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Title: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: jabsder on October 17, 2016, 01:36:55 pm
I am just building a arcade cabinet. The housing is inspired by "Artifact".

I'm trying to post my progress here.
The most Pictures comes from my site www.retro-emulation.com (http://www.retro-emulation.com)


Today I painted the cab.

(https://retro-emulation.com/images/arcade/cabinet/arcade-cabinet-built-14.jpg)
Title: Re: All in one cabinet with fridge
Post by: Unstupid on October 17, 2016, 01:51:02 pm
Are you sure it's big enough?   ???
Title: Re: All in one cabinet with fridge
Post by: BadMouth on October 17, 2016, 02:07:34 pm
The shape looks cool.

"All in One" scared me.  I was expecting to see a giant control panel with steering wheels, flight sticks, and mounted guns.
Title: Re: All in one cabinet with fridge
Post by: vwalbridge on October 17, 2016, 02:13:01 pm
Sorta looks like the love-child of a Taito and Midway cab.  :cheers:
Title: Re: All in one cabinet with fridge
Post by: monkeybomb on October 17, 2016, 07:06:42 pm
Are you sure it's big enough?   ???
Kind of a negative tone there.  My only cabinet is 36" deep.  It's an actual arcade cabinet with an arcade monitor.  This is an off beat design, but I think it's fun.

Title: Re: All in one cabinet with fridge
Post by: jabsder on October 18, 2016, 06:24:05 am
in advance, sorry for my bad English  :).

The control panel becomes 2 Joysticks, 3" Trackball, 6 Buttons each player, volume poti and some buttons for the options (save and load etc.)

The monitor is an 21,3" 4:3 PC screen.
Title: Re: All in one cabinet with fridge
Post by: yamatetsu on October 18, 2016, 12:43:43 pm
The control panel becomes 2 Joysticks, 3" Trackball, 6 Buttons each player, volume poti and some buttons for the options (save and load etc.)

You can use a wireless keyboard for the volume control and the options. Putting that many buttons on the CP will make it look cluttered. Also I guarantee you that somebody will randomly press those buttons and mess up your settings.
Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: jabsder on October 19, 2016, 03:17:20 pm
Today with loudspeakers

(https://retro-emulation.com/images/Arcade/cabinet/arcade-cabinet-built-forum.JPG)
Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: Ian on October 19, 2016, 03:36:38 pm
So where does the fridge fit in this whole thing??? Nobody else is curious?
Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: jabsder on October 19, 2016, 03:38:34 pm
here

(https://retro-emulation.com/images/arcade/cabinet/arcade-cabinet-built-19.jpg)
(https://retro-emulation.com/images/arcade/cabinet/arcade-cabinet-built-18.jpg)
Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: GSXRMovistar on October 19, 2016, 04:13:49 pm
Yes it's on the large size however I like the shape/style, but....seeing the fridge in it I think it's great. What a fantastic addition to a games room/den.
Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: pbj on October 19, 2016, 05:00:15 pm
$5 on this being both a terrible arcade cabinet and terrible refrigerator storage.
Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: vwalbridge on October 19, 2016, 05:02:31 pm
$5 on this being both a terrible arcade cabinet and terrible refrigerator storage.

$5 cash?  ....or $5 Outback Steakhouse gift card?
Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: thomas_surles on October 19, 2016, 05:06:52 pm
$5 on this being both a terrible arcade cabinet and terrible refrigerator storage.
I'll take that wager.
Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: stigzler on October 19, 2016, 05:56:23 pm
Hmmm...

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15144043/site%20posts/byoac/arcade-cabinet-built-14.png)

A<B ?

Mind you

"Fridge in a cab" > "Pi in anything vaguely box shaped"
Mad genius. Beer...games.
Is there gonna be a toaster for pop-tarts?
Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: stigzler on October 19, 2016, 05:57:38 pm
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Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: jabsder on October 19, 2016, 06:26:53 pm
@ stigzler

Yesterday we carried the cabinet into the apartment and yes it was scarce  :P, in germany the garages also have a great gate.

@GSXRMovistar

We have no extra space and we need the fridge. With it we have a pokertable, this is also our dining table. So also functional as the cabinet.

@ pbj

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/0f/74/3e/0f743ed4088a9694687e52b8ce55ffe2.jpg)
Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: jabsder on October 23, 2016, 02:00:47 pm
now with Marquee glas

(https://retro-emulation.com/images/arcade/cabinet/arcade-cabinet-built-23.jpg)
(https://retro-emulation.com/images/arcade/cabinet/arcade-cabinet-built-21.jpg)
Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: jabsder on October 24, 2016, 07:33:12 am
I think now which artwork I take. Actually I wanted to take the artifact.

But now I'm thinking about something own ???
Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: jabsder on December 13, 2016, 07:24:55 am
The most Buttons are on the top of the control panel. Upper left is on and off, the 6 in the middle are menu buttons, to the left and right is player 1 and 2,right is the volume, In the middle is the trackball.

Mario and donkey kong are on the front of the control panel,left and right are the coin buttons.

