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Title: What's your favorite comic book and what's the last one you've read?
Post by: Louis Tully on October 04, 2011, 08:15:32 pm
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Post by: saint on October 04, 2011, 09:07:57 pm
Batman: No Man's Land. (1-5)
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Post by: Donkbaca on October 04, 2011, 09:19:23 pm
Batman - hush was also pretty good
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Post by: wp34 on October 04, 2011, 09:23:12 pm
The Flash.

I'm reading the new #1 right now.
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Post by: NiN^_^NiN on October 04, 2011, 10:35:52 pm
I can't say I read comic books but i have been reading the walking dead and I'm staying up to date.
If I get time i'll check out some of the other ones you guys recommend  :applaud:
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Post by: opt2not on October 05, 2011, 12:16:17 am
I really haven't collected or read a comic in a long while now. I just even got rid of the last of the comics I collected when I was younger, but I saved only a few that I just had to keep.

The Dark Knight Returns - first and second series, though I love the first one better. So dark and gritty, and the artwork was amazing.

Havok and Wolverine: Meltdown - pretty cool plot, but the artwork was so wonderfully different. Done with water colour and inks, with very cool designs. When I was a kid, I used to catch myself just staring long at each panel.

No wonder I'm an artist.
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Post by: Ginsu Victim on October 05, 2011, 12:28:46 am
The only thing I read regularly now is The Walking Dead.

I never buy comics anymore, just trade editions and graphic novels.

Batman: The Killing Joke is definitely my favorite, though I love The Dark Knight Returns, Year One, Year Two, and Gotham By Gaslight.

opt2not: You are correct, sir. Havok and Wolverine: Meltdown IS awesome.

I've also been buying The Dark Tower and Marvel Zombies hardcovers, but both of them have lost my interest over time.

Currently reading (while I await the next Walking Dead volume): Dylan Dog, Preacher, and Scott Pilgrim (which I started way before the movie, just never finished).
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Post by: jamesjones626 on October 05, 2011, 12:44:32 am
The only thing I read regularly now is The Walking Dead.

I never buy comics anymore, just trade editions and graphic novels.

Batman: The Killing Joke is definitely my favorite, though I love The Dark Knight Returns, Year One, Year Two, and Gotham By Gaslight.

opt2not: You are correct, sir. Havok and Wolverine: Meltdown IS awesome.

I've also been buying The Dark Tower and Marvel Zombies hardcovers, but both of them have lost my interest over time.

Currently reading (while I await the next Walking Dead volume): Dylan Dog and Preacher
I use to have batman the killing joke first print when i was a teen, use to drive me insane anytime i seen the joker on some batman show or cartoon as some looney wimpy shmuck when he's really an insane killer.
I use to read uncanny x-men in the 80's and then the 2nd series x-men in the 90's.  I havn't kept up with comic books since i was 15 (im 31 now) so i bought some recent uncanny x-men comics mainly for the cover art and the nostelgia of going to the comic store.
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Post by: Ginsu Victim on October 05, 2011, 01:57:30 am
I use to have batman the killing joke first print when i was a teen

Still got mine. ;D
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Post by: Rando on October 05, 2011, 10:37:56 am
I never buy comics anymore, just trade editions and graphic novels.
Ditto on this point,
I don't have time or patience to follow monthly books, so populate my Amazon wish list with books so people have something easy to get me for Birthday/Christmas.  I was out of comics for a while, and then I found a Podcast (iFanboy) that I found pretty good and they regularly make recommendations like "Best book of month" or "top 5 trades".  Using this I got some books to try out and pretty much everything that they've recommended I've enjoyed.  Below are some that stand out in my recent memory:

- Fables (ongoing) - Stories featuring characters from traditional fairy tales that live in our modern day world after escaping from their individual worlds.  (Ex: Snow White didn't really enjoy her time with the dwarves, Prince charming is kind of a womanizer having married and divorced several leading ladies, Little boy blue is kind of a badass that had to leave a lot of friends behind, story of the Frog Prince is sad sad sad...)
- Y the last Man (ended series) - Just what it sounds like, something happens, and all males of all species on Earth suddenly perish, except for one guy and his monkey.  I'm in the middle of these trades.
- Mouse Guard (2 HC books) - Heavy on visuals, low on words, really pretty books featuring Mice which reminds me of LOTR a bit.
- Scott Pilgrim (6 digest sized books) - Recently made into a good movie, story about a slacker and his quest to win a girl, which he can only do if he defeats her 7 evil exes.  Lot of video game references in movie & books.
- Pride of Baghdad (trade) - Really neat story about a pride of lions that escape from a Zoo in Iraq following US bombings.

I have "Walking Dead" and "War Stories" to read but haven't broken into them yet.  All above are fairly recent non-traditional comics, I've heard the latest run on FF4 is really good and is on my list to get.  Some of the recent DC reboot (Wonder Woman anyone?) looks good as well, but will probably be a few years before I get to try any.

[EDIT: Didn't read full request, some of my all time favorites: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (non Archie version), Uncanny X-Men, Grendel.]
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Post by: SavannahLion on October 05, 2011, 11:16:09 am
I used to work at a comic and card shop a few years ago and I never really got into the comics. I think the fact that there were guys who looked like Comic Book Guy (Simpsons) who came in and purchased short boxes full of comics on a monthly basis, talked down to you if you didn't know what exactly was said in Batman #34 page #6 panel #4 and never ---fouled up beyond all recognition--- a woman unless it was the whore on the street corner at the last Comicon kind of turned me off to the whole thing. In the two or three years I worked there, I only amassed approximately 1 1/2 short boxes of comics. And the majority of those comics where gathered after I quit the shop. In any case....

I don't have a particular favorite. Most of my collection consists of Animal Mystic most of which I never actually got around to reading. I did have a particular fondness for Yosagi Yojimbo but got into it just before all my suppliers quit the business and I never really got back into comics again.
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Post by: saint on October 05, 2011, 11:22:04 am

- Fables (ongoing) - Stories featuring characters from traditional fairy tales that live in our modern day world after escaping from their individual worlds.  (Ex: Snow White didn't really enjoy her time with the dwarves, Prince charming is kind of a womanizer having married and divorced several leading ladies, Little boy blue is kind of a badass that had to leave a lot of friends behind, story of the Frog Prince is sad sad sad...)


