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I just took a look at the list of Oscar nominations for 2012. (http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/2012-oscar-nominees-full-list/story?id=15427892) Granted, of the best picture nominees I've only seen Moneyball and Midnight in Paris. But my general feeling is that it was slim pickings this year. Midnight in Paris was fantastic (especially if you've read much Ernest Hemingway). But Moneyball? It was good, but that's all. It's not like I'll ever have any desire to watch it a second time. I'm still going to watch most of the others, but I haven't been especially excited about any of them.
And how about Pixar? Not even nominated this year. I mean, they didn't deserve to be (Cars 2), but that's equally surprising. Feature length animations have their own category. So few feature length animations are made each year that, generally speaking, simply making a film automatically gets you a nod from the Academy in this category. For example, some past nominees: Happy Feet, Ice Age, Jimmy Neutron, Shark Tale.
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this year will make up for it I guess :cheers:
cant wait for all the high budget summer blockbusters.
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Summer blockbusters too. What did we have last year that was good besides Harry Potter? Planet of the Apes? Mediocre.
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like....nothing ???
transformers...IN 3D!!!!1! plus captain america and thor were decent. cant complain.
this year will be KRAY!
- gi joe retaliation
- spiderman
- avengers
- battleship(hit and miss..)
- PROMETHEUS :notworthy:
- dark knight rises
- superman
- TOTAL RECALL (I dont even know what this is supposed to be lol)
- THE EXPENDABLES 2 (battle of senior citizenz!)
- THE BOURNE LEGACY (without matt daemon..eh??)
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Limitless was my favorite 2011 movie.
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I didn't like limitless. It started out good, but he kept doing too many incredibly retarded things for someone who was supposed to be suddenly like the smartest guy in the room.
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Just got done watching Descendants. It was pretty good. Midnight in Paris is still my favorite. My wife liked Descendants more.
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I think this thread is about movies for 2011?
Dont want to get off topic, but anyway, starting tomorrow is a movie that looks very promising: The Grey.
I wont get to see it until next weekend though, due to my work schedule.
The new one with Cuba Gooding Jr (cant think of the name right now) looks good too. About WWII flying aces.
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The new one with Cuba Gooding Jr (cant think of the name right now) looks good too. About WWII flying aces.
George Lucas is doing that one, so it's sure to be a train wreck. Every studio on the planet turned him down so he's funding the whole thing himself. That being said, it could be the blockbuster of the year because he somehow got an interview with Oprah. :puke :puke
Basically he wants to do another movie about dog fights and the Star Wars fans have abandoned him, so this give him an excuse to do a film about dog fights. Don't expect a heartwarming tale about race relations an such, unless you thought that the swt had a meaningful and realisitic plot. ;)
It also doesn't help that this film has already been made, and recently at that. There is a film re-running on halmark channel about the black fighter pilots of WWII right now.... it was a small budget film and had a limited release in 2005 (ish?).
I would go so far as to say it's been a tough century thus far for movies. (2000 onwards). I mean you've got the lord of the rings films, but after having those re-runned to death I'm starting to see that maybe they weren't as good as I thought when I first saw them.
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The new one with Cuba Gooding Jr (cant think of the name right now) looks good too. About WWII flying aces.
George Lucas is doing that one, so it's sure to be a train wreck.
it is
its "obtainable" but a waste of time
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I have Midnight in Paris already donnwloaded, maybe I will watch it in my theater room tonight.
I almost have IN TIME with Justin Timberlake downloaded, I kind of wanted to watch that one. It’s just not right that I don’t hate Justin Timberlake, it's just not right.
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Basically he wants to do another movie about dog fights and the Star Wars fans have abandoned him, so this give him an excuse to do a film about dog fights.
That is pretty funny since the Xwing and Tie Fighters sequences in 4 and 6 were inspired by WWII dog fights.
http://cineleet.com/2008/05/22/before-the-galaxy-far-far-away/ (http://cineleet.com/2008/05/22/before-the-galaxy-far-far-away/)
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Limitless was my favorite 2011 movie.
OK, I enjoyed the movie, but couldn't get over this: (SPOILER):
At one point it is implied that during one of his black outs he kills a woman, the police pursue it briefly, and then that plot point is NEVER referenced again. Pretty much all the stuff mentioned here: http://underthegunreview.net/2012/01/02/what-the-film-limitless/ (http://underthegunreview.net/2012/01/02/what-the-film-limitless/) (after watching it I had to google "Limitless plot holes" to make sure I didn't just miss something).
Agreed with OP though, I don't know any year I have gone to the theater less than this last one.
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I think this thread is about movies for 2011?
I agree with your sentiment. It's a mistake to call them 2012 Oscar nominations. But it's not my mistake. It's silly to name the award for the year of the ceremony rather than the year in which all the movies were made, but that is nevertheless what they do.
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I figured that, after I made my post.
Movies for 2011 pretty much sucked. I didnt go very much, and honestly I cant recall all the ones Ive seen.
I liked Cowboys and Aliens.
Planet of the apes was good.
