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DJ_Izumi:
Not obsolete with classic games but new ones.  The Aksys fighting game BlazBlue Continuum Shift has been leaked and is now running on PCs.  Not the 360 port, not the PS3 port, not a home PC port.  The arcade version has been decrypted and via a bootloader it that allows you to remap things like service buttons and coin in functions through the keyboard.  So long as your PC has sufficent hardware to match the Taito Type X2 platform ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taito_Type_X#Taito_Type_X.C2.B2 ) that this game runs on, you can run the complete arcade version at home. 

This is astounding.  An arcade game requireing no emulation other than a few inputs running on off the shelf PC hardware in Windows as if it were a PC game.  Service mode and the works operating just like they should.  No need to produce an a full hardware emualtor.  Considdering that the vast majority of arcade games are now built on custom propritary PC hardware with security/encryption features this could mean that modern games will come to your home brew arcade before MAME can accurately emulate the late 90's custom machines.

Now... Let's see someone do this for Sega Lindburgh. :3

Aabra:
I don't think that this will make MAME obsolete.... that's a bit much.  This emulator/hack only works on 1 system.  Mame works on a *lot*.  It is cool though - I was one of the lucky ones to download it during the window of only a couple of hours before we knew it was a leak.

Don't ask me for the link or for me to send it to you as I won't.  The people who made this requested that distribution stop and I'm respecting that.  The place I got it from took it down as well so I'm not sure where you can even get this anymore.  Regardless it's very cool and here's a quick video I made proving that it works.

DJ_Izumi:

--- Quote from: Aabra on January 23, 2010, 09:41:16 pm ---I don't think that this will make MAME obsolete.... that's a bit much.  This emulator/hack only works on 1 system.  Mame works on a *lot*.  It is cool though - I was one of the lucky ones to download it during the window of only a couple of hours before we knew it was a leak.
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But it does run on Windows which is the majority of systems.  And 5-10 years from now you could built something equal to a Taito Type X2 for almost nothing and maybe play other games that have been decrypted.

Honestly, for the effort of emulating these PC systems, it's likely going to be easily jsut to hack them into running natively in Windows.

SavannahLion:
I'm a little confused. Is this a new Taito emulator (as it were if I understand the Taito boards right) that currently only supports Blazblue or is this a hacked version of Blazblue (that was leaked non-the-less) made to run on Windows boxes?

DJ_Izumi:

--- Quote from: SavannahLion on January 24, 2010, 12:54:46 am ---I'm a little confused. Is this a new Taito emulator (as it were if I understand the Taito boards right) that currently only supports Blazblue or is this a hacked version of Blazblue (that was leaked non-the-less) made to run on Windows boxes?

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BlazBlue DOES run on Windows.  The Taito Type X2 is built on PC hardware with a few minor variations and the operating system is Windows XPe (Embedded).  With whatever protection was on it removed from the game data, it now runs with just a boot loader that's used to map things like controls and coin slots.  Otherwise, BlazBlue is being executed entirely natively in Windows.

So it's not really being emulated, other than a simple program intercepting PC inputs and converting them to exactly what BlazBlue expects from the Taito Type X2.

When arcade hardware started moving to contemporary PC hardware the only thing that seperated the arcade machine from being a PC was encryption features.  Remove that and you basically have a PC game.

However compatability is likely to be an issue.  While technicly DirectX is acting between the software and the graphics hardware, we've seen all the time in the PC world where some cards or combination of other hardware just doesnn't work right.  This is after the best efforts of PC developers to ensure compatability.  I imagine that Aksys never tested BlazBlue outside of the Type X2 hardware because they'd never be running it on a different platform other than the Type X2.  But a lot of people are successfully getting it to run on their PCs.

If this can be done on one Type X2 game it could be done to others if there's interest to put effort behind it.  The same could be true for other arcade games running on PC hardware.

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