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Title: Bolts on galaga control panel?
Post by: dany32412 on February 11, 2010, 12:01:47 am
hey guys im building a galaga cocktail machine and i relized that there are these bolts on the control panel that seem to have no perpose. I've reseived my overlays and the have the holes punched out for them and everything, yet no where can i find anything about the galaga cocktails having a plexiglass cover on the control panels. any ideas?!?! also if anybody knows what type of bolts they are (ex. carraige, rounded fillips, flat) that would be a big help.
thanks
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Title: Re: Bolts on galaga control panel?
Post by: smalltownguy on February 11, 2010, 07:33:42 am
Could be a modification made by the factory after getting complaints of curling edges.
Title: Re: Bolts on galaga control panel?
Post by: Kevin Mullins on February 11, 2010, 01:03:18 pm
I would assume it's the 8-32 x 1/2" carriage bolts referred to here in the manual.
Title: Re: Bolts on galaga control panel?
Post by: RayB on February 11, 2010, 03:16:01 pm
THe PacMan I restored also had those holes. The overlay is not just a sticker on those... its THICK. So to prevent people from picking at and peeling up the corners, there's small bolts or screws as an extra measure. I ended up having to use tiny screw bolts. Couldn't find small enough carriage bolts (even the Nintendo style ones were too big)
Title: Re: Bolts on galaga control panel?
Post by: smalltownguy on February 11, 2010, 03:34:33 pm
Aha...as I suspected. I've seen that on other cabs too. Of course I've also seen several control panels where the bolts are there, and the customers have still peeled the entire CP overlay off AROUND the bolt too. *sigh*

My Rolling Thunder panel's overlay was on like IRON. Back when I pulled it off, I wasn't 'smaaaart' as I is now, and didn't use a hair dryer. It came of in a million little flakes. Then I had to use acid to get the adhesive off. They must have used some SERIOUS sticky on that overlay.  :censored:

Title: Re: Bolts on galaga control panel?
Post by: dany32412 on February 11, 2010, 11:19:09 pm
okay thanks guys. so apparently they were used to secure the underlay, and im assuming that according to the manual they used #8-32 x 1/2" carraige bolts. but i think im gonna use some #8 fillips with a rounded top, idk we'll see what they have at the store.
Title: Re: Bolts on galaga control panel?
Post by: CheffoJeffo on February 12, 2010, 10:11:44 am
Mike's got 'em (http://www.mikesarcade.com/cgi-bin/store.pl?action=search&category=Game+Parts&subcategory=Midway+Parts)

Title: Re: Bolts on galaga control panel?
Post by: RayB on February 12, 2010, 07:51:11 pm
Mike's got 'em (http://www.mikesarcade.com/cgi-bin/store.pl?action=search&category=Game+Parts&subcategory=Midway+Parts)
Don't see em.
Title: Re: Bolts on galaga control panel?
Post by: CheffoJeffo on February 12, 2010, 08:09:28 pm
Mike's got 'em (http://www.mikesarcade.com/cgi-bin/store.pl?action=search&category=Game+Parts&subcategory=Midway+Parts)
Don't see em.

Carriage Bolts #8-32 x 1/2" w/ KEP nuts

I presume they're the same as on my upright PacMan.
Title: Re: Bolts on galaga control panel?
Post by: dany32412 on February 13, 2010, 12:39:13 am
the problem is is that i cant find any good pictures of galaga cocktail panel. it seems like theres only a few pics out there..... i hate this  :-\. if anybody has a galaga machine could you please settle this or better yet post a pic.
thanks
Title: Re: Bolts on galaga control panel?
Post by: Kevin Mullins on February 13, 2010, 03:52:15 pm
My "Galaxian" has very small Phillips head sheet metal screws in those four spots.
(but it's listed as such in the Galaxian manual)

Quick way to verify what your Galaga would take is to look at the holes in the metal panel.... are they really small round holes or are they square holes ?