I will double, triple, and quadruple concur with Fables. If you haven't checked it out I *highly* recommend it. I bought the first graphic novel, read it, then bought all the rest as soon as I could afterwards.
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Post by: Donkbaca on October 05, 2011, 11:32:53 am
I'll check some of this stuff out.  I have a comic reader on my phone and have um... a means of acquiring digital copies of the books for free.  Its a neat way to read stuff on the go, and its free...
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Post by: Rando on October 05, 2011, 12:12:26 pm
Have read:

TMNT 1-13
LT,
Is this the orginal 1-13 from Mirage comics?  Black & white and more gritty than the movies/tv shows?  The series got funky at times but was good most of the time.  My favorites were when Eric Talbot was involved in the artwork:

(http://www.miragelicensing.com/comics/mirage/volume01/17/17cover.jpg)

One of my all time favorite single issues was the somewhat silent Leonardo one-shot that leads into TMNT #10 where Leonardo is out alone and fighting to get back home:

(http://www.miragelicensing.com/comics/mirage/volume01/leo/leo02.gif)

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Post by: misfit1138 on October 05, 2011, 12:13:57 pm
I'll ALWAYS say Amazing Spider-Man is my favorite comic no matter how bad/terrible/good/great it is at the time. I can't quit you Spider-Man.

Last one I read though is the one I co-created. The Pound [shameless]http://www.frozenbeachstudios.com/pound (http://www.frozenbeachstudios.com/pound)[/shameless]
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Post by: Necro on October 05, 2011, 12:30:23 pm
Green Lantern and all variations (Corps, Emerald Warrior, etc.)

Just got through all brightest day and caught up.
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Post by: Well Fed Games on October 05, 2011, 12:38:11 pm
Ah, yes, Fables, Y: The Last Man, Watchmen, all favs of mine as well. I was big into Marvel (X-Men, Spider man) in the 90s, like a lot of people. Currently only thing I read that is "new" is the Dark Horse Buffy, Angel, and Serenity Comics. Bought Buffy season 8 issue by issue but got tired of trying to grab one of the (apparently) three copies my local shop ordered each month. Now it is graphic novels off of Amazon for me.
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Post by: fallacy on October 06, 2011, 04:35:44 pm
I stopped liking comics when I was 14 and superman died and then they made 4 different superman’s after the funeral.
One was his reanimated cops- he had all these electricity powers.
One was his genes mixed in with a cyborg Skelton.
One was a clone of him as a teenager.
And the 4th was some jerk off that made a full metal suite and called himself superman. I did not get that one.

Anyway at that time everyone was collecting these comics saying this was some epic time in comic book history and that these comics would be worth a lot some day. It was then that I realized comic books would never be worth anything ever again.  18 years has past and I was right!  :laugh:
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Post by: Well Fed Games on October 06, 2011, 05:17:05 pm
It was then that I realized comic books would never be worth anything ever again.  18 years has past and I was right!  :laugh:


Yeah, I collected around the same time. Not a lot, a couple of longboxes, have never sold one for more than the cover price.
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Post by: Louis Tully on October 06, 2011, 05:43:02 pm
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Post by: saint on October 06, 2011, 06:41:47 pm
OK - I'm actually at home with my collection, so:

Batman: Cataclysm (precursor to Batman: No Man's Land, read it first)
Batman No Man's Land (1-5)
Fables
Batman Knightfall (1-3)
Girls (1-4, The Luna Brothers) - it's a bit out there
Grimm Fairy Tales (1-?)
The Sandman (1-?, Neil Gaiman)
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Post by: Mikezilla on October 06, 2011, 07:09:58 pm
Since I just bought my house, I have had a resurgence in comics because I had to move them out of storage and keep em in my man cave. I stopped reading comics when they made Spidermans clone come back, tore out wolverines adamantium, killed off Superman, and when Bane broke Batmans back. I swear they did it all at the same time. But as of late, I started buying up comics after going to comic con here in SD. I never bought any of the comics with the Spider clone in them, but I started buying up the novels explaining the story. So. Here is what I have been reading:

Spiderman:Complete clone saga
The dark knight returns - awesome story, but I cant stand the artwork
Batman Killing joke - GREAT story
Batman Hush - Jim lee is one of my favorite artists of all time, and the storytelling is wonderful. Batman is very well written
Robocop series by Dynamite - Art and story were great, discontinued
The Infinity Gauntlet TPB - art and story are amazing. Good old school 90's comics
Kingdom come
Red Son
Wolverine: Old man Logan - This is an awesome story as well, if you like wolverine, you should pick it up.
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Post by: Donkbaca on October 06, 2011, 07:55:28 pm
I haven't read in a while but generally the wolverine miniseries are good; the Batman story arcs are good; knightfall, cataclysm, no man's land, hush, etc. and when actively read in the mid 90's I used to think that Daredevil was criminally underrated.
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Post by: drventure on October 06, 2011, 09:05:58 pm
The Flaming Carrot

 :afro:
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Post by: Pixelhugger on October 06, 2011, 09:27:18 pm
Danger Girl
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Post by: danny_galaga on October 07, 2011, 09:16:19 am
I'm not a huge comic fan, but I dabble (",)

Probably the last two I read were The Ballad of Halo Jones and a Corto Maltese book called The Ballad of the Salt Sea. My favourite comic title is Iznogoud, which I read when I was a kid. With the advent of ebay, I decided I needed to have them again. Of course, since there was only ever one edition of them in English, they were pricey. I reckon I spent over 600 bucks on 8 issues over a period of a couple of years. The year after, they re issued them in Engish. You can buy them brand new for 10-15 bucks now  :angry:

Was worth it though. When I finally re-read that first issue, maybe 30 years after I had last read it, I damn near teared up...
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Post by: robertwillton on October 07, 2011, 09:26:26 am
Unlike arcade games and pinball, I actually managed to outgrow comic books.  I have made my way through a couple of graphic novels lately, and they've been okay.

 :dunno

Even i am fond of going through graphic novels.Its interesting.I am not a big fan of reading comic books.
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Post by: Rando on October 07, 2011, 10:41:43 am
Anyway at that time everyone was collecting these comics saying this was some epic time in comic book history and that these comics would be worth a lot some day. It was then that I realized comic books would never be worth anything ever again.  18 years has past and I was right!  :laugh:
Yep,
Speculation market of the early 90's.  On the positve, new companies with creative rights for artists and writers emerged, and all kinds of new stuff was coming out.  Lots of ideas, lots of books, interesting time.  On the negative side, everyone expected their comics to be worth something, so people were buying and preserving multiple copies, variant covers and bagged issues appeared, etc.  Quality declined, everything was overpriced and nothing ever did become super-valuable, and lots of people left the market.  I started hearing buzz again about books in the mid-2000's, and there are some really good stories/books out there to read.

