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Title: Robotron 2084
Post by: Sparkolicious on May 05, 2004, 03:45:08 pm
I found this in the trash not too far from my house... It's in such good shape that I think I want to restore it.. All the boards are present and "Appeaer" to be in good shape... When I plugged it in the fans are the only thing working... My question is where do i start??!!
Title: Re:Robotron 2084
Post by: Sparkolicious on May 05, 2004, 03:46:16 pm
side view...
Title: Re:Robotron 2084
Post by: GGKoul on May 05, 2004, 03:49:19 pm
You found that in the trash!!   Where do you live?  As there maybe someone in the area that may be able to help you.


-GGKoul
Title: Re:Robotron 2084
Post by: Sparkolicious on May 05, 2004, 03:54:53 pm
I live in Ruston and New Orleans Louisiana... I work as a flight instructor for Louisiana Tech University in Ruston, but the real home is in New Orleans.. A friend of mine suggested a post to this site my give me some ideas...
Title: Re:Robotron 2084
Post by: SirPeale on May 05, 2004, 08:37:45 pm
I'm sorry, this game is obviously too far gone.  However, it's not a total loss, I'll take it off your hands for you.   ;D
Title: Re:Robotron 2084
Post by: RetroJames on May 05, 2004, 09:20:54 pm
First let me say I am SOOOOOOO jealous.  You really really scored HUGE.  Robotron is very sought after in case you did not know.  

I would start by reading alot.  Check out USENET groups as well and just locate a load of info if you are serious about restoring the machine (which you should be, dang what a great find)

Generally I would start by getting a hold of a Robotron manual with the wiring schematics.  Alot depends on your electronics aptitude.  You will need to really bone up if you are not already there.

Figure out what IS working and in good shape,  then prioritize the rest.  Wow you have alot of work ahead, but DANG what a find.  

I too will take it off your hands if you feel overwhelmed ::)

Good luck, can't wait to see how it goes.
Title: Re:Robotron 2084
Post by: Lance on May 05, 2004, 11:05:43 pm
two words:

multi williams

:D
Title: Re:Robotron 2084
Post by: Violineb on May 06, 2004, 01:54:18 am
 :o Is that THE Robotron? OMG, some idiot was throwing that out? I've only played a remake for PC but I loved it, if only I could play it the way it was meant to be played. With 2 sticks. Are they only 8 way sticks?
Title: Re:Robotron 2084
Post by: maraxle on May 06, 2004, 07:24:35 am
two words:

multi williams


Two more words:

restore it

:)
Title: Re:Robotron 2084
Post by: menace on May 06, 2004, 07:43:59 am
these guys are crazy--paint it yellow, put a four player control panel extension on the front--juice it up with some lifters like they have on the low-riding cars, put in a kicking bass and play some console games on that badboy ;D

ummm or you could just restore it i guess....your call ;)

(and yes I am jealous in case you missed that ;D)
Title: Re:Robotron 2084
Post by: hunky_artist on May 06, 2004, 08:53:02 am
what's the diagonal screen size on that thing? I'm curious

thanks :)
Title: Re:Robotron 2084
Post by: SirPeale on May 06, 2004, 09:42:07 am
what's the diagonal screen size on that thing? I'm curious

19"
Title: Re:Robotron 2084
Post by: SirPoonga on May 06, 2004, 12:08:30 pm
Is the monitor working?

The board for sure isn't working?

Klov has some info
http://www.klov.com/game_detail.php?letter=R&game_id=9347
Title: Re:Robotron 2084
Post by: Sparkolicious on May 06, 2004, 01:25:47 pm
not sure... haven't had any time to really check the thing out... Thanks for the link!
Title: Re:Robotron 2084
Post by: pathdoc2 on May 07, 2004, 09:23:39 am
Congrats.  Great find.  You will have an adventure restoring this fine machine. ;)
Title: Re:Robotron 2084
Post by: tbombaci on May 07, 2004, 09:34:04 am
I found this in the trash not too far from my house... It's in such good shape that I think I want to restore it.. All the boards are present and "Appeaer" to be in good shape... When I plugged it in the fans are the only thing working... My question is where do i start??!!

First, check the fuses in the power block.

If the fuses are good, how many LED's are lit on the power board? (The power board is the longer of the two bolted on the inside of the cabinet.