I have decided on the menu buttons, what do you think about the rest? :)

(https://retro-emulation.com/images/Arcade/artwork/donkey-kong-arcade-control-panel.jpg)
Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: pbj on December 13, 2016, 09:34:24 am
Too many menu buttons.  Put the power button and volume control elsewhere.

Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: Mike A on December 13, 2016, 09:49:00 am
Put them behind the milk or next to the eggs.
Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: burn_654 on December 13, 2016, 09:54:03 am
If the fridge works for you, go for it! I like it. Should be good fun with friends over. Are you going to leave the fridge front as-is or paint it with your scheme?

That is a lot of menu buttons, have you considered shifted/function keys or maybe some hidden buttons? I think too many could be confusing for guests.
Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: yotsuya on December 13, 2016, 11:18:10 am
Put them behind the milk or next to the eggs.
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161213/a29c8c63091992252a597b4a306ae9af.jpg)
Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: jabsder on December 13, 2016, 11:50:30 am
I forgot that I have your eggs in my refrigerator, do you want them again?
Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: jabsder on December 13, 2016, 11:59:05 am
@pbj @burn654

I leave the fridge front as-is.

Is the back from the cabinet a good position for the Power Button?

The menu buttons are: Pause,tap, reset, exit, save, load.

Ok save and load i can make with a shift funktion. Player1 + Joystick1 up for load and Player 1 + Joystick1 down for save ?
Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: stigzler on December 13, 2016, 01:34:45 pm
Quote from: Mike A flink=topic=151974.msg1597599#msg1597599 date=1481640540
Put them behind the milk or next to the eggs.
:laugh2:
Classic.
Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: jabsder on December 13, 2016, 02:07:27 pm
@stigzler

What do you think about the menu buttons?

Is your cabinet already finished? I see in your cabinet from your website over 15 extra buttons  :dizzy:

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15144043/mame/Progress%20Pics/Rsz00003.png)

Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: pbj on December 13, 2016, 02:27:16 pm
Whoever made that Mango Cade thing is bad and should feel bad.
Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: jabsder on December 13, 2016, 02:53:01 pm
@pbj

With your contribution, the contribution always remains high. Thanks for that
Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: Nephasth on December 13, 2016, 03:19:23 pm
@pbj

With your contribution, the contribution always remains high. Thanks for that

With your high, the high always remains contributions?
Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: pbj on December 13, 2016, 03:37:01 pm
He made slightly more sense before he edited that.

Anyway, on topic, I think using any kind of Joystick 1 + one additional button as a shifted input is a bad idea.  I also think there are very few arcade games that actually need a Save/Load function.

Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: stigzler on December 13, 2016, 04:10:22 pm
What do you think about the menu buttons?

Is your cabinet already finished? I see in your cabinet from your website over 15 extra buttons  :dizzy:

lol. Oh dear. Here we go again...

No problems with your layout at all fella. Your cab - you lay it out how you want to - I'm not gonna join some others and get all precious about things. One of the most fantastic/original/bonkers cab concepts I've seen - I was laughing at the cross over of concepts in that gag. It made me laugh, so thought I'd show my appreciation.
Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: wp34 on December 13, 2016, 07:03:09 pm
I'm not gonna join some others and get all precious about things.

This made me laugh out loud.  :cheers:
Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: yotsuya on December 13, 2016, 07:16:01 pm
Clearly wp34 hates us all. ;-)
Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: wp34 on December 13, 2016, 08:17:34 pm
No hater but that really did make me laugh. :)
Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: jabsder on December 14, 2016, 05:49:28 am
I forgot what I wanted to do with the menu buttons, It is long ago  :D

rotary-switch with a button inside for shift.

Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: jabsder on December 14, 2016, 01:31:17 pm
 :) the original is in 300 dpi and more sharp
Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: pbj on December 14, 2016, 01:46:46 pm
Your joystick is too close to your buttons.
Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: Nephasth on December 14, 2016, 02:10:04 pm
Your joystick is too close to your buttons.

Stupid trackball...
Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: jabsder on December 14, 2016, 02:50:07 pm
We have tried some distances.

Vewlix and some Astro City cabinets have similar distances. This distance was the best for us.
Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: jbl77 on December 15, 2016, 12:14:42 am
Not sure if the fridge is closed off from the arcade components or if the backside is open or not....but considering refrigeration is the family business, I will say this:

The compressor on a fridge gets quite warm even with proper ventilation (it will burn your hand) and without a way to dissipate heat from the coils they too will get quite warm.  From what I am seeing there this is a bad idea because the coil won't be able to dissipate the heat thus preventing the phase change causing the fridge to run excessively if not continually (because it can't cool effectively) eventually burning out the compressor.  This can (and has) led to fires too....even when not enclosed in a wooden box.  I would be especially wary of a bar fridge as they are generally cheap and would not have any thermal protections.

Then of course there is the consideration of the heat to the PC.

If a fridge is a must, I would suggest leaving that back side completely open or allow for some pretty damn good ventilation.

Just my 2¢ but totally your call.



Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: jabsder on December 15, 2016, 03:15:35 am
Behind the fridge it is open and the fridge has its cool ribs also on the back.