Two things:
 - Recommended this before, but if you have the time, check out ifanboy.com and their podcasts.  3 comic guys that went through the speculation crash above and give their recommendations each week, best of the year, etc.  Good picks and perspectives.
 - Bone - Disney meets LOTR type story involving 3 odd looking brothers that are run out of their homeland and find themselves in a valley inhabited by quiet townsfolk, evil rat creatures, and possibly dragons.  Can now buy in a single phonebook sized edition for complete story.

(Incidentally, Bone helped to fuel the speculation market, as it was a VERY low run book (self-published) initially so the first few issues were super-expensive for a bit.  Then they hit the 5th printing and anyone that wanted it had it.)
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Post by: shateredsoul1979 on October 07, 2011, 10:49:20 am
Currently I'm reading The Walking Dead  :applaud: and Habibi. Habibi touches themes you'd never see in a normal comic, it's more of a "graphic novel" but it's comic style. I'm going to read Maus next. Then go back to Y the last man. Fables was sorta cool too, seeing how those kid fairy tales would live in our society seemed interesting (having sex, killing each other, and more).

I really recommend Habibi though. From the back cover "Winner of the Eisner, Harvey, and Ignatz Awards for Best Graphic Novel and Best Cartoonist"
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Post by: shateredsoul1979 on October 07, 2011, 10:59:48 am
found Habibi (Hardcover) for $15 less than cover price!  :angry:


http://www.overstock.com/Books-Movies-Music-Games/Habibi-Hardcover/5622208/product.html?rcmndsrc=2 (http://www.overstock.com/Books-Movies-Music-Games/Habibi-Hardcover/5622208/product.html?rcmndsrc=2)

I guess I can consider that a donation toward the local comic book shop
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Post by: Howard_Casto on October 07, 2011, 11:15:23 pm
The only two I read anymore are The Walking Dead and Kick Ass Book 2.  Of course Kick Ass Book 2 is a bit of a challenge to read namely because they never release the damn thing.  It's been a solid year and we are only up to issue 3. 

I also reccomend the Buffy Comics and to a lesser degree the Angel comics. 


As for the super hero books they've been a mess for a long time.  I used to read Thor, but there have been too many universe changes to bother anymore. 
DC universe is equally screwed due to "the new 52". 
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Post by: Ginsu Victim on October 08, 2011, 10:59:33 am
Of course Kick Ass Book 2 is a bit of a challenge to read namely because they never release the damn thing.  It's been a solid year and we are only up to issue 3.

Yeah, I figured I would just wait for the hardcover. I loved the first book, and the movie was almost as good.
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Post by: wp34 on October 08, 2011, 08:56:25 pm
OT - Has anyone found a good frame for comics?  I have a few Silver Age comics I would like to frame and hang in my "game room".  I want something that will not damage the comic.
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Post by: Well Fed Games on October 08, 2011, 09:19:18 pm
OT - Has anyone found a good frame for comics?  I have a few Silver Age comics I would like to frame and hang in my "game room".  I want something that will not damage the comic.

I just bought a few... the craft store chain Michael's sells a "Magazine Float Frame" under their "Studio Decor" brand name that are 11in x 13in, and it sandwiches the comic between glass. I have yet to get comics in them, and I am not putting anything very valuable in them (probably obscure Dark Horse stuff), but they seemed like a good way to go. I think they run about $10 normally, I got a bunch on sale for $4 a pop a few weeks back.
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Post by: wp34 on October 08, 2011, 10:09:58 pm
OT - Has anyone found a good frame for comics?  I have a few Silver Age comics I would like to frame and hang in my "game room".  I want something that will not damage the comic.

I just bought a few... the craft store chain Michael's sells a "Magazine Float Frame" under their "Studio Decor" brand name that are 11in x 13in, and it sandwiches the comic between glass. I have yet to get comics in them, and I am not putting anything very valuable in them (probably obscure Dark Horse stuff), but they seemed like a good way to go. I think they run about $10 normally, I got a bunch on sale for $4 a pop a few weeks back.

I looked at those and really liked them but was not sure how safe they would be. $4 is a great deal.  I may pick a couple up to try out if they get that low again.  Thanks.   :cheers:
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Post by: Howard_Casto on October 09, 2011, 10:14:14 pm
The thing about comics, or anything printed on paper is that sunlight will do far more damage than anything else.  The only way to preserve them is by not displaying them.  ;)
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Post by: shateredsoul1979 on October 09, 2011, 11:17:20 pm
I liked this on-line comic strip my brother shared, someone translated it from Japanese to English. I'm not sure if there's more, check it out (scroll down to see the beginning of the comic)

http://comic.naver.com/webtoon/detail.nhn?titleId=350217&no=31&weekday=tue (http://comic.naver.com/webtoon/detail.nhn?titleId=350217&no=31&weekday=tue)
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Post by: Rando on October 10, 2011, 09:25:42 am
I also reccomend the Buffy Comics and to a lesser degree the Angel comics. 
The trade for FRAY is good if you like Buffy, Slayer story based in future.

DC universe is equally screwed due to "the new 52". 
If I were following the monthly books I would agree, but imagine this would be a great time to jump on if you liked characters but never knew where to start.
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Post by: Well Fed Games on October 10, 2011, 09:42:21 am
I liked this on-line comic strip my brother shared, someone translated it from Japanese to English. I'm not sure if there's more, check it out (scroll down to see the beginning of the comic)

http://comic.naver.com/webtoon/detail.nhn?titleId=350217&no=31&weekday=tue (http://comic.naver.com/webtoon/detail.nhn?titleId=350217&no=31&weekday=tue)

Never thought a comic could make me jump...

I also reccomend the Buffy Comics and to a lesser degree the Angel comics. 
The trade for FRAY is good if you like Buffy, Slayer story based in future.


Yes, Fray is very good.
I am hoping they tone things down a bit in Buffy season 9. Being that they had no budget/FX constraints, some of the plot points seemed a little... much. But it is Buffy, not like I am not going to buy the season 9 TPBs either way!
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Post by: Louis Tully on October 10, 2011, 01:54:27 pm
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Post by: Thraxster on October 12, 2011, 04:21:42 am
The last one I read was The Flash Omnibus vol.1
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Post by: Louis Tully on October 30, 2011, 12:32:56 pm
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Post by: saint on October 30, 2011, 02:09:38 pm
Holy ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---, you guys weren't kidding about Fables. It's very well put together. Not at all what I was expecting. I'm almost finished with the first arc and it's safe to say, I'll be reading many, many more.