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like....nothing ???
transformers...IN 3D!!!!1! plus captain america and thor were decent. cant complain.
this year will be KRAY!
- gi joe retaliation
- spiderman
- avengers
- battleship(hit and miss..)
- PROMETHEUS :notworthy:
- dark knight rises
- superman
- TOTAL RECALL (I dont even know what this is supposed to be lol)
- THE EXPENDABLES 2 (battle of senior citizenz!)
- THE BOURNE LEGACY (without matt daemon..eh??)
Im a huge comic nerd (surprise) but have you seen the new spiderman suit? Its freaking awful. He has suction cups on his feet, and yellow eyes. The lizard looks terrible too. Saw the concept art and man, looks so...wrong.
Hoping Avengers is going to be good, they better get the hulk right or there will be some wicked nerd rage.
Dark Knight rises is going to be awesome. I hope Bane breaks his back like he does in the comics, the only thing Im worried about with that movie is how they are going to handle catwoman. I hope they cover up Anne Hathaways face, her body is nice but I hate that doe eyed look she has
Total Recall is going to suck, no mars, no mutants, no 3 boobed chicks. Yawn.
Prometheus looks awesome. I saw the demo reel for the guy that is doing the animitronics for it. Its going to be stunning.
Supes doesnt come out til 2013. :'( Expendables is going to be PG-13 cause Chuck Norris is a big fat vagina.
How the hell can you say that Planet of the Apes was medoicre shmokes? That movie was amazing. I cant wait for the sequel.
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Yeah, I just saw the new spidy costume...bad.
I hate that every costume design these days has to have a kevlar texture to it,
(http://www.hypergeek.ca/wp-content/gallery/15/spider-man-575.jpg)
(http://www.fromheroestoicons.com/blog/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/spidermansetpicsfeb4a3.jpg)
I just saw the new superman costume as well, I don't know if that can even be called a superman costume. Maybe superman's kevlar outfit that faded in the laundry after 10 years of use.
(http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/man-of-steel-costume1.jpeg)
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2011 was such a weak year, you know its bad year when a french film, shot in black and white about silent movies is nominated for best picture. I think it also shows its a bad year that the fat chick from bridesmaids was nominated as best supporting actress. There has been no "OMG you have to see this!" movie this year, unless you are a Twilight fan or a Harry Potter nerd. Personally I found the Harry potter movies boring....
Anyhow next year:
GI Joe will be garbage just like the first one, but it will have good action scenes and ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- blowing up, so it will be decent.
Don't think Spiderman will be good.
Avengers will be garbage, all the other marvel films have been borderline garbage. Here is the problem, we love comics because something like the X-Men has been around for 40+ years and there is a deep mythology there and a lot of character development over the years. When you try to distill all of that down to 2 hours, you end up making most of the characters look shallow. You can't properly develop the story for a whole team of people in 2 hours and tell a compelling story. That is why most comic movies suck, there are just too many characters. This is why the new Batman films are pretty good, they focus tightly on two or three characters.
Battleship will probably stink but be fun to watch
Prometheus looks great, loves me some Ridley Scott
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Avengers will be garbage, all the other marvel films have been borderline garbage. Here is the problem, we love comics because something like the X-Men has been around for 40+ years and there is a deep mythology there and a lot of character development over the years. When you try to distill all of that down to 2 hours, you end up making most of the characters look shallow. You can't properly develop the story for a whole team of people in 2 hours and tell a compelling story. That is why most comic movies suck, there are just too many characters. This is why the new Batman films are pretty good, they focus tightly on two or three characters.
To me thats one of the things the marvel movies has been working toward the right way with the avengers movie at least. Have a movie on every hero before throwing together a superhero bonanza. After a complete plot meltdown with the X-men, I think they are trying to fix that issue (and grab more money in the process). ;)
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I don't know, the difference between the other Marvel movies and The Avengers is Joss Whedon. He tells good character-driven stories in a sci-fi/fantasy context, so I am looking forward to it.
Chances are The Avengers, Dark Knight Rises, and Prometheus will be the films I suffer through a public theater experience for.
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Avengers will be garbage, all the other marvel films have been borderline garbage. Here is the problem, we love comics because something like the X-Men has been around for 40+ years and there is a deep mythology there and a lot of character development over the years. When you try to distill all of that down to 2 hours, you end up making most of the characters look shallow. You can't properly develop the story for a whole team of people in 2 hours and tell a compelling story. That is why most comic movies suck, there are just too many characters. This is why the new Batman films are pretty good, they focus tightly on two or three characters.
To me thats one of the things the marvel movies has been working toward the right way with the avengers movie at least. Have a movie on every hero before throwing together a superhero bonanza. After a complete plot meltdown with the X-men, I think they are trying to fix that issue (and grab more money in the process). ;)
Somewhat disagree as a fanboy:
- Hulk 1 was awful, Hulk 2 is on my list to see but I have low expectations
- Iron Man 1 was good, Iron Man 2 was pretty good
- Thor was good
- Captain America was really good
- Avengers hopefully will be somewhere in there as well
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I liked Incredible Hulk, but I also liked Ang Lee's Hulk and I am totally psyched for another dose. I thought Captain America was weaker than Thor but still good. I really wish that the DC machine would get with the program and start producing some quality apart from Patrick Bateman... I mean Batman. Green Latern? What the hell man, fun but poorly executed. I pray for the upcoming superman.
