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spystyle:
OK I called my brother to help define what an original Defender fan might be -

He claims to have spent in 1982, $4 per day, 2 hours a day, 5 days a week playing mostly Stargate.

Leaving the high score name "Southbound 97" on Stargate as it allowed for 20 characters. Or "Sue" on Defender as it allowed for only 3 characters. That was to make the others guys feel bad thinking some gal beat them :)

He could eventually play Stargate for over 1 hour on two quarters.  

He claims Pac-Man was all memory and Defender/Stargate was all reflex.

As for me? I was too young and played NES, this could explain my love for the 8-way sticks and multiple games :)

Have fun!
Craig

spystyle:

--- Quote from: CheffoJeffo on December 29, 2009, 10:57:23 am ---...
If you want to have a single cabinet to play them all, then built a cabinet that is appropriate for that purpose...

--- End quote ---

By the way Jeff, in your opinion what cabinet is best for a multitude of games?

I always thought of the Defender cabinet as a pretty agreeable design. Especially for swappable panels - because it's control panel is the size of the cabinet's inside diameter - you could store multiple panels in the back - especially if using an LCD monitor as it is so shallow.

Yes an array of control panels stored in the back, like a Neo Geo layout, a Defender layout, another one with a trackball, another with a spinner, another with a 4 way, another with a steering wheel ... Yes an arcade machine that is like a transformer!

Also with a subwoofer in place of the coin door :)

Oh now I want to build that :)

CheffoJeffo:

--- Quote from: spystyle on December 29, 2009, 04:05:16 pm ---
--- Quote from: CheffoJeffo on December 29, 2009, 10:57:23 am ---...
If you want to have a single cabinet to play them all, then built a cabinet that is appropriate for that purpose...

--- End quote ---

By the way Jeff, in your opinion what cabinet is best for a multitude of games?

--- End quote ---

If you are asking what manufactured cabinet I would recommend for a the largest multitude of games, then I tend to lean towards the big Midway uprights (and there are folks who would burn me for suggesting that), the Dynamo uprights (preferably with the big CPs as used on GT), the Capcom big blues (again, some people might burn me for suggesting that) or Dynamo showcases. Or something custom-built.

I may have been too harsh in my commentary in this thread ... I took the "I have a Defender to work on" a little too literally.

Defender is a pretty decent cab to put modular panels on (as opposed to, say, a Joust or Robotron with the wrap-arounds) and this one is gutted (hence, there is no crime in MAMEing this and I wouldn't condemn the OP for doing that). It is somewhat odd that I reacted so strongly because I don't even like Defender and have never been any good at it. I'm not even a Jarvis fanboy ... it's just something about the Williams cabs from that era that makes me hate to see them altered in any substantial form -- kinda like how I hate seeing Joust cocktails made into generic JAMMA cocktails even though they are perfect for simultaneous two-player horizontals. Defender is obviously less rare, so I guess it is my own personal arcade prejudice.

 :dunno

Having said that, there are alternatives beyond MAMEing that may be more rewarding, are aesthetically more pleasing and may lead to more preservation going forward.

On a related note, some cabinets don't lend themselves to generic MAMEing. I have no love for MsPac cabs and they are plentiful. However, I would never MAME one to play more than a handful of games simply because the cabinet does not lend itself to that purpose. It may seem odd, but I wouldn't hesitate to 60-in-1 (which is MAMEing) a MsPac since the cabinet does lend itself to play those games.

Ach ... to each his own and you and I definitely agree on the key point -- the owner should enjoy.

 :cheers:

spystyle:
It's cool Jeffo - I like hearing an intelligent counter viewpoint, it's thought provoking.

And I'm sure the OP likes to see what a wide array of choices he has.

He'll probably paint it yellow and convert it to a dedicated Pac-man just to spite us :)

Havok:
+1 for the Jrok board with Multi-Williams setup. Just make sure to find a couple of 4" Wico joysticks if you go that route.

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