:cheers: Thanks for the excellent recommendation.  :cheers:

 :cheers: Good to hear. The "Jack of Fables" spinoff is worth reading also.
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Post by: Rando on November 03, 2011, 11:23:46 am
Holy ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---, you guys weren't kidding about Fables. It's very well put together. Not at all what I was expecting. I'm almost finished with the first arc and it's safe to say, I'll be reading many, many more.


:cheers: Thanks for the excellent recommendation.  :cheers:

 :cheers: Good to hear. The "Jack of Fables" spinoff is worth reading also.
Glad you liked it!

The Jack books are pretty good, I miss him in the regular book, but he did get a little too big for it.  Jack spins off after issue 35, if you want to wait until then so it makes sense.  If you like the first arc of Fables so far, have fun, cause that is the weakest section of the series.

AFTER you have read through a number of the books and have met more characters, encountered more of the "Adversary", and learned about the ongoing war, find/read "1001 Nights of Snowfall".  Somewhere after issue 22 would be good, just be sure to read this before you reach issue 60.  This is a standalone group of stores in the style of "One Thousand and One Arabian Nights" where the teller of the tales has to tell a new story each night in order to stay alive.  You get some good retellings of traditional fairy tales that you are familier with, with dark twists.  Most notably regarding Snow White and the Frog Prince.


Side note, NBC was Developing a TV series based on the comic, and it then moved to ABC, where is sat in limbo.  Then ABC announced a different show (Once Upon a Time) which seems VERY similar in concept, but is not Fables.  So if you see that and it sucks, don't hold it against Fables!! :)
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Post by: Louis Tully on November 03, 2011, 12:25:39 pm
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Post by: ark_ader on November 04, 2011, 04:55:21 pm
I was in the library today, and I used to read comic books like 20 years ago my favourite was Judge Dread 2000AD, not the small books you used to get like 35 years ago  :laugh2: but the large full sized editions.  The art work that went into episodes such as Devlin Waugh was top notch. 

(http://www.2000adonline.com/books/assets/covers/devlin_waugh_swimming_in_blood.jpg)

Anyway I was in the library (again) and I noticed starwars comics, but in novella form.  I was addicted, spent something like an hour standing there reading one after another.

Again the artwork is superb, so I'm looking for a good comics app for the hannspad tablet, so I can get my fix when I'm out and about.
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Post by: Well Fed Games on November 04, 2011, 06:32:33 pm
I was in the library today

I picked up the V for Vendetta Graphic novel today at my library, thought it was an ok find. Occasionally they have something good comic-wise (I once found the collected Bone series, which made me happy).
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Post by: Ginsu Victim on November 07, 2011, 09:47:27 am
Yeah, my local library has a decent selection of manga, graphic novels, and trade editions. We check them out regularly.
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Post by: youngjohn12 on January 13, 2012, 08:20:10 am
I really haven't gathered or study a comedian in a extensive while now. I just even got rid of the last of the comedian strips I gathered when I was youthful, but I stored only a few that I just had to keep.

The Black Dark night Dividends - first and second sequence, though I really like the first one better. So dark and gritty, and the graphics was awesome.

Havok and Wolverine: Predicament - very awesome plan, but the graphics was so fantastically different. Done with water color and ink, with very awesome styles. When I was a kid, I used to get myself just gazing extensive at each section.
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Post by: Louis Tully on April 07, 2012, 03:14:26 pm
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Post by: eramsabe on April 07, 2012, 05:05:55 pm
Cable - Stranded
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Post by: mzerba on April 07, 2012, 06:56:43 pm
comics are what started me into games....I collect superman comics and related issues, currently have between 5000 and 6000 books several statues and other collectables. Had to have the 1979 atari superman pinball machine to add to the collection. Bought 2 broken one to build one good one. lots of fun so added another pinball, shuffle bowler, pool table, fooseball, and finally a mame machine.
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Post by: flashiv on April 08, 2012, 02:13:49 am
The Flash (Barry Allen), both for favorite and last read.
I also read the JLA (for Barry)  ;D
The new stuff is good, but I always have a soft spot for the silver age stuff.
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Post by: kahlid74 on April 08, 2012, 08:16:14 pm
One of my favorites is still the Infinity Gauntlet but I'm done with Marvel/DC until they charge less for a digital comic versus a Physical.

So I've begun to read Manhwa's and holy shinikies!  In my top 5 of all time now rests "The Breaker" and "Veritas".  Both series are just flat out epic.

So yeah, I'm reading Breaker: New Waves right now.
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Post by: yaksplat on April 08, 2012, 09:35:01 pm
Groo the wanderer :D
Title: Re: What's your favorite comic book and what's the last one you've read?
Post by: Mikezilla on April 10, 2012, 12:29:21 pm
One of my favorites is still the Infinity Gauntlet but I'm done with Marvel/DC until they charge less for a digital comic versus a Physical.

So I've begun to read Manhwa's and holy shinikies!  In my top 5 of all time now rests "The Breaker" and "Veritas".  Both series are just flat out epic.

So yeah, I'm reading Breaker: New Waves right now.

I just re-read the Infinity Gauntlet cause my friend is going to dress up as Thanos for comic con. Such a great read. They just dont write comics like they used to. Well, not as often anyway. I just read Planet Hulk, and I thought it was a good read for a relatively "new" comic. Im going to pick up where it leaves off, with World War Hulk.
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Post by: garnerb350 on April 12, 2012, 12:00:10 pm
Im about the same also as for I havent read comics in a long time , but i do pick up the every once in a while graphic novels... I have a box of comics stored in my closet and its ones i didnt want to get rid of...

Spawn 1-5
Batman Killing Joke (Everybody should at least have a copy of this)
Batman & Dracula Trilogy (Holy water and garlic Batman!)

I read the The walking Dead and i seriously need to get the books to add to my colection

Kingdom Come
Infinity Gaunlet
Secret Wars ( but missing #6 Damn!)

EC Comics Archives ( I love the classic Tales from the Crypt comics and the spin-offs)

Ive got more, but cant name them off the top of my head
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Post by: Mikezilla on April 12, 2012, 12:09:52 pm
Kingdom Come is AMAZING. Marvels is good too. They released the Secret Wars in one fat graphic novel, thats how I finally got to read the whole thing!
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Post by: wp34 on April 12, 2012, 12:50:02 pm
The Flash (Barry Allen), both for favorite and last read.
I also read the JLA (for Barry)  ;D
The new stuff is good, but I always have a soft spot for the silver age stuff.

