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shardian:

--- Quote from: SavannahLion on July 19, 2009, 01:45:50 pm ---
9 according to the packaging I have. But yes, I agree with shardian, they do fail at a higher than normal rate. I think a large part of it is that in a typical incandescent application, they are placed into a position that CFL manufactures specifically tell you not to put CFLs in. Namely in a base up, bulb down position. Out of every light fixture in my house, a mere five do not have the bulb "upside down." Of those five, two are excluded by design due to their sealed glass enclosures (another thing CFL manufacturers recommend against), that leaves three fixtures out of an entire house that fall within the recommended usage guidelines of your typical CFL.

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Exactly - CFL's have an extremely limited usefulness. The only CFL I am truly happy with is the special one in my lamp post.

They fail most often in ceiling fans.

protokatie:

--- Quote from: shardian on July 20, 2009, 10:26:59 am ---
They fail most often in ceiling fans.

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I wonder if that is due to the electric noise caused by the fan motor. What next? A new law mandating two separate circuits for a ceiling fan? (One for lights and one for the fan motor).

I really do not see the logic in a law BANNING incandescents. Most people are buying cfls anyway, simply because they use less power, and often last much longer (except in certain circumstances). This is an obvious case of the government "meaning well" and "trying to do the 'right' thing".

Besides, if they make it tough for me to get light bulbs for my lava light, I will go columbine!

Ginsu Victim:
I've considered stock-piling incandescents. I don't like the light CFLs put out (I also disagree with the so-called environmental aspect).

mvsfan:

--- Quote from: EwJ on July 17, 2009, 09:47:13 pm ---
--- Quote from: Ginsu Victim on July 17, 2009, 08:55:51 pm ---
--- Quote from: Dr Zero on July 17, 2009, 08:23:58 pm ---The big push is to go green and such there is not many regular bulbs around but I have some questions.

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Buy 'em up now, because come 2012, you can't buy the incandescent bulbs in the US anymore. Stupid "go green" ---smurf-poop---....

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good deal, brother. ALL flourescents have Mercury. Its one of the key ingredients that makes them "flouress".

although almost all flourescents being sold today are "low Mercury" and one way you can tell is because the ends are Green anodized aluminum,

They only contain about 50% less mercury. any manufacturer that claims otherwise is a liar.

the funny thing is, that the guidelines still allow you to throw green ended bulbs in the trash.

Kinda sad to say but ive worked for many electrical companies over the year. one of them had a very large percentage of their business in changing out bulbs in commercial buildings.

All of the silver ended ones they had to pay a recycling company about 60 bucks a case to get rid of,

and all of the green ended ones went in the trash.

Go green ---my bottom---.  CFL have mercury, no?

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mvsfan:
anyway my point was the greenies are being sold a lie because low mercury dont mean no mercury. Its only 50% less.

the result that ive seen anyways, and yes i will admit that this stuff is toxic, it does get into fish that we eat, etc etc.

the only result that has come of "green" bulbs is that just about all of the companies out there are really looking forward to the day when all of the silver ends have been changed out.

they are looking forward to the next time they need to relamp a building again and it already has green bulbs, so they dont have to pay mr. recycler to cart them off.

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