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Avengers will be garbage, all the other marvel films have been borderline garbage. Here is the problem, we love comics because something like the X-Men has been around for 40+ years and there is a deep mythology there and a lot of character development over the years. When you try to distill all of that down to 2 hours, you end up making most of the characters look shallow. You can't properly develop the story for a whole team of people in 2 hours and tell a compelling story. That is why most comic movies suck, there are just too many characters.
I think you're memory is foggy here. The first two X-Men movies were great. Brett Ratner made an utter piece of garbage of the third film. But the recent X-Men: First Class was really good. The first two Spider-Man movies were great too. As was the first Iron Man. The second Iron Man and Thor, while not great, were at least watchable. Haven't seen Captain America. And there have been lots of great non-Marvel ones. Hellboy was fantastic. Hellboy 2 was even better according to all the critics, but IMO it sort of sucked. Kick Ass was phenomenal. Scott Pilgrim was great. The Watchmen was quite good. American Splendor was a masterpiece. The Crow was pretty good. And then you have the first Tim Burton Batman (and sort of the second) as well as both the Chris Nolan ones.
There have been A LOT of good comic book movies.
Edit: Heh . . . I totally left out the first two Christopher Reeves Supermans.
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Scott Pilgrim was great.
+ a billion
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I don't know, the difference between the other Marvel movies and The Avengers is Joss Whedon. He tells good character-driven stories in a sci-fi/fantasy context, so I am looking forward to it.
Really? You really think his FILMS are good?
Let's take a look shall we?
Buffy the Vampire Slayer (the film, not the series)
Alien Resurrection
Speed
Waterworld
Twister
X-men
Now fans of Joss (as well as the man himself) will say that directors and other writers monkeyed with his original vision. That excuse is getting old though. All these years and the only good thing he's ever produced is Buffy, it's spinoff and firefly/serenity. Everything else he has a hand in turns to crap. I'm rooting for the guy because his good work is REALLY good, but he's starting to look like the Next George Lucas.... famous for one and only one fantastic thing.
Even assuming that it isn't excuses (and that very well could be the case) what would lead you to believe that they aren't going to have idiot directors, producers and movie making types monkey with his vision and ruin it like they have with virtually every single film he's ever wrote?
The problem with these types of films is that the budget is too high, so the studios constantly pester the individuals who are supposed to be in charge to change things based on their non-sensical monetary concerns. Of course the catch 22 is that most super hero movies would be terrible without a high special effects budget, so there you go.
I've gotta say, this new wave of super hero movies has been really terrible.... mind you most of them are watchable, but that isn't exactly high praise. I think the second Hulk film did a really good job of capturing the theme of the old tv show and the comics, so I would say it's a success. The second (not the first or third) spiderman was really good as well. I would say that the first was also pretty good except for the fact that their interpretation of the goblin was so lame. It's a common problem with these new super hero movies.... they spend so much time pumping up the hero that the villian isn't even secondary. It ruined the fantastic 4 films, the last two xmen films, the iron man films and the green lantern film. People should look back at the Tim Burton Batmans.... the ONLY successful superhero adaptations of popular characters. They had powerful villians, a powerful setting, and writing that wasn't merely good, but matched the theme and pacing of the comic the franchise came from.
You guys also worry me that you are looking forward to films that you expect to merely be "good". That's a sure sign right there that the bar has been dropped REALLY low.
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Let's take a look shall we?
Buffy the Vampire Slayer (the film, not the series)
Alien Resurrection
Speed
Waterworld
Twister
X-men
I like every single movie on that list.
I'm rooting for the guy because his good work is REALLY good, but he's starting to look like the Next George Lucas.... famous for one and only one fantastic thing.
Which fantastic thing would that be? The entire Star Wars cannon, or Indiana Jones? Maybe American Graffitti. Hard to say ;D
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Really? You really think his FILMS are good?
Let's take a look shall we?
Buffy the Vampire Slayer (the film, not the series)
Alien Resurrection
Speed
Waterworld
Twister
X-men
You obviously don't know much about the man. He had very little (if anything at all) to do with most of the films you mentioned (early script drafts that were thrown out) and you forgot one he did: Toy Story. You're right, he is only known for one good thing... ::) I am just saying, I expect to enjoy Avengers more because of his involvement. Between Avengers, Cabin in the Woods, and Much ado About Nothing, I have no doubt his movie directing career will be as well received as his TV career was. I only wish The Avengers had more strong female leads (Black Widow, meh), as he obviously shines in that kind of situation (Buffy, River Tam, etc.).
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I just watched Captain America. OMG. With the possible exception of Battle L.A. That was by far the worst movie I've seen from 2011. It was almost bad enough to be good comedy (see: 2012).