+1
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Post by: kahlid74 on April 12, 2012, 03:09:08 pm
One of my favorites is still the Infinity Gauntlet but I'm done with Marvel/DC until they charge less for a digital comic versus a Physical.

So I've begun to read Manhwa's and holy shinikies!  In my top 5 of all time now rests "The Breaker" and "Veritas".  Both series are just flat out epic.

So yeah, I'm reading Breaker: New Waves right now.

I just re-read the Infinity Gauntlet cause my friend is going to dress up as Thanos for comic con. Such a great read. They just dont write comics like they used to. Well, not as often anyway. I just read Planet Hulk, and I thought it was a good read for a relatively "new" comic. Im going to pick up where it leaves off, with World War Hulk.

Planet Hulk is fantastic, World War Hulk not so much.
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Post by: Rando on April 12, 2012, 04:07:46 pm
Spawn 1-5
How come you stopped at 5 and didn't instead cutoff at 10?  I thought issue #10 was really a interesting book featuring Cerebus and a lot of other Comic characters, at least in theory.  Not necessarily an interesting SPAWN book mind you, and doesn't impact the overall story, but gives an interesting view of the industry and the beliefs held by Todd McFarlane and his cohorts that recently split from Marvel at the time. 

Not saying it's groundbreaking, but worth reading for a glimpse inside the creator(s) heads.
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Post by: Bootay on April 12, 2012, 05:40:11 pm
I was a huge fan and collector in the 80s/90s. Haven't really read anything regularly since about 98. I did read all of The Walking Dead and Marvel Civil War recently. I enjoyed both. I think that the art and especially the stories have gone downhill for the most part in a lot of the regular series in both Marvel and DC. I stopped collecting regularly shortly after the Spider-Man Clone Saga. Now I strictly read the hardcover graphic novel collections. But I find myself buying the collections of old books more than current stuff. Like Marvel Masterworks and DC Archives.

I was mostly a Marvel guy but I did enjoy Batman and other occasional DC books. I still have all of my comics...about 6 long boxes full all of them bagged and backed too in great condition. I have been thinking about selling them because I really haven't even looked at them in 10 years. I have a crap ton of Spider-Man, X-Men, X-Factor, Avengers, West Coast Avengers, Spawn, Punisher, Captain America, Daredevil...the list goes on ..too many to name. Actually...I have a few from the Death of Superman era...I couldn't follow that story, it was kind of lame. And I remember everyone freaking out over that too saying it was going to be worth money. I knew it wouldn't be. The only ones worth any real money are the ones from WWII era and older. Ones from the 50s-80s can be worth something depending on what it is. But anything from the 90s on up aren't worth crap. Cover price usually. If you're lucky it might be worth $1-2 over cover price. I never collected them because they were worth something though. I liked the stories, and still do.


Title: Re: What's your favorite comic book and what's the last one you've read?
Post by: kahlid74 on April 13, 2012, 09:05:04 am
My problem with Marvel/DC today is two fold:
Title: Re: What's your favorite comic book and what's the last one you've read?
Post by: Donkbaca on April 13, 2012, 11:38:26 am
My problem with Marvel/DC today is two fold:
  • It costs just as much on release for a digital copy as it does for a physical.  I understand you don't want to bite your bread and butter by undercutting them but this is the damn information age.  The entire cost of printing that book should not factor into my cost for it digitally.  While the price discrepancy is probably not huge we should be thinking green.  If a released comic is $3, the digital should be at most $2.

Yeah, they are aware of this, its a tricky situation.  They don't want to kill the comic store, and lots of them are barely hanging on.  Last I heard they were kicking around some sort of deal where the digital copy entitles you to a variant cover hard copy, etc.  They are sort of complimentary goods in a way, since a lot of people like to keep their comics minty, so they would like to have a way to read the stories without getting their grubby, doritos encrusted hands on the actual comic.  But I agree, digital distribution would be a HUGE money grabber for them.  Imagine signing up for a subscription, say 15 bucks a year and a digital copy gets pushed to you every month and you have access to back issues for say 5 more bucks a year. 

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  • If I want to follow a specific comic, X-Men for example, I have to follow the cross-overs too.  If I don't, things can change instantly when I go from issue 76 to 77 where in the middle, civil war bazillion killed off night crawler or something else ridiculous.  So then I follow the crossover but to truly know what's going on I have to buy every damn lead in/tie in.  So to know everything that happened in Cross Over X I have to spend $300+ on comics I don't give a crudmuffins about.  It's stupid ridiculous.  What happened to cross-overs that ONLY had one story line and one series.  I harken back to the Infinity Gauntlet because it did it right.

That doesn't bug me that much, but I haven't read any of the newer crossovers. I think crossovers can be good, they bring continuity to the whole universe across books and are a good way to check out books I otherwise may have overlooked.
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Post by: kahlid74 on April 13, 2012, 01:41:34 pm
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  • If I want to follow a specific comic, X-Men for example, I have to follow the cross-overs too.  If I don't, things can change instantly when I go from issue 76 to 77 where in the middle, civil war bazillion killed off night crawler or something else ridiculous.  So then I follow the crossover but to truly know what's going on I have to buy every damn lead in/tie in.  So to know everything that happened in Cross Over X I have to spend $300+ on comics I don't give a crudmuffins about.  It's stupid ridiculous.  What happened to cross-overs that ONLY had one story line and one series.  I harken back to the Infinity Gauntlet because it did it right.

That doesn't bug me that much, but I haven't read any of the newer crossovers. I think crossovers can be good, they bring continuity to the whole universe across books and are a good way to check out books I otherwise may have overlooked.


I enjoy crossovers, my issue is with all the useless stuff.  Why is there a 5 part Runaways Civil War Crossover tie-in where a main character dies?  I couldn't care at all about the Runaways but now to see what happens I have to spend $15 bucks on characters they are trying to force down my throat.  These crossovers only purpose is cross brand contamination.  They try to get you hooked on other books you couldn't care less about because they think about money more than anything else.
Title: Re: What's your favorite comic book and what's the last one you've read?
Post by: Mikezilla on April 13, 2012, 02:16:15 pm
I was a huge fan and collector in the 80s/90s. Haven't really read anything regularly since about 98. I did read all of The Walking Dead and Marvel Civil War recently. I enjoyed both. I think that the art and especially the stories have gone downhill for the most part in a lot of the regular series in both Marvel and DC. I stopped collecting regularly shortly after the Spider-Man Clone Saga. Now I strictly read the hardcover graphic novel collections. But I find myself buying the collections of old books more than current stuff. Like Marvel Masterworks and DC Archives.