Hard to tell in this pic, but the holes on arcadeshops's NEW panels seem to have large enough holes for carriage bolts. (can't tell if they are squared though)

Personally, I'd rather have the carriage bolts in there either way.
Title: Re: Bolts on galaga control panel?
Post by: RayB on February 13, 2010, 04:16:58 pm
Mike's got 'em (http://www.mikesarcade.com/cgi-bin/store.pl?action=search&category=Game+Parts&subcategory=Midway+Parts)
Don't see em.

Carriage Bolts #8-32 x 1/2" w/ KEP nuts

I presume they're the same as on my upright PacMan.
Nope. See Kevin's post. Little screws in the corners to hold the overlay. The holes are even threaded I think (my Pac cocktail's seemed to be).
Title: Re: Bolts on galaga control panel?
Post by: CheffoJeffo on February 13, 2010, 05:56:50 pm
Mike's got 'em (http://www.mikesarcade.com/cgi-bin/store.pl?action=search&category=Game+Parts&subcategory=Midway+Parts)
Don't see em.

Carriage Bolts #8-32 x 1/2" w/ KEP nuts

I presume they're the same as on my upright PacMan.
Nope. See Kevin's post. Little screws in the corners to hold the overlay. The holes are even threaded I think (my Pac cocktail's seemed to be).

Interesting, the little screws in the corners to hold the overlay on the upright are #8-32 1" carriage bolts (and the holes in the CP are square).
Title: Re: Bolts on galaga control panel?
Post by: dany32412 on February 13, 2010, 11:08:43 pm
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Interesting, the little screws in the corners to hold the overlay on the upright are #8-32 1" carriage bolts (and the holes in the CP are square).
yeah i agree, cause on the overlay the "little" holes are circles and the joystick mounting holes were squares, for carraige bolts. which is why i doubt that they are carraige bolts.
Title: Re: Bolts on galaga control panel?
Post by: cnlmoore on February 14, 2010, 12:36:08 am
Carriage bolts have square necks.  They should be 8-32 x 1/2" and black.  I have about 1000 of them if you need some email me as I rarely check this site.  chris at tokens only dot com
Title: Re: Bolts on galaga control panel?
Post by: RayB on February 15, 2010, 02:27:02 pm
We're talking cocktail, not upright. The parts differ. We're gonna confuse the guy.


When in doubt, hit the manual's parts list!

Pac Man cocktail uses four #8-32 carriage bolts to hold the joystick, and four #6 x 1/4 "phil. trs. hd. scr."

I assume that means Phillips ?? Head Screw. (What does "TRS." mean?)

Galaga cocktail: Same thing, but the manual says 14 screws required. I think that's a typo and meant to say 4.
Title: Re: Bolts on galaga control panel?
Post by: RayB on February 15, 2010, 02:35:29 pm
Hey, guess what, Mike's Arcade DOES carry them, but for some reason they do not show up under "Midway Parts" on their site!

http://www.mikesarcade.com/cgi-bin/store.pl?sku=TH6X38SS (http://www.mikesarcade.com/cgi-bin/store.pl?sku=TH6X38SS)
Title: Re: Bolts on galaga control panel?
Post by: Kevin Mullins on February 15, 2010, 10:42:19 pm
So "TRS" = Truss

Galaga cocktail: Same thing, but the manual says 14 screws required. I think that's a typo and meant to say 4.

But if you count the three on each side to "mount" the metal panel underneath to the cabinet itself then it would work out to 14. (same style screw)
3 mount screws + 4 overlay screws X 2 sides = 14 screws

And that would also mean the 8-32 x 1/2" carriage bolts listed in the manual are strictly for the joystick then ? (8 total, 4 on each side)
Title: Re: Bolts on galaga control panel?
Post by: SavannahLion on February 16, 2010, 01:34:10 am
Pac Man cocktail uses four #8-32 carriage bolts to hold the joystick, and four #6 x 1/4 "phil. trs. hd. scr."

I assume that means Phillips ?? Head Screw. (What does "TRS." mean?)

Phillips Truss Head Screw perhaps? Checked the Machinary's Handbook and that's the only one that seems to fit.