By the way, where the hell is Win/Win? That movie was amazing. It was way better than Moneyball. Better than The Descendants, too.
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Scott Pilgrim was great.
+ a billion
I don't know, a ton of people love Scott Pilgrim, but it just didn't jive too well with me. I usually like offbeat nerdy movies, and there was no shortage of great references and attention to detail in the film. It just seemed to be a teen romance drama that they honey-glazed with video game references to get me to swallow down that I was watching a bunch of Michael Cera moping around. And the repetitive humor...After the 2nd fight I kept thinking I was pretty much thinking "OK. I get it, they are fighting and it is suppose to be like a video game fight. The bad guy turned into coins...again. Are they really gonna keep running with this one?" Yes, yes they did.
Maybe I have just seen too many of those crappy highschool video game movies on youtube and this rang of a big budget version of that.
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I don't know, a ton of people love Scott Pilgrim, but it just didn't jive too well with me. I usually like offbeat nerdy movies, and there was no shortage of great references and attention to detail in the film. It just seemed to be a teen romance drama that they honey-glazed with video game references to get me to swallow down that I was watching a bunch of Michael Cera moping around. And the repetitive humor...After the 2nd fight I kept thinking I was pretty much thinking "OK. I get it, they are fighting and it is suppose to be like a video game fight. The bad guy turned into coins...again. Are they really gonna keep running with this one?" Yes, yes they did.
Maybe I have just seen too many of those crappy highschool video game movies on youtube and this rang of a big budget version of that.
Agreed, I didn't care for it too much either. I think my main problem is I hated the main character, he was a complete ---meecrob---. At the end of the movie I was just thinking "Why do I care if we wins this fight or not"
Anyways, my favorite movie of 2011 is probably The Muppets. I might not like it as much when I see it a second time, but it was exactly what I was hoping it to be when I saw it in the theater.
Another highlight for me this year was Tucker & Dale Versus Evil. I haven't seen Rise of Planet of the Apes yet, but I just got the dvd from netflix, so I'll be watching it this weekend. Other movies I really want to see but haven't yet are Drive, 50/50, and The Guard.
Overall a very mediocre year for movies.
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Drive, 50/50, and The Guard were all really good. Especially the latter two. I had totally forgot about tucker & Dave. I need to pick that up. The Muppets was interesting. I took my 5-year-old daughter to it. I really liked it, but I could tell that she was bored with at least 60% of the movie. But it didn't surprise me at all either. The movie was made for adults, almost entirely. If you have any question about that, pay attention to the audience at the end when they're finally putting on the Muppet Show at the end. Where are all the children?
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Why the weak Movies?
The actors/actresses are making more money on Television.
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The Muppets was interesting. I took my 5-year-old daughter to it. I really liked it, but I could tell that she was bored with at least 60% of the movie. But it didn't surprise me at all either. The movie was made for adults, almost entirely. If you have any question about that, pay attention to the audience at the end when they're finally putting on the Muppet Show at the end. Where are all the children?
Well, it was much more close to the original vision of the Muppets, The Muppets were always created to be made for adults, but something that the kids could watch along. Jim Henson moved on from sesame street because he believed that puppets could be a form of adult entertainment as well.
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I just watched Captain America. OMG. With the possible exception of Battle L.A. That was by far the worst movie I've seen from 2011. It was almost bad enough to be good comedy (see: 2012).
By the way, where the hell is Win/Win? That movie was amazing. It was way better than Moneyball. Better than The Descendants, too.
Wow, really? Its my favorite Marvel adaption. Do you not like/know the source material?
Red Skull is his proper villain, and the humble hero portrayal was pretty much perfect (I thought Chris Evans was going to ruin it), lots of great action, one-liners, and nice tie-ins to other characters in the series. Tony Starks dad was great.
I wouldn't consider it a movie for an Oscar talk thread, but loved it as a hero/action movie.
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I only have a passing knowledge of the source material. I never read Captain America. But I loved Hellboy and had never heard of it before the movie. And I know the Spider-man and X-men source material fairly well, but still hated Spider-Man 3 and X-Men 3. It's really more about the quality of the movie than how close it stayed to the source. I thought Captain America was just awful. If it was faithful to the source I suppose I would find the source equally awful, but it wouldn't raise my estimation of the film at all.
Of course, the theme is so stupid to begin with it's hard to imagine anyone making a success out of it. Captain America? It's just embarrassing. Can you imagine how idiotic a Captain France or Lieutenant Canada superhero would be? How about a superhero called General Germany or Sergent Soviet Union (that one would actually be badass--he could fight with a hammer in one hand and a sickle in the other).
But honestly, it was the movie. I felt pretty much the same about the Thor premise (a superhero that is literally a god is a retarded premise). But Thor turned out to actually be pretty good. A bit stupid, but it didn't take itself seriously and turned out to be sort of a fun little movie. But Captain America . . . just every single second of it was torture. So incredibly stupid. And that guy, Chris Evans you say, was terrible. He so reminded me of Nicholas Cage in action films. Awful awful awful. Everything about it, including Agent Smith. Why in god's name did his face look like a lollipop anyway?