I was mostly a Marvel guy but I did enjoy Batman and other occasional DC books. I still have all of my comics...about 6 long boxes full all of them bagged and backed too in great condition. I have been thinking about selling them because I really haven't even looked at them in 10 years. I have a crap ton of Spider-Man, X-Men, X-Factor, Avengers, West Coast Avengers, Spawn, Punisher, Captain America, Daredevil...the list goes on ..too many to name. Actually...I have a few from the Death of Superman era...I couldn't follow that story, it was kind of lame. And I remember everyone freaking out over that too saying it was going to be worth money. I knew it wouldn't be. The only ones worth any real money are the ones from WWII era and older. Ones from the 50s-80s can be worth something depending on what it is. But anything from the 90s on up aren't worth crap. Cover price usually. If you're lucky it might be worth $1-2 over cover price. I never collected them because they were worth something though. I liked the stories, and still do.

Haha holy ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- Bootay, thats EXACTLY how I felt, and I have the same books, same everything. Thats awesome!  :cheers:

I hope they NEVER go an all digital route, that would be stupid. "Hey check out my comic collection, its on this flash drive". There will always be a comic book, there has to be. I want something tangible in my hand, I like to read print, and visit comic shops to peruse the books, and talk to people about the comics. I dont like the way the world is heading...  :-\
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Post by: Donkbaca on April 13, 2012, 02:29:36 pm

I hope they NEVER go an all digital route, that would be stupid. "Hey check out my comic collection, its on this flash drive". There will always be a comic book, there has to be. I want something tangible in my hand, I like to read print, and visit comic shops to peruse the books, and talk to people about the comics. I dont like the way the world is heading...  :-\

They said the same thing about record stores....
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Post by: Rando on April 13, 2012, 03:03:16 pm

I hope they NEVER go an all digital route, that would be stupid. "Hey check out my comic collection, its on this flash drive". There will always be a comic book, there has to be. I want something tangible in my hand, I like to read print, and visit comic shops to peruse the books, and talk to people about the comics. I dont like the way the world is heading...  :-\

They said the same thing about record stores....
A) I have no problems with comics being available digitally, but I join the hope that they don't go 100%.  I've read some comics digitally, and it's alright, but much rather prefer in issue/graphic novel format.

B) Record stores aren't dead, and neither is vinyl: http://jasonkeath.com/vinyl-album-sales-are-up-25-in-2011/ (http://jasonkeath.com/vinyl-album-sales-are-up-25-in-2011/)

I just got a new record player this chrismas, which happily features a cassette player as well.  Woot!
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Post by: Bootay on April 13, 2012, 03:45:50 pm
I also prefer reading the real books, but reading digitally isn't too bad if you have an iPad or something. I read all of The Walking Dead on a tablet and I thought it was alright. I still prefer to hold a book though...and I must confess, I like the smell of comic books.  No idea why. :)
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Post by: Donkbaca on April 13, 2012, 04:48:17 pm
I prefer reading on a tablet, its just so much more convenient, and if I go on a trip, I can load up my iPad with a bunch of books to read, whereas if I brought like 20 comics with me I would feel like a tool.  People see a guy in his early 30's that is dressed business casual, messing with an iPad and they think he is doing something important.  They say a guy in his early 30's reading a stack of comics, well...
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Post by: Mikezilla on April 13, 2012, 04:53:10 pm

I hope they NEVER go an all digital route, that would be stupid. "Hey check out my comic collection, its on this flash drive". There will always be a comic book, there has to be. I want something tangible in my hand, I like to read print, and visit comic shops to peruse the books, and talk to people about the comics. I dont like the way the world is heading...  :-\

They said the same thing about record stores....

We still have a lot of record stores, you just have to know where to find em. I know what you mean though. Honestly, the times we live in kinda suck. Either that or I was born in the wrong time.

@ Rando: See, my eyes get a little wonky if I read on a tablet. I read some stuff on a friends tablet and I didnt like it. I stare at a screen all day, the last thing I want to do is stare at one when I feel like reading. I just dont like the medium I guess.

Haha bootay I like the smell too. The older the better.

Are you in high school donk? Who the hell cares?!  ;)
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Post by: Vigo on April 13, 2012, 05:23:20 pm
Although I haven't collected comics in years, I have pride over my small collection. I pull them out from time to time, read them, look up the values, yes-smell them. Even if I don't give a crap about the comic, like some valuable old richie rich comics I have. About the dumbest comic imaginable, but I still wouldn't part with them without feeling bad. I plan on parting my original X-men comics to my kid someday as a friggin' heirloom. You just can't have pride over digital comics, and no amount a special edition flash drives or dlc is gonna change that. With that said, I do begrudgingly read comics on my tablet. :(

I will not buy digital music....I still get CD's. yeah, I have to shop online for them most the time, but I have an extremely hard time buying something without a tangible medium.

I'm with mike. I should have been born in the 60's or something. I get more excited about finding a good vinyl record for my collection than take any real interest in any apps or facebook or texting.
Title: Re: What's your favorite comic book and what's the last one you've read?
Post by: Donkbaca on April 13, 2012, 05:54:35 pm
I like comics because the art is fun and the stories are compelling, not because of the smell, or the clutter they create.

FYI Vigo, a CD is digital music, somebody has just burned it on a cd for you and inserted a snazzy little boolet for an obscenely high processing fee.

I think its awesome that I can get whatever I want from the comfort of my living room.  The times we live in are the BEST, I can get whatever I want for a price I feel comfortable with instead of being at the mercy of the a-hole who used to run our local comic shop.
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Post by: Howard_Casto on April 13, 2012, 11:52:30 pm
I like comics because the art is fun and the stories are compelling, not because of the smell, or the clutter they create.

FYI Vigo, a CD is digital music, somebody has just burned it on a cd for you and inserted a snazzy little boolet for an obscenely high processing fee.

I think its awesome that I can get whatever I want from the comfort of my living room.  The times we live in are the BEST, I can get whatever I want for a price I feel comfortable with instead of being at the mercy of the a-hole who used to run our local comic shop.

Correction.... a CD is uncompressed digital music.  What you buy via download is compressed digital.  So the only way to get a prefect copy is to buy the cd. That is until itunes allows you to download wav files.  ;)  You'll also find that a physical cd costs the same, sometimes less than buying every song via download.  I get the feeling you haven't been in a music store in a long time. The average price for a cd is 12-15 dollars.  And a typical song is around a dollar right?  In general a cd has 12-15 tracks.... like I said they are about the same.

