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Title: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: ron310 on June 05, 2012, 09:10:44 am
I found a touchscreen kiosk on eBay and bought it with the hopes of doing either a mega touch or jukebox. After much debate (and realizing a mega touch emulated does not exist) I have decided to go with a trackball based bartop instead. (http://img.tapatalk.com/c6e4e1eb-0336-91fc.jpg) this is the hardware. After opening it up, you can see it uses a mini-itx intel board.(http://img.tapatalk.com/c6e4e1eb-0397-b320.jpg). The monitor even has a row of LEDs at the top. (http://img.tapatalk.com/c6e4e1eb-0406-fb74.jpg) . Once I got the onboard lvsd enabled for the monitor (which required a utility to download the bios off the machine and change it before reuploading it, I installed windows and mame and made sure the 1.6 ghz processor could handle it. It actually runs fine. I received my optipac and golden tee trackball in the mail, and now it's on to the cabinet design.
Title: Re: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: rooter on June 05, 2012, 10:28:30 am
So you are just using the touchscreen as a regular monitor?
You should make one of the cool antique radio juke box dealies or something.
Title: Re: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: drventure on June 05, 2012, 11:24:09 am
You should make one of the cool antique radio juke box dealies or something.

+1  ;)
Title: Re: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: BadMouth on June 05, 2012, 11:32:24 am
The Touchmaster series of touchscreen games works in MAME, but 1.6Ghz probably isn't going to cut it.
It doesn't hurt to give it a try.  Not worth dedicating a machine for, but would be a cool addition to your gamelist since you have a touchscreen.
Title: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: ron310 on September 21, 2012, 05:39:32 pm
I decided to scratch the trackball idea and instead i'm going with a six button/ joystick layout.
I've made some progress on the cabinet build.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/22/eguseju8.jpg)
I clamped the 2 sides together and sanded to get them even.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/22/tu2eqypu.jpg)
Then I did some bracing.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/22/avazabe4.jpg)
Started cutting for the control panel.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/22/mygu2y7y.jpg)
Rough cut the back.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/22/yby5eneg.jpg)
Then sanded till they lined up nice.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/22/me2ytu9u.jpg)
Rough fit the bezel.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/22/dyne5ade.jpg)
Here is where it currently stands.
Title: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: ron310 on September 21, 2012, 06:13:55 pm
I still have to:
Create the speaker panel.
Make some kind of access panel for the back.
Route out the t-molding slots
Create some kind of ventilation.
I'll need to sand everything more to get it perfect.
Then I plan on taking the whole thing apart, glue and screw everything, and wood fill anything thats not perfect.
Then i'll start the plexi work.
I was planning on wrapping the whole thing in self adhesive vinyl, rather than paint, but that's a long ways away.
Title: Re: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: CoryBee on September 21, 2012, 06:22:26 pm
This is looking pretty nice  :cheers: Going to revamp my bartop design with mdf so i can use tmolding. Good luck.
Title: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: ron310 on September 24, 2012, 05:14:33 pm
I made some progress on the marquee
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/25/2ehery6u.jpg)
I routed out a channel on the top and bottom, so the plexi rails would sit flush
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/25/e2asy3e5.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/25/amazegyd.jpg)
Title: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: ron310 on October 02, 2012, 06:44:45 pm
Cut slot for t-molding - this was way easier than I thought it would be.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/10/03/ratudevu.jpg)
Title: Re: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: sharpfork on October 08, 2012, 06:41:00 pm
I like the classic lines combined with a functional bartop form factor.
:cheers:

I think you pretty much have to find a use for the touchscreen or we will all be let down.
Title: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: ron310 on October 08, 2012, 07:53:57 pm
I am going to keep the touchscreen in there and add jukebox functionality to the bartop. This way the touchscreen is not a total waste. I started disassembling the speakers for under the marquee area. I'll post some more pics when I get a little further along.
Title: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: ron310 on October 09, 2012, 06:51:02 pm
Cut holes for the speakers and made the grills.
Title: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: ron310 on October 11, 2012, 07:28:04 pm
Started on the cp
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/10/12/epezu2as.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/10/17/zavu4u6e.jpg)
Title: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: ron310 on October 17, 2012, 06:31:18 pm
More progress



Title: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: ron310 on October 21, 2012, 03:50:40 pm

Oops - probably should have checked the placement of the coin button. Going to have to redo that panel
Title: Re: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: sharpfork on October 21, 2012, 09:02:08 pm
Looking great!

