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CheffoJeffo:

--- Quote from: Beretta on August 12, 2009, 07:02:15 pm ---i have a hard time beleving PlayStation was to be the ill fated snes cd.

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Tell me that you are kidding ...  :dizzy:

Namco:

--- Quote from: CheffoJeffo on August 12, 2009, 07:39:04 pm ---
--- Quote from: Beretta on August 12, 2009, 07:02:15 pm ---i have a hard time beleving PlayStation was to be the ill fated snes cd.

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Tell me that you are kidding ...  :dizzy:

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I remember reading that in a Quartermann article in EGM decades ago. Plus, it's in wikipedia so it's TRUE!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playstation#History

CheffoJeffo:

--- Quote from: Beretta on August 12, 2009, 07:02:15 pm ---dreamcast was never nearly as popular as playstation, hence why sega bailed out of the console business, their last hope failed, dreamcast had very little if any to do with killing to arcades far to late.

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I agree with this, but the implication that the PS killed the arcade is, to my mind, an idea born from somebody who didn't actually go to arcades before the real crash (e.g. 1979-1982).

You can argue about stuff that happened in the late 80s or 90s all you want. The Arcade crash happened in 1983.

There was a resurgence after SF2, but it doesn't compare to the widespread cultural permeation that ocurred prior to 1983. If anything, SF2 and the subsequent eleventy12 brazillion fighting games were nails in the coffin -- they appealed to a specific group of players and shut out most others.

G4 did a decent set of shows on this stuff and you can see the people involved with the industry at the time tell you what happened, instead of relying on Wikipedia and some random dude on the innertubes.

My $.02

EDIT: LOL at Namco and I both referring to wikipedia ...  :cheers:

EDIT2: I just fired up Icons 208 and apparently I have appropriated much of what the folks in there said (including, specifically, "collapsed under its own weight", which was said in that episode by Tim Skelly).

MaximRecoil:

--- Quote from: Beretta on August 12, 2009, 07:02:15 pm ---why?, this seems like the perfect thread for them.
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What made you think that? In any event, you thought wrong.


--- Quote ---interesting thought if they was good enough for home console then brought ot the arcade that might say something.
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Yes, it might say something. In fact, it might just say something completely irrelevant to this discussion.


--- Quote ---your respones try to make a point that neo geo was as good as the arcade their for somehow im wrong about playstation.. seems to me it's exactly what you're saying, trying to use neo geo as a counter point.
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Neo Geo was high-end, purpose-built arcade hardware that happened to end up in a console. PlayStation was lowly console hardware that happened to end up in the arcade.


--- Quote ---when in fact VERY few people actually had neo geo's dare i say it had zero impact on the death of the arcade.
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What does that have to do with anything? I've been saying the whole time, indeed, from the first time I mentioned Neo Geo, that it was not mainstream. I only mentioned it to avoid someone mentioning it in response to if I'd simply said that the Dreamcast was the first console to equal or better the arcade hardware of the time; period.


--- Quote ---hmm like i said i remember playing tekken in the arcade before playstation was even released, either my memory is bad or your wrong,
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That's great. Are you Japanese? The PlayStation was released there 9 months before it was released here.


--- Quote ---i have a hard time beleving PlayStation was to be the ill fated snes cd.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation#History


--- Quote ---well then the playstation version was "as good" then thank you for agreeing, rather you like tekken does'nt really matter now does it?, rather or not there could have been a better "tekken" is pretty moot cause there is'nt.
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Yes it was "as good", in the same way that Excitebike (NES) was "as good" as Vs. Excitebike. Here are a couple of words for you: console hardware.


--- Quote ---btw graphic wise it was better then virtua fighter which although what 6months earlier released? was pretty bad graphics wise.
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They both suck in terms of graphics. Virtua Fighter ran on Sega Model 1 hardware, which was from 1992 (2 years older than the PlayStation hardware; Virtua Fighter 2 was released the same year as Tekken). It was an experiment that they didn't originally plan to release, and should have stayed an experiment IMO. Trying to render something as visually complex as a 3D fighting game featuring human avatars with such weak 3D hardware as the PlayStation or Sega Model 1 is a recipe for nothing but bad; visually speaking. It is like trying to render a game like Double Dragon on the Atari 2600 hardware... oh wait, they tried that... it didn't rock.

Namco:
Okay, I read this first half of the first page of this thread and I get what MaximumRecoil is saying. He's saying 1995 era PS hardware < Typical arcade hardware. Beretta said arcades died when people started playing Playstation rather than play arcade games.

I agree with them both. PS hardware wasn't quite as powerful as typical new arcade hardware at the time AND the PS contributed to the death of arcades in that people stayed home to play great games like Tekken 2. I know I did. The killer apps that made me run to the store to buy a Playstation were Tekken, Ridge Racer, Tekken 2, and NBA Jam. Although the PS was technically inferior to the arcade experience, it was good enough.

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