Just as an example I looked up LMAO online.  It costs around 10-12 dollars in cd form and it has 14 tracks.    The mp3 download version of the whole album also costs 12 dollars so you can actually save money by buying the cd version.  Even if you don't you get more with the cd version (nice case, liner notes, ect).

Brining cds into a comic book argument doesn't really make any sense though.  A full color, full resolution scan is the same thing regardless of if you prefer to hold the printed pages in your hand or look at them on a screen.

Personally I prefer digital comics because comics lost all collectable value in the 90's, they are fragile, and they take up a lot of room.  I do have some old comics stored in a box somewhere, but I don't read them... if you read them then they get damaged and it ruins the value, so if you are into actually reading comics as opposed to collecting them, digital makes much more sense.

It's kind of like collecting video games.  It used to be fun, but then again games used to be in cart form, and they came with really cool boxes, manuals and extra stuff like maps, ect...  Now all games come in the same dvd case, the disc is usually mono colored to save money and the manual is a single page with a URL to where the online manual is.  Comics just aren't the same, sadly.
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Post by: Drnick on April 15, 2012, 12:15:30 pm
Favourite comic books,  Secret Wars 1 (2 not so much) & Batman Dark Knight Returns.  Recently read through JLA Year one. (Not the best, but definitely not the worst).
Title: Re: What's your favorite comic book and what's the last one you've read?
Post by: kahlid74 on April 16, 2012, 09:32:19 am
For me it's space more than anything.  I pay $3.00 for a brand new comic on release day and unless it's super special or a complete set, it's value literally plummets over time to cents.  So now I have a box of my favorite comics that is worth $15 bucks total and takes up the same space as my SAN that holds 15 TB of comics/movies/music.  Digitally I can read it anywhere, even on my phone albeit a pain in the ass.

Now comes the useability.  When the wife sees me with a laptop or a tablet reading a comic it doesn't anger her nearly as much as a physical copy.  Don't ask me why, but digitally she's okay with it.  It's almost like she doesn't have a grip on it costing something where as physically she can attribute a good to a cost.

So I save space, I save money, I save wife wrath/angst and I get to read anything I want.  All I want is to pay for digital comics on a comparable rate to what it should cost.  Digital comics shouldn't toe along the cost of printing physical.  If someone wants physical then you have to pay for it and if less people want physical then you should have to pay more as the demand goes down but the cost of maintaining the printing presses stays fixed/decreases slightly.  I'm not against physical but if I only want digital I shouldn't have to pay for someone else's printing press.

Now the CD argument is different.  Digitally downloaded songs have less quality and fidelity.  I would however argue that you can't hear a significant difference between MP3 and CD on a regular sound system.  You need a high quality sound system to really hear a difference in fidelity.
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Post by: Donkbaca on April 16, 2012, 03:14:34 pm
^^^ Agree with everything this man says

But price isn't just based on cost, its based on what the market will bear, all companies must find the sweet spot to maximize profits, they figure people pay three bucks a comic now, so 3 bucks is how they have pegged their digital copies.  From a cost perspective, assuming the same sales, prices would be much less expensive to maintain the same margins because the marginal cost of printing a digital comic is basically zero.
Title: Re: What's your favorite comic book and what's the last one you've read?
Post by: Mikezilla on April 16, 2012, 03:22:00 pm
Although I haven't collected comics in years, I have pride over my small collection. I pull them out from time to time, read them, look up the values, yes-smell them. Even if I don't give a crap about the comic, like some valuable old richie rich comics I have. About the dumbest comic imaginable, but I still wouldn't part with them without feeling bad. I plan on parting my original X-men comics to my kid someday as a friggin' heirloom. You just can't have pride over digital comics, and no amount a special edition flash drives or dlc is gonna change that. With that said, I do begrudgingly read comics on my tablet. :(

I will not buy digital music....I still get CD's. yeah, I have to shop online for them most the time, but I have an extremely hard time buying something without a tangible medium.

I'm with mike. I should have been born in the 60's or something. I get more excited about finding a good vinyl record for my collection than take any real interest in any apps or facebook or texting.

 :cheers: Hell yeah on the CD's, I do the same thing. Same exact thing, I have the same phobia of buying access to something. My friend just recently had to borrow a ton of my CD's cause his Ipod with ALL this music crapped out. Something was wrong with itunes, so he couldnt get all the stuff back.

Its funny that you mention that Vigo, I was thinking of starting a vinly collection. I was at the swap meet this weekend (got sunburned to hell) and was talking to an old metal dude, and he had some awesome records.

Whats the big deal about space regarding the comics?! I have a couple long boxes and they dont take up that much space, granted I have a house, but doesnt mostly everyone here? 90 percent of you guys are in the midwest and land out there is cheap.  ;) The wife getting mad at you reading an actual comic book is a little weird to me, no offense.

I dunno, I like having collections of things. Like Vigo stated, when I pay money, I like to have something in return that someone cant take away. Unless I decide to sell it of course.  :lol
Title: Re: What's your favorite comic book and what's the last one you've read?
Post by: Howard_Casto on April 16, 2012, 03:54:31 pm
Well for me, I like digital comics for the same reason I like physical cds... durability. 

I don't like digital music downloads because it's already cruddily compressed and it's easy for the file to become corrupted over time where as a cd will last a long time assuming I don't scratch it.  Heck usually what I do is buy a cd, immediately rip it on my computer and shelf it for archival purposes.  It isn't like I have any cd players anymore.  ;) 

I agree that the difference is negligable btw... but it's the principal of the thing.  Let's say you were in a fruniture store and there were two drawers for the same price but one had a scratch on it.  Why the heck would you buy the scratched one? If digital music cost significantly less than physical music (lets say 50 cents a track) then I wouldn't feel ripped-off but as-is it's kind of a scam imho.   

Comics are the other way around.  Your physical book can be damaged just by looking through it  (the spine breaks).  In order to keep it looking nice you have to store it in a safe place, make sure your hands are dry and clean when you read it, ect...  The digital copy is indestructable compared to the real comic.  Now I could by a physical comic and "rip" it via a scanner, but scanning things is cumbersome and takes a long time and the comic's spine would be virtually destroyed by the time I was done.  I agree that digital comics need to lower in price though, I think a dollar a book would be good.