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Of course, the theme is so stupid to begin with it's hard to imagine anyone making a success out of it. Captain America? It's just embarrassing.
A patriotic, do-goody superhero wearing the colors of our flag and fighting for justice, how could that ever succeed? You might as well call him superma--- oh wait... ;)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fa/Superman14.jpg)
Just as an FYI, Captain America was created during WW2. Sure it may be a bit dated, but as far as the golden age of comics goes, Captain America is about as iconic as it gets, apart form the Sup'.
I do know there is a Captain Canuck in Canada and a Captain Britain in the UK. I don't know much about Capt'n Canuck, but Capt'n Britian draws a lot from Arthurian legend.
I think it is pretty darn common for countries to have at least one "national superhero" :dunno
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Let's take a look shall we?
Buffy the Vampire Slayer (the film, not the series)
Alien Resurrection
Speed
Waterworld
Twister
X-men
I like every single movie on that list.
I'm rooting for the guy because his good work is REALLY good, but he's starting to look like the Next George Lucas.... famous for one and only one fantastic thing.
Which fantastic thing would that be? The entire Star Wars cannon, or Indiana Jones? Maybe American Graffitti. Hard to say ;D
The SWT and that's it. Indiana Jones was saved by Speilberg's Directing, so Lucas gets little if any credit. Try watching a Indy film, remove all the sfx great camera shots and focus on just the story.... that bit of "gold" was Lucas's. Ever seen American Graffitti? It's one of those terrible 80's style teen comedies set in the 50's. Excessively overrated. And if you like any part of the SWU other than the SWT then you have poor taste and that pretty much explains why you are defending him. ;) Regardless, giving Lucas credit for the entire universe is like giving Roddenberry credit for Star Trek Enterprise.... he has, little if nothing to do with most of the extended universe.
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Really? You really think his FILMS are good?
Let's take a look shall we?
Buffy the Vampire Slayer (the film, not the series)
Alien Resurrection
Speed
Waterworld
Twister
X-men
You obviously don't know much about the man. He had very little (if anything at all) to do with most of the films you mentioned (early script drafts that were thrown out) and you forgot one he did: Toy Story. You're right, he is only known for one good thing... ::) I am just saying, I expect to enjoy Avengers more because of his involvement. Between Avengers, Cabin in the Woods, and Much ado About Nothing, I have no doubt his movie directing career will be as well received as his TV career was. I only wish The Avengers had more strong female leads (Black Widow, meh), as he obviously shines in that kind of situation (Buffy, River Tam, etc.).
Wrong. I know way way too much about him. I'm a hardcore Buffy/Firefly fan. ;) He had a LOT to do with those films. In the case of Buffy and Resurrection he wrote the whole damn thing. He refuses to admit it though (going so far as to actually request that his credits be removed) because he wants to protect his image as some sort of nerdist genius. On the other hand, Toy Story went really really well, so even though he was one of 6 writers that worked on the script, he takes all the credit he possibly can. Now don't get me wrong, it's a very smart thing for a writer to selectively publisize himzelf in Hollywood, but what it does is make it look like he's a far better writer than he actually is.
You talk about his movie career like it's just starting. He's been doing films for AGES. He actually started doing tv because he was such a failure at films. Now he's doing films because he's went full circle and has become a failure at tv. (Ever seen dollhouse? BLEH!)
I hope he does do well, but if this were vegas, the odds of him making a good film would be pretty slim.
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Of course, the theme is so stupid to begin with it's hard to imagine anyone making a success out of it. Captain America? It's just embarrassing.
A patriotic, do-goody superhero wearing the colors of our flag and fighting for justice, how could that ever succeed? You might as well call him superma--- oh wait... ;)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fa/Superman14.jpg)
Just as an FYI, Captain America was created during WW2. Sure it may be a bit dated, but as far as the golden age of comics goes, Captain America is about as iconic as it gets, apart form the Sup'.
I do know there is a Captain Canuck in Canada and a Captain Britain in the UK. I don't know much about Capt'n Canuck, but Capt'n Britian draws a lot from Arthurian legend.
I think it is pretty darn common for countries to have at least one "national superhero" :dunno
Please my foreign friends don't get mad, but the reason American superheros are so awesome is because America is awesome (the symbolisim at least).
You never hear of someone wanting to live the "french dream" or move to canada, the "land of opportunity".
Vigo is dead on in regards to this point anyway.
Also the Cap is STILL a fantastic super-hero. If anything superman is the lame one, what with his brainless boyscout act. The cap started as wartime propaganda but over the years evolved as a figure that always did the right thing, even if the right thing wasn't the popular opinion at the time. He often faces up against the goverment and even other superheros to defend "american" morality and rights. The whole beign frozen for 50 years kind of helps to make him a romantic legend as well. It also gives him a bit of "I can be slightly corny" leeway as well. Supes on the other hand has remained virtually unchanged with no explaination. I like em both, I'm just saying....