If all thre are lit, look on the ROM board (the smaller board with 15 - 17 eproms), there is a single LED display. It may be flashing a code "1", "4", "3" or smething like that. This code will give you a general idea if something is wrong.

Do you hear the "whining" sound of the monitor on power up? Is there static to the touch on the glass?

Check the "Screen" (brightness) pot on the monitor. BE CAREFUL!!! It is near the flyback transformer. A shock from that puppy will really ruin your day!! Be sure the pot is not turned all the way down.

Hope this helps.

-Tom
Title: Re:Robotron 2084
Post by: Matt, GoC on May 08, 2004, 01:47:26 am
Check the "Screen" (brightness) pot on the monitor. BE CAREFUL!!! It is near the flyback transformer. A shock from that puppy will really ruin your day!! Be sure the pot is not turned all the way down.

Basically, don't touch ANYTHING but those little dials (Pot = potentameter = little dial), or you may end up 6 feet under (seriously)!!!
Title: Re:Robotron 2084
Post by: hunky_artist on May 08, 2004, 06:15:28 am
what's the diagonal screen size on that thing? I'm curious

19"

Thanks :)
Title: Re:Robotron 2084
Post by: instantwater006 on May 20, 2004, 06:57:34 am
If you decide that the restoration is too big a job for you and that you want to sell it instead (probably won't happen, but just in case) I would be willing to buy it off you for a very good amount of money.  Otherwise, good luck.  I'm very jealous of you for finding such a great machine  ;)
Title: Re:Robotron 2084
Post by: Magnet_Eye on May 20, 2004, 08:25:01 am
oh man. in the TRASH? I can't believe it. WTH!?  :o ??? :-X :'(
Title: Re:Robotron 2084
Post by: Sparkolicious on June 23, 2004, 05:43:01 pm
Ok so here's the deal. I replaced 8 fuses, and replaced the power cord.. plug it in and i get 3 led's on the smaller board inside the case to light... the monitor powers up and flashes then goes black... I am a complete n00b, but I don't see any other led's.... My question is where do I go from here? How should I go about reconnecting the battery holder? (there's a picture of it) and what are the batteries for n e way?  Here are some pics of the boards...
Title: Re:Robotron 2084
Post by: Sparkolicious on June 23, 2004, 05:43:30 pm
.......
Title: Re:Robotron 2084
Post by: Sparkolicious on June 23, 2004, 05:44:38 pm
new janky PINK power cord 8^)
Title: Re:Robotron 2084
Post by: Sparkolicious on June 23, 2004, 05:46:13 pm
battery thingy...
Title: Re:Robotron 2084
Post by: Sparkolicious on June 23, 2004, 05:49:14 pm
Thanks for the help so far. I really wanna get this thing runnin again. Anyone with skillz live in the greater New Orleans area?  ;D
Title: Re:Robotron 2084
Post by: tbombaci on June 23, 2004, 06:31:02 pm
Doesnt need the batteries to boot.. Do you see any numbers flashing on the ROM board? There is a single LED display on the board.

-tom
Title: Re:Robotron 2084
Post by: AlanS17 on June 23, 2004, 07:34:30 pm
And it's in good cosmetic condition... Someone was stupid...
Title: Re:Robotron 2084
Post by: Sparkolicious on June 23, 2004, 08:46:38 pm
man I'm tellin ya I looked ALL over that board for a single led and can't find one anywhere! I'm gonna head back to the lab and fire it up again and see..
Title: Re:Robotron 2084
Post by: tbombaci on June 23, 2004, 08:55:29 pm
LED display:

check it out:

(http://www.bombaci.org/tom/images/roboboards2.jpg)
Title: Re:Robotron 2084
Post by: SirPeale on June 23, 2004, 09:01:04 pm
I  bet he was looking for a single LED.  I would have too.
Title: Re:Robotron 2084
Post by: Sparkolicious on June 23, 2004, 09:27:21 pm
damn it... i was just about to post!! lmao! I turned the lights off and figured it out... doh! It does the same thing the monitor does .. comes on for a sec then goes off.. theres a switch toward the top of the cab that needs to be depressed for the boards to get power...  when i press it and hold it the power comes on then goes off...er well the monitor and the led flashes.. might try changing that switch... should be able to bypass it ya think?
Title: Re:Robotron 2084
Post by: tbombaci on June 23, 2004, 09:38:19 pm
Does the power stay on? You should be able to hear the monitor hum.

