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Whoever invented the cheesesteak should have used pepperjack. Why do you think they used such basic cheeses? And what's up with cheesewiz?
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why did they only use 1 cheese when 2 or 3 cheeses could have been an option?
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Whoever invented the cheesesteak should have used pepperjack.
Agreed. Pepperjack should always be the go-to sandwich cheese.
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Bread just gets in the way of meat, who the hell has time for sandwiches?
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Most helpful restaurant review I've ever read:
"cheesteaks are made with hotdog buns"
That's all it said, and all you needed to know.
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Bread just gets in the way of meat, who the hell has time for sandwiches?
:cheers:
Most helpful restaurant review I've ever read:
"cheesteaks are made with hotdog buns"
That's all it said, and all you needed to know.
:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:
The place I go to has the best cheesesteak I've had in Phoenix. But I get white American instead of Cheese Whiz.
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A NJ. roach coach is the place to go for some awesome Dance, Dance delicious.
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But I get white American instead of Cheese Whiz.
Racist.
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But I get white American instead of Cheese Whiz.
Racist.
They don't sell taco blend, unfortunately.
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In Buffalo we have Jim's Steak Out...and they make a great sandwich. They are also one of the few restaurants that you can visit where the food you get actually looks the the photos on the menu.
http://www.jimssteakout.com/jims-steakout/menu-2/#prettyPhoto (http://www.jimssteakout.com/jims-steakout/menu-2/#prettyPhoto)
PBJ the bread is there to help hold all the meat together of course.
Dammit, now I'm hungry.
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Cheese selection is a huge deal to a sandwich, I agree that pepperjack should be the king on the cheesesteak. It just makes sense. 8) The place by me uses white american as well. what a blah cheese.
Provolone is also a great sandwich cheese. I usually have it on a turkey sandwich. Swiss would go well on a cheesesteak, but would that turn it into a steak and swiss sandwich? My other favorites for a sandwich are smoked cheddar, muenster and mozzarella. Mozzarella is a perfect universal cheese, but anyone who hasn't had real fresh mozzarella is missing out.
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i will start a new subject thread since this one isn't going well
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I think the primary flavor of a cheesesteak should be savory.
Using pepperjack or Mexican blend would cover up the savory flavor with heat.
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Provolone or white cheddar.
American cheese is awful and so is cheesewiz.
Perfect snack is a few slices of deli meat (pastrami or ham usually) wrapped in cojack slices. Meat roll ups.
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I think the primary flavor of a cheesesteak should be savory.
Using pepperjack or Mexican blend would cover up the savory flavor with heat.
I know, right?.... And that cheese whiz thing is just gross, Ive only seen it in Southern Tx, and Jennifer just refused to eat it.
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I think the primary flavor of a cheesesteak should be savory.
Using pepperjack or Mexican blend would cover up the savory flavor with heat.
I know, right?.... And that cheese whiz thing is just gross, Ive only seen it in Southern Tx, and Jennifer just refused to eat it.
Yeah, I tried it once instead of the white American... went back to white American the next week.
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We haven't even got into cheese to steak ratios. >:D
I think the primary flavor of a cheesesteak should be savory.
Using pepperjack or Mexican blend would cover up the savory flavor with heat.
I get that notion, although most pepperjacks are pretty mild. I'd say Provolone would be a safe step up.
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Provolone or white cheddar.
American cheese is awful and so is cheesewiz.
Perfect snack is a few slices of deli meat (pastrami or ham usually) wrapped in cojack slices. Meat roll ups.
I can't eat American anymore unless it is melted beyond recognition.
Cheesewiz is only good for a cameo in the Blues Brother's movie. Otherwise it serves no purpose.
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Cheese makes me ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- my brains out. It's almost humorous in a masochistic way. Oddly, Little Caesar's doesn't screw me up too bad. I guess it's that fake cheese they use but whatever.
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I was born in NY, attended High School in NJ so although I was never from Philly per se, I was close, and the sandwiches I knew were usually served with provolone. Anyway, I just wanted to derail the thread a bit with a story that was relayed to me back when I was a kid. It seems that the original Restaurant ( maybe a hot dog stand I dunno) that created the Cheesesteak sold them pretty cheap. Cheap enough that a rumor began claiming that the meat was actually from a horse. The owners offered a multi-thousand dollar prize to anyone who could prove that the meat in question was anything but beef. It worked, they sold more product from people trying discredit the sandwich and never had to pay the prize. So, good move on their part. The better move was the fact that the owners started the rumor in the first place. Don't know if it's true, but it makes for a good story.
Regards,
Scam
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And what's up with cheesewiz?
There are very minimal exceptions where I am willing to consume cheesewiz in any form, and it's pretty much never on any form of meat based sandwich.
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Didn't American cheese start off as being a blend of cheeses from the "heels" left over after the wheels were cut up?
Melt'em together, blend a bit and voila!
Nonetheless, I'm often hard pressed to consider American Cheese actual cheese as it's the only cheese that seems to "bake" into a bread-like consistency. I'm talking about the famous brand, the knock offs are even more curious.
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american cheese has plastic wrapper on the outside. This is why it's called american cheese? but why is it yellow/orange? why does it use a wrapper?
-vanwatson
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I had a conversation recently with a pretty hefty girl who was complaining about the meat-to-bread ratio at Jimmy John's.
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american cheese has plastic wrapper on the outside. This is why it's called american cheese? but why is it yellow/orange? why does it use a wrapper?
-vanwatson
Even got the factoid. :cheers:
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Forgive my cheesy ignorance, but wth is American Cheese? Is that a brand? I generally just get cheddar if I buy from the grocery store but there's a dairy farm near me that makes all my other selections in house. The raclette is a little fattier than I'd like but everything else is top notch.