Here's the solution and this is a free idea to DC, Marvel or anybody that listens.  You know how blu-ray discs contain a code for a free digital copy of the film?  Do the same thing with comics!  Then I could buy a comic, open it to the code page, and shelf it.
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Post by: Mikezilla on April 16, 2012, 04:49:20 pm
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Here's the solution and this is a free idea to DC, Marvel or anybody that listens.  You know how blu-ray discs contain a code for a free digital copy of the film?  Do the same thing with comics!  Then I could buy a comic, open it to the code page, and shelf it.

Damn. Thats a great idea.  :applaud:
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Post by: Bootay on April 16, 2012, 05:06:20 pm
That is a good idea.
Title: Re: What's your favorite comic book and what's the last one you've read?
Post by: kahlid74 on April 17, 2012, 11:40:18 am
:cheers: Hell yeah on the CD's, I do the same thing. Same exact thing, I have the same phobia of buying access to something. My friend just recently had to borrow a ton of my CD's cause his Ipod with ALL this music crapped out. Something was wrong with itunes, so he couldnt get all the stuff back.

Whats the big deal about space regarding the comics?! I have a couple long boxes and they dont take up that much space, granted I have a house, but doesnt mostly everyone here? 90 percent of you guys are in the midwest and land out there is cheap.  ;) The wife getting mad at you reading an actual comic book is a little weird to me, no offense.

So here's where I emphasize that your friend losing his collection has nothing to do with a digital medium and everything to do with being responsible in the digital age and backing up data that's important to you.  There's just no excuse imo anymore for people who lose data.  Just like you get insurance on things that matter to you, you should also get insurance for your data in the way of a backup.

The wife thing is complicated.  I fell in love with a woman who isn't into/doesn't quite get all of my quirky qualities/hobbies and that in a sense is what made her so damn attractive.  She's a fancy pants and is super girly/smart and grew up in a very tight family.  So she wants my time 100% towards our family which I agree with but there is also a side where we both need to still be individuals.  So there is a give/take that goes on as similar in most relationships.  It really comes down to what she sees as entertainment and what I see as entertainment.  Every day she opens up more to my quirks and hobbies and everyday is new and different.  I wouldn't change her for the world.  Her challenging me propels me to better myself.

Space wise at my prime I was filling a box of comics every 1-2 weeks.  That's at least 24 boxes a year.  Are you sure your house has enough storage for that?  I sure as hell don't.  But I've got plenty of space in my server racks for more SANs that can hold years of comics in a single 3U chassis.
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Post by: Vigo on April 17, 2012, 12:37:45 pm
I don't quite see how digital and physical music equate in that same way. Quality differences aside, a lot of digital stuff comes packed with a DRM or other securities disallowing a back up to another source. For example, the minute my old sony MP3 player breaks , I can't take the music I purchased online from Sony for it and put it on my brand new iPod. Even if I backup, it is a fail. The average person doesn't even realize what is sometimes encoded into their music and video when they purchase, and a lot of places are not upfront on whether or not they encode a DRM into it.

In the case of the iPod, there is no first party option to back up your music at all, at least last time I checked. I haven't used any of the new iPods, but on mine you can only pull off your music by downloading a 3rd party utility that will export the music from the iPod, and depending on what the music tag says, it will alter the naming scheme in the process. A lot of people also have been aggravated by the Sync function on itunes. If they lose their music on their computer, many people naturally plug in their iPod to see if they can retrieve it. Well, if they didn't turn off Sync in iTunes they will be rudely surprised that their music lacking iTunes automatically synced their iPod with it, aka: erased all the music on the iPod without warning because there was no music in iTunes.

Also, backing up is a risk itself. A few years back, I was backing up my hard drive to an external drive I had set up as a backup. During the transfer process, both my drives because corrupt. I don't know if it was a power surge or virus what, when I came back I found I had two corrupted hard drives. Legal documents, projects, artwork, photos. I am glad I was savvy enough to get back some of it, but I lost a lot of stuff.

More recently, I resolved to backup my music on the Google play. After two weeks of straight bandwidth usage and stalled up internet, I finally uploaded most of my music. Talk about a complete pain. I have a feeling that getting it back would be the same kind of hassle.
Title: Re: What's your favorite comic book and what's the last one you've read?
Post by: kahlid74 on April 17, 2012, 02:13:55 pm
Good thought's Vigo.  My experiences with DRM music is that in all cases the provider allows you to make a "CD" with the music.  Since the CD has no DRM protection on it one can simply rip the CD back down to possess DRM free music.  Additionally all providers that I know of utilize cloud based systems where your account is pegged with what is yours and you can re-download it as many times as you want.  If a provider only allows for a single download that wouldn't be a smart buy IMO.  I've purchased music from Amazon/Sony/Walmart/iTunes and all of them let me download it as many times as I want and make CD's off of it.  So I can always get it back from those sources.

I'm going to challenge you for a moment in saying that backing up is a risk.  In your case I do not believe that the act of backing up is to blame.  Being in the position I am I've been privy to a lot of interesting situations surrounding backups and the act of backing up is never what's in question.  What is in question is always the laziness, shortcuts taken or hardware failure (known and accepted by management) on a backup system that causes it to fail during recovery or to possess corrupted data.  Your case proves that anything can happen but the digital items you possessed would IMO dictate or establish their own rules system to be backed up (legal documents being high value would be not only backed up locally but also in a remote system like Dropbox or Mozy.  Equally they would be encrypted) so as to the event you encountered would be mitigated from the loss of all of your data.

It's like a screw driver in your garage.  You close your garage door so your neighbor doesn't come over and take it.  You have a spare one in your basement so you can grab it if your wife or child takes the one from your garage and you have one in your car for worst case scenarios.  That is with the idea that the screw driver is important enough to you where you need to have it at any time.
Title: Re: What's your favorite comic book and what's the last one you've read?
Post by: Donkbaca on April 17, 2012, 02:20:33 pm
A bunch of old CDs came with DRM too, remember that big class action with Sony?  Plus scrubbing music of DRM is just as easy as ripping it to your drive.  Plus with all the cloud stuff, its easier to go all digital, because then its all saved at a central spot like Kahlid said.

FWIW, they ARE expirementing with the buy a hard copy get a digital free, or buy a digital get a discount on the hard copy, etc.  There will always be a market for tangible goods - people still buy vinyl records - but most people will forgo it in exchange for convenience.  Ebooks outsell printed books now, I don't see comics bucking that trend.
Title: Re: What's your favorite comic book and what's the last one you've read?
Post by: Louis Tully on April 18, 2012, 07:36:19 pm
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