If all three LED's are lit on the power board and you do not get a flashing number sequence in the LED display, next step is to meter the power at each board. On the big board, the grey wires are +5v. Best bet is to pick up a schematic from the arcade ftp Here (http://arcarc.xmission.com/archive/PDF%20Arcade%20Manuals%20and%20Schematics/Robotron%20-%20Drawing%20Set.pdf)
Title: Re:Robotron 2084
Post by: Sparkolicious on June 23, 2004, 11:59:13 pm
the led's stay on... Now that I have these drawing I'll be able to poke arround a little more... Thanks a lot for the help! I'll post more when i get a chance to check it out!
Title: Re:Robotron 2084
Post by: JoeB on June 24, 2004, 10:24:04 am
Some cabs have safety switches that detect if the back is open, and kill the power.  Tape down all these switches when working on the cab.  But be very careful with what you touch.  

If you don't know what you're doing, try to find someone local to you that can help you.

Title: Re:Robotron 2084
Post by: tbombaci on June 24, 2004, 10:30:56 am
Some cabs have safety switches that detect if the back is open, and kill the power.  Tape down all these switches...


No.

Pull the spring loaded pin out. No need to tape them down.
Title: Re:Robotron 2084
Post by: Sparkolicious on June 24, 2004, 08:29:07 pm
Ok.... the boards have power, and the monitor is staying powered up as well.. no led light.... It comes on for a second just like the monitor....
Title: Re:Robotron 2084
Post by: Floyd10 on June 30, 2004, 10:00:39 pm
screw you!
Title: Re:Robotron 2084
Post by: SirPeale on June 30, 2004, 10:18:10 pm
screw you!

What the heck is that all about?
Title: Re:Robotron 2084
Post by: Zeitgeist on July 01, 2004, 10:06:40 am
Great find Sparkolicious.
I found a PacMan cocktail that had been put to the street once over in Belle Chasse.
All I had to do was replace the power cord & send the board off for overhaul.
I'd suggest that you find someone who can go through the boardset for you & replacewhatever components that he finds bad.
This could run you about $100 - $150 but with the overall value of a Robotron machine, this is a small price to pay to get the thing working again.
My other suggestions is that you check back frequently at the place where you found your machine in the garbage, there may be more to follow...
BTW I live over in Thibodaux & work in New Orleans so if you ever need a little help or advice just drop me a line.
Take care
Z
Title: Re:Robotron 2084
Post by: pathdoc2 on July 01, 2004, 11:32:56 am
Doesn't Bob Roberts live in your neck of the woods?  He may be able to help.
Title: Re:Robotron 2084
Post by: Sparkolicious on July 01, 2004, 02:15:47 pm
hhhmmm... I'm all for sending it off... Can you recommend anyone?
Title: Re:Robotron 2084
Post by: Floyd10 on July 01, 2004, 05:36:17 pm
screw you!

What the heck is that all about?

Im consumed with jealousy
Title: Re:Robotron 2084
Post by: SirPeale on July 01, 2004, 06:24:36 pm
screw you!

What the heck is that all about?

Im consumed with jealousy

There are much better ways of expressing it.
Title: Re:Robotron 2084
Post by: Floyd10 on July 01, 2004, 09:00:01 pm
to you, maybe ;D
Title: Re:Robotron 2084
Post by: Zeitgeist on July 02, 2004, 01:30:20 pm
hhhmmm... I'm all for sending it off... Can you recommend anyone?

You can speak with Greg over at GS1:
http://www.gls1electronics.com
He's a stand-up guy & did a great job on my Pac PCB.
I don't know if he specializes in this pcb but if not he may know someone who does.

Also there is one place in California that, if I recall correctly, services many boards including Robotron pcb repairs & swaps:
 http://www.eldoradogames.com/

There is also Mike at :
http://www.mikesarcade.com

And yes Bob Roberts does live very close by.
He is a great guy to do business.
Though he no longer does any repairs himself, he is a great source for advice.

Are you in Rustin or NO for the summer?
Title: Re:Robotron 2084
Post by: Sparkolicious on July 03, 2004, 10:06:40 am
I'm in new orleans for g00d! Landed a job at Lakefront airport.  I actually live in Kenner.
Title: Re:Robotron 2084
Post by: Floyd10 on July 03, 2004, 12:14:53 pm
great