I have a few questions:

Title: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: ron310 on October 22, 2012, 10:17:04 am
Thanks.
The white case came with the system. It was a kiosk system I got on eBay. You could get something similar at logicsupply.com.
The plexi is inset, I still have to drill the holes.
The coin button is from groovygamegear.com (search for nova gem)
Title: Re: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: Drnick on April 30, 2013, 03:56:17 pm
Did you ever get this one finished up?
Title: Re: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: DeathDealer on May 13, 2013, 10:46:53 pm
Did you finished it?? ???
Title: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: ron310 on June 26, 2013, 07:57:41 pm
I did not finish it yet but have done some more work. I've been waiting to get more done before posting pics...
Title: Re: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: 05SRT4 on June 27, 2013, 03:26:24 am
Where the coin button is located, is that going to hit the other top buttons? If its the same  Coin button (http://groovygamegear.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=89&products_id=295)  I am using I had to off set it a little because it was hitting my other buttons. Build looks great!
Title: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: ron310 on June 30, 2013, 06:54:55 pm
Yea, I actually had to redo it. Here's how it looks now
I've really been slacking when it comes to finishing it, but mainly cause i already have a decent setup.
Here is my other bartop, with a player 2 setup next to it.
Title: Re: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: 05SRT4 on July 01, 2013, 02:56:11 am
So is this one just to keep you busy or do you have other plans for it?
Title: Re: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: ron310 on July 01, 2013, 10:45:18 am
My bartop was a kit (northcoast customs, with some of my own changes) and then i did a similar one for a friend.
After doing those, I decided to try and build one from scratch (this one).
It was originally going to be a megatouch type bartop, but that didn't pan out. I was then going to do a roller controller bartop (hence the thread title), but after test playing most of the trackball games, I decided it probably would not get as much use as i planned.
It's got a touch screen, so i'll probably take advantage of that for selecting games, or add jukebox functionality to it.
Now I don't really have any plans for it, other than finishing it.
Title: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: ron310 on August 28, 2013, 05:20:30 pm
Some progress...
I needed to shorten the stick for the stainless ball top on my happ stick.
I had to make new grooves for the clips that go on it and also cut the shaft itself down in size.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/08/29/he3ytynu.jpg)
I don't have a before pic, but you can see how much I cut off next to it.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/08/29/gebepuse.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/08/29/u7adyge8.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/08/29/yvy4e7us.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/08/29/areheze7.jpg)
I put the shaft in a drill and then held a hacksaw blade on it while it spun to cut the new grooves, then I did the same to shorten it, by holding the blade till it cut through.
I then spun it against a file to smooth the end off that I cut.
I also put a heavier spring in it to compensate for the additional weight of the ball top.
I patched the cutout in the top of the bezel (where the light originally sat) using an aluminum sheet, and then built it up using JB weld steel stick, and sanded it flush.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/08/29/epybygym.jpg)
Title: Re: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: GoYouSalukis on August 28, 2013, 11:00:48 pm
Kudos for your hardcore DIY Machining! I never would have thought of tackling a job like that with a hand drill! Very ingenious!
Title: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: ron310 on September 02, 2013, 07:02:04 pm
Finished marquee plexi...
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/03/baju8e8u.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/03/ru4apeha.jpg)
Title: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: monkeychunkuk on September 02, 2013, 07:28:16 pm
Coming along nicely


(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f225/imlived/imageedit_15_4953545115.gif) (http://www.customcades.com/)
Title: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: ron310 on September 07, 2013, 03:00:44 pm
I soldered up all of the connections:
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/08/a3uqu9e2.jpg)

Then tested the speakers, marquee light, computer, and monitor:
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/08/4yquru2u.jpg)

Then I disassembled all the electronics and started gluing everything together:
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/08/utu3avu6.jpg)

Once everything dries, i'll fill all the screw holes and imperfections with wood filler, sand and prime.
Title: Re: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: ron310 on September 30, 2013, 02:30:11 pm
more progress...
I mounted the speakers using aluminum blocks on one side and the other slips under he bracing:
 
Title: Re: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: ron310 on September 30, 2013, 02:32:42 pm
Then I made an area to hold the volume controls and started building up the base using jb weld steel stick.
Title: Re: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: ron310 on September 30, 2013, 02:36:55 pm
I then re-did the bezel in thin particle board, as the metal one was not going to work, and also started bending the plexi for the control panel using a heat gun and a 25lb bar.
Title: Re: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: ron310 on September 30, 2013, 02:38:39 pm
Started sanding and smoothing everything out.

Should be ready for primer and paint soon
Title: Re: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: skjerk on September 30, 2013, 04:54:01 pm
Very nice progress!
I like your all-in-one plexi-solution - but won't it make it difficult to get to the cp-bottom?

I'll be keeping an eye out for updates  :applaud:
Title: Re: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: matt4949 on September 30, 2013, 05:05:37 pm
watchin this one




Title: Re: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: ron310 on October 03, 2013, 08:03:07 pm
Very nice progress!
I like your all-in-one plexi-solution - but won't it make it difficult to get to the cp-bottom?

I'll be keeping an eye out for updates  :applaud:

I'm actually going to cut the plexi after the curve as it's a touch screen and I can't cover it.
The whole cabinet is glued together except for the bezel and 2 access panels.