You have to remember that characters like CA and SM were invented as symbols to help people get through the darkest times of ww2. The garish, over the top outfits are part of their symbolism and they made such a lasting impression that even 70+ years later people STILL get mad if you try to monkey with their costumes or make the characters too dark.
Mind you this has nothing to do with the film, other than the fact that the potential was there.
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cpt america movie wasnt THAT bad.. :dunno
wasnt even bad at all. easily top 10 of the year. personal opinion of course.
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Also enjoyed The Muppets. Saw a lot of 'Airplane' type of humor in it.
Just last Saturday I saw 'Super 8' for the first time. Wednesday night was the 2nd viewing.
I loved this movie. The acting and style reminded me of Stand By Me and Dreamcatcher. While it can be pretty predictable, I really enjoyed this film. I'd probably put it in my top 50 of all time.
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Watched Tucker and Dale yesterday. It was pretty great. The movie sort of lost its way 2/3 of the way through, but it was still a pretty refreshing change from the usual formula.
PBJ, see Win/Win. Easily the best movie I saw last year.
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The SWT and that's it. Indiana Jones was saved by Speilberg's Directing, so Lucas gets little if any credit. Try watching a Indy film, remove all the sfx great camera shots and focus on just the story.... that bit of "gold" was Lucas's. Ever seen American Graffitti? It's one of those terrible 80's style teen comedies set in the 50's. Excessively overrated. And if you like any part of the SWU other than the SWT then you have poor taste and that pretty much explains why you are defending him. ;) Regardless, giving Lucas credit for the entire universe is like giving Roddenberry credit for Star Trek Enterprise.... he has, little if nothing to do with most of the extended universe.
You are such a curmudgeon. You give lucas zero credit for creating the characters and story lines of the Indy Films? That's almost as absurd as believing that sitting too close to a television is bad for your eyes.
Without Lucas none of the SW Universe would exist so yeah he gets credit, just like Roddenberry gets credit for spinoffs that he had nothing to do with directly, it's all in his sandbox so it's all thanks to him. Whether anything decent came after the SWT is debatable but either way it wouldn't be there without Lucas.
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win/win was hilarious btw. almost coen-bros tier.
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Spielberg is pretty sucky anyway. He's made a few great films, but most of what he does is super safe, formulaic drivel. And he's capable of making garbage on the level of George Lucas's worst. In fact, he'll do it with Lucas (see: Indiana Jones 4).
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Lucas gets probably 90% of the credit for conceiving Raiders of the Lost Ark. It was completely his idea for the character, the plot, the tone of the film.
When it came down to taking the idea and making it a tangible and enjoyable film, it was 90% Spielberg and his team. The actual script, the directing, the style it was filmed in. Spielberg is not a brilliant idea guy, but he knows something good when he sees it. If he puts in 100% of his efforts, as he did with Raiders, it will be good.
Lucas has great ideas but he is not a talented film guy, every disaster in Star Wars and Indiana Jones is heavily tributed to him having too much control over the work. His major successes are almost always linked with someone taking his ideas and making them even better. In fact, if Lucas had his way, Indiana Jones would have been called Indiana Smith. Spielberg pushed him away from that name.
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Somewhat back on topic, I watched "I am #4" last night, not sure if it's a '10 or '11 release. It's a little thick in the exposition and a little tweeny in the plot development but it was an ingaging fun little movie.
As for Scott Pilgrim, I can see how the fight sceens may drag for some audiences but it is one of the most faithful screen adaptions i've seen for a comic. Some of the shots are frame for frame from the books which was fun to see. That said I liked the movie first then read the books which made me like the movie even better.
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I hope he does do well, but if this were vegas, the odds of him making a good film would be pretty slim.
You do sound like a fan of his! ::) Whatever, man. If you don't like his stuff, don't see his stuff, but don't act like you have some inside info the rest of the internet doesn't. I'll be checking out anything that has his name in the credits. If it is good (Buffy), I will throw my money at it, if it is bad (Dollhouse) I will hope for something better next time. Pretty much the same way I approach Christopher Nolan- some creators- be it in movies, games, music, have earned my optimism about their projects, and Whedon is at the top of my list.
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In Howard's defense, Christopher Nolan has a far more consistent track record than Whedon. Buffy and Firefly were both great TV, and Serenity proved that he has the chops to do a feature length film well. But Dollhouse was absolute garbage. And plenty of directors debut with one great film and then go on to never live up to their promise.
The fact that Whedon is attached gives me hope for Avengers, thanks to Serenity, but I'd call it very cautious optimism. Nolan on the other hand, given Memento, Batman 1 & 2, Inception, and to a lesser degree everything else he's done, is in another category altogether. I don't go into a Nolan film with cautious optimism. More like I would leave the theater surprised and dismayed if the movie were less than excellent.
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If it is good (Buffy), I will throw my money at it, if it is bad (Dollhouse) I will hope for something better next time.
Dang,
I liked Dollhouse, wife did too. Can't remember if it was shaky in the beginning and then got better as it went on, but we really really enjoyed it.
