in Golden Tee.
--Chris
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You don't need nearly as much room behind your trackball with Golden Tee as people THINK they do. There is no real distance between a monster glass bashing/hand smacking drive, and simple good firm one. When I had my Golden Tee '99 (In an Atari System I cabinet), my friend Dave did glass bashing drives every time, and I just rolled it nice a firm, and I usually out drove him.
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After poking around on Advmame's website, I was wondering the same thing. I'll have to check my video card (I think it is an ATI). I'm all-DOS, by the way (that is my purpose for trying advmame - to be able to play GT in DOS).
Paige, despite the fact that we don't NEED the space to roll, doesn't mean we don't WANT the space. In theory, a person could play using a thumb spin even if the monitor glass was vertical right above the trackball. But that doesn't mean we'd want to play it that way. :)
We used to play Shuuz fairly often, and we all made long, smooth strokes. It might not net a better effect or more accuracy, but it is more fun. I think it might be because the long stroke resembles the swinging sensation of throwing a horseshoe.
Wade
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I dunno if you missed the thread about having a security device. But if you have a security device behind the trackball like the pic shown, they won't roll the trackball like crazy.
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LMAO. I tried that before, but people just kept complaining.
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LMAO.
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lol i seen that in the other thread and laughed ---my bottom--- off....great pic and yea im having trouble running windows XP and advmame....for some readon my comp keeps freezing but it will work great on a windows 98 machine....damn 98 i want xp as ill have to dig out my copy of 98...im to lazy for that someone figure out how to fix the svgawin file or sumtyhin