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It depends on the time period. For a time, during WWII I believe, there were cheese rations and a law was passed forcing Americans to eat American Cheese. I believe it was primarily a mix of scrap cheese consisting of Chedder, Colby and others. It was generally white. That cheese is just a little bit different than the "cheese" that's marked as American "Cheese" now.
The best known brand is Kraft American which isn't legally defined as "cheese" but rather processed cheese or some such. The yellowness probably a holdover from the days when chedder was still a primary ingredient and they started adding that silly yellow dye.
Kraft American cheese is somewhere near Cheez Whiz (also a Kraft product) and Velveeta (also Kraft also American) in terms of texture and color. It usually comes in packaged individual slices making it a favorite with harried mothers packing kids lunches. Cheaper varieties aren't pre-packeged, usually found in restaurants where the extra packaging is a time waster.
It's smoothness can only best described as something similar to Havarti I guess. It melts very easily and under the right circumstances can bake into a sort of bread-like substance. It doesn't really "crisp" like chedder so it's a favorite when creating Mac&Cheese, cheese pies, or nacho cheese from scratch.
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Why is white cheddar so hard to find?
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Man, people can hate on Kraft American Cheese all they want, nothing makes better grilled cheeses or microwave nachos, and I've had a -lot- of damned cheese in my life. Useless for anything else, though, and it makes me gag at room temperature. Other brands don't melt very well, though. Need more chemicals or something.
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Why is white cheddar so hard to find?
Good question because it's so damn good.
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Why is white cheddar so hard to find?
Eric where are you at? Around here I can walk into any grocery store and find a selection of white cheddars....
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Why is white cheddar so hard to find?
Eric where are you at? Around here I can walk into any grocery store and find a selection of white cheddars....
South of South Canada.
I have a small grocery store. Its in a block right? I'd be willing to cut it up. Maybe I'll have to wait until I go to the city and look again.
I want to make some poutine.
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That the color of cheddar is just coloring, and white cheddar is just cheddar, uncolored.
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Why is white cheddar so hard to find?
Eric where are you at? Around here I can walk into any grocery store and find a selection of white cheddars....
South of South Canada.
I have a small grocery store. Its in a block right? I'd be willing to cut it up. Maybe I'll have to wait until I go to the city and look again.
I want to make some poutine.
From cheesesteak to poutine...honestly those would go great together. But seriously, poutine with cheddar? I thought they run you out of Canada if you used anything other than proper cheese curds? ;)
Yes all the white cheddar around here is in a block. Cheddar slices are tougher to find.
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Why is white cheddar so hard to find?
Eric where are you at? Around here I can walk into any grocery store and find a selection of white cheddars....
South of South Canada.
I have a small grocery store. Its in a block right? I'd be willing to cut it up. Maybe I'll have to wait until I go to the city and look again.
I want to make some poutine.
From cheesesteak to poutine...honestly those would go great together. But seriously, poutine with cheddar? I thought they run you out of Canada if you used anything other than proper cheese curds? ;)
Yes all the white cheddar around here is in a block. Cheddar slices are tougher to find.
Well, I don't even know where to look for cheese curds. I recall white cheddar being more mild, but I don't profess to be a cheese connoisseur.
I'd prefer to be authenticate as possible, but I'm probably going to use frozen french fries and gravy from a jar.
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I had poutine with foie gras once. Probably a top 10 lifetime meal, it was nuts.
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Pats.
cheeze Wit.
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Poutine sounded good on the surface, until I saw a picture of it.
WTF, I'm all for cultural foods but why do Canadians keep coming up with dishes that look like vomit? Better than Casu marz, but really? C'mon....
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Arbys has a cheesesteak that's not too bad as far as commercially replicated go. ::)
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Arbys has a cheesesteak that's not too bad as far as commercially replicated go. ::)
I worked at an Arby's for two days. I quit when I realized their day old meat that didn't sell was mixed into the meat the following day. Watch the color of the meat, if you get slices that are different colors of each other, that's your tip off. The other is if they drown the damn thing in sauce. :puke
Never could decide which was worse. Arby carrying over their meat. Taco Bell's old Steak that was actually formulated to taste more like steak the older it got.
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I worked at an Arby's for two days. I quit when I realized their day old meat that didn't sell was mixed into the meat the following day. Watch the color of the meat, if you get slices that are different colors of each other, that's your tip off. The other is if they drown the damn thing in sauce. :puke
Cool story and all, but was it actually unsafe?
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Pats.
cheeze Wit.
Gross. Jim's on South Street, provolone.
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I worked at an Arby's for two days. I quit when I realized their day old meat that didn't sell was mixed into the meat the following day. Watch the color of the meat, if you get slices that are different colors of each other, that's your tip off. The other is if they drown the damn thing in sauce. :puke
Cool story and all, but was it actually unsafe?
It can be.
When food is "carried over", the basic rule of thumb is that it should be the first food to be served. Sometimes, this isn't possible due to the nature of the food since the texture or flavor might change due to the age or refrigeration or both. So a lot of fast food joints will blend the old food with a fresh batch to mask the changes. Homogeneous mixtures like ground beef (not patties) or pancake batter are great candidates for this for obvious reasons.
What's supposed to happen is that the food handler is supposed to ensure that that "blended" batch is to be used completely up and not blended into the next batch. The Arby's I was at didn't do this. Each batch was blended into the next throughout the day. When a particular batch was deemed "too old" it was sauced to mask the age. Then this was further blended into each succeeding sauced batch.
It should be obvious by now that if any batch at any time was tainted, then every succeeding batch afterwards becomes tainted.
Most restaurants that handle homogeneous mixtures have clear cut policies in place to prevent blending old with new except for the very first batch. If Arby's had any sort of policy like that, it wasn't followed through by management or staff at the one I worked at.