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Also, check out arcade auctions in your area.  You might get a good deal on an original non-working cab.

Why is having the joystick aligned the same as your buttons fail? You are also standing off to the side as a third or fourth player.

What PL1 said.  It's initially more intuitive to push the joystick in the direction you want the character on the screen to go.  That means the joysticks is aligned with the character on the screen, not the player.  People who use the machine regularly will adjust, but random people who are new to the machine will not do as well when playing as player 3 or 4 and as a result lose interest in the game faster.

It's totally not intuitive when building the machine to align the joysticks that way.  When the games originally came out, making money was paramount.  If people fed more quarters into them with the joysticks angled, they would have angled them.

1. try baseline MAME - if no worky....

2. use a rom naming utility to check roms.


01. recommend posting in GM sub-fo .

Somewhat storming this party: I essentially gave up on track ball games years ago for this reason. Two Happs have behaved like this, and the Betsons I bought only a little better. The first Happ I replaced Everything but the encoders (with GGG parts, including bearings): spun better, not great and certainly not killer; still choked and tracked in the same direction. The issue lies with a lack of precision in the housing design. Ten or so years ago I happened upon found a pretty great though worn and dirty Betson (I think) in a Golden Tee, so some don't suck.....but.....

This seems a front end thing....if you use one here....

So just a compare of the old vs new here. And if you do not know. The 4-Play was this adapter that lunched in 2015, it was the first all in one USB adapter for just about ever controller out there. As with everything like this there were pros and cons. Here were a few.

Cons
1) Price was high, the KS alone was insane, no one saw it funding...
2) Lag was a bit of an issue for same being its hit up to 16ms for some controllers.
3) New company jitters.
4) Asthmatics and name. Yup a lot of folk did not like the look, and didn't like the "4-play" aspect.
5) Limited cables at first
6) Later on, the lack of xinput

Pros
1) It actually worked with so damn many controllers.
2) If you planned to get that many adapters, then it was a huge savings.
3) HID, and worked with everything.
4) Supports everything, from rumble to pressure buttons, to mansards.
5) Active community, if you know, you know.
6) Cross platform, Just about ever OS could use it.

Old:


NEW:




Oh and all the cables still work, and the device uses the same USB as its all the same protocol. Just a faster USB. 


There are a few other things worth a mention.

1) there is  arcade inputs, Supergun, neogoe, D.I.Y  options.
2) There is a Bridge add-on to make the input work on consoles atar-swtich2
3) Also a Blender and AIR add-on options that do other custom configs.

Im hoping the original poster can help, followed the instructions and got a rotation to vertical when choosing a vertical game when exiting the game monitor did not rotate back o horizontal.  Servo was still working under the pololu controller and I could rotate it back to horizontal. I restarted hyperspin and selected the same vertical game with no rotation this time. Any help would be appreciated im so damn close to completing the project!

I personally use Retroshoter Reaper RS3s on my cabinet, and they're pretty dang good.

Damnit, I think you just spent $300 of my money!

Guess it's time to dust of this old topic again . . .   

Why is having the joystick aligned the same as your buttons fail? You are also standing off to the side as a third or fourth player.

The fail is not that the stick is aligned with the buttons.

The fail is that the stick is not aligned with the monitor.

Almost every 4 player game had the sticks aligned like the ones in green.
- There were very few games with sticks angled like the one in red, and those titles were not well received.
Related thread: https://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,87347.msg1301886.html#msg1301886

There were some 2-player titles that angled the sticks, specifically Virtua Fighter and Virtua Fighter 2.   
- Offered as proof of that assertion, a picture from the VF2 manual.


You can learn to adjust to angled sticks, but that involves compensating for the angle of the stick and your body position relative to the stick.
- Big guys need more elbow room, changing where the players stand, which changes their angle relative to the stick.

If the sticks are not angled, up on the stick is always perpindicular to the line described by the face of the monitor.
- Up on the stick is always up on the monitor regardless of where you stand.  The direction you push the stick matches the action on the monitor.  This makes it easier to hit the desired direction.

Some companies did things like un-angled sticks that stood the test of time and some did things that did not.


Scott

Ah, that's a good point !

I actually ported those Model2 outputs to be used with MAME when they first released 0.278 with Model2 game support.

But as it was not DemulShooter related, I shared it to some people for testing but never really advertised for it....

Just download and use the zip package I'm joining in below (there's a Readme inside explaining everything)
These are simple LUA scripts to be used with MAME to create outputs, DemulSHooter is not needed for that.

Thanks for that.

I thought that using LUA might be a possibility, as you have the cheat system for finding memory location in MAME already with many cheats already pinpointing needed memory locations.
I was looking at the MAME documentation last night but wasn't sure about outputting the messages and I haven't used LUA yet.

Working great, thanks. Just need to dial in my recoil value. 

Also, check out arcade auctions in your area.  You might get a good deal on an original non-working cab.

Why is having the joystick aligned the same as your buttons fail? You are also standing off to the side as a third or fourth player.