I left the front bottom (under the CP) open so that it's easily accessible.
I wanted to make the cabinet as solid as possible, but also make it so that all the electronics were replaceable.
I ended up making 2 access areas. One in the back to access the monitor and pc, and the bottom front to access under the CP. I still have to do the panels to close them up, but I may do the cp one in plexi, depending on how nice the wiring looks. 

I forgot who suggested it, but I did the "mdf armoring"  :woot (great idea) using a mixture of 2 parts water, one part glue.
It soaked it up and dried nice and solid. I'm going finish sanding it with super fine grit paper and prime it in the next few days. Pics to follow when it's primed.
Title: Re: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: blueznl on October 05, 2013, 03:47:38 pm
The holes left top and bottom of your speakers (ie. the round holes are larger than your oval speakers) will make everything sound 'thin'. Better close them with a little strip of left-over material.
Title: Re: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: ron310 on October 06, 2013, 12:46:51 pm
Thanks for the tip. Should be easy enough to do with some scrap moulding.
Title: Re: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: ron310 on October 06, 2013, 08:26:49 pm
 First coat of primer
Title: Re: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: ron310 on October 11, 2013, 07:27:29 pm
Decided to tackle the speaker issue.
Title: Re: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: ron310 on October 22, 2013, 06:51:05 pm
First layer of red went down today. The color is Rustoleum Brand Apple Red Gloss.
Doesn't photograph too well.
The CP will be black pleather under plexi with textured black t molding and the bezel will probably be flat black. (or red, not sure yet)
Title: Re: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: matt4949 on October 22, 2013, 08:29:10 pm
SEXY
Title: Re: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: ron310 on November 10, 2013, 03:02:51 pm
Had some issues with the paint... I had some mineral spirits still on the roller from when i cleaned it and wrecked the paint applying another coat.
Lesson learned (always use new rollers)...
Anyway, cleaned it up as best i could, and put a few more coats on.
Still need to do one more coat and then its on to putting it all back together.
Title: Re: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: ron310 on November 10, 2013, 03:04:52 pm
They look dull, because it was after sanding...
Title: Re: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: ron310 on December 06, 2013, 10:47:26 am
 Slow and steady progress (well, slow at least)

Title: Re: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: ron310 on December 06, 2013, 10:49:16 am
More
Title: Re: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: Drnick on December 07, 2013, 12:35:38 pm
Nice use of the Pleather, I used a bunch of that on the inside of my machine. I couldn't be arsked  to spray all the inside too.
Title: Re: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: ron310 on January 05, 2014, 02:00:59 am
Been a while, but did some more work...
I ended up ditching the touchscreen idea. I was trying to use it, just cause it was there. I broke the bezel i made, because it was real thin and cracked while installing.I instead went back to my original plan. I heated up a piece of 1/4 inch plexi and stared bending to do a 1 piece bezel/control panel. I used poset board instead of painting for the monitor masking. I also finished the sound wiring. Here are the pics.


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Title: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: ron310 on January 05, 2014, 02:02:30 am
Sound controls


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Title: Re: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: ark_ader on January 05, 2014, 03:27:16 am
Interesting build.  :applaud:
Title: Re: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: ron310 on January 05, 2014, 09:43:25 am
Forgot this one
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Post by: BAMBOO on January 05, 2014, 02:08:23 pm
Can't wait to see the finished product.
Title: Re: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: mcseforsale on January 05, 2014, 02:27:47 pm
Hmm.. Maybe this will motivate me to finish my bartop. :D

AJ
Title: Re: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: ron310 on January 05, 2014, 06:23:32 pm
More Progress
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Post by: ron310 on January 05, 2014, 07:07:54 pm
Tried this theme also...
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Post by: ron310 on February 16, 2014, 11:45:05 am
Finished all the wiring and started on the back panel. I just need to finish up the back and touch up some paint.
Title: Re: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: ron310 on February 16, 2014, 11:47:50 am
The red button is the power, and the toggle switch is for the marquee light
Title: Re: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: ron310 on February 16, 2014, 11:55:50 am
This ones going up for sale once it's finished if anyone's interested. Shoot me a PM.
I need the $$ to fund the Haruman kit that I have here collecting dust. :-\
Title: Re: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: pbj on February 16, 2014, 06:26:20 pm
Admittedly, I'm over the bartop fad but that's a nice looking end product.

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: 404 on February 16, 2014, 09:33:16 pm
This ones going up for sale once it's finished if anyone's interested. Shoot me a PM.
I need the $$ to fund the Haruman kit that I have here collecting dust. :-\

Love the street fighter finish to the bartop. if only i had money at the moment, i'd make you an offer on the cab sans the pc inside of it  :-\
Title: Re: Roller Controller Bartop
Post by: ron310 on February 17, 2014, 09:06:56 pm
Admittedly, I'm over the bartop fad but that's a nice looking end product.

 :cheers:

Thanks.
I was feeling over it too about mid way.
It was a battle just to get myself to finish it.