The back side does not remain open. A hole grid is still installed - Safe to touch.
Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: pbj on December 15, 2016, 09:56:46 am
Dude, you better get liquid cooling and a sprinkler installed in that ---smurf--- stat or your house is gonna burn down.

Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: jabsder on December 15, 2016, 11:48:25 am
@pbj

To your projects I make myself more worried :laugh2:

This is yours right?

(https://i.sli.mg/XPfUxD.jpg)
Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: Mike A on December 15, 2016, 11:50:37 am
You are pretty snide considering you are trying to stuff a refrigerator in a wooden box.
Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: acvieluf on December 15, 2016, 11:56:39 am
@pbj

To your projects I make myself more worried :laugh2:

This is yours right?

(https://i.sli.mg/XPfUxD.jpg)

Don't mock modern art. 
Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: jabsder on December 15, 2016, 12:06:05 pm
@Mike A

Its not a box , it is open on the backside. This is a built-in refrigerator, no problem.

@acvieluf

 ;D yes, it can be customized with different colors of Insulating tape
Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: acvieluf on December 15, 2016, 12:24:34 pm

@acvieluf

 ;D yes, it can be customized with different colors of Insulating tape

Let's be clear: This is my favorite case for a raspberry pi i've seen yet.  No joke.  Sure beats paying for cases that do the exact same job, and look like every other generic device out there.
Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: jabsder on December 15, 2016, 12:32:14 pm
Yes, with cardboard you can do a lot, absolut.
Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: sealcouch on December 15, 2016, 12:50:18 pm
I love that rotary button idea. That's an awesome way of getting more functionality from the top of a control panel vs adding 5 extra buttons. Keep it up!
Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: Mike A on December 15, 2016, 01:15:29 pm
A good number of admin buttons is 0.
Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: acvieluf on December 15, 2016, 01:23:01 pm


I know i'm not a seasoned vet around here, like some others, but even though i tend to agree with you (and built my cab without any,) I am regretting some basics.  We have people over at least once a week, and it's a learning curve just to get people to play it.  Once a game is going, it's all good.  But if i'm not there "leading the charge," people don't tend to play more than one game.  That is, unless they've been over a lot, then they get the hang of things.

I'm just saying that there's certainly a case for both. 
Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: Mike A on December 15, 2016, 01:28:03 pm
That is why 0 is a good number. Admin buttons cause problems.
Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: pbj on December 15, 2016, 01:34:52 pm
Oh look, it's the rare German without a sense of humor.

:lol
Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: Mike A on December 15, 2016, 01:38:59 pm
Glad you said it first.
Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: yotsuya on December 15, 2016, 03:38:04 pm
Oh look, it's the rare German without a sense of humor.


Patton Oswalt does a great bit on his trip to Germany. Reminds me of this.
Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: pbj on December 15, 2016, 03:41:03 pm
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wuo8WK5U_YU#)
Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: yotsuya on December 15, 2016, 04:42:20 pm
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wuo8WK5U_YU#)
Yep. Exactly. :cheers:
Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: jabsder on December 15, 2016, 04:51:14 pm
Der Thread hat in den letzten 3 Tagen an über 600 Klicks zugelegt. Auf Grund dessen werde ich euch natürlich weiter auf dem laufenden halten. Ihr wollt doch auch lieber die neusten Bilder sehen. Die werdet Ihr weiterhin bekommen :) Freundliche Grüße
Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: pbj on December 15, 2016, 04:56:51 pm

(https://i.sli.mg/Ox3GkB.png)

¡ Es ist Zeit für Rache !

Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: yotsuya on December 15, 2016, 05:06:11 pm
Du hast!
Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: DaredevilDave on December 28, 2016, 01:51:01 am
Putting a fridge in a cabinet is not an unheard of task.  8)

My parents have a small fridge in their bar. I don't see any way for heat to escape other than around the fridge itself and back out the front. Could be wrong. It's been there for decades without issue.

What about full size refrigerators that are tucked into a tight pocket in a kitchen? Pretty simple matter.
Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: jbl77 on December 28, 2016, 02:18:28 am

The reason for my questioning is this doesn't looked "tucked in"...this looks closed in. 

(https://retro-emulation.com/images/arcade/cabinet/arcade-cabinet-built-19.jpg)
(https://retro-emulation.com/images/arcade/cabinet/arcade-cabinet-built-18.jpg)
Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: jabsder on January 01, 2017, 11:33:10 am
That is an "Built-in refrigerator". Such refrigerators dissipate the heat on the back. And the cabinet is open on the back and there is a grid in front of it.

I just have no photo from the back. For example:

(http://www.schema.at/nawi/kuehlschrank/kuehl_hinten_375br_mit_text.jpg)
Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: pbj on January 01, 2017, 09:50:08 pm
Your fridge will be fine.
Title: Re: My Cabinet with fridge
Post by: jbl77 on January 03, 2017, 12:12:34 am
after he pointed out the cab is open in the back....I agree. 

For me it is about consideration...not criticism as I only called it into question because of certain unknowns (quite evident in my first post on the matter).