For the record, Whedon does have some Comic background which could (or could not...) not help regards to the Avengers movie. He wrote or was involved with a number of Buffy books, and got some critical acclaim for his work with the X-Men and the Runaways. FYI.
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Dang,
I liked Dollhouse, wife did too. Can't remember if it was shaky in the beginning and then got better as it went on, but we really really enjoyed it.
Yeah, I just couldn't get into it... I can't say I watched every episode, but I did catch most of them. I think I was expecting it to scratch the same itch Buffy did, but tonally it was a very different show.
Whedon's comic successes are definitely part of my interest in the Avengers as well.
And to be clear, I am definitely not trying to compare Nolan and Whedon, as they are very different creators. But they both have lifetime appointments to my brain's "check this guy's stuff out" list, alongside Gabe Newell (Valve). JJ Abrams has a trial membership.
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Of course, the theme is so stupid to begin with it's hard to imagine anyone making a success out of it. Captain America? It's just embarrassing.
A patriotic, do-goody superhero wearing the colors of our flag and fighting for justice, how could that ever succeed? You might as well call him superma--- oh wait... ;)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fa/Superman14.jpg)
Just as an FYI, Captain America was created during WW2. Sure it may be a bit dated, but as far as the golden age of comics goes, Captain America is about as iconic as it gets, apart form the Sup'.
I do know there is a Captain Canuck in Canada and a Captain Britain in the UK. I don't know much about Capt'n Canuck, but Capt'n Britian draws a lot from Arthurian legend.
I think it is pretty darn common for countries to have at least one "national superhero" :dunno
Like Vigo stated, why would that be embarassing? What is wrong with patriotism now adays? Its like people are ashamed to be American or something. Yeah, why wouldnt they? Everyone thinks that their culture/country is the best, why shouldnt we, and like Howard said, we are so... yeah.
Granted the movie isnt what I would have done with it, but I liked the writing, and the theme, the art direction, my only problem was the casting. I hated how they used Chris Evans for Captain America, when he was already tied to Fantastic Four. I thought Hugo Weaving as Red Skull was awesome, he was by far the best part of the movie.
Thats another sign of the times, Superman used to fight for truth, justice, and the american way... They even changed that in the script of the remake because they didnt want to "offend" anyone. ::) Its ridiculous. If any other country created stuff as cool as us, I would be into that as well.
I think the Spiderman movies could have been better too, if they cast someone aside from Tobey Maguire as Peter Parker. The dude cant act, he freakin sucks. But the production was top notch, especially on the second one. The third one was atrocious, as far as Im concerned, it never existed, just like the fourth terminator.
Hopefully Avengers doesnt suck, I just want the Hulk to do some badass stuff. I got my Avengers fix from the cartoon series, that was great.
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The third one was atrocious, as far as Im concerned, it never existed, just like the third and fourth terminators.
fixed that for you.
I dont recall anyone mentioning another Marvel superhero movie, The Punisher. While Dolph Lundgren's Punisher was pretty terrible, Thomas Janes' Punisher was actually quite good. I like to pretend Punisher : WarZone never happened too.
Back on topic a little, save yourself the money and don't bother watching Haywire, its mega ---smurfing--- terrible.
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The third one was atrocious, as far as Im concerned, it never existed, just like the third and fourth terminators.
fixed that for you.
I dont recall anyone mentioning another Marvel superhero movie, The Punisher. While Dolph Lundgren's Punisher was pretty terrible, Thomas Janes' Punisher was actually quite good. I like to pretend Punisher : WarZone never happened too.
Back on topic a little, save yourself the money and don't bother watching Haywire, its mega ---smurfing--- terrible.
Ah thank you, dont know how I missed that. :cheers:
I agree with you on that, if John Travolta wasnt in it, it would have been better.
Awww man, Haywire sucked? I wanted to see that, I absolutely LOVE Gina Carano. :drool
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Like Vigo stated, why would that be embarassing? What is wrong with patriotism now adays?
There's nothing wrong with some patriotism. But, like anything, it can be taken too far. And it frequently is, more than most things. It's like the parents who put My Child is an Honor's Student bumper stickers on their car. It's not that there's anything wrong with being proud of your kid. It's something altogether different.
BTW, I'm very fond of Earth. But Captain Planet is retarded.
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BTW, I'm very fond of Earth. But Captain Planet is retarded.
I disagree but I respect your candor:
Don Cheadle is Captain Planet (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwJaELXadKo#noexternalembed-ws)
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I thought they toned the "overly patriotic" bit quite a bit in the movie, and parodied it even in the bit when he was selling war bonds. They kept the patriotism directly with how Steve Rogers felt and was willing to selflessly fight for America. Didn't seem to overdo it at all.
I'm gonna agree that the movie isn't the way I would have like to have seen it though, and agree with the comments that Chris Evans kinda blows, but I still wouldn't call the movie on of the worst of they year, especially when there are things like Hangover 2 or "Big Momma's house 3: Like Father Like Son" on the table.
BTW, I love not having my cereal soggy in milk, AND I am a fan of Captain Crunch. I guess you can say, like the captain, I'm a pretty "pro-crunch" guy.
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Just throwing this out there but I got a DVD of Paranormal Activity 3 over the weekend that I was hoping was going to be the 'unrated' version with additional footage and commentary.
Instead I got some special edition with an optional descriptive audio track for the blind.
I cannot, for the life of me, think of a movie more boring than the Paranormal Activity series for a blind person. Except perhaps Fantasia.
The descriptions always come a few seconds before the action, so it's along the lines of
"The door slowly opens..... then it slams shut..." *BANG*
And it's given in a flat monotone by a male narrator.
Damnedest thing, worth a listen for a few minutes.
Fantasia has always been fairly popular with the blind community. Theatres have great sound systems and the blind community are largely audiophiles. The deaf community, however, is largely bored to ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- by Fantasia but are huge fans of horror because they don't spend all their time freaking out at the "ka-cha-cha ooh-cha-cha" sound effects. They as a group do kinda lump into the "hurry up and show us the damn monster already" camp, but I'm right there with them.
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I would think anything musical would be bad with audio descriptions for the blind cutting into the song. Pink Floyd's: The Wall would be hilarious with the music constantly being cut into with monotone comments like "hundred of faceless children shuffle emotionlessly into a giant meat grinder." or "An army of giant pairs of hammers march along the landscape."
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I thought they toned the "overly patriotic" bit quite a bit in the movie, and parodied it even in the bit when he was selling war bonds. They kept the patriotism directly with how Steve Rogers felt and was willing to selflessly fight for America. Didn't seem to overdo it at all.
I'm gonna agree that the movie isn't the way I would have like to have seen it though, and agree with the comments that Chris Evans kinda blows, but I still wouldn't call the movie on of the worst of they year, especially when there are things like Hangover 2 or "Big Momma's house 3: Like Father Like Son" on the table.
BTW, I love not having my cereal soggy in milk, AND I am a fan of Captain Crunch. I guess you can say, like the captain, I'm a pretty "pro-crunch" guy.
Agreed. I still havent seen Hangover 2 or Big Mommas house haha. Conan was a huge disappointment though, I liked CA more than that tripe, and I was actually looking forward to that one.
Hey, I love having a good buzz from time to time, because being sober is just plain boring. I formally endorse Captain Morgan, I would sail to the ends of the earth with that guy!
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I haven't seen them either, but I haven't heard one good thing about hangover 2, and figured Big momma was a safe bet at being awful. I could have also gone with "Marley & Me: The Puppy Years". I had heard Conan was disappointing so I haven't seen it. It would seem like a pretty hard movie to screw up, it's not like anyone is demanding too much from the plot...just make it gritty and entertaining.
Haha, Captain Morgan, another good captain. I fully endorse him as well, any day of the week.
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Hangover 2 = Hangover 1 in Thailand... meh...
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What does it say?
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It'd kill you guys to just chuckle at a joke once in a while, wouldn't it.
Why, did someone say something funny? >:D
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St. Croix (arguably the most corrupt place in the USA IMO) gets federal money for every bottle of rum that's made. For the first time ever, these funds are being kicked directly back to the business as a financial incentive. Ideally they're used for roads and such.
So Captain Morgan not only gets to sell you a bottle of rum, they get paid by the government to produce it.
:dizzy:
Hrm....Well, he is a pirate. Being on the Caribbean and theft is all part of his MO.
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St. Croix (arguably the most corrupt place in the USA IMO) gets federal money for every bottle of rum that's made. For the first time ever, these funds are being kicked directly back to the business as a financial incentive. Ideally they're used for roads and such.
So Captain Morgan not only gets to sell you a bottle of rum, they get paid by the government to produce it.
:dizzy:
Holy ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---. Well... Wont be drinking THAT anymore...
Vigo: :laugh2:
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There's always "Sailor Jerry"
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Sailor Jerry nothin'. If you like spiced rum, get a bottle of Kraken. Not only is it far tastier than Captain, it's also in the coolest bottle at the alcohol store. And it's not too expensive. A buck more than Captain where I live.
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RELEASE THAH KRAKEN!?
quick question, is rum and liquor just as bad for your health?? mix with club soda maybe?? I like beer but its making me fat so I had to stop. cutting down to only once a week and maybe socially.
(off topic)
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I suppose it depends. If you're drinking to get a buzz I suppose you're going to drink a lot less liquor than beer. But on the other hand, if you just wanna have a few drinks you're gonna feel a lot better in the morning sticking with beer. In terms of getting fat, though, at least liquor isn't filled with a metric ton of empty carbs.
With that said, I'm mostly drinking beer and wine these days and usually not in large quantities (recent week in Miami discounted as an outlier). A night of drinking liquor means a following day of semi-groggy nonproductivity.
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If you're drinking to get a buzz
pretty much yeah..
it just makes things little better. street fighter+booze is serious business :cheers: think I am gonna try things out and see how it works out for me.