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prOk:

--- Quote from: ChadTower on November 26, 2009, 12:41:09 pm ---
--- Quote from: CheffoJeffo on November 26, 2009, 12:00:16 pm ---Because the guys doing the repros aren't putting food on the table with their arcade work, they are usually taking food away from the table with it.

RealLife trumps arcade nerds.

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The people paying for the product did the same thing.  It's a circular debate. 

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Not circular in the slightest.  Those that paid have been offered and received their money back on request meaning that NOBODY is financially on the hook besides David for what he's already invested in time, equipment and materials unless they actively volunteer to be.  Huge difference, but it seems perhaps this is more about piling on than anything else at this point :(

There are many people that do repro parts and stuff that deal with their offerings as a small business but that does not diminish the fact that they formed those businesses just to supply things and do creative stuff in their off hours.  Most people doing this stuff don't actually profit much at all, certainly not enough to justify the beatings they take if they can't meet a timeline on something.  In all honesty, this stuff on occasion has to take a backseat because the real world forces you to do so and the vast majority of folks are completely understanding and can put things in proper perspective while others see it as an opportunity to seek and destroy.  Everyone's different I guess.

Loafmeister:
Maybe there's something to be said to "there's no such thing as bad publicity" because if it came with a USB interface to connect to a PC based mame cab, I think I'd order one of the yokes now, and before all this drama, I didn't really have a desire before! :)

I think a lot of the headaches Dave is getting would be eliminated by just adding the following to the pre-order page of his website so it's clear that the deadlines are best effort and refunds are available.

"Due to the realities of R&D combined with the effort/intent to provide you with a quality product, all proposed deadlines are "best effort". Please see (insert web address of blog) for updates on the products progress and expected release date.  Deadlines are taken very seriously, great effort is put forth to meeting them. However, if they are not met, please feel free to request a refund on your pre-order, it will be granted without hesitation."

As far as pro/con comments, I don't think anyone is wrong, there's justification for both POVs.

FrizzleFried:

--- Quote ---Founded in 2005, RAM Controls produces quality reproduction controls for classic arcade games.  Our staff is made up of several experts in the arcade manufacturing industry, with extensive experience in electronics & mechanical R&D, manufacturing, repair and part sourcing. Our key designers and production personnel have over 80 years of combined experience in the arcade business. RAM Controls strives for the utmost quality, and our reproduction controls and parts are made to strict quality standards, often much higher than those installed in the original games.
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Right on the front page.  Sure sounds like a business to me... being he has several experts in the arcade manufacturing industry on his payroll including "production personnel" and "key designers".  Do you have multiple employees Prok?  I'd venture to guess that most secondary "hobby" related business don't... usually just the one guy doing his best to get stuff done.  The above quote sure makes it sound like it's a professional 1st tier business,  no?

It looks like a duck... it walks like a duck... hell,  it even quacks like a duck... but I'm supposed to believe it's a cow?

...just sayin'.




CheffoJeffo:
And here I thought that you didn't care ...

If it's a cow, then MAME it. Problem solved.

FrizzleFried:

--- Quote from: CheffoJeffo on November 26, 2009, 03:48:46 pm ---And here I thought that you didn't care ...

If it's a cow, then MAME it. Problem solved.

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Well,  no one listens to me anyway.  And I don't.  But a MAMEd cow might be an interesting thing.  Use the udders as